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Big drop in new cases today in Arizona... 1,800 today versus 2,400 yesterday.

Florida down a bit, at least not higher than yesterday.


Still putting my money on this being a memorial day weekend COVID hangover.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Nope. It will keep spiking. I'm not trolling you but I know that AZ was open and gatherings were on going like there was no pandemic. I have a lot of friends in AZ and their FB page was all about fun and games---no social distancing, no masks. Life went on.

In fact, when I was worried about it in late April, she joked about me moving there instead because they don't have Covid there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78576165


^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^

a friend of mine owns a sports bar in Phoenix
it's party party party EVEN WITHOUT SPORTS
the arrogance of the nothingburgers is quite impressive
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WHO is doing live briefings again??

Yup, definitely February in these parts it seems
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Wonder why???
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Dexamethasone Saves lives! It reduces ventilator deaths by a third, and reduces supplementary oxygen deaths by a fifth! However, no help if taken before hospital... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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This appears to be a summary of the actual study... [link to www.recoverytrial.net (secure)]
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The UK Government’s Chief Scientific Adviser, Sir Patrick Vallance, said: ‘This is tremendous news today from the Recovery trial showing that dexamethasone is the first drug to reduce mortality from COVID-19. It is particularly exciting as this is an inexpensive widely available medicine.

‘This is a ground-breaking development in our fight against the disease, and the speed at which researchers have progressed finding an effective treatment is truly remarkable. It shows the importance of doing high quality clinical trials and basing decisions on the results of those trials.’
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73199712

Dexamethasone also induces production of surfactant in alveoli, which reduces surface tension and helps to keep alveoli open. We’ve been using it for years to prevent RDS in premature newborns (by giving it to their mothers prior to delivery). All supported by RCTs. Obviously, patients with COVID-19 cytokine storm would have surfactant deficiency and this may be another reason why it is effective.
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A total of 2104 patients were randomised to receive dexamethasone 6 mg once per day (either by mouth or by intravenous injection) for ten days and were compared with 4321 patients randomised to usual care alone. Among the patients who received usual care alone, 28-day mortality was highest in those who required ventilation (41%), intermediate in those patients who required oxygen only (25%), and lowest among those who did not require any respiratory intervention (13%).

Dexamethasone reduced deaths by one-third in ventilated patients (rate ratio 0.65 [95% confidence interval 0.48 to 0.88]; p=0.0003) and by one fifth in other patients receiving oxygen only (0.80 [0.67 to 0.96]; p=0.0021). There was no benefit among those patients who did not require respiratory support (1.22 [0.86 to 1.75]; p=0.14).
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Yes, everyone needs to get this disease to develop immunity in the general population.
This is a normal reaction! A good reaction!

As people, especially young people, develop immunity weapons (not necessarily antibodies) to this bioweapon, close Human contact will spread the good just like the bad microorganisms.
Once again, let's look at the facts!

This exosome bioweapon is extremely tiny, and has no means to propel itself... no flagella or cilia... it is much too small!

By attaching itself to another type of 'critter', it rides around within the microbiosphere.

Within the jungle that lives on every square inch of everything, there are predator organisms which devour and consume others... like a sea of ocean-going creatures would do... big fish eats little fish.

If my immune system is very strong due to my vibrant lifestyle of health, I will develop these defenses before others, and when I hug and kiss you, or shake your hand, you might get a few on my good predator critters, which will multiply in and on the field of battle to fight for you just like me.

This is the basis of 'herd immunity', and why other countries adopted this approach!
You are not going to get this effect with masks, social distancing and hand sanitizer... why are you helping the bad guys win?

People catching this cv-19 bioweapon is actually good, as long as they treat a bad case of it early with one of the many anti-parasitics, and stay away from the intubing MDs that are killing everyone with glee, just like they always do.

#3 cause of death, people... there is a reason they got that honor.

Medical doctors have been chasing the wrong car... they have no clue what this bioweapon is or how to treat it (as usual, again), and would be happy to take the gvt.'s 39k to intubate you and sign your death warrant.

Before any of this ever happened, your chances of death after intuabtion were around 85%!!

That is what is killing people... the 'healthcare' (for profit) industry!!

