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Unless the virus is very easily spread to minks or these farms sharing workers and/or equipment, or even minks?

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UK pauses daily coronavirus death toll update over data concerns

Britain said on Saturday it was pausing its daily update of the death toll from the coronavirus after the government ordered a review into the calculation of the data over concerns the toll might have been exaggerated.

“There have been claims that the lack of cut-off may distort the current daily deaths number. We are therefore pausing the publication of the daily figure while this is resolved.”

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Tarnished, if I may ask. Am I correct in assuming that steroids are generally used to suppress inflammation and overall not very harmful?

And I concur regarding the lurkers! We await your return.
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Ask away! Yes, steroids are to reduce inflammation, but they are dangerous to use long term. They can cause increase in blood glucose in diabetics, bone loss, fluid retention, increase chance of infection and other bad things. Steroids can also cause Cushing's Disease.

They are one classification of drugs where you really have to weigh the risk vs reward.
 Quoting: Tarnished Halo


Okay so suppression mostly, no prophylactic benefits right? Mostly asking because of the the new hype about steroid inhalers, I'm wondering if it's something I need to learn more about if people are going to start randomly recommending it.

I have wasted a lot of time on HCQ and concluded that as long people consult a doctor that knows their medical history, it should be fine to take. No real risks unless you reject alternate treatment for severe cases, but reading medical science papers is not something I like doing for fun.
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My friend did make a turn for the better after starting oral steroids and a steroid inhaler. First hand info as I picked them up for her and left them at her doorstep so I know what she was taking.

I don't think you wasted your time on HCQ at all. The more you learn about medications the better!!
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Jiggle the wires

UK pauses daily coronavirus death toll update over data concerns

Britain said on Saturday it was pausing its daily update of the death toll from the coronavirus after the government ordered a review into the calculation of the data over concerns the toll might have been exaggerated.

“There have been claims that the lack of cut-off may distort the current daily deaths number. We are therefore pausing the publication of the daily figure while this is resolved.”

Rooters
 Quoting: Guythu


Pausing the data on fatalities in the same way they 'paused' the data on testing. Or just not bothering any more. This is cynically taking a concern and using it as an excuse not to report. Herding the sheep.
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Russian Roulette with 5 different calibers.

Nevada continues to see surge in daily COVID-19 cases, leaders 'concerned'

5 versions of COVID-19 circulating in Nevada


"Every version of coronavirus we see on the planet... some member of that family is circulating in Nevada. We don't know why we have such a high diversity in the state."

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thisisfine
 Quoting: Guythu


it's called travel and tourism
We do not learn from history because our studies are brief and prejudiced. In a surprising manner, 250 years emerges as the average length of national greatness. This average has not varied for 3,000years. The stages of the rise and fall of great nations seem to be:
The Age of Pioneers , The Age of Conquests ,The Age of Commerce ,The Age of Affluence ,The Age of Intellect ,The Age of Decadence.
Decadence is marked by: Defensiveness, Pessimism, Materialism,Frivolity An influx of foreigners The Welfare State A weakening of religion. Decadence is due to: Too long a period of wealth and power, Selfishness Love of money ,The loss of a sense of duty.
The life histories of great states are amazingly similar, and are due to internal factors. Their falls are diverse, because they are largely the result of external causes. - Sir John Glubb The Fate of Empires
We are at the end of the Age of Decadence heading into COLLAPSE
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Jiggle the wires

UK pauses daily coronavirus death toll update over data concerns

Britain said on Saturday it was pausing its daily update of the death toll from the coronavirus after the government ordered a review into the calculation of the data over concerns the toll might have been exaggerated.

“There have been claims that the lack of cut-off may distort the current daily deaths number. We are therefore pausing the publication of the daily figure while this is resolved.”

Rooters
 Quoting: Guythu


If you don't like what the data is saying,hide the data so you have time to massage it and make it look better.
Can't have people scared to climb onto the sacrificial alter for the economy. Need them to get out there.
We do not learn from history because our studies are brief and prejudiced. In a surprising manner, 250 years emerges as the average length of national greatness. This average has not varied for 3,000years. The stages of the rise and fall of great nations seem to be:
The Age of Pioneers , The Age of Conquests ,The Age of Commerce ,The Age of Affluence ,The Age of Intellect ,The Age of Decadence.
Decadence is marked by: Defensiveness, Pessimism, Materialism,Frivolity An influx of foreigners The Welfare State A weakening of religion. Decadence is due to: Too long a period of wealth and power, Selfishness Love of money ,The loss of a sense of duty.
The life histories of great states are amazingly similar, and are due to internal factors. Their falls are diverse, because they are largely the result of external causes. - Sir John Glubb The Fate of Empires
We are at the end of the Age of Decadence heading into COLLAPSE
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Russian Roulette with 5 different calibers.

