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The 2nd wave appears to be much less lethal?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78879741


Posted about it last night. China says the mutated strain is less lethal but is more contagious. One would think that’s good news, however, it could result in health services failing and causing more deaths due to unavailable services for treatment of other ailments/diseases.
 Quoting: Guythu


And all the viruses all over the world suddenly mutated in the same way?

One of the main risks we are running atm is that in different places the virus diverges in different ways, possible creating multiple viable strains that could each have a different immunity profile.

The increase of cases we are currently seeing in the US is mostly in younger people. They don't die as often but they do have longer hospital stays if it becomes severe.
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Mississippi posts COVID-19 data after 5-day delay

JACKSON, Miss. (AP) — The Mississippi Department of Health reported 1,646 new cases of coronavirus and 40 deaths on Monday, after a five-day delay in posting figures online.

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This was over a 5 day period. The average is what we've been seeing. Our hospitalizations are slightly up, but we're not calling broken arrow yet.
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This is one point I will agree with you on. I was just thinking about this the other day.

What happened with Elton John and Madonna and the basketball players who tested positive? What bout the Pope? Has he been seen? Kim Jong-un? I tried doing some research and finding out but couldn't find shit out there.

And I am pretty good at finding information! :)
 Quoting: dyin


They take the hydroxychloroquine protocol (with zinc) within the first two days and recover. That is what happens. One of the top epidemiologists in the world released an article advising all Primary Care doctors be encouraged to prescribe the protocol on an outpatient basis, and it would save 100,000 lives over the next 6 months. Journal of epidemiology. He is Harvard and near nobel in his rank.

This is being suppressed by the msn and the powers that be.

New here. Will have to keep the page number to find any replies?

Academic article from a top epidemiologist:
It is safe. [link to academic.oup.com (secure)]

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As virus cases soar, Pakistan says it must keep economy open

ISLAMABAD (AP) — The coronavirus is spreading in Pakistan at one of the fastest rates in the world, and its overwhelmed hospitals are turning away patients. But the government is pushing ahead with opening up the country, trying to salvage a near-collapsed economy where millions have already slid into poverty from pandemic restrictions.

[link to apnews.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Guythu


“ lockdowns” of healthy people really are only possible for privileged societies. Poor villages and cities simply cannot support the needs of millions of people
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CA and TX both just broke 5k.

CA: +5,497
TX: +5,112

 Quoting: Vegz


Texas death rate report today: 10
Weekly daily average: 30
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As virus cases soar, Pakistan says it must keep economy open

ISLAMABAD (AP) — The coronavirus is spreading in Pakistan at one of the fastest rates in the world, and its overwhelmed hospitals are turning away patients. But the government is pushing ahead with opening up the country, trying to salvage a near-collapsed economy where millions have already slid into poverty from pandemic restrictions.

[link to apnews.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Guythu


“ lockdowns” of healthy people really are only possible for privileged societies. Poor villages and cities simply cannot support the needs of millions of people
 Quoting: dodger007


interesting point, however, the poorer the township, the easier to survive.. they do not need to rely on 'big industry'
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As virus cases soar, Pakistan says it must keep economy open

ISLAMABAD (AP) — The coronavirus is spreading in Pakistan at one of the fastest rates in the world, and its overwhelmed hospitals are turning away patients. But the government is pushing ahead with opening up the country, trying to salvage a near-collapsed economy where millions have already slid into poverty from pandemic restrictions.

[link to apnews.com (secure)]
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“ lockdowns” of healthy people really are only possible for privileged societies. Poor villages and cities simply cannot support the needs of millions of people
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And they will slowly run out of healthy people.... it won’t be noticeable for a few more months.
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Not even sure what to say.

DOJ Forces NY to move to Phase 2

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 Quoting: Guythu


NY pos testing: 1% rate over past week
Deaths today: 14, weekly avg 23

NY has no SCIENTIFIC excuse to be locked down. At all.
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disney workers start petition to delay reopening

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Hey Bastetcat!

This is a good reminder of how many things shut themselves down way before governments got involved. I expect to see more of that going forward.