Didn't you all get a clue when the demonrat governors started to ban anti-parasitic therapies?
Didn't you wonder why all the masks and social distance stuff started to get pushed so hard by the same people who told us Hilldog would win by a landslide in '16?

Good Lord.. and the fake media????????????/
You people had to see this coming like a freight train, yet you fall for it every time like Lucy and Linus kicking the football!
Lucy will pull it away and cause you to fall and miss everytime!!!
 Quoting: Tree of Life


Good points!
Interesting to see your signature has a quote from Edgar Cayce...have you ever been to Va Beach and the Association for Research and Enlightenment? He was right on a lot, and wrong on others...I don’t think he called this pandemic, too far in the future and he died in ‘45...
There is a River...excellent biography on him...

On a more realistic note, anybody see anything on whether your life insurance pays if you die of Covid? Just wondering if I become a FL statistic, would my insurance pay?
Life finds a way.
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This is insane. Texas' highest day ever and still people say it's a nothingburger.

The WHO propaganda and all the idiocy about smelling farts causing Covid just set us up for a bunch of nightmares.

Darth, so sorry that happened. And you're correct, nothing you can do but pray.

Our kids are split on it. 3 think it's something but not bad for them really, and one thinks it's bs.

My husband and I have gotten into it over continuing to wear a mask in stores and people's homes. He desperately wants it to be nothing. It doesn't help that people who are antimask have no compunction about telling you that you're an idiot for believing their bs on this.

They've divide us in yet another fashion.

Oh well. This too shall pass.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


I want it to be over too.iwish

I am sooooo sick of the mask.scream

I should be toasting my buns in The Med right now. redface

Get ahead of the next TP run. You know it's gonna happen. tp


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Any reason why India had a massive spike in deaths yesterday or will this be the beginning of their upwards peek ??
 Quoting: antivirus201


We should take a look.

tounge
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[link to www.covid19india.org (secure)]

Lots to update still
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Haven't checked in for a while.. I had to break quarantine. gaah

Cracked molar, getting it pulled this morning. Chose implant replacement, so cadaver bone implant too.. blah.

My first visit last week was on a day they were closed, so that was good. I was supposed to be first patient today, but it turns out I'm second.

Wish me luck.. Last time I had teeth pulled, wisdom teeth, I had major complications and spent 6 weeks in the hospital. At least this time I know I don't have strep throat. lol..
 Quoting: Tangy


Best of luck.

Hope that cadaver didn't croak from COVID. blink
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I really don't understand China. Why do they quarantine whole cities and swathes of cities for 40 positives? Even for an authoritarian county, their responses to this seem over the top.

The original Wuhan lockdown disturbed me. After living through our short Texas "lockdown," my thinking is this is bad, but not apocalyptic. China is treating this as apocalyptic.

I still feel like they know something we don't. What are they hiding?
 Quoting: PrezofTX


You still lost?

Don’t worry.... you still won’t believe it’s bad even when you can’t find food.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


What are you smoking? I've been following this thread since January. I've been "quarantined" in my house since mid-feb. You just showed up.
 Quoting: PrezofTX


She's been on this thread from the start.

don't be turdly.
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More Than 1/3rd Of Workers At Orlando International Test Positive For COVID-19:

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Looks like BBC is confused too.

Another COVID Cover-Up In China? BBC Reporter Says Numbers Don't Add Up In New Outbreak

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We gotta start thinking outside the box here...

Sir Isaac Newton considered curing the plague with toad vomit lozenges, a manuscript reveals

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Yes, everyone needs to get this disease to develop immunity in the general population.
This is a normal reaction! A good reaction!

As people, especially young people, develop immunity weapons (not necessarily antibodies) to this bioweapon, close Human contact will spread the good just like the bad microorganisms.
Once again, let's look at the facts!

This exosome bioweapon is extremely tiny, and has no means to propel itself... no flagella or cilia... it is much too small!

By attaching itself to another type of 'critter', it rides around within the microbiosphere.

Within the jungle that lives on every square inch of everything, there are predator organisms which devour and consume others... like a sea of ocean-going creatures would do... big fish eats little fish.

If my immune system is very strong due to my vibrant lifestyle of health, I will develop these defenses before others, and when I hug and kiss you, or shake your hand, you might get a few on my good predator critters, which will multiply in and on the field of battle to fight for you just like me.

