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Everyone just needs to drink a big glass of water and chill out.
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Oh well if that’s all....

These are called discussions. Have one or don’t.

Good day.
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I tried in here, several times.

You all are just too attached to your doom.

1dunno1

Go ahead, I guess.
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I fully welcome good news with sources. My arms are wide open as is my mind.

Closest I can find is where places that once had the virus and subsequently opened up have about 4-6 weeks before they start feeling the pressure again.

Lots of rushed “vaccines” and a, as CC concisely put it, “kitchen sink” approach to therapeutics.
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:)

Even NZ tried. They should have stopped travel.
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25 active cases....

NEW ZEALAND

:)

So to all those that think we can keep going.....this virus is a sneaking son of brat.

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And the timing is interesting....

NZ Herald just put out a series on miscarriages. I am Jack’s worried heart.

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Lockdown may cost 200,000 lives, government report shows

Research shines a light on the reasons why the Government has been keen to lift lockdown, in spite of experts claiming it happened too soon

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Peaking doesn't mean it magically is going to go away, it means it's not going to get any worse than what we're seeing right now.

New cases and hospitalizations have been pretty much flat for a week. If you look at the curve for any other outbreak in the world, once it plateaus after the initial surge it pretty much always goes down from there, it's just a question of how quickly.

Arizona and California seem to be pretty much there too, although they are less consistent day to day.
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You really can't explain a plateau in cases as "peaking" unless you can point to mitigation measures that can be attributed to it. If there are no mitigation measures, or mitigation measures that are insufficient to explain the plateau, then it's probably not a peak and you need to look for another explanation. Government manipulation of numbers, testing limits, and plain old human error are the first three I would consider.
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Sure I can, it goes back to my original theory that there's a certain portion of the population that is extremely susceptible and/or extremely exposed due to their lifestyle or occupation.

In the initial surge, all that low hanging fruit is going to get quickly picked off due to how fast this bug spreads.

Once that happens, there's a sharp decline. From that point on, the slope of that decline depends on mitigation factors.

Texas shut down before there was a widespread outbreak in this part of the population. Once they opened up, they got hit just like New England.

Sweden's curve looks a lot like Texas, but they're a couple weeks ahead. They had a second surge too, and then in waned to levels below the surge without additional measures.
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We'll see. I agree with you that the virus will pick off the easy targets first. But less-easy targets can then be infected by them.
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The problem is the easy targets for covid-19 extends to any people who have pre-existing medical conditions. In the US alone that number is the many millions. As research has showed the typical person who dies from this virus is not someone who is on the verge of death, but instead people who were expected to have another 10-15 years of life to live.

The suggestion that there is an initial surge that then falls away because there is no longer any 'low hanging fruit' is hogwash. The people of Brazil know it. Cases and deaths have remained constantly high ever since they entered the pandemic.

In any country where there are no mitigation efforts the many millions of people with the pre-existing medical conditions are always going to be gambling with their life. What's worse, those who already had the virus before and luckily survived will still be at risk as scientists have said that long term immunity is unlikely.
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The problem is the easy targets for covid-19 extends to any people who have pre-existing medical conditions. In the US alone that number is the many millions. As research has showed the typical person who dies from this virus is not someone who is on the verge of death, but instead people who were expected to have another 10-15 years of life to live.

The suggestion that there is an initial surge that then falls away because there is no longer any 'low hanging fruit' is hogwash. The people of Brazil know it. Cases and deaths have remained constantly high ever since they entered the pandemic.

In any country where there are no mitigation efforts the many millions of people with the pre-existing medical conditions are always going to be gambling with their life. What's worse, those who already had the virus before and luckily survived will still be at risk as scientists have said that long term immunity is unlikely.
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Brazil's testing is so inadequate, we don't know what their curve really looks like.

They may very well have started out at 100k cases per day or more and have worked their way down.

Also, you're right people with pre-existing conditions are more vulnerable for death, and probably infection also.

But what I'm talking about is the portion of the population that can't get infected at all.