Nevada continues to see surge in daily COVID-19 cases, leaders 'concerned'

5 versions of COVID-19 circulating in Nevada


"Every version of coronavirus we see on the planet... some member of that family is circulating in Nevada. We don't know why we have such a high diversity in the state."

[link to www.ktnv.com (secure)]

thisisfine
 Quoting: Guythu


They don't specify if the 5 corona viruses circulating are all Sars-Cov 2 or simply any corona virus.

I hate that kind of lack of attention to detail.
Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up. ~Fluffy

"Never interrupt an enemy in the process of destroying himself."

Quercitin and zinc...Get it. Take it.

Visit howbad.info...If you took the shot, for sure.
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In the next couple of weeks in the UK there is a scheme called "eat out to help out" being rolled out

Its to encourage people back into the struggling cafes/restaurants

Seems to me a perfect recipe for disaster , on two counts

1. Places will become crowded , with little or no thought for safety as greed takes precedence

2. As places become busy - who knows what goes on behind the scenes in the kitchens ???......

Its also weird (in my opinion) that conditions of the offer are that you must 'eat-in' , it doesn't extend to take-away.

Its like the government have got together and said "How can we get them to all herd together now the protests have died down"

Maybe I think too much outside the box.......but , that's why I lurk here and occasionally post !!
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Haha I think that way too! And totally agree!
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The whole half price Nando's thing seems a very strange idea. Not value for money. Only a limited impact on business and jobs..

The lockdown was only a stop gap to allow the NHS to practice and for the PPE to be stockpiled.

The Nightingale Hospitals are still being built and waiting ready. It's on this winter for sure and it's going to be messy. It's clear the government will not damage the economy any further.

According to the ap from Kings College London the virus cases are no longer going down in the UK.
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Definitely. Winter is going to be dark this year
 Quoting: antivirus201


I really don't get Boris and Sunak's stance right now. I get they are trying to make people comfortable to go out but I think theres two big issues right now:

- 'Normality by Christmas'; this is just another case of the governments obsession with announcing 'good news'. Its totally baseless and just undermines the governments own messaging. Personally I think we should lockdown over Christmas and New Year and tell people to travel and stay in one household; travelling around could be a disaster.

- 'Return to the Office'; its not happening. Cities are dead. We need a scheme to help businesses move and get builders to start converting office space into residential space.

I just don't think they get how big a change there has been. Drops in productivity of test and trace is worrying as well, again suggests they've been playing with the figures.
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Haha I think that way too! And totally agree!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79157655


The whole half price Nando's thing seems a very strange idea. Not value for money. Only a limited impact on business and jobs..

The lockdown was only a stop gap to allow the NHS to practice and for the PPE to be stockpiled.

The Nightingale Hospitals are still being built and waiting ready. It's on this winter for sure and it's going to be messy. It's clear the government will not damage the economy any further.

According to the ap from Kings College London the virus cases are no longer going down in the UK.
 Quoting: lightning1977


Definitely. Winter is going to be dark this year
 Quoting: antivirus201


I really don't get Boris and Sunak's stance right now. I get they are trying to make people comfortable to go out but I think theres two big issues right now:

- 'Normality by Christmas'; this is just another case of the governments obsession with announcing 'good news'. Its totally baseless and just undermines the governments own messaging. Personally I think we should lockdown over Christmas and New Year and tell people to travel and stay in one household; travelling around could be a disaster.

- 'Return to the Office'; its not happening. Cities are dead. We need a scheme to help businesses move and get builders to start converting office space into residential space.

I just don't think they get how big a change there has been. Drops in productivity of test and trace is worrying as well, again suggests they've been playing with the figures.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47033834


The most recent policy decisions smack of panic to me. The restaurant vouchers. Pointless. The CJRS bonus for people still employed in January won't save jobs but will direct cash straight into shareholders pockets.

Anything you see from now on isn't the result of coherent policy but desperation. They will obscure, hide and manipulate. The limited truth we were getting is gone now.
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Some of us have been at each other's throats lately... we've drawn our swords.

But we can't let it come to that. We need each other more than ever.


