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2020

It’s just insanity.

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epiclol


"not all at once"


epiclol
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Rule #1.

Never underestimate the enemy.


Scientists just beginning to understand the many health problems caused by COVID-19

“We thought this was only a respiratory virus. Turns out, it goes after the pancreas. It goes after the heart. It goes after the liver, the brain, the kidney and other organs. We didn’t appreciate that in the beginning,” said Dr. Eric Topol, a cardiologist and director of the Scripps Research Translational Institute in La Jolla, California.

Rooters
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79075512


Before any of it was public, before anybody it truly hit main stream, I warned you all. This is not a lung disease, it's a whole body bio agent.

You must never, EVER get this into your system. Do all in your power to stay free of it.

Uncle Doom loves you all.


*SOS when you staple chicken wire to windows, inside and out is best.

Just make sure that you are able to open at least one for an emergency exit should need arise.

*Keep you sterilisation fluid and units on hand. A plastic bin some cold water and baby sterilisation fluid makes for the best ever bulk canned good cleaner.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78775417

I apologize if I have a mix-up. Did you also advise to have a supply of bandages or something to that sort? I did get some, but could you now tell us why?
 Quoting: Moniker Shmoniker


Good question. My guess is that we will be doing more stuff for ourselves which = more cuts which = more entry points, if left uncovered, for Chinese ades to enter our bodies. Cuts and scratches are important to cover these days.
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I posted last Friday how my son and gf were exposed on Thursday. They both tested on Sat and it was negative. Son tested again yesterday bc he said he didn’t feel right...negative.

Called me at 5 Am and asked me to come to his room saying his chest hurt...shoulder/arm hurt and felt like he was going to throw up. He was crying. He’s 21....I can’t remember the last time he cried. It eased some by the time we got here. He said he had not slept well all night. Just felt off.

So now I’m just sitting in the parking lot. My husband is offshore so I’m on my own. Don’t want to call and freak him out until I know something.
I would think if he had Corona it would have shown on test by now right?
 Quoting: Presley Page


I'm sorry to hear about your son. Do you think the anxiety of the possibility of having it is causing panic attacks?

The test depends a LOT on the person doing it. If they don't get all the way back to the nasopharynx then the test could be negative because he/she didn't get to the desired sample area. Ask him if they touched the back of his throat through his nose to get a good indication of the swab was done correctly.
 Quoting: Tarnished Halo


Here's a crazy thought.

Rather than sticking a long qtip back there and relying on a test to tell you if you have it ...

Why not have a good stiff drink of distilled spirits and let the vapors go back up in there, and/or use a netipot to flush up in there, and KILL IT?
 Quoting: oniongrass


I was answering the question she asked about could there be a false negative.

As far as using a neti pot to put alcohol into your nasopharynx...um...you first. I had to much of that shit happen when I vomited in high school. LOL
 Quoting: Tarnished Halo


I wasn't thinking of putting the alcohol into the netipot, but something like using the netipot with saline, then having a shot of whiskey.
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It’s a Trap!

China requiring 'virus-free' declaration on all international imports

China will now require proof from the rest of the world that any food or agricultural products entering the country is COVID-free.

Australia is one of the countries that will now be required to attach a Letter of Guarantee declaring all food and imports coming into China are COVID-free.

While the request is not specific to Australia, the Australian government has since advised China of its incredibly high food standards and told producers not to sign the letter.

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 Quoting: Guythu


..Meat and Livestock analyst Simon Quilty said it was important to remember that there was little research to show coronavirus was transmitted on food or drink.
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Wasn’t it sweet of the meat analyst expert to remind us that nothing is know because nobody is looking? See, he cares about informing us. He loves us.
 Quoting: sos


Hmmmmmmm .................

Something else China is not telling the rest of the planet?
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith


GLP knew!
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Stocks are tumbling in the last hour of trading, you know what that means:

Unleash the Kudlow

(@FinancialJuice)

WH ECONOMIC ADVISER KUDLOW: EVERY NUMBER IS SHOWING V-SHAPE RECOVERY FOR THE US.