This is the basis of 'herd immunity', and why other countries adopted this approach!
You are not going to get this effect with masks, social distancing and hand sanitizer... why are you helping the bad guys win?

People catching this cv-19 bioweapon is actually good, as long as they treat a bad case of it early with one of the many anti-parasitics, and stay away from the intubing MDs that are killing everyone with glee, just like they always do.

#3 cause of death, people... there is a reason they got that honor.

Medical doctors have been chasing the wrong car... they have no clue what this bioweapon is or how to treat it (as usual, again), and would be happy to take the gvt.'s 39k to intubate you and sign your death warrant.

Before any of this ever happened, your chances of death after intuabtion were around 85%!!

That is what is killing people... the 'healthcare' (for profit) industry!!

Didn't you all get a clue when the demonrat governors started to ban anti-parasitic therapies?
Didn't you wonder why all the masks and social distance stuff started to get pushed so hard by the same people who told us Hilldog would win by a landslide in '16?

Good Lord.. and the fake media????????????/
You people had to see this coming like a freight train, yet you fall for it every time like Lucy and Linus kicking the football!
Lucy will pull it away and cause you to fall and miss everytime!!!
 Quoting: Tree of Life


Good points!
Interesting to see your signature has a quote from Edgar Cayce...have you ever been to Va Beach and the Association for Research and Enlightenment? He was right on a lot, and wrong on others...I don’t think he called this pandemic, too far in the future and he died in ‘45...
There is a River...excellent biography on him...

On a more realistic note, anybody see anything on whether your life insurance pays if you die of Covid? Just wondering if I become a FL statistic, would my insurance pay?
 Quoting: Bastetcat


Cayce healed many, people. I have in my library 'There is a River', and have read it many times. Thanks to my porta-library (laptop) I am blessed to be able to research the ARE materials from my own office recliner!

I have no idea regarding insurance questions, but the web will likely tell you if you are covered.

And, we really do create our own Heaven and Hell... don't you think?

But... in all sincerity... I would love to share my bugs with everyone, and help them get well!
Please let me hug and kiss the world, dear Lord, please!
"All you may know of heaven or hell is within your own self." - Edgar Cayce
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More Than 1/3rd Of Workers At Orlando International Test Positive For COVID-19:

[link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76443085


Orlando Sentinel on the airport
Still 2 most recent
[link to www.orlandosentinel.com (secure)]

Also over 2600 new cases yesterday, deaths over 3k
[link to www.orlandosentinel.com (secure)]

And there may be an outbreak due to bars reopening around
UCF...one opened and closed again already

[link to www.orlandosentinel.com (secure)]
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We gotta start thinking outside the box here...

Sir Isaac Newton considered curing the plague with toad vomit lozenges, a manuscript reveals

[link to www.cnn.com (secure)]
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Blurgh! That sounds like more disease.

I prefer to just hunker down until his 2060 date.

What about the Voynich manuscrip? I heard it had been translated.
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Funny how this thread is being kept alive by the same posters, over and over...

Strange thing is there’s nothing of value to be gained by reading anything contained herein...

Why would you promote such absolute bullshit? Ahhh, never mind...

lolsign
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Yes, everyone needs to get this disease to develop immunity in the general population.
This is a normal reaction! A good reaction!

As people, especially young people, develop immunity weapons (not necessarily antibodies) to this bioweapon, close Human contact will spread the good just like the bad microorganisms.
Once again, let's look at the facts!

This exosome bioweapon is extremely tiny, and has no means to propel itself... no flagella or cilia... it is much too small!

By attaching itself to another type of 'critter', it rides around within the microbiosphere.

Within the jungle that lives on every square inch of everything, there are predator organisms which devour and consume others... like a sea of ocean-going creatures would do... big fish eats little fish.

If my immune system is very strong due to my vibrant lifestyle of health, I will develop these defenses before others, and when I hug and kiss you, or shake your hand, you might get a few on my good predator critters, which will multiply in and on the field of battle to fight for you just like me.

This is the basis of 'herd immunity', and why other countries adopted this approach!
You are not going to get this effect with masks, social distancing and hand sanitizer... why are you helping the bad guys win?