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Just decided to quit smoking today and start healthier life.Instead of drinking those high sugar drinks I will drink water with lemons every day.Benefits of this are huge ,not to mention better immunity :) I know what was cause of my depression it was organic.My organism is so filled from toxins from drinking and smoking ,unhealthy lifestyle and eating :(
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As virus cases soar, Pakistan says it must keep economy open

ISLAMABAD (AP) — The coronavirus is spreading in Pakistan at one of the fastest rates in the world, and its overwhelmed hospitals are turning away patients. But the government is pushing ahead with opening up the country, trying to salvage a near-collapsed economy where millions have already slid into poverty from pandemic restrictions.

[link to apnews.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Guythu


“ lockdowns” of healthy people really are only possible for privileged societies. Poor villages and cities simply cannot support the needs of millions of people
 Quoting: dodger007


And they will slowly run out of healthy people.... it won’t be noticeable for a few more months.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Well, with 212 million people, presumably there are enough to run an economy
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June 22nd guy here. Just checking in. Not much to say, I think the steady drip is obvious now to anyone looking at this critically. I don't have any new dates to watch out for, we're past that now. Regardless of politics and what is being said to keep hope afloat, know that TPTB are planning now beyond 2024. Let that sink in for a minute. There will be no return to normalcy anytime soon. No miracle cure, no herd immunity anytime soon. Just the steady drip. And like Chinese Water Torture, this steady drip is going to take its toll on more than just our physical health. Mental health going forward is going to be more and more at risk. I also urge people to view contagion periods not in 14,27, or even 45 day windows. Way back when I said 90 days. There is no published data to support my claim I know, but I will state again, make your plans around 90 day windows, which is near impossible I know.

I can say this fall will be bad, but then so will the spring, and next fall and so on. It doesn't matter anymore. It is bad now and only going to get worse. The hope on high is that this thing just mutates into a less deadly wee beastie. But even with all the talk of various strains and mutations, it has so far proved to be a highly stable virus. Expect to be distracted, continuously by world events as the months roll by. Community mental health will demand it, but even with distraction, the steady drip will be there in the background.

I don't know how this ends. Perfectly assumed healthy people walking around right now with unknown organ damage completely oblivious to the war raging in their bodies. But it doesn't take a lot of math skills to understand that once we passed 100,000 cases a day, it doesn't take much time to get to 1,000,000 cases a day. And again, Watch what the militaries of the world are doing, not what is being said.

Good luck. I'll check in again in the fall.
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Is this the Arkansas Ranger / June 22 Inflection date guy?
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But, but the shops are open!! The protests continue, the crowds are gathering everywhere, the roads are busy again and all the drive throughs are open! Plus we can look for our holidays and haircuts really soon.And Boris is going to drop the 2m distance.
It must all be over right?
Thats me acting as a SHEEPLE!
We are all well and truly fucked.
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I had to take my dog to the vet due to a sudden injury today.

Everything is packed, people are out and about everywhere. Running, bike riding, at restaurants, stores, gas stations. Roads were extremely busy...

I just wanted to hurry and get home as fast as I could. ugh
 Quoting: dyin



I just got back from doing a no contact wine pickup and had to drive past the mall to get there. The parking lot was packed.

Hope your dog is okay.
 Quoting: Serenity Now


Yeah I drove by great lakes crossing...I think it's the largest outlet mall in the country or something... Absolutely packed.

Yeah she sprained or strained something bad. She's older and was trying to keep up with the younger one...ugh
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Trump rally tomorrow at a Church in Arizona. These men who work at the Church attempt to allay Covid concerns for rally attendees, they say they have air ionisation which kills 99.9% of Covid in the air.

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If it was that easy they would be in every business already to keep the economy going
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Just decided to quit smoking today and start healthier life.Instead of drinking those high sugar drinks I will drink water with lemons every day.Benefits of this are huge ,not to mention better immunity :) I know what was cause of my depression it was organic.My organism is so filled from toxins from drinking and smoking ,unhealthy lifestyle and eating :(
 Quoting: Pillar of Poland



Good for you, Pillar! It's always fun to work on a new good habit.
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Gov Abbot says, "Closing down Texas again will always be the last option" and we need to learn to "coexist" with the virus.

Texas Gov acknowledged facts.