One of my employee's live-in girlfriend got COVID, and he didn't. He continued to live with her in a tiny apartment for 2 weeks while they were both in quarantine 24/7 and he did not catch it.

I've since heard of another similar story from a friend about a husband and wife where he got it and she didn't, same deal they isolated together in the same house.

There's a significant portion of the population that's immune. I don't know if it's 10%, or 50%, or if it's based on certain genetic heritage. But my personal observations and quite a few news articles suggest this is the case.

But the people with pre-existing conditions are likely not going out to bars... what's triggering this spread right now is young idiots.
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From the "good news" department.

My stepson went back to work a couple of weeks ago.

He's a bartender, attendance was strictly controlled, he wore mask, gloves, etc.

Early last week was told two of his managers had covid.

So he had to get tested. So did his girlfriend, the one he bugged out with for nine weeks from March-late May.

He tested negative. She tested negative.

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming.
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that is great news Larry!
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‘We need to close down’ — Florida reports more than 10,000 coronavirus cases for fifth day

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Administration seeks to zero out CDC, NIH funding in coronavirus relief bill: Sources

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More seafood workers infected

Alaska has another record-high COVID-19 count with dozens of cases among seafood workers

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This was very helpful, and I read a couple of other articles there..very interesting to read about Alaska for this Florida girl...thank you!
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The problem is the easy targets for covid-19 extends to any people who have pre-existing medical conditions. In the US alone that number is the many millions. As research has showed the typical person who dies from this virus is not someone who is on the verge of death, but instead people who were expected to have another 10-15 years of life to live.

The suggestion that there is an initial surge that then falls away because there is no longer any 'low hanging fruit' is hogwash. The people of Brazil know it. Cases and deaths have remained constantly high ever since they entered the pandemic.

In any country where there are no mitigation efforts the many millions of people with the pre-existing medical conditions are always going to be gambling with their life. What's worse, those who already had the virus before and luckily survived will still be at risk as scientists have said that long term immunity is unlikely.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78213068


Brazil's testing is so inadequate, we don't know what their curve really looks like.

They may very well have started out at 100k cases per day or more and have worked their way down.

Also, you're right people with pre-existing conditions are more vulnerable for death, and probably infection also.

But what I'm talking about is the portion of the population that can't get infected at all.

One of my employee's live-in girlfriend got COVID, and he didn't. He continued to live with her in a tiny apartment for 2 weeks while they were both in quarantine 24/7 and he did not catch it.

I've since heard of another similar story from a friend about a husband and wife where he got it and she didn't, same deal they isolated together in the same house.

There's a significant portion of the population that's immune. I don't know if it's 10%, or 50%, or if it's based on certain genetic heritage. But my personal observations and quite a few news articles suggest this is the case.

But the people with pre-existing conditions are likely not going out to bars... what's triggering this spread right now is young idiots.
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Still not something we should base policy on. For now it's best to go with the assumption that just letting it rip will have dramatic effects rather then letting people gamble under the assumption that perhaps there is something that they might have that protects them. Especially since we don't understand where any such potential immunity may come from nor able to test for it combined with a demonstrable lack of knowledge of long-term effects of infection. Just ask Owl if "assumed recovered" is a category you want to be in.
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Tropical wave heading into the gulf towards Texas only has a 20% chance to develop but we have seen then form and become a hurricane in a short time
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Nice photshop
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Is it lol I give zero fucks id break both they jaws!
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Is it a photoshop?
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I've been trying to come up with a regimen of supplements and medications to have on hand to try to mitigate or perhaps a better word might be ameliorate symptoms if I were exposed and started being symptomatic. Im considering asking my doctor for a steroid prescription, prednisone as it has helped in the past with pneumonia, difference of night and within 24 hours so I trust it's efficacy.

