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Healthcare workers in panic mode in Wuhan. Video shows crying and screaming



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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78227903


yeah, they cant quit. They were threatened if they did they would lose their license. Only the big doctors are allowed to flee. Not the nurses. They don't even have one person controlling the hospital. They left too. There is a nurse pleaing for the military to intervene.
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This video claims to be from inside Bichat Hospital. Empty. Which would confirm that it has been closed.

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I've been to Bichât hospital a couple times it looks like it.
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Am I missing something? If Bichat is closed due to quarantine how did the guy filming the inside get in to do the filming? Hospital corridors are empty all the time if not much is going on.
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I think the fact they quarantined 10 cities, brought in the military and are building a new hospital/mortuary means this is very bad!

A mortality rate of 15% would mean total disaster!
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So which mask? Surgical, n95, n100 ?
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There must be a certain point where there are way to many patients to be observed or treated. It is just a matter of the multiply factor.

Example:

2x 2 = 4, 4x 4 = 16, 16x 16 = 256, 256x 256 = 65,536 etc. At one point the number of patients exceeds the number of doctors, nurses, police, airline crew, army etc. by far.

In my opinion we already have passed that point. But what do I know.. tomato

Edit: I know, the math example is not the actual multiply factor. But just to prove a point how exponentially this can grow.
 Quoting: InterMezzo


These figures are not realistic. You are saying that 256 infected will each infect 256 people when in fact it might be 1 or 2 each.
 Quoting: The Scientist


I know, that's why I added the edit. But 1 or 2 could also be 10 or 100, depending on the busy places they may or may not have been. Add the factor that there is an incubation time to it and it can grow very fast. There are still many walking out there that don't even know they have it.

Even medical scientist do not know all about this virus yet, the way it transforms from patient to patient, etc.

That is my point.

Say 10,000 have been infected and they been in contact with average 10 people each in the past week or so (which is not a crazy number over a week), then it is already 100,000 and so on.. so also take into account the delay factor in which the symptoms visibly show.

But you are right, it is not strict like I mentioned in my example.
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Can the immune system even fight this when your in good shape to begin with?
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Yes.
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Hold on 100nM wide? That means these flimsy face masks offer no protection.

Zero.
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Yep, you'll need better protection, biohazard stuff
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YOU WILL NEED N95 FFR at least.

And still it may only be 95% effective.

Also screw soap - wash your hands in 3% h2o2.

Stock up if you do not have it.

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Stop spreading this lie people, N95 masks do basically nothing!!!!

N95 masks in general filter particles well down to about 0.3 micron in size. The coronavirus is about 0.08 to 0.16 microns max in size according to sources posted online.

N95 mask general ineffectiveness explains why most medical professionals in China are saying that hand washing is the key for preventing viral spread.

Basic N95 mask particle filter size chart

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80-160nm in diameter converts to 0.08-0.16 micron diameter

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You know what - you are 100% right - I stand corrected.

100nm = 1 micron so 80nm=0.08micron

You would need a full blown biohazard mask.
So all these cheap masks are basically worthless.
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thx live


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hey OP i'm also from Belgium ,this letter was on HLN from somebody who is in China with his wife ,so doom is coming also to Belgium ,i removed his name .......

Mijn vrouw en ik zijn sinds 21 januari bij onze familie in Chongqing. Het Chinees Nieuwjaar is ingezet zij het anders dan vorige jaren. Wij en gans de familie volgen de richtlijnen van overheid i.e. zo veel mogelijk binnenblijven ende hygiëne voorschriften volgen (mondmasker wanneer je naar buitengaat en handhygiene). Verder zijn menig openbare plaatsen gesloten, bioscopen e. d. Wees gerust dat iedereen dit hier nauwgezet volgt. .... uit Oostende
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people here have no idea what is coming ....
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Gonne be a wild ride neighbour, be safe out the there down south.
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Can the immune system even fight this when your in good shape to begin with?
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yes 28 of the first 41 patients were released after 10 days
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I think the fact they quarantined 10 cities, brought in the military and are building a new hospital/mortuary means this is very bad!