People catching this cv-19 bioweapon is actually good, as long as they treat a bad case of it early with one of the many anti-parasitics, and stay away from the intubing MDs that are killing everyone with glee, just like they always do.

#3 cause of death, people... there is a reason they got that honor.

Medical doctors have been chasing the wrong car... they have no clue what this bioweapon is or how to treat it (as usual, again), and would be happy to take the gvt.'s 39k to intubate you and sign your death warrant.

Before any of this ever happened, your chances of death after intuabtion were around 85%!!

That is what is killing people... the 'healthcare' (for profit) industry!!

Didn't you all get a clue when the demonrat governors started to ban anti-parasitic therapies?
Didn't you wonder why all the masks and social distance stuff started to get pushed so hard by the same people who told us Hilldog would win by a landslide in '16?

Good Lord.. and the fake media????????????/
You people had to see this coming like a freight train, yet you fall for it every time like Lucy and Linus kicking the football!
Lucy will pull it away and cause you to fall and miss everytime!!!
 Quoting: Tree of Life


Good points!
Interesting to see your signature has a quote from Edgar Cayce...have you ever been to Va Beach and the Association for Research and Enlightenment? He was right on a lot, and wrong on others...I don’t think he called this pandemic, too far in the future and he died in ‘45...
There is a River...excellent biography on him...

On a more realistic note, anybody see anything on whether your life insurance pays if you die of Covid? Just wondering if I become a FL statistic, would my insurance pay?
 Quoting: Bastetcat


Cayce healed many, people. I have in my library 'There is a River', and have read it many times. Thanks to my porta-library (laptop) I am blessed to be able to research the ARE materials from my own office recliner!

I have no idea regarding insurance questions, but the web will likely tell you if you are covered.

And, we really do create our own Heaven and Hell... don't you think?

But... in all sincerity... I would love to share my bugs with everyone, and help them get well!
Please let me hug and kiss the world, dear Lord, please!
 Quoting: Tree of Life


I was referring to some of his predictions as far as things like California being destroyed in like 1968 or something...as far as healing people he was amazing...I visited the ARE many times growing up... and yes! We do create our environment in many ways...

Kind of afraid to ask my insurance company, lol, cause I have not been tested....why I was asking the collective group here.
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Should we expect anything less?
So much for China’s “Beijing will NOT be another Wuhan” - the market was gigantic with over 200,000 vusitingnit within the last two weeks. So now we’re looking at what..millions potentially?

Did Beijing market coronavirus cluster begin in May?

The coronavirus outbreak in a Beijing market may have started a month before the cluster became apparent, the chief of China’s disease control centre has said.

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 Quoting: Guythu


I fully expect it to have.

It takes 4-6 weeks for it to become an issue.
Uptill then its just silent infecting people.

VIRAL LOAD once again.
 Quoting: Covid19sars2.0


So I have been following this thread since the start. I was tracking it (the virus) before this thread was created and before it was in the news. (It was in the news (online and written) for one day before it was pulled back in December)

Needless to say, I know people have had it including myself. It sucked it lasted a bit but I pretty much had zero of the initial symptoms nor did the majority of people I know that got it. Though here is the thing when I got it had to be mid to late January or early February and I had no known exposure as well as had very limited activity where I could have been exposed.

My personal story and experiences aside I still think something is very off with what is going on. Understand I am not saying this is a nothing burger at all. I am just saying something is very wrong with this new China Beijing shit.

I have to wonder WTF is really going on. We all know China lied with their numbers. I just don't see China doing the whole shutdown thing again for those numbers. China is full of shit and they have been about the whole damn thing... and they always have a motive for doing shit.

So let's get some good GLP tinfoil hat stuff going... what if round 2 is the real round. Meaning round 1 was just to put fear and make the world react... and subsequently get tired of the restrictions. So when round 2 comes in (which will be a new virus or more potent/deadly virus) people will not take it seriously.

Note: We still have no idea what the long term side effects of the current virus are either... So maybe China knows and that could be the reason to go through such extreme measures.

Just food for thought. Something is fucked up and there is more to this story. I don't trust China at all; and they don't act without reason... Personally, though I still say fuck the CCP.