I acually believe it healed long standing myalgic inflammation stemming from a bad car accident years earlier. It was the weirdest thing, all these hot spots like an internal heat lamp in certain spots for 3 days and have not had a reoccurrence of what people call fake pain since that first course. I am also looking at laying in a supply of antibiotics just in case. I'm limited as I'm allergic to penicillin so maybe zithromycin and gentamicin.

I may also ask about the inhalable steroid that the doctor in TX seems to have had success with possibly keeping people from winding up in the ICU. I'll probably ask for an antiviral also. All these would only come into play if I were to get sick of course. A daily baby aspirin is all I take, thank God no other medications so far, in decent if not excellent health so far.

The more difficult part is coming up with good alternative support things like vitamins and supplements. The D is easy living in South Florida, I drink a vegetarian protein shake with pre and probiotics and vitamins and eat mostly Mediterranean style with some German foods since I'm from Germany originally but had the good fortune of growing up in Italy before landing in the US.

I wish there were more holistic doctors that practice integrative medicine here. My wish is to wake up in the not too distant future knowing that there are if not a cure but definite working treatments and that this virus becomes more like another strain of the flu at worst or just loses so much potency it'll be just a other cold virus or best disappears, period.
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Nice photshop
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Is it lol I give zero fucks id break both they jaws!
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Is it a photoshop?
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I’m on my mobile. But you can copy the image down and then drop it on Google Image Search.
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NorCal restaurant refuses to serve customers wearing masks, could face license suspension

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I'm not even surprised anymore. Can we call it full on Idiocracy yet?
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Nice photshop
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Is it lol I give zero fucks id break both they jaws!
 Quoting: Q33


Is it a photoshop?
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I’m on my mobile. But you can copy the image down and then drop it on Google Image Search.
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It's legit: [link to nihrecord.nih.gov (secure)]

"The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and NIH held their 3rd annual consultative workshop on Apr. 18 at the Porter Neuroscience Research Center.

On hand for a discussion of such global health issues as Zika virus and HIV/AIDS were Bill Gates, NIH director Dr. Francis Collins and NIAID director Dr. Anthony Fauci. "


It's quite normal for people who's fields overlap to meet with each other. It's dated April 18th 2016.
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Bahamas closes borders to U.S. tourists after COVID-19 cases spike; others still welcome

this is huge as they get 99.9999995% of their tourist dollars form the USA. WE ARE BEING WALLED IN!!!!!

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Agreed this is a big deal...

With no cruise ships, their tourism has to be zilch-ish.

I hope it isn’t for long....
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NorCal restaurant refuses to serve customers wearing masks, could face license suspension

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I'm not even surprised anymore. Can we call it full on Idiocracy yet?
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I'll raise a tall frosty glass of Brawndo to that one...

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‘We need to close down’ — Florida reports more than 10,000 coronavirus cases for fifth day

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It’s coming from a local Democrat...so...yeah...but still, didn’t DP say something about when people start asking to close down...
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Bahamas closes borders to U.S. tourists after COVID-19 cases spike; others still welcome

this is huge as they get 99.9999995% of their tourist dollars form the USA. WE ARE BEING WALLED IN!!!!!

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 Quoting: Joe Preps


Agreed this is a big deal...

With no cruise ships, their tourism has to be zilch-ish.

I hope it isn’t for long....
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So, they close off the US...after being exposed by them....and then invite tourists from less exposed places to come and be exposed to the spike they now have due to tourists, so they can bring it home to their countries.

I'm not usually the one to outright call conspiracy, but it sounds like they're trying to make sure every country gets hit equally at the same rate and the same time.
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Bahamas closes borders to U.S. tourists after COVID-19 cases spike; others still welcome

this is huge as they get 99.9999995% of their tourist dollars form the USA. WE ARE BEING WALLED IN!!!!!

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 Quoting: Joe Preps


Agreed this is a big deal...

With no cruise ships, their tourism has to be zilch-ish.

I hope it isn’t for long....
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Just now catching up......hello! I was thinking the same thing about the cruise ships. Do Europeans go to the Bahamas? I went to Antigua many years ago, and it was mostly European tourists.