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I would like to see the numbers he is referring to!
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MAYBE WE WILL REACH 10.000.000 CASES WORLDWIDE THIS W-END...

IF ....IT MEANS WE GOT 1.000.000 NEW CASES A WEEK NOW!!


damned

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 Quoting: Dangerous Times


The extroverts will be the end of us all.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith


If we were all introverts, we'd have kicked corona to the curb a long time ago.

Damn it.

And my extrovert husband has been feeling like crap all week. We shall see.

We're doing prophylaxis and wearing balaclavas with Thieves' oil patted on when going to town, isopropyl alcohol on hands when returning to car, all the stuff that's become the irritating new normal.

Anyone who's had this???? Will you participate in a thread purely about symptoms and length of recovery???

I know with all the nothingburger anti-mask league people it could be irritating, but if this is the crest of the first wave, many more on here are going to experience this.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


You'd probably do better to have that conversation here. Your thread would be hijacked within moments and you'd never get control of it. Yeah, you could moderate it, but at some point you'll have to sleep and it would be nothing but page after page of, "Keep your face diaper away from me!" and "Only pussies wear masks! 'Merica!"
 Quoting: Revbo™


Right....Saw your case in point.

Seems most are conditioned to be deniers until they or a loved one gets it.

Oh bother. The Dao of Pooh.
Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up. ~Fluffy

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Quercitin and zinc...Get it. Take it.

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The Darwin Awards are out of hand this year.

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Lol, do I want to be the first one to give red to that mod in there? Nope.
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The extroverts will be the end of us all.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith


If we were all introverts, we'd have kicked corona to the curb a long time ago.

Damn it.

And my extrovert husband has been feeling like crap all week. We shall see.

We're doing prophylaxis and wearing balaclavas with Thieves' oil patted on when going to town, isopropyl alcohol on hands when returning to car, all the stuff that's become the irritating new normal.

Anyone who's had this???? Will you participate in a thread purely about symptoms and length of recovery???

I know with all the nothingburger anti-mask league people it could be irritating, but if this is the crest of the first wave, many more on here are going to experience this.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


You'd probably do better to have that conversation here. Your thread would be hijacked within moments and you'd never get control of it. Yeah, you could moderate it, but at some point you'll have to sleep and it would be nothing but page after page of, "Keep your face diaper away from me!" and "Only pussies wear masks! 'Merica!"
 Quoting: Revbo™


Right....Saw your case in point.

Seems most are conditioned to be deniers until they or a loved one gets it.

Oh bother. The Dao of Pooh.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


They're all just "over it." Can't tell you how many times I've heard those words in real life over the last few months. I keep telling them the virus doesn't give a damn if you're tired of hearing about it. They are now also tired of hearing me say that and still "over" Kung Flu.
John 8:32

And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
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Stocks are tumbling in the last hour of trading, you know what that means:

Unleash the Kudlow

(@FinancialJuice)

WH ECONOMIC ADVISER KUDLOW: EVERY NUMBER IS SHOWING V-SHAPE RECOVERY FOR THE US.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77841585

In 1971, Kudlow enrolled at the master's program at Princeton University's Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs, where he left before completing his degree.
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The DOW barely hung onto the 25,000 support level. The markets are screaming for round two of the stimulus package.

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Unfortunately, with the numbers they have, probably going to have do more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79075512


Restaurants back to take out only....

That would be the final nail in the coffin for many businesses. Mexican restaurant I picked up from yesterday had a sign that says please limit your table group to 10

another do
 Quoting: Maddrummerboy


Reality is that restaurants were never going to survive. If everyone (officials) had been honest from the beginning a lot of businesses could have pivoted better.

But this idea that life must go on like nothing is wrong is fucking insanity.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


We own a restaurant and were able to get back to pre-Covid sales with curbside. Last week we exceeded sales over last year. Our employees never want to open the dining room again. Where there is a will there is a way.
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applause2

Will and intelligence!
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The Darwin Awards are out of hand this year.