Sorry for the long post but what is going on bothers me. I almost questions if everything going on is somehow related.
 Quoting: JohnnyBravo123


Understand that the odds of this being some kind of grand conspiracy to deliberately release a virus and cause a pandemic with a specific agenda in mind are pretty low. Unlike a plane or missile, you cannot control a pathogen once it has been released, and there are just too many variables in play for any person or group of people to say, "Hey! You know what? We want to {insert random goal here). Let's release a deadly virus to make that happen!"

The more convoluted of a plan you have, the higher the odds of something going wrong or somebody spilling the beans.

My opinion has pretty much remain unchanged since January, that this was an accidental release of a deadly pathogen due to sloppy containment protocols at a level 4 lab in Wuhan.
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Funny how this thread is being kept alive by the same posters, over and over...

Strange thing is there’s nothing of value to be gained by reading anything contained herein...

Why would you promote such absolute bullshit? Ahhh, never mind...

lolsign
 Quoting: ChanHand


Wait? You are mad because we know how to communicate and love one another as we are!?!?

Nothing of value.... I enjoy when you fine folks say this. How do you enjoy life?

You don’t. Again... science is important. You have been assigned to Control Group.

Please proceed down the corridor to the door that reads

“Darwin Awards”
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Yes, everyone needs to get this disease to develop immunity in the general population.
This is a normal reaction! A good reaction!

As people, especially young people, develop immunity weapons (not necessarily antibodies) to this bioweapon, close Human contact will spread the good just like the bad microorganisms.
Once again, let's look at the facts!

This exosome bioweapon is extremely tiny, and has no means to propel itself... no flagella or cilia... it is much too small!

By attaching itself to another type of 'critter', it rides around within the microbiosphere.

Within the jungle that lives on every square inch of everything, there are predator organisms which devour and consume others... like a sea of ocean-going creatures would do... big fish eats little fish.

If my immune system is very strong due to my vibrant lifestyle of health, I will develop these defenses before others, and when I hug and kiss you, or shake your hand, you might get a few on my good predator critters, which will multiply in and on the field of battle to fight for you just like me.

This is the basis of 'herd immunity', and why other countries adopted this approach!
You are not going to get this effect with masks, social distancing and hand sanitizer... why are you helping the bad guys win?

People catching this cv-19 bioweapon is actually good, as long as they treat a bad case of it early with one of the many anti-parasitics, and stay away from the intubing MDs that are killing everyone with glee, just like they always do.

#3 cause of death, people... there is a reason they got that honor.

Medical doctors have been chasing the wrong car... they have no clue what this bioweapon is or how to treat it (as usual, again), and would be happy to take the gvt.'s 39k to intubate you and sign your death warrant.

Before any of this ever happened, your chances of death after intuabtion were around 85%!!

That is what is killing people... the 'healthcare' (for profit) industry!!

Didn't you all get a clue when the demonrat governors started to ban anti-parasitic therapies?
Didn't you wonder why all the masks and social distance stuff started to get pushed so hard by the same people who told us Hilldog would win by a landslide in '16?

Good Lord.. and the fake media????????????/
You people had to see this coming like a freight train, yet you fall for it every time like Lucy and Linus kicking the football!
Lucy will pull it away and cause you to fall and miss everytime!!!
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Good points!
Interesting to see your signature has a quote from Edgar Cayce...have you ever been to Va Beach and the Association for Research and Enlightenment? He was right on a lot, and wrong on others...I don’t think he called this pandemic, too far in the future and he died in ‘45...
There is a River...excellent biography on him...

On a more realistic note, anybody see anything on whether your life insurance pays if you die of Covid? Just wondering if I become a FL statistic, would my insurance pay?
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Cayce healed many, people. I have in my library 'There is a River', and have read it many times. Thanks to my porta-library (laptop) I am blessed to be able to research the ARE materials from my own office recliner!

I have no idea regarding insurance questions, but the web will likely tell you if you are covered.

And, we really do create our own Heaven and Hell... don't you think?

But... in all sincerity... I would love to share my bugs with everyone, and help them get well!
Please let me hug and kiss the world, dear Lord, please!
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I was referring to some of his predictions as far as things like California being destroyed in like 1968 or something...as far as healing people he was amazing...I visited the ARE many times growing up... and yes! We do create our environment in many ways...