1. In the past five days in June, we've averaged more than 3,500 cases a day

2. Positivity rate has gone from 4.5% in late May to almost 9% now (sheesh)

3. Hospitalizations have averaged more than 3,200 a day in last four or five days

So that's where Texas is at.
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Our little county is exploding. Am hearing our ICUs are at about 75%.
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hang tough girl xo
 Quoting: CitizenPerth


Am doing so.

Only go out when needed. Hating the lockdown and masks, but beats the alternative.
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Clymer, presumably yes, that was the Arkansas Ranger guy.
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Honestly, I don't think anyone is up to the task.

Uncharted territory. It's a bioweapon.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith


With those claims, and some countries trying to get more information about this, it seems to have been shut down hard.

I don't hear this narrative at all any more.

I mean I think people would maybe take it a little more serious if they knew the truth....

Now no one trusts anything said so even if they did come out with the 100% absolute truth, no one would believe it
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Discussion for virus. Are you sure about that?
 Quoting: ConqueringHorsemen


And decent discussion of

POTATOES!

With MAYO!
 Quoting: CleverCreator


... and how to cook up some fine squirrel.
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Real Arkansans do not eat squirrels.

Yes born and raised in the ozarks, Not the flatlands
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Ummmm ..... yeah we do. Fried squirrel or squirrel n dumplins.
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Mississippi posts COVID-19 data after 5-day delay

JACKSON, Miss. (AP) — The Mississippi Department of Health reported 1,646 new cases of coronavirus and 40 deaths on Monday, after a five-day delay in posting figures online.

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 Quoting: Guythu


This was over a 5 day period. The average is what we've been seeing. Our hospitalizations are slightly up, but we're not calling broken arrow yet.
 Quoting: Tarnished Halo


This might help: [link to ibb.co (secure)]

I left the case spike so you can see/show what it did to the averages - Nothing ;)

MS is just above the April 26th Hospitalization levels and ICU occupancy with covid has been ~150 steadily, now just above that.
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And decent discussion of

POTATOES!

With MAYO!
 Quoting: CleverCreator


... and how to cook up some fine squirrel.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith


Real Arkansans do not eat squirrels.

Yes born and raised in the ozarks, Not the flatlands
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78347381


Ummmm ..... yeah we do. Fried squirrel or squirrel n dumplins.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith



A lot of people in Louisiana and Mississippi eat them, too. Hope your burgers were good. It's been a while since I had a good homemade burger.

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June 22nd guy here. Just checking in. Not much to say, I think the steady drip is obvious now to anyone looking at this critically. I don't have any new dates to watch out for, we're past that now. Regardless of politics and what is being said to keep hope afloat, know that TPTB are planning now beyond 2024. Let that sink in for a minute. There will be no return to normalcy anytime soon. No miracle cure, no herd immunity anytime soon. Just the steady drip. And like Chinese Water Torture, this steady drip is going to take its toll on more than just our physical health. Mental health going forward is going to be more and more at risk. I also urge people to view contagion periods not in 14,27, or even 45 day windows. Way back when I said 90 days. There is no published data to support my claim I know, but I will state again, make your plans around 90 day windows, which is near impossible I know.

I can say this fall will be bad, but then so will the spring, and next fall and so on. It doesn't matter anymore. It is bad now and only going to get worse. The hope on high is that this thing just mutates into a less deadly wee beastie. But even with all the talk of various strains and mutations, it has so far proved to be a highly stable virus. Expect to be distracted, continuously by world events as the months roll by. Community mental health will demand it, but even with distraction, the steady drip will be there in the background.

I don't know how this ends. Perfectly assumed healthy people walking around right now with unknown organ damage completely oblivious to the war raging in their bodies. But it doesn't take a lot of math skills to understand that once we passed 100,000 cases a day, it doesn't take much time to get to 1,000,000 cases a day. And again, Watch what the militaries of the world are doing, not what is being said.

Good luck. I'll check in again in the fall.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79057834


hi



Let's see how this unfolds.