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Lol, do I want to be the first one to give red to that mod in there? Nope.
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I wonder how many realize their working for China, just helping China win the Long Game.
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PENCE: 'THE REALITY IS WE'RE IN A MUCH BETTER PLACE' THAN TWO MONTHS AGO

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Really
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U.S. COMMERCE SECRETARY ROSS SAYS 'NATURAL THERE WILL BE SOME LITTLE INTERRUPTIONS' TO ECONOMY AS U.S. EMERGES FROM PANDEMIC -FOX BUSINESS INTERVIEW


norespect
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epiclol


I just can't.


Really.



They will going to keep saying this shit even when people will fight over bread in the streets.



Ofc, nobody will hear them say it, because you know...we will be busy surviving.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


Well yeah. But I think it’s a good idea they keep saying that shit because ... persuasion/placebo effect.
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I am expecting to see 45k cases reported in the US for today....Next week we will start to see death counts creeping up again.
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TRUMP SAYS 'WE HAVE A LITTLE WORK TO DO' ON CORONAVIRUS AND 'WE'LL GET IT DONE'

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More and more deja-vu...
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


I'm waiting for the classic "The risk to the public remains low" line.
 Quoting: Vegz



Oh, that was a classic!
First tell the truth, then give your opinion....
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Pigeon can catch the virus. Doom on for uk
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Pigeon can catch the virus. Doom on for uk
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Link?
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People could by chance get sane and adjust to the reality that the virus is a serious threat to mostly old people WITH certain co-morbidities.

And after that initial adjustment to sanity, they could get even more sane and decide maybe nobody should wear a mask except maybe old people with certain co-morbidities, and they should wear protective masks (e.g., N95 or greater).

And they then might get even more sane and decide everything should get back to normal except for old people with certain co-morbities.

But that would disrupt the fun of all the malicious people in power "making hay" with this pretend comprehensive threat and would force all the normally insane Americans to to start another deranged movement.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78128618


From a Texas nurse in another thread: "Abbott stated in his address this morning that too many people congregating at bars. This is true. I have seen it with my own eyes. I drive down restaurant areas and there are many people, packed in without masks and just pretending this is not happening. I work at a local hospital. Many young people without pre-existing medical conditions are intubated and not expected to live. This is not a chronic illness history, elderly patient problem. Now is not the time for politics. This is a real problem. We the medical community are caught between fighting politicians and people in general. This is a health crisis. Unless you are the one that has to face a person dying, it is much easier to say that their problem or it won't happen to me. So sad. Good call to shut down the bars. They are way too packed."
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We know at this point Covid-19 is a bi-phasic disease. That is, in most people it presents either asymptomatic or with mild to moderate flu-like symptoms. That's what the vast majority of people experience, including a very significant percentage of people at "high risk."

Indeed even the CDC is now admitting that ten times the number of people that have "tested positive" have actually had Covid-19. This, of course, means the death rate is 1/10th that reported.


We know what the co-morbidities are that greatly increase the risk of that happening (ending up in the ICU/dying)-- in some cases by a factor of 10 or more.

The NIH explicitly recommends against screening for two markers (sequentially, if necessary) that we know, through clinical experience and have known since March, are markers for the more-serious form of the disease when someone originally presents to a medical facility. The cost of such a screening test is about $20.

The NIH specifically recommends against looking for clotting disorders right up front and also recommends against steroids for patients with severe disease even though we now have had a result reported out where the risk of death was cut by more than a third of people in ICU with severe Covid-19 through the use of an inexpensive and readily-available IV steroid.

Has the NIH or CDC modified their protocol and recommendations in light of any of this? No.