Kind of afraid to ask my insurance company, lol, cause I have not been tested....why I was asking the collective group here.
Life finds a way.
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Good life insurance article....

And no new policies probably will.

If there is a pandemic clause, probably not.

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This appears to be a summary of the actual study... [link to www.recoverytrial.net (secure)]
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The UK Government’s Chief Scientific Adviser, Sir Patrick Vallance, said: ‘This is tremendous news today from the Recovery trial showing that dexamethasone is the first drug to reduce mortality from COVID-19. It is particularly exciting as this is an inexpensive widely available medicine.

‘This is a ground-breaking development in our fight against the disease, and the speed at which researchers have progressed finding an effective treatment is truly remarkable. It shows the importance of doing high quality clinical trials and basing decisions on the results of those trials.’
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Dexamethasone also induces production of surfactant in alveoli, which reduces surface tension and helps to keep alveoli open. We’ve been using it for years to prevent RDS in premature newborns (by giving it to their mothers prior to delivery). All supported by RCTs. Obviously, patients with COVID-19 cytokine storm would have surfactant deficiency and this may be another reason why it is effective.
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A total of 2104 patients were randomised to receive dexamethasone 6 mg once per day (either by mouth or by intravenous injection) for ten days and were compared with 4321 patients randomised to usual care alone. Among the patients who received usual care alone, 28-day mortality was highest in those who required ventilation (41%), intermediate in those patients who required oxygen only (25%), and lowest among those who did not require any respiratory intervention (13%).

Dexamethasone reduced deaths by one-third in ventilated patients (rate ratio 0.65 [95% confidence interval 0.48 to 0.88]; p=0.0003) and by one fifth in other patients receiving oxygen only (0.80 [0.67 to 0.96]; p=0.0021). There was no benefit among those patients who did not require respiratory support (1.22 [0.86 to 1.75]; p=0.14).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78501249

It is not the magic bullet....For patients on ventilators, it cut the risk of death from 40% to 28%.

For patients needing oxygen, it cut the risk of death from 25% to 20%. Not much at all really.
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Got my test results back today, NEGATIVE!!!

That's pretty impressive, the e-mail actually came through just after midnight so I got my results about 36 hours after the sample was taken.

So much for all this bullshit about America sucking at testing.

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Good for you, Wordsie! I hope the other fourteen turn up negative as well.
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Funny how this thread is being kept alive by the same posters, over and over...

Strange thing is there’s nothing of value to be gained by reading anything contained herein...

Why would you promote such absolute bullshit? Ahhh, never mind...

lolsign
 Quoting: ChanHand


Wait? You are mad because we know how to communicate and love one another as we are!?!?

Nothing of value.... I enjoy when you fine folks say this. How do you enjoy life?

You don’t. Again... science is important. You have been assigned to Control Group.

Please proceed down the corridor to the door that reads

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lolsign
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I am a woman....

So you fail on soooooooo many levels.

Too bad you only get to enjoy a latex bottle.
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More than 600 infections in meat factory

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After 657 new corona infections at Tönnies, the slaughter in Rheda-Wiedenbrück is stopped. A total of almost 1,000 test results are now available.

The slaughter was stopped at the meat processor Tönnies in Rheda-Wiedenbrück (Gütersloh district). The Gütersloh district ordered the closure after 657 employees tested positive for the coronavirus . A total of almost 1,000 test results are now available. A spokesman for the district of Gütersloh said in the evening.

Kreis expects further positive tests
In total, the district had taken 1,050 samples on Tuesday (June 16, 2020) with the support of the German Red Cross and the Malteser Hilfsdienst. Several thousand people are still being tested.

New corona hotspot in a meat shop
This turns a meat business into a hotspot for corona infections. The employees come from the field of cutting. The company announced that around 1,300 employees from the production area and their relatives have to be in quarantine. District Administrator Sven Georg Adenauer spoke of a total of 7,000 employees who have to be quarantined.

"Shutdown at Tönnies"
In addition to the closure of the slaughterhouse, further production at the Rheda-Wiedenbrück site will be shut down. "There will be a shutdown at Tönnies," said Adenauer. The district administrator spoke of a duration of seven to 14 days. A plant closure will have an impact on meat supply: "Around 20 percent of the products could be missing". Tönnies wants to try to compensate for this with other locations.