So come on Love, draw your swords
Shoot me to the ground
You are mine, I am yours
Lets not fuck around



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Comeon RW. Don’t get all sentimental on us. This thing is just starting
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LOL!
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Hk update

Cases rising rapidly now

Government panicking as not enough beds etc

Schools restaurants gyms etc closed again

Few people on street

All this when there is no general testing

Actual no of cases in city is mystery as government negligence in testing and tracing

Most cases in city are local and no idea how they get infected

Taxis buses restaurants even hospitals are cited as new sources

This maybe the feared second wave

Hk now , USA and rest of world next

Be warned and be prepared
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The UK government is now desperately trying to deal with the fallout from the law of unintended consequences. I totally agree with them reviewing the death data though, and thank goodness we have some scientists with enough integrity to point out that the way deaths from Covid have been reported up to now is misleading and inflating the number of deaths probably drastically.
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Hk update

Cases rising rapidly now

Government panicking as not enough beds etc

Schools restaurants gyms etc closed again

Few people on street

All this when there is no general testing

Actual no of cases in city is mystery as government negligence in testing and tracing

Most cases in city are local and no idea how they get infected

Taxis buses restaurants even hospitals are cited as new sources

This maybe the feared second wave

Hk now , USA and rest of world next

Be warned and be prepared
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spock

Look information on Covid

Bravo

banana2
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Jiggle the wires

UK pauses daily coronavirus death toll update over data concerns

Britain said on Saturday it was pausing its daily update of the death toll from the coronavirus after the government ordered a review into the calculation of the data over concerns the toll might have been exaggerated.

“There have been claims that the lack of cut-off may distort the current daily deaths number. We are therefore pausing the publication of the daily figure while this is resolved.”

Rooters
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uk is DESPERATE to get the peasants back to work. i suspect their country is crumbling.
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Eighty-five infants under the age of 12 months have tested positive for coronavirus in one Texas county
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It's a shame they did not clarify the time period
Not enough information is being given
Tired of poorly researched articles from the press

Have they forgotten the 5 W's?

Are they just lazy?
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Hk update

Cases rising rapidly now

Government panicking as not enough beds etc

Schools restaurants gyms etc closed again

Few people on street

All this when there is no general testing

Actual no of cases in city is mystery as government negligence in testing and tracing

Most cases in city are local and no idea how they get infected

Taxis buses restaurants even hospitals are cited as new sources

This maybe the feared second wave

Hk now , USA and rest of world next

Be warned and be prepared
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79110633


spock

Look information on Covid

Bravo

banana2
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Okay. That’s it.

There was plenty information in this thread. You just didn’t like the conversation. And that is not anyone else’s problem, but your own.

Get an account and mute us, but I am done being quiet.

There are wonderful people here that deserve to have more than a couple of pieces of a larger puzzle.

I have some chores, but I will post a big issue then be back later.
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When it comes down to it, we're all hurt...


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Johnny Cash did it better.

But, Wordsie, if you really want to screw yourself up emotionally tonight, search youtube for "Sad Kermit Hurt." I just can't bring myself to actually post the link here. Yes... it is that disturbing.
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Johnny Cash's Hurt has to be be one of the saddest songs ever. I realize it is morning now, but sometime try Disturbed's Sound of Silence.
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The 85 infants that tested positive... the person that swears this should be a covid19 only thread...

You didn’t even think to look up Sudden Infant Death Syndrome.... I said there would be an increase....

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In Iowa they are trying to blame it on unsafe sleeping conditions.
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Hk update

Cases rising rapidly now

Government panicking as not enough beds etc

Schools restaurants gyms etc closed again

Few people on street

All this when there is no general testing

Actual no of cases in city is mystery as government negligence in testing and tracing

Most cases in city are local and no idea how they get infected

Taxis buses restaurants even hospitals are cited as new sources

This maybe the feared second wave

Hk now , USA and rest of world next

Be warned and be prepared
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79110633


spock

Look information on Covid

Bravo

banana2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75464267


Okay. That’s it.

There was plenty information in this thread. You just didn’t like the conversation. And that is not anyone else’s problem, but your own.

Get an account and mute us, but I am done being quiet.

There are wonderful people here that deserve to have more than a couple of pieces of a larger puzzle.

I have some chores, but I will post a big issue then be back later.
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Huh?
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Russian Roulette with 5 different calibers.

Nevada continues to see surge in daily COVID-19 cases, leaders 'concerned'

5 versions of COVID-19 circulating in Nevada


"Every version of coronavirus we see on the planet... some member of that family is circulating in Nevada. We don't know why we have such a high diversity in the state."

[link to www.ktnv.com (secure)]

thisisfine
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Hk update

Cases rising rapidly now

Government panicking as not enough beds etc

Schools restaurants gyms etc closed again

Few people on street

All this when there is no general testing

Actual no of cases in city is mystery as government negligence in testing and tracing

Most cases in city are local and no idea how they get infected

Taxis buses restaurants even hospitals are cited as new sources

This maybe the feared second wave

Hk now , USA and rest of world next

Be warned and be prepared
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Links Please..

