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Chicago coronavirus: Northwestern Medicine study finds COVID-19 virus strain unique to city

CHICAGO (WLS) -- Researchers at Northwestern University have genetically sequenced the COVID-19 virus in 88 patients and found many infected in the city have a unique strain of the virus rarely seen around the world.

Early results from a Northwestern Medicine study suggest Chicago has a unique strain of COVID-19 in addition to other strains, including one globally impacting people and centered in New York.

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siren2
 Quoting: Guythu


"The Chicago COVID-19 variant appears to be directly from the early outbreak in China, experts said."

...from the article

I'll take riots and biowarfare for $200, Alex.
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does that mean it went dormant and came back on its own with some new zest?
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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US questions China's credibility on reporting fresh #coronavirus cases in Beijing and calls for neutral observers to assess the extent of the outbreak
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Crazy that I don’t even have to watch the news or leave the yard to get Red flag clues to how this gift from China to the world is going.

The big stinking rug that was erroneously left by UPS blocking my porch and walkway TWO DAYS AGO - that the regional UPS boss promised would be picked up today after my having spent an hour and a half on the phone with people in the Philippines who barely spoke English, hung upon me a lot, and had roosters screaming in the background, is still there stinking the air up.

On my way to fetch my trash can this morning I noticed that someone in the multi-generational party people family across the street, who are still partying on, day and night, has developed a loud dry cough.

Normally well behaved neighborhood dogs have gone bat shit squirrelly with anxious whining and barking for way too long times.
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put a for sale sign on it, the bumms will steal it.
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Lol, no bums around here and even the wildlife ignored it - unlike the time someone sent me Hawaiian bread which the raccoons apparently loved. They even tried to haul the empty box back home but it got stuck between shrubs down yonder.

UPS just drove by without stopping so I called the top secret phone number and the boss sent the guy back and now the rug is finally gone!

I bet I’m more happy that it’s gone than it’s rightful owner is to get it. God, who can stand all those chemical smells off gassing from new plastic indoor/outdoor rugs? What a nightmare.
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meh, this only kills asians
 Quoting: Ima Pseudonym


Wait a minute... if we're back in February, I can re-place my bet on the color of Birx's shawl...

 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Nope. We have moved to March.

Oh wait. Yes. That was March.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


SHIT!!! When did that other Wordsworth cross over???

Wait... that was me. FUCK!!! Timeline travel is complicated!!!

That means ANOTHER Wordsworth is going to cross into this timeline.


greatscott
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Serenity Now's List of Lessons Learned from the Pandemic:

1. Have a pool

2. Keep a pandemic calendar to keep track of timelines and Wordsworths
First tell the truth, then give your opinion....
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55 Tampa General Hospital staffers infected with COVID-19

TAMPA — About 55 staff members at Tampa General Hospital are infected with COVID-19, president and CEO John Couris said Thursday.

The majority contracted the virus outside the hospital, but at least six staffers are thought to have come into contact with the disease while caring for patients, Couris said.

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Crazy that I don’t even have to watch the news or leave the yard to get Red flag clues to how this gift from China to the world is going.

The big stinking rug that was erroneously left by UPS blocking my porch and walkway TWO DAYS AGO - that the regional UPS boss promised would be picked up today after my having spent an hour and a half on the phone with people in the Philippines who barely spoke English, hung upon me a lot, and had roosters screaming in the background, is still there stinking the air up.

On my way to fetch my trash can this morning I noticed that someone in the multi-generational party people family across the street, who are still partying on, day and night, has developed a loud dry cough.

Normally well behaved neighborhood dogs have gone bat shit squirrelly with anxious whining and barking for way too long times.
 Quoting: sos


Try living in the middle of a tourist trap.

We have four types of people:

Coughers. They mostly stay inside unless running mainly necessary errands.

Residents who may or may not be wearing masks but act semi-normally and have adapted to the situation.

The tourists who look freaking petrified at the coughers and masks as if we all descended out of a sci-fi alternate reality to ruin their vacation.

The tourists who do not give a fuck and are still partying it up, not social distancing, and drinking their way straight through Armageddon.

But yeah, it aint normal. Nothing about this is normal.
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Sorry, TC. It's madness all over.
First tell the truth, then give your opinion....
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Playing around with data a bit for one of my more complete data sets. Light green is reported cases, The dark green line is "Best Guess" cases, assuming every reported death resulted from 20 cases two weeks prior: [link to ibb.co (secure)]

So assumptions made:
-5% Mortality Rate
-Two weeks from infection to mortality

Note the correlation with the Hospitalization data, though it seems offset by ~7 days suggesting the second assumption is off.
 Quoting: Dutchy20


Probably talking to myself here but still might as well share if anyone is interested.