Sorry from the company
Possible reasons could be relaxation of travel and thus increasing weekend visits by factory workers. In addition, there are the temperatures at the workplace, which increase the spread, the company says. Tönnies did everything possible to keep the virus out of the company. "We can only apologize," said company spokesman Dr. Andre cities.

Daycare and school closings from Thursday
The district of Gütersloh will close all schools and kindergartens from Thursday (June 18, 2020) due to the infections. District Administrator Sven Georg Adenauer emphasized that he could understand disgruntled parents, but it was a good means of preventing the spread. "This is better than a lockdown for the Gütersloh district."

Merkel praises the Gütersloh district
Chancellor Merkel praised the actions of the district in the evening: "We are watching the infection process in the federal and state governments very carefully. And all attention is focused on it, it is possible to keep the infection process under control and to leave it regionally. Therefore I welcome It’s very much that, for example, if such a frequent infection occurs in the Gütersloh district that measures are taken immediately and schools are closed, for example. "

Live pigs driven off the farm
Several transporters with live pigs drove off the Tönnies site again during the day. A cattle dealer from Glandorf told WDR that the pigs are now being taken to a Tönnies slaughterhouse in Emsland and are still being killed today.
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Funny how this thread is being kept alive by the same posters, over and over...

Strange thing is there’s nothing of value to be gained by reading anything contained herein...

Why would you promote such absolute bullshit? Ahhh, never mind...

lolsign
 Quoting: ChanHand


Wait? You are mad because we know how to communicate and love one another as we are!?!?

Nothing of value.... I enjoy when you fine folks say this. How do you enjoy life?

You don’t. Again... science is important. You have been assigned to Control Group.

Please proceed down the corridor to the door that reads

“Darwin Awards”
 Quoting: CleverCreator


[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

lolsign
 Quoting: ChanHand


I am a woman....

So you fail on soooooooo many levels.

Too bad you only get to enjoy a latex bottle.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


A woman? Yeah! Okay...

Nice try.
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Also of note, the Texas official website is only reporting 2,622 new cases.

There is often a discrepancy between state total and individual county data which is what you see on Worldometers, and I wonder if that's because counties are reporting antibody tests in their totals.

The jump to 4,400+ cases in one day seems too much to be real, we really haven't seen such a spike anywhere that wasn't due to reporting irregularities.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Their test rate for today was over 33,600 ( one day ) ...only 18k test reports yesterday, 7;day avg about 28k. Pos rate showing as 8% over 7 days.
 Quoting: dodger007


I live near Houston and own a small manufacturing company there. My son runs it.

I mandated masks, 10 foot distancing, disinfecting restrooms after each use, etc. back on Feb. 1st because of what I learned on this thread.

Found out today that my son's wife, one of our VPs, and a couple of workers all got sick a week ago.

The VP is getting tested tomorrow. I want the others tested ASAP.

They did not take my warnings seriously enough. They have been going to parties, shopping, etc. and NOT wearing masks as a minimum.

I preached. I forwarded news articles. I mandated.

They did not believe.

I hope that this is a false alarm. They are my kids, my family.

What can I do? What else?

Was so busy prepping and working today that I did not have time to be sad.

Will just keep being supportive and pray.
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Darth, I really hope everyone is ok. Have been reading about your preps since I found this thread and it sounds to me like you did everything you could have done. Best wishes to you and yours mate.
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Wait? You are mad because we know how to communicate and love one another as we are!?!?

Nothing of value.... I enjoy when you fine folks say this. How do you enjoy life?

You don’t. Again... science is important. You have been assigned to Control Group.

Please proceed down the corridor to the door that reads

“Darwin Awards”
 Quoting: CleverCreator


[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

lolsign
 Quoting: ChanHand


I am a woman....

So you fail on soooooooo many levels.

Too bad you only get to enjoy a latex bottle.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


A woman? Yeah! Okay...

Nice try.
 Quoting: ChanHand


Good thing it’s a pain day... you are an excellent distraction.

Oh boy, you really showed me. Now I must prove myself.

Hahahaha. You dear tool are not up against a weak soul.