A mortality rate of 15% would mean total disaster!
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One in every two households would have a death.
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Healthcare workers in panic mode in Wuhan. Video shows crying and screaming



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yeah, they cant quit. They were threatened if they did they would lose their license. Only the big doctors are allowed to flee. Not the nurses. They don't even have one person controlling the hospital. They left too. There is a nurse pleaing for the military to intervene.
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Wow! That scream right there says it all. Tilt, tilt, tilt. Done!

Prayers for these people. Horrible!
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LOTS of flight still departing Beijing to cities around the world.

San Francisco
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Los Angeles
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London
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Paris
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Chicago, Tokyo, Frankfurt, Vancouver
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Seoul
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Washington, DC, Detroit, Newark
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Hong Kong, Moscow
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I just wonder how bad this thing is in North Korea? They will never say anything, and there is no real internet to speak of there, so it could be very bad and we don't know it.
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So which mask? Surgical, n95, n100 ?
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This one: [link to www.amazon.com (secure)]
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China spent the crucial first days of the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak arresting people who posted about it online and threatening journalists.

They knew it was more than just a flu immediately and went full on damage control. Which tells me that it's something more ominous than they're letting on.

Journalists have been detained indefinitely to prevent any "rumors" about the sickness.


Police are in every hospital keeping watch and detaining or making people delete photos and videos. In some cases they are simply confiscated any electronics that could be used to leak information.
 Quoting: JimmyBones


Can't post link to site where this is laid out in full.
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[link to www.re66it.com (secure)]

replace 66 to dd.

From there:

"Dec 8, 2019 is universally regarded as the first case of the coronavirus appearing. Him and about 27 other patients went to the hospital - they all have the same symptoms, and they're identified as 'unknown pneumonia patients'.
Things escalated in the next couple of weeks. On Dec 30, 2019, the seafood market that these cases originated from was identified, but no actions to directly close down and quarantine the market was taken. The SARS like virus was also confirmed and an emergency announcement file is released to medical personels with the last line stating: nobody is allowed to spread any information about this without approval from the authorithy.
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What's interesting to note that the Hong Kong goverment called a stat emergency immediately upon discovering cases within its region on Jan 4, whilst people in Wuhan are still trusting in its leaders and hoping for the best. This went on for an entire week, the Wuhan health committe keeps on stating that no new cases were discovered when in the mean time censored tweets on Weibo states hospitals are completely full with patients and new cases around the world starts to surface.
It is extremely clear at this point that this virus is highly contagious, can transfer between humans and can be deadly. But Wuhan citizens, going with the false info released by its goverment, was still going around the city with no protection whatsoever, believing that this is just a benigh virus under control.

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I'll leave a imgur album of some chatlogs/weibo here, they're all translated. You can see for yourself how serious this thing really is."
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According to your link they speculate 10,000 dead so far! Just wow if true.
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LOTS of flight still departing Beijing to cities around the world.

San Francisco
[link to flightaware.com (secure)]

Los Angeles
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London
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Paris
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Chicago, Tokyo, Frankfurt
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Bad idea!

hiding
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VIRUS ESCAPED LAB ?


Two facilities in Wuhan are linked to covert Chinese biological weapons programs. Did the deadly coronavirus escape from a BW weapons lab?

The deadly animal virus epidemic spreading globally may have originated in a Wuhan laboratory linked to China’s covert biological weapons program, according to an Israeli biological warfare expert.

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siren2

worth questioning...

bump

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^ 1000nm = 1micron sorry - been a long night.
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There must be a certain point where there are way to many patients to be observed or treated. It is just a matter of the multiply factor.

Example:

2x 2 = 4, 4x 4 = 16, 16x 16 = 256, 256x 256 = 65,536 etc. At one point the number of patients exceeds the number of doctors, nurses, police, airline crew, army etc. by far.

