Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315

Good morning, all....

Yes on that path, but even a masking wearing one is going to get sick at some point....

Lack of proper decon.

Takes it off at their desk.

Takes it off at lunch at restaurant.

No goggles. No ear protection.

Just fucked. As a world.... fucked.

And it’s March again.....

Bring on the timeline fight.

CHINA IS STILL ASSHOLE.

I liked your story too! Lol.

It’s the reason that I taught dogdog how to potty inside. My heart hurts for the dogs that need to really get their run on. She is small enough to lap inside.

YUP..

That was a subtle slap down...lol

I enjoy how we have been talking about food and the concern we have had since

FEBRUARY

about how to get stuff in the home before the contamination becomes too great.

And check out the second comment....

[link to godlikeproductions.com]

This food thing is going to make the conspiracy of conspiracy of conspiracy crowd lose the ever-lovin’ minds.

Oh and the water thing.... big cities should be concerned and older packed European villages. But Americans in suburbia with new pipes....not so much.

You can call the local officials to ask how often pipes are replaced. Iowa is often because of winter damage...so I would hope other northern states follow the same path.

I’m not all in on the actual meat being contaminated..yet. And if it is then the only option is to throroughly cook it.

If it is in the actual meat tissue then local butcheries will/should start having problems. I haven’t seen any of that..again, yet.

But definitely keeping an eye on it.

Last Edited by Guythu on 06/19/2020 08:39 AM

Welcome back GetBent.

I think it’s still a larger processing plant contamination issue. But as you don’t bother to notice the 100 plus meat processing plants having issues...

Well I suppose you could jump to conclusions.

No. I think we are lucky at this point... contamination yes.... not infected. Well not yet.

But imagine the normal folks that don’t properly prepare or wash.... etcetera.... this will be a continued vector as long as the meat is in circulation.

I'll take rabid dogs over snakes any day.



(Okay, fine, I'd actually choose the snakes)

Last Edited by TlvmmCpoft on 06/19/2020 09:11 AM

Yep. Lots of useful info in here. It's not just about a virus. It's how to survive the damn thing.

I think the processing plant contamination is more to do with close working conditions etc.But I would not rule out cross species contamination as we have seen evidence of this in mammals etc. I just think it's unlikely.

If there was a serious problem with the meat and fish industries, we would see the evidence in places such as New Zealand who claim to have eradicated the virus.

If the virus was common place in animals and water, wouldn't we see this in New Zealand? just a thought, don't want to burst your doom bubble..

English dooode....

You’re lost in translation. So I will leave it at this....

No one has eradicated this virus. If you still believe a nose or throat swab is good test... your year is going to be rough.

Now.... about mental illness.... reminds me of Zakk and the face touches. Which also brought me back to the year long hunt for Vallow’s kids .... they thought Zombies were coming.

I didn’t think about that ... since I first heard about their zombies summer 2019. But... another Mental Person.... Zombies.

Covid19 Zombies are not my idea of a doomsday. I wanted the flip. This is just... blurgh.

The conditions in these places don't help. It's cold and moist with more then just water droplets in the air. Up to now I don't know of any case where human contact wasn't the most reasonable means of transfer.

That said it's also a lot easier to assume that the spread was caused through the path of least resistance so if there was proof of fomite spread it would likely be overlooked. From where I am standing at the moment with the knowledge I have I doubt there is a considerable amount of fomite spread occurring. Nor do I reasonably suspect animals that aren't mammals can be infected.

Given difficulty testing people at the moment there is a understandable lack of proof that cattle like pigs/cows are active carriers of the virus. I purposefully use active carrier because even if the virus can infect other mammals and replicate inside them, not all would develop symptoms if the viability for replication is minimal.

What stands out about the mink farms is that the animals actually showed symptoms of respiratory distress, so the hurdle to warrant testing them was lower. The same happened with the Tiger in the NY zoo and of the dogs/cats tested most were suspect of being a transmission vector. I wouldn't mind seeing studies on cows/pigs but I am not aware of any.

The Chinese claims are wonky. For over a week it was left at traces on a cutting board where salmon was processed. Worker bending over it to cut and breathing down could easily explain that. Still no real claim of there being contamination inside anything processed there but a mystery earlier mutation from Europe that magically suits the "China not bad" narrative is now suddenly found. I wouldn't believe that without outside verification which the chinese most likely will obstruct.