Please do proceed... I am channeling my inner Emma.
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Crap...

Cayce.... I used to dream about cayces house. Then I saw it on Unsolved Mysteries.

Then I wound up at ARE, Va Beach and knew I was going to end up living in Norfolk. Which would happen... 5 years later.

Have other Cayce stories, neck still hates me, today.
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The UK Government’s Chief Scientific Adviser, Sir Patrick Vallance, said: ‘This is tremendous news today from the Recovery trial showing that dexamethasone is the first drug to reduce mortality from COVID-19. It is particularly exciting as this is an inexpensive widely available medicine.

‘This is a ground-breaking development in our fight against the disease, and the speed at which researchers have progressed finding an effective treatment is truly remarkable. It shows the importance of doing high quality clinical trials and basing decisions on the results of those trials.’
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73199712

Dexamethasone also induces production of surfactant in alveoli, which reduces surface tension and helps to keep alveoli open. We’ve been using it for years to prevent RDS in premature newborns (by giving it to their mothers prior to delivery). All supported by RCTs. Obviously, patients with COVID-19 cytokine storm would have surfactant deficiency and this may be another reason why it is effective.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78501249

A total of 2104 patients were randomised to receive dexamethasone 6 mg once per day (either by mouth or by intravenous injection) for ten days and were compared with 4321 patients randomised to usual care alone. Among the patients who received usual care alone, 28-day mortality was highest in those who required ventilation (41%), intermediate in those patients who required oxygen only (25%), and lowest among those who did not require any respiratory intervention (13%).

Dexamethasone reduced deaths by one-third in ventilated patients (rate ratio 0.65 [95% confidence interval 0.48 to 0.88]; p=0.0003) and by one fifth in other patients receiving oxygen only (0.80 [0.67 to 0.96]; p=0.0021). There was no benefit among those patients who did not require respiratory support (1.22 [0.86 to 1.75]; p=0.14).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78501249

It is not the magic bullet....For patients on ventilators, it cut the risk of death from 40% to 28%.

For patients needing oxygen, it cut the risk of death from 25% to 20%. Not much at all really.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73199712

Also the results of a clinical trial called the Recovery trial — were issued in a press release, as opposed to an article in a peer-reviewed medical journal. As such, outside experts couldn't scrutinize the data behind the headlines. Very amateurish and suspicious.
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Also of note, the Texas official website is only reporting 2,622 new cases.

There is often a discrepancy between state total and individual county data which is what you see on Worldometers, and I wonder if that's because counties are reporting antibody tests in their totals.

The jump to 4,400+ cases in one day seems too much to be real, we really haven't seen such a spike anywhere that wasn't due to reporting irregularities.
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Their test rate for today was over 33,600 ( one day ) ...only 18k test reports yesterday, 7;day avg about 28k. Pos rate showing as 8% over 7 days.
 Quoting: dodger007


I live near Houston and own a small manufacturing company there. My son runs it.

I mandated masks, 10 foot distancing, disinfecting restrooms after each use, etc. back on Feb. 1st because of what I learned on this thread.

Found out today that my son's wife, one of our VPs, and a couple of workers all got sick a week ago.

The VP is getting tested tomorrow. I want the others tested ASAP.

They did not take my warnings seriously enough. They have been going to parties, shopping, etc. and NOT wearing masks as a minimum.

I preached. I forwarded news articles. I mandated.

They did not believe.

I hope that this is a false alarm. They are my kids, my family.

What can I do? What else?

Was so busy prepping and working today that I did not have time to be sad.

Will just keep being supportive and pray.
 Quoting: darth


Darth, I really hope everyone is ok. Have been reading about your preps since I found this thread and it sounds to me like you did everything you could have done. Best wishes to you and yours mate.
 Quoting: Professoroldbeans


Thanks to all of my friends and colleagues on this thread.

I keep thinking I should have done more.

The biggest problem was my son, the Pres of my company. He never took it seriously. The kind of guy who relies on MSM for news.

He normally has excellent common sense and is a great businessman.

However, his skepticism weakened the response at my company.

They are all young. Wanted to be social again. Wanted to throw big birthday parties. They did that even when the restaurants were locked down.

Now, we test and pray.





GLP