In my opinion we already have passed that point. But what do I know.. tomato

Edit: I know, the math example is not the actual multiply factor. But just to prove a point how exponentially this can grow.
 Quoting: InterMezzo


These figures are not realistic. You are saying that 256 infected will each infect 256 people when in fact it might be 1 or 2 each.
 Quoting: The Scientist


Reported this morning on fox that number of cases is increasing by 35% per day
Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance!

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Freshman Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) asks Trump administration if restrictions should be put in place for people traveling from China to United States
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What did Trump say????????????????????
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Great resource
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How many pages did the Ebola threads get to?
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I just wonder how bad this thing is in North Korea? They will never say anything, and there is no real internet to speak of there, so it could be very bad and we don't know it.
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Think positive maybe fatass will catch it
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Healthcare workers in panic mode in Wuhan. Video shows crying and screaming



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yeah, they cant quit. They were threatened if they did they would lose their license. Only the big doctors are allowed to flee. Not the nurses. They don't even have one person controlling the hospital. They left too. There is a nurse pleaing for the military to intervene.
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My heart goes out to those nurses and other health care workers. They need help badly.
Never ever, ever, ever give up!!!
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WHO Situation Report for Jan. 24, 2020:

"Data as reported by: 24 January 2020
SUMMARY
Situation update:
• A total of 846 confirmed cases have been reported for novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) globally;
• Of the 846 cases reported, 830 cases were reported from China;
• Eleven confirmed cases have been reported outside of China in six countries (see table-1),
• Of these 11 confirmed cases, 10 had travel history to Wuhan;
• One confirmed case in Vietnam had no travel history to any part of China but was a family member of a confirmed case who visited Wuhan. This suggests an instance of human to human
transmission that occurred in Vietnam.
• Of the 830 confirmed cases in China, 375 cases were confirmed from Hubei Province;
• Of the 830 cases, 177 cases have been reported as severely ill.
• Twenty-five deaths have been reported to date
• On 24 January 2020, the number of reported confirmed cases of 2019-nCoV has increased by 265 cases since the last situation report published on 23 January 2020, including China which reported additional 259 confirmed cases."

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um it was 26 deaths yesterday wasn’t it? why are people reporting 40 deaths
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Um, because 14 more died?
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Take it with a grain of salt, but someone posted a screenshot of an internal email from "OSF Medical Group", based in Illinois. The email indicated positive cases in Peoria, Bloomington, and Urbana, Illinois...
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You'll need full mask ABEK stuff to keep yourself safe
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Six days to build a death camp, not a hospital. Those patients are not going to be treated really. They will be held and they will most likely die and be contained. So very sad.

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I just wonder how bad this thing is in North Korea? They will never say anything, and there is no real internet to speak of there, so it could be very bad and we don't know it.
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Think positive maybe fatass will catch it
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Thought I read somewhere that NK closed their border with China over concerns of this virus.
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thx live


 Quoting: Dangerous Times


violin
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hey OP i'm also from Belgium ,this letter was on HLN from somebody who is in China with his wife ,so doom is coming also to Belgium ,i removed his name .......

Mijn vrouw en ik zijn sinds 21 januari bij onze familie in Chongqing. Het Chinees Nieuwjaar is ingezet zij het anders dan vorige jaren. Wij en gans de familie volgen de richtlijnen van overheid i.e. zo veel mogelijk binnenblijven ende hygiëne voorschriften volgen (mondmasker wanneer je naar buitengaat en handhygiene). Verder zijn menig openbare plaatsen gesloten, bioscopen e. d. Wees gerust dat iedereen dit hier nauwgezet volgt. .... uit Oostende
10 uur geleden
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Klote, morgen maar even de kasten vullen met voedsel en vocht.
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people here have no idea what is coming ....
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My wife and I have been with our family in Chongqing since January 21. The Chinese New Year is deployed although different from previous years. We and the whole family follow the guidelines of the government, ie stay in as much as possible and follow the hygiene regulations (mouth mask when you go out and hand hygiene). Furthermore, many public places are closed, cinemas e. d. Rest assured that everyone is following this carefully. .... from Ostend
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