So I changed the assumptions, instead of simply going with 2 weeks prior I found some data on average hospital stay and broke it down for probability of death over a 30 day period - [link to ibb.co (secure)]

Problems with the data set:
-Does not account for people never admitted, it's likely that there is a group that dies before ever making it into hospital systems but the percentage is unknown.
-The data extends to 60 days but the first 30 days capture ~85%-90 of cases

Then shifted the cases back 1 day for 20%, 2 days for 30%, 3 days for 30% and 4 days for 20%.

Graphing that against the data I had to decrease Mortality to 3.3% for the projected cases not to fall below actual cases found at any point (Highest possible mortality rate) - [link to ibb.co (secure)]

This would put the Netherlands at a total of 200k Cases vs 50k recorded.
 Quoting: Dutchy20


And forgive my March fear mongering.....

I think we will see an uptick in deaths not Covid classified....

Heart attacks

SIDS

And Owl’s smarts.... cancers (esp. blood)

Strokes
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It's my birthday!!!

June 18. This is my birthday song that I first heard on the night I turned 26. I have played it every year since then. I've never shared it until now. I want to dedicate this song to my GLP friends and especially Mr. Pillar, who will turn 25 in a few days.

Turn it up, and sing to the top of your lungs.....love you all!



 Quoting: Serenity Now


Hey, Happy almost 29 birthday, Serenity!!! Hope you’re having a great day!bandchoruscheercheercheer
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Almost 29? I wish! Happy birthday to you too, sos!!!! I feel 29, so that's good!

hf
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Almost all of us are almost 29 - just from the other side. ;)
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The novel #coronavirus found in #Beijing's Xinfadi market came from #Europe, but it was older than the coronavirus in current outbreak in Europe: Chinese CDC expert


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Confusing shit...

hmm
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I took a stroll down Memory Lane. Over a year ago I posted on Pooka's Prepping Even if Poor thread:

People get hung up on the doom flavor of the month, but we never know what is going to hit us.

Sometimes we get warning. I watched Hurricane Harvey as it formed and the projected paths of that storm.

However, I don't think anyone seriously considered what four to five FEET of rain in 24 hours would do to the Houston area.

I will say that Bio Doom is high on my list. Not only do we have natural pandemics but, based on what I have been told, there are a LOT of countries with bio warfare labs.

All we need is for the Andromeda Strain to escape and humanity could get wiped out.

However, I think the most likely dooms to plan/prep for are:

1. Normal household emergencies such as illness, loss of income, house fires, accidents.

2. Financial panics and recessions. They happen regularly. The governments have been spending like drunken sailors and the hangover is inevitable.

3. Political conflict, much more likely than world war. The political divide is serious and I would not be surprised to see more violence and assassinations.

4. Hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, forest fires, earthquakes, volcanoes, etc. have always happened and will happen again.

5. Regional conflicts such as India/Paks, Taiwan, Israel/Iran, etc. are likely, but will they spill over?

EMP, tsunami bombs, and thermonuke war are lower on my list mainly because the retaliation would be so severe.

Note that I am not convinced of the micro nova/Earth reversing rotation doom. The amount of energy needed to slow and then reverse the Earth's rotation is so enormous, I think that such an event would melt the crust and end all human life. OK, maybe a micro nova is possible, but I really doubt it repeats exactly every 12,000 years. Few things in the natural world are so precise in cycles.


As I stated, Bio Doom was always at the top of my list. However, I never dreamed it would be so dire with friends and family getting infected by a virus that might take years to kill them.

Never considered that The Queen and I would be hunkered down on our farm, possibly for YEARS.

Sucks.
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You and the Queen are loved.
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The novel #coronavirus found in #Beijing's Xinfadi market came from #Europe, but it was older than the coronavirus in current outbreak in Europe: Chinese CDC expert


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Confusing shit...

hmm
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So... novel, but not so novel???

stoned
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The novel #coronavirus found in #Beijing's Xinfadi market came from #Europe, but it was older than the coronavirus in current outbreak in Europe: Chinese CDC expert


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Confusing shit...

hmm
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Ignore them :)

It is bad... that is all that is needed.
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Fauci says: No second lockdown
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Follow the science!
Round and round it goes...where it stops tomorrow, nobody knows.
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It’s like a bb that rolled down the 2019 hill, into the gutter, circled the storm drain and fell down the tube never to be seen again.
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The novel #coronavirus found in #Beijing's Xinfadi market came from #Europe, but it was older than the coronavirus in current outbreak in Europe: Chinese CDC expert


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Confusing shit...

hmm
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77841583


So... novel, but not so novel???

stoned
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Covid de Corona

Vivimos en mierda espectáculo!

Wait....

espectáculo de mierda?