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America is the Grand Experiment..Let us not Fail..
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Opinions are like Farts..Only the very best linger on and on
Great Men wake up to slay spam tards. Most are content to chase lizards. Therein lies the difference. Live Brave.LIVE FREE.
Murphy is my patron Saint.
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Hk update

Cases rising rapidly now

Government panicking as not enough beds etc

Schools restaurants gyms etc closed again

Few people on street

All this when there is no general testing

Actual no of cases in city is mystery as government negligence in testing and tracing

Most cases in city are local and no idea how they get infected

Taxis buses restaurants even hospitals are cited as new sources

This maybe the feared second wave

Hk now , USA and rest of world next

Be warned and be prepared
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79110633


Thank you. Stay safe!
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The UK government is now desperately trying to deal with the fallout from the law of unintended consequences. I totally agree with them reviewing the death data though, and thank goodness we have some scientists with enough integrity to point out that the way deaths from Covid have been reported up to now is misleading and inflating the number of deaths probably drastically.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78893283


How do you reconcile this theory with the ONS data on excess deaths? The evidence is clear that many more people have died than would do in any other given year?

My opinion, and only my opinion, is that they review of deaths data is just an attempt to gaslight the UK public into believing things are better than they actually are.
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So much wasted time and resources in the wrong direction : saving the economy.


The governments are in denial stage, they think the economy can be saved, if they avoid lock-downs.


Sadly, the economy cannot be saved, and it will be even worse affected and longer recovery if no lock-downs.



The results of avoiding lock-downs will be heavily felt, by October, and collapsing quickly after October, on both fronts : medical and economic.
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So much wasted time and resources in the wrong direction : saving the economy.


The governments are in denial stage, they think the economy can be saved, if they avoid lock-downs.


Sadly, the economy cannot be saved, and it will be even worse affected and longer recovery if no lock-downs.



The results of avoiding lock-downs will be heavily felt, by October, and collapsing quickly after October, on both fronts : medical and economic.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


October is going to be when the rubber meets the road.

Expect a royal shitshow deluxe from that point forward.

Plan accordingly.
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Eighty-five infants under the age of 12 months have tested positive for coronavirus in one Texas county
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It's a shame they did not clarify the time period
Not enough information is being given
Tired of poorly researched articles from the press

Have they forgotten the 5 W's?

Are they just lazy?
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I think most articles are written by AI at this point.
Truth never damages a cause that is just
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So much wasted time and resources in the wrong direction : saving the economy.


The governments are in denial stage, they think the economy can be saved, if they avoid lock-downs.


Sadly, the economy cannot be saved, and it will be even worse affected and longer recovery if no lock-downs.



The results of avoiding lock-downs will be heavily felt, by October, and collapsing quickly after October, on both fronts : medical and economic.
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Flow of information....

The person pushing the doctor that says symbicort is a cure? No. It is a treatment. It does NOT stop the virus from moving to other parts of the body. And we have no data on their lung function at three months yet. So yes. That’s great there is another treatment.

To the folks that think the official numbers matter.... no. We are officially past numbers mattering because no one is playing fair with them. The important things are obits, increased “accidents “ of all kinds, increased altered mental states, gathering 911 information.... this is how you get real information.

India is falling, but no one is talking about how much longer we have of meds. And there go the spices, but we knew that. And if India is falling, then you damn well know that China culled millions of people because no way in hell is China doing any better.

And there has been no further discussion on the drip of y’all male drips....

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And GuyThu...thanks for the articles.

To the rest of you... y’all are loved. Nice music night.
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Eighty-five infants under the age of 12 months have tested positive for coronavirus in one Texas county
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It's a shame they did not clarify the time period
Not enough information is being given
Tired of poorly researched articles from the press

Have they forgotten the 5 W's?

Are they just lazy?
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I think most articles are written by AI at this point.
 Quoting: dyin


:)

Who knew that NPCs would become so vogue?
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Hk update

Cases rising rapidly now

Government panicking as not enough beds etc

Schools restaurants gyms etc closed again

Few people on street

All this when there is no general testing

Actual no of cases in city is mystery as government negligence in testing and tracing

Most cases in city are local and no idea how they get infected

Taxis buses restaurants even hospitals are cited as new sources

This maybe the feared second wave

Hk now , USA and rest of world next

Be warned and be prepared
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spock

Look information on Covid

Bravo

banana2
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Okay. That’s it.

There was plenty information in this thread. You just didn’t like the conversation. And that is not anyone else’s problem, but your own.

Get an account and mute us, but I am done being quiet.

There are wonderful people here that deserve to have more than a couple of pieces of a larger puzzle.

I have some chores, but I will post a big issue then be back later.
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Huh?
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I really thought that 75464267 was commenting they liked the posts information

I appreciated 79110633 post

Maybe I'm judging it wrong?
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Covid domino effect I can see happening.

Stricter regulations on homeschool. Tx is one of the best as far as homeschool laws. It is considered a private school.

There is an explosion in numbers of homeschoolers for the coming school year at least in my area. I don't blame them, but I see there may be consequences. Schools are not going to be happy to lose money. I suspect that there will be a push for stricter regulations.





GLP