Hope you and your hubby are doing well, BC. :)
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I've been trying to come up with a regimen of supplements and medications to have on hand to try to mitigate or perhaps a better word might be ameliorate symptoms if I were exposed and started being symptomatic. Im considering asking my doctor for a steroid prescription, prednisone as it has helped in the past with pneumonia, difference of night and within 24 hours so I trust it's efficacy.

I acually believe it healed long standing myalgic inflammation stemming from a bad car accident years earlier. It was the weirdest thing, all these hot spots like an internal heat lamp in certain spots for 3 days and have not had a reoccurrence of what people call fake pain since that first course. I am also looking at laying in a supply of antibiotics just in case. I'm limited as I'm allergic to penicillin so maybe zithromycin and gentamicin.

I may also ask about the inhalable steroid that the doctor in TX seems to have had success with possibly keeping people from winding up in the ICU. I'll probably ask for an antiviral also. All these would only come into play if I were to get sick of course. A daily baby aspirin is all I take, thank God no other medications so far, in decent if not excellent health so far.

The more difficult part is coming up with good alternative support things like vitamins and supplements. The D is easy living in South Florida, I drink a vegetarian protein shake with pre and probiotics and vitamins and eat mostly Mediterranean style with some German foods since I'm from Germany originally but had the good fortune of growing up in Italy before landing in the US.

I wish there were more holistic doctors that practice integrative medicine here. My wish is to wake up in the not too distant future knowing that there are if not a cure but definite working treatments and that this virus becomes more like another strain of the flu at worst or just loses so much potency it'll be just a other cold virus or best disappears, period.
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Elderberry
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I use Ester C supreme from Sisu
Clear Lung (look on Amazon)
I also use a vitamin b complex

Some here use
Oil of oregano
Thieves oil

There’s a whole thread on supplements

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I'm not even surprised anymore. Can we call it full on Idiocracy yet?
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I'll raise a tall frosty glass of Brawndo to that one...

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I'm not even surprised anymore. Can we call it full on Idiocracy yet?
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I'll raise a tall frosty glass of Brawndo to that one...

dasbier
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Maybe we need to start telling people masks are good for your electrolyte levels?
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Bahamas closes borders to U.S. tourists after COVID-19 cases spike; others still welcome

this is huge as they get 99.9999995% of their tourist dollars form the USA. WE ARE BEING WALLED IN!!!!!

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 Quoting: Joe Preps


Agreed this is a big deal...

With no cruise ships, their tourism has to be zilch-ish.

I hope it isn’t for long....
 Quoting: Bastetcat



Just now catching up......hello! I was thinking the same thing about the cruise ships. Do Europeans go to the Bahamas? I went to Antigua many years ago, and it was mostly European tourists.

Hope you and your hubby are doing well, BC. :)
 Quoting: Serenity Now


We are still going...thank you for asking...

Glad to see you hear tonight...

Joe, that article is behind a paywall for me
I read all my freebies already
Is there anything about people who have homes there and/or those who come aboard their own vessels?
A lot of people take their boats over, especially from Fort Lauderdale and up here..just curious, thanks...
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Bahamas closes borders to U.S. tourists after COVID-19 cases spike; others still welcome

this is huge as they get 99.9999995% of their tourist dollars form the USA. WE ARE BEING WALLED IN!!!!!

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 Quoting: Joe Preps


Agreed this is a big deal...

With no cruise ships, their tourism has to be zilch-ish.

I hope it isn’t for long....
 Quoting: Bastetcat



Just now catching up......hello! I was thinking the same thing about the cruise ships. Do Europeans go to the Bahamas? I went to Antigua many years ago, and it was mostly European tourists.

Hope you and your hubby are doing well, BC. :)
 Quoting: Serenity Now


Can’t blame Bahamas.

2 U.S. Diplomats Among New Coronavirus Cases in Cambodia

Two U.S. diplomats are among five new cases of coronavirus in Cambodia announced Friday by health officials.

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