Oh China is really trying to change the timeline again. But really it doesn’t matter.

As stated in February, March, April, May, and NOW June.... no one gets out of this unscathed.

where is this fucking zakk guy now anyways?

After talking to friends and family I see why TX and FL are having such problems.

TX seems to believe the virus is over. Little to no mask use or social distancing. Capacity at 50% is close to normal as most places never hit 100%; as the 100% is based on fire marshal capacity.

My brother is probably positive, as he lost all sense of taste and smell, but still doesn't have his results from his test last Thursday morning.

The delay is causing many people to return to work, as they can't wait up to two weeks for results. FL gonna FL.

replace pipes? u serious? when the incident with FLINT went on,the local news here admitted they are still working to replace the lead pipes since the 70's.there are stories of the pipes feeding NYC leaking so bad,towns have turned into swamps.i am sure most pipes are the originals.

HITLER banned lead and got rid of it. that is how far behind the US is.

I am sorry about your brother and everyone that feels they must go back to work. Society failed.

Hugs and prayers.

And those places lack critical thinking of the masses (lead poisoning... great) which is yet a reminder why this virus will just keep going.

So many reminders of how (as a whole) we have failed... horribly.

depends how many ppl are infected in your area and if those incude farmers. a local shop would b safer than a national shop esppecially one that deals with imported meat.

There is sufficient confusion about the timeline regardless. There are plausible scenario's that could out community spread in china back to September/ late August last year it's just difficult to prove. Depending on underlying assumptions a good indicator is ~2 months to two weeks prior first recorded death for the start of community spread. First infection is anybody's guess, it could hop around in a small population for a while before being noticed or spread outwards.

Get used to the rinse repeat though, finding actual news will become harder as research becomes more specific and harder to fit in the overall picture. News media being news media will just regurgitate the same old baseless claims to make headlines and people will find new magical pills that aught/should/might/could work to prevent infection/decrease time ill/decrease mortality or whatever the desired outcome is.

We're now in the first repetition cycle, except it to become a monthly thing. Meanwhile watch the numbers they report on steadily grow and the life expectancy to slowly decline.

Hundreds Infected In Coronavirus Outbreak At Dole Salad Plant

less than 50%

A significant outbreak of coronavirus is underway at a Dole prepackaged salad plant in Springfield, Ohio. Health authorities first reported an outbreak at the plant back in May.

This past Saturday, officials conducted a mass testing event at the plant, taking over 800 samples. The Clark County Combined Health District says about 220 of those test results have come back positive.

And this is why proving fomite spread right now is politically undesirable...

i agree with DUTCHY that the conditions in the meat processing centers helps keep the virus viable and spread. i was never convinced they could clean these factories as fast as the claims. there would b fat particales floating in the air all over the roof joists. it is imbedded into the walls,flooring,etc. and with electrical power running everywhere. to clean for a virus,you'd have to dismantle machinery. do this while wearing a full bio suit and thick gloves.you are not going to deeep clean with a pressure washer.

the practices being used to slow the spread inside workplaces is laughable. putting up plexiglass between customer and cashier is not stopping air flow.it ain't stopping transfere from worker to worker either. they use the same doors,bathroom,break room,halls,etc.this is why i expected infection to get out of hospitals via lower level workers not just nurses and dr's.

that being said the verdict is out on if animals have this. if it can go from ppl to any mammal then explain why it can't go back too?once the virus jumps from 1 species to the next ,we have a major issue. this becomes a full ELE. by the way bats are not birds. so there's that.

Vegetable salad or salad with chicken and bacon bits?

TGIF

Looks like the food safety issues are here.

Oh and it can survive in water too or is that China b.s.?

I better not have to cull my dogs. Fuck this interspecies bullshit

Last Edited by dyin on 06/19/2020 10:27 AM

Bats are rodents which is a subfamily of mammals. From the reporting we have here in regards to the mink farms the transmission does indeed seem to be two ways but it's hard to prove. If a human brought it in, infected the animals and then another person becomes infected chances are there was contact between the two individual humans.

My biology background is shaky at best but from what I understand it depends a lot on how likely the virus is to bind to the specific ACE2 receptors and this varies between species.

The precautions being taken are more about giving a sense of safety then about actual protection. It's demoralizing to realize that we're now basically 3 months in and if we had taken it serious from the start and taken the full hit economically at once it could have been (near) exterminated by now.