Damn word placement.
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Playing around with data a bit for one of my more complete data sets. Light green is reported cases, The dark green line is "Best Guess" cases, assuming every reported death resulted from 20 cases two weeks prior: [link to ibb.co (secure)]

So assumptions made:
-5% Mortality Rate
-Two weeks from infection to mortality

Note the correlation with the Hospitalization data, though it seems offset by ~7 days suggesting the second assumption is off.
 Quoting: Dutchy20


Probably talking to myself here but still might as well share if anyone is interested.

So I changed the assumptions, instead of simply going with 2 weeks prior I found some data on average hospital stay and broke it down for probability of death over a 30 day period - [link to ibb.co (secure)]

Problems with the data set:
-Does not account for people never admitted, it's likely that there is a group that dies before ever making it into hospital systems but the percentage is unknown.
-The data extends to 60 days but the first 30 days capture ~85%-90 of cases

Then shifted the cases back 1 day for 20%, 2 days for 30%, 3 days for 30% and 4 days for 20%.

Graphing that against the data I had to decrease Mortality to 3.3% for the projected cases not to fall below actual cases found at any point (Highest possible mortality rate) - [link to ibb.co (secure)]

This would put the Netherlands at a total of 200k Cases vs 50k recorded.
 Quoting: Dutchy20


And forgive my March fear mongering.....

I think we will see an uptick in deaths not Covid classified....

Heart attacks

SIDS

And Owl’s smarts.... cancers (esp. blood)

Strokes
 Quoting: CleverCreator


I know, things will change, but the problem I am trying to solve for is another one. Missed Cases. A main problem with the method is that mortality will probably change over time. That said though it gives a indication.

Does change the way case growth in the US has progressed: [link to ibb.co (secure)]

This would put the US at ~3.8m cases to data.
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This shit pisses me off.... and the reason I don’t feel bad for saying nope, I will not participate.

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Cancer survivor, diabetic... went back to work only to be deaded by covid19.

We live in coocoo world.
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[Reuters]: Mainland China reports 32 new COVID-19 cases, 25 of which were in Beijing. A total of 28 cases in the mainland were reported a day earlier, 21 of which were in Beijing

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So I guess we are supposed to believe this is just a formate problem and not a problem of fish and mammals at the market being infected before they were slaughtered.

Really now? Where are all the studies they love to throw at us on this? Seems like it would be pretty easy to do an autopsy on the uncut tissues to prove this if this formite assumption is provable.

I haven’t seen anything but assumptions. Has anybody else? I’m not buying it. So far as I‘m concerned all fish and mammals will be considered infected until proven otherwise.
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First the Netherlands and now Denmark

11,000 mink to be killed at Danish farm due to coronavirus outbreak

More than 570,000 of the animals were recently ordered to be culled in the neighboring Netherlands after the virus was detected at 13 different farms there, according to Reuters.

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First the Netherlands and now Denmark

11,000 mink to be killed at Danish farm due to coronavirus outbreak

More than 570,000 of the animals were recently ordered to be culled in the neighboring Netherlands after the virus was detected at 13 different farms there, according to Reuters.

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So, it's not in the meat processing centers. It's in the animals.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture.
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First the Netherlands and now Denmark

11,000 mink to be killed at Danish farm due to coronavirus outbreak

More than 570,000 of the animals were recently ordered to be culled in the neighboring Netherlands after the virus was detected at 13 different farms there, according to Reuters.

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So, it's not in the meat processing centers. It's in the animals.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Oof.
I wish you hadn’t just come out and said it like that.
Sounds bad when you do.
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So it wasn’t the just the salmon?
Something doesn’t add up.

Coronavirus: Beijing market outbreak investigation zeroes in on seafood stalls

Top epidemiologist says there are similarities to the situation in Wuhan at the start of the outbreak last year

Areas where seafood, beef and lamb were sold found to have more traces of the virus than other sections

...“More seafood vendors were infected, followed by beef and lamb vendors,” Wu said. “The seafood vendors also showed symptoms earlier than others.”

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First the Netherlands and now Denmark

11,000 mink to be killed at Danish farm due to coronavirus outbreak

More than 570,000 of the animals were recently ordered to be culled in the neighboring Netherlands after the virus was detected at 13 different farms there, according to Reuters.

[link to thehill.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Guythu


So, it's not in the meat processing centers. It's in the animals.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Oof.
I wish you hadn’t just come out and said it like that.
Sounds bad when you do.
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I have an annoying habit of not dancing around things.

But trust me, it's the last thing I wanted to be true. I'm a steak and salad person. It's not much of a meal with just the salad.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture.
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First the Netherlands and now Denmark

11,000 mink to be killed at Danish farm due to coronavirus outbreak

More than 570,000 of the animals were recently ordered to be culled in the neighboring Netherlands after the virus was detected at 13 different farms there, according to Reuters.

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 Quoting: Guythu


So, it's not in the meat processing centers. It's in the animals.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Oof.
I wish you hadn’t just come out and said it like that.
Sounds bad when you do.
 Quoting: Guythu


I have an annoying habit of not dancing around things.