In short the NIH is explicitly ignoring the fact that immune dysregulation resulting in clotting disorders are both well-documented in people who have severe Covid-19 courses of disease and specifically recommending against both checking inexpensively for the early manifestation of same and treatment of same EVEN UNDER SEVERE, ADVANCED CONDITIONS.
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$20 for a test that can stop a million dollar hospital bill and a death, no they can’t do that.verysad
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*16 #NBA PLAYERS TESTED POSITIVE FOR VIRUS OF 302 TESTED: ESPN



These are from tests taken on June 23 I think.

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Chinese ades prefers sweaty athlete bodies to all others. Better to replicate with.
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Just doing my part!

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LOL! Thank you for your service! My husband loves that book. I liked the movie.
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Time for a doom break?

I was at the L-5 Society Annual Convention (1984? I forget).

At the banquet, everyone at my table was very excited. I asked why.

"Don't you know? This is Robert Heinlein's table".

So, they seat the great author, Annapolis Class of '24 beside me. We chit chatted.

After I had consumed most of the wine at the table, I turned to him, "Mr. Heinlein, I have a bone to pick with you.

I read your book Starship Troopers and was inspired to go to West Point.

It was not any fun at all".

"Well", he replied, "That's where you screwed up. You should have gone to Annapolis and become a Marine".

Then, he told me a parable.

"We played Army in Chicago when I was a midshipman. The good folk of Chicago got blind dates for all the cadets and midshipmen.

One cadet got on so well with his date that she wrote him a few weeks later to say that she was with child.

The distraught cadet requested compassionate leave and took the train to Chicago.

He met her parents and said, "I am terribly sorry about what happened, but I am ready to resign from the Academy and make your daughter an honest woman."

"That OK, Son" the father replied, "We've discussed it. Go on back. We'd much rather have a bastard in the family than a West Pointer".

Zinged by one of the great men of the 20th century.

Ad astra
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Oh Darth, we are not worthy! You must must write a book!
I love his writings especially Stranger in a Strange land

A couple quotes
I am all that I grok
Never try to outstubbon a cat
And for Wordsworth
“God made alcohol and he made feet - and he made 'em so you could put 'em together and be happy!”
― Robert A. Heinlein, Stranger in a Strange Land
There are tons more gems in that book...
Darth, did you cross paths with Asimov, Sagan or Von Braun...I love love your stories! Thank you for sharing!

Hope all are safe today, catching up now on thread...
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I crossed paths with Jerry Pournelle and Larry Niven. Met Jerry at an SF convention when I was on a panel discussion with him. I was supposed to be the the Reagan Star Wars Program expert.

Met Niven at LASFS:

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Larry was trolling for ideas that I later saw in his books.

I am friends with Marianne Dyson:

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I have seen her at Space Society events here in Houston, but I rarely attend.

A story about Von Braun from my old boss, Hank Hartsfield:

Von Braun's team from Huntsville went to Houston in the early days of Apollo. There was tension because the Houston guys, many WWII vets, did not trust the German team.

"Will this Saturn rocket fail?" Houston asked.

Von Braun turned to his team...

"Will propulsion fail?" "NEIN!" the propulsion guy replied.

"Will structures fail", NEIN! again.

Same for avionics, GNC, etc.

Von Braun turned to his Houston hosts and said, "There you have it. FIVE NINES reliability!"
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Schumann is white hot and has been for many hours....Will today be even crazier than yesterday?

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I will take that bet...

Do you accept scarf colors as payment ?

LOL

I hope Wordsie has a safe and decent day.
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Tomorrow. Wait for it ....
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TRUMP SAYS 'WE HAVE A LITTLE WORK TO DO' ON CORONAVIRUS AND 'WE'LL GET IT DONE'

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More and more deja-vu...
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


I'm waiting for the classic "The risk to the public remains low" line.
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I'm waiting for "the window of opportunity is now"
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Pigeon can catch the virus. Doom on for uk
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Link?
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A great mask rant.

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That was good, and I like how he used the analogy of gun safety. We are under a mandatory mask rule in Virginia. I had to go get a safety inspection for my car this afternoon, and everyone (employees and customers) had a mask on and practiced social distancing. It is not a big deal.