You have been really good thus far.
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June 22nd guy here. Just checking in. Not much to say, I think the steady drip is obvious now to anyone looking at this critically. I don't have any new dates to watch out for, we're past that now. Regardless of politics and what is being said to keep hope afloat, know that TPTB are planning now beyond 2024. Let that sink in for a minute. There will be no return to normalcy anytime soon. No miracle cure, no herd immunity anytime soon. Just the steady drip. And like Chinese Water Torture, this steady drip is going to take its toll on more than just our physical health. Mental health going forward is going to be more and more at risk. I also urge people to view contagion periods not in 14,27, or even 45 day windows. Way back when I said 90 days. There is no published data to support my claim I know, but I will state again, make your plans around 90 day windows, which is near impossible I know.

I can say this fall will be bad, but then so will the spring, and next fall and so on. It doesn't matter anymore. It is bad now and only going to get worse. The hope on high is that this thing just mutates into a less deadly wee beastie. But even with all the talk of various strains and mutations, it has so far proved to be a highly stable virus. Expect to be distracted, continuously by world events as the months roll by. Community mental health will demand it, but even with distraction, the steady drip will be there in the background.

I don't know how this ends. Perfectly assumed healthy people walking around right now with unknown organ damage completely oblivious to the war raging in their bodies. But it doesn't take a lot of math skills to understand that once we passed 100,000 cases a day, it doesn't take much time to get to 1,000,000 cases a day. And again, Watch what the militaries of the world are doing, not what is being said.

Good luck. I'll check in again in the fall.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79057834


Is this the Arkansas Ranger / June 22 Inflection date guy?
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Yes
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Clymer, presumably yes, that was the Arkansas Ranger guy.
 Quoting: Serenity Now


Same linguistic patterns.
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I know. It can suck. About every 4th weeks.
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... and how to cook up some fine squirrel.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith


Real Arkansans do not eat squirrels.

Yes born and raised in the ozarks, Not the flatlands
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Ummmm ..... yeah we do. Fried squirrel or squirrel n dumplins.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith



A lot of people in Louisiana and Mississippi eat them, too. Hope your burgers were good. It's been a while since I had a good homemade burger.
 Quoting: Serenity Now


Squirrel etouffee is yummy too.
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But, but the shops are open!! The protests continue, the crowds are gathering everywhere, the roads are busy again and all the drive throughs are open! Plus we can look for our holidays and haircuts really soon.And Boris is going to drop the 2m distance.
It must all be over right?
Thats me acting as a SHEEPLE!
We are all well and truly fucked.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 90977


It must be over. Everything back to normal - just a metre distance coming soon.

Lowest case figures since lockdown started - all sorted - the virus has gone away.....
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


Far to early to end the lockdown, but I guess we have to save the economy...Catch22...
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I feel bad for that one Italian who believes what the doctors said to the Italian press. It breaks my heart.
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Thank you, but don't feel bad for me.

Officially we have been in Phase 3 for 8 days, but in practice for 3 weeks, yet today fortunately we have had the record of fewer deaths since the beginning of the epidemic: 23, yet even today -21 people are in intensive care for a total of "only" 127 (from over 4000 in early April)

I don't know how it works in the United States, but I repeat that most people here use masks also on the street and in some regions it is mandatory to do this, that masks are mandatory in closed places and before entering closed places measured the temperature (which must be lower than 37.5 degrees centigrade) and you have to disinfect your hands.

I posted a movie of American Got Talent where the crowded audience is shouting and applauding, without masks, without a distance of at least one meter, so I ask you if in the United States applied the three basic rules known from the first days of the pandemic:

Mask
Social distancing
Hygiene of the hands


Because even if the virus was not less aggressive (we await scientific evidence) then it means that these three simple rules work perfectly, but to watch your TV shows, it seems that you Americans have not understood it, so it is I who feel bad for you and for all of you.
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Same linguistic patterns.
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I thought so, too.
First tell the truth, then give your opinion....
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Just decided to quit smoking today and start healthier life.Instead of drinking those high sugar drinks I will drink water with lemons every day.Benefits of this are huge ,not to mention better immunity :) I know what was cause of my depression it was organic.My organism is so filled from toxins from drinking and smoking ,unhealthy lifestyle and eating :(
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Today my malaria pit doom garden has been renamed The Garden of Eden 2.0. We must stay positive!

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