But trust me, it's the last thing I wanted to be true. I'm a steak and salad person. It's not much of a meal with just the salad.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Sure isn’t.
Maybe it’s just the minks.
And not the beef where thousands of processors/packers are becoming ill.
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So, it's not in the meat processing centers. It's in the animals.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Oof.
I wish you hadn’t just come out and said it like that.
Sounds bad when you do.
 Quoting: Guythu


I have an annoying habit of not dancing around things.

But trust me, it's the last thing I wanted to be true. I'm a steak and salad person. It's not much of a meal with just the salad.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Sure isn’t.
Maybe it’s just the minks.
And not the beef where thousands of processors/packers are becoming ill.
 Quoting: Guythu


Then again, Beijing markets seem to have broad spectrum detection across all types of cutting boards.
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So it wasn’t the just the salmon?
Something doesn’t add up.

Coronavirus: Beijing market outbreak investigation zeroes in on seafood stalls

Top epidemiologist says there are similarities to the situation in Wuhan at the start of the outbreak last year

Areas where seafood, beef and lamb were sold found to have more traces of the virus than other sections

...“More seafood vendors were infected, followed by beef and lamb vendors,” Wu said. “The seafood vendors also showed symptoms earlier than others.”

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 Quoting: Guythu


This is rather uncomfortable..


“In January, after the first cases of the deadly new virus were detected in the city of Wuhan and traced to the market, the Chinese CDC found most of the positive samples in its western section, where wild animals and seafood were sold.

Wu said comparing the findings of the two investigations, in Wuhan and Beijing, provided a “direction to unravel the mystery”.”
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Oof.
I wish you hadn’t just come out and said it like that.
Sounds bad when you do.
 Quoting: Guythu


I have an annoying habit of not dancing around things.

But trust me, it's the last thing I wanted to be true. I'm a steak and salad person. It's not much of a meal with just the salad.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Sure isn’t.
Maybe it’s just the minks.
And not the beef where thousands of processors/packers are becoming ill.
 Quoting: Guythu


Then again, Beijing markets seem to have broad spectrum detection across all types of cutting boards.
 Quoting: Guythu


When it was just US meat processing centers, there was a possibility that it was just the safety standards there not being enough for COVID.

But now it's in European processing centers - with a completely different set of standards.

1 + 1 + culled minks + infected pets = probably infected cows
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

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That or it's a PETA conspiracy.
Never rule that out.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

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Oof.
I wish you hadn’t just come out and said it like that.
Sounds bad when you do.
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I have an annoying habit of not dancing around things.

But trust me, it's the last thing I wanted to be true. I'm a steak and salad person. It's not much of a meal with just the salad.
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Sure isn’t.
Maybe it’s just the minks.
And not the beef where thousands of processors/packers are becoming ill.
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Then again, Beijing markets seem to have broad spectrum detection across all types of cutting boards.
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Uh oh... from the article I posted above:

“..also said hands should be thoroughly washed with soap and hot water after handling raw meat, poultry and seafood products and advised people not to touch their eyes and nose when buying or handling raw food.”
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[Reuters]: Mainland China reports 32 new COVID-19 cases, 25 of which were in Beijing. A total of 28 cases in the mainland were reported a day earlier, 21 of which were in Beijing

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So I guess we are supposed to believe this is just a formate problem and not a problem of fish and mammals at the market being infected before they were slaughtered.

Really now? Where are all the studies they love to throw at us on this? Seems like it would be pretty easy to do an autopsy on the uncut tissues to prove this if this formite assumption is provable.

I haven’t seen anything but assumptions. Has anybody else? I’m not buying it. So far as I‘m concerned all fish and mammals will be considered infected until proven otherwise.
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After googling around for “mink food” it seems they are mostly carnivorous. Saw a YouTube video of a mink farmer grinding up muskrats to feed the minks.yak

I’m sticking with all these so-called “formite” problems in meat markets being actually infected meat. Once again, I’m open to reason but absolutely none has been provided on the subject. It should be so simple for the so-called experts to gather and deliver the facts but...crickets.

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It's my birthday!!!

June 18. This is my birthday song that I first heard on the night I turned 26. I have played it every year since then. I've never shared it until now. I want to dedicate this song to my GLP friends and especially Mr. Pillar, who will turn 25 in a few days.

Turn it up, and sing to the top of your lungs.....love you all!



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Hey, Happy almost 29 birthday, Serenity!!! Hope you’re having a great day!bandchoruscheercheercheer
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Almost 29? I wish! Happy birthday to you too, sos!!!! I feel 29, so that's good!

hf
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Almost all of us are almost 29 - just from the other side. ;)
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Hahahaha, I've been 29 exactly twice :)
"This is the way the world ends, not with a bang but with a gasp."

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