That was the first place of business I've been to in months (other than one trip to the commissary). Weird.
First tell the truth, then give your opinion....
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Cease-And-Desist Letters Sent To Phoenix Dream City Church, Glendale Company Over False COVID-19 Air Filter Claims

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People could by chance get sane and adjust to the reality that the virus is a serious threat to mostly old people WITH certain co-morbidities.

And after that initial adjustment to sanity, they could get even more sane and decide maybe nobody should wear a mask except maybe old people with certain co-morbidities, and they should wear protective masks (e.g., N95 or greater).

And they then might get even more sane and decide everything should get back to normal except for old people with certain co-morbities.

But that would disrupt the fun of all the malicious people in power "making hay" with this pretend comprehensive threat and would force all the normally insane Americans to to start another deranged movement.
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From a Texas nurse in another thread: "Abbott stated in his address this morning that too many people congregating at bars. This is true. I have seen it with my own eyes. I drive down restaurant areas and there are many people, packed in without masks and just pretending this is not happening. I work at a local hospital. Many young people without pre-existing medical conditions are intubated and not expected to live. This is not a chronic illness history, elderly patient problem. Now is not the time for politics. This is a real problem. We the medical community are caught between fighting politicians and people in general. This is a health crisis. Unless you are the one that has to face a person dying, it is much easier to say that their problem or it won't happen to me. So sad. Good call to shut down the bars. They are way too packed."
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open up more bars, spread them out
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By far the best news I’ve seen for the week, possibly the month.
Assuming of course there are only two types of mosquitos.

COVID-19, mosquitoes do not transmit the virus

Both the tiger mosquito (Aedes albopictus) and the common mosquito (Culex pipiens) are unable to transmit the SARS-CoV-2 virus. This is demonstrated by the preliminary data of a study conducted by a team of entomologists and virologists of the Istituto Superiore di Sanità, in collaboration with the Experimental Zooprophylactic Institute of Venice, precisely to evaluate, through tests of experimental infection, the vector competence of the two species of mosquitoes. Research has shown that the virus, once penetrated inside the mosquito through an infected blood meal, is unable to replicate and therefore be subsequently inoculated by the mosquito through a puncture.

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Thank you for putting this up
This is a glimmer of hope because if mosquitoes start transmitting the virus...heaven help us
Why I love this thread and the info posted
Will try to do my part to share info as usual
 Quoting: Bastetcat


But, but ... what about that inevitable blood that doesn’t “penetrate” inside the mosquito and simply clings until leaked into the next victim?
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Those who care. And those who don’t..until they do.

At least 18 members of Texas family test positive for COVID-19 after surprise birthday party

Only one member of the family unknowingly had the virus at the time of the party, WFAA reports.

“We knew this was going to happen. I mean this whole time this has been going on we’ve been terrified,” Ron Barbosa told WFAA.

Barbosa, who is a volunteer EMT, and his wife, a doctor, chose not to attend the party..

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When I read that, I thought that sounds like us (majority on this thread) telling our families to take this seriously.
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I used to feel the urge to bang head here.... but honestly.... if folks haven’t taken this seriously, since March....

They aren’t going to take it seriously.... never ever. I fully expect by end of September that Iowa will have an insanely large number of teachers and kids with Covid19.

It’s heartbreaking, but I can’t participate. I am hoping we get a spike and the governor has to reassess this stoopid idea. Like from the beach vacations that come home to Iowa.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Civid19 resurrects party line calling from extinction. Sends out word to covid infected brains everywhere ‘organize a big party now”.

Notice how it’s always the infected one who’s idea it was.
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I see it and still can’t believe it....
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Antibody testing results coming in from our ambulance service / about 5% with antibodies. Not me though even though I thought I had had it!

Low percentage considering our exposure levels / especially before PPE was being used.
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Let me be the first to say - antibodies don’t mean jack shit. Testing for them is a waste of time and money, IMO. But, carry on world, carry on.





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