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What are the possibilities that AC.. IS the daily mail??
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cruise

What are the possibilities the Daily Mail reads GLP?
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Id say there are alot more people / business watching here than you could imagine
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Some coronavirus testing kits sent around the world are not working properly
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Some coronavirus testing kits sent around the world are not working properly
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you don't say.
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is a diffuser as good as a nebuliser?

TIA...
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UPDATE: Japan reports 2 more cases of coronavirus in Tokyo; 8 people from the cruise ship are in serious condition - NHK/Kyodo
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Dayumn. Are we at 50% infected on that ship? This little fucker has a high attack rate.
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Major news talk show interviewed an american woman in her hospital room and she bbn isnt taking nothing and doing good. Said her cough is gone,ect.. blown out of proportion my opinion
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is a diffuser as good as a nebuliser?

TIA...
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With an r0 of > 4 - maybe 6.6 maybe 12

We are all going to get it.

wtf
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UPDATE: Japan reports 2 more cases of coronavirus in Tokyo; 8 people from the cruise ship are in serious condition - NHK/Kyodo
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Dayumn. Are we at 50% infected on that ship? This little fucker has a high attack rate.
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Major news talk show interviewed an american woman in her hospital room and she bbn isnt taking nothing and doing good. Said her cough is gone,ect.. blown out of proportion my opinion
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Thats cause shes white
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A Thought Experiment.

First, I want to make clear that this in no way means "doomoff" and we all should go back to a regularly schedule programming. I am posting this to show how statistics can be misleading and used to justify / cover up / further any agenda. I think the COVID-19 is serious and we all should do what we can to prepare- but we should also treat all these statistics with a dubious eye. With that said, let's take a short trip down mathematical lane.

Officially, at the moment of writing, there are 64,450 cases world wide. That seems like a big number. In some senses it is a big number. (64k of anything is a lot) However, if we take the total world wide number and compare it to the total populate of Wuhan we start to get a different perspective. The total population of Wuhan is between 8-20 million depending on how you count districts / urban areas [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] For this first step, let's take the smallest population figure (8 million) and compare: 64,450 is 0.805% of the total population of Wuhan. (apparently 4% of the world slip on and die from banana peels every year.)

"But" the skeptic says, the Chinese authorities are wildly under reporting the numbers. The rumors have the number factors higher than the official numbers. Okay, so how do the numbers and comparisons hold up? Well, lets assume that the numbers are in deed a factor of 10 off. The real number of world wide infected is actually 644,500. Lets take that number and compare it to the single city of Wuhan. Well, suddenly we are at 8% infected in a single city. 8% is slightly lower than the total percentage of red heads in Ireland. (10% of the Irish have red hair.) If one day all the red haired Irish turned blond and some percent of them couldn't live with the sudden change - do you think Ireland as a country would cease to exist? Granted it would be big news- and the world would talk about "The day the Irish turned blond" for years - and in Ireland it would become part of their history. But, the key take away is that it would not end the Irish. The people and the country would go on.

So, to go back to Wuhan and COVID-19. The numbers are "shocking" and seem "huge" but this is coming from a city that has at least 8 million people. (the higher number is 21 million) And the 64k or 650k number is world wide infection - being applied to a single city. (granted an industrial modern city)

The final point is - yes, the numbers are serious. Yes, the COVID-19 seems to be highly infectious. Yes, there is a death rate grater than 0. Yes, we should all (always) be prepared. Yes, the governments are doing what governments do - and doing it poorly. But I feel the media hype is hiding something else - something they really don't want people to be looking at. What it is exactly I can't say - it could be simply the globalist shell game of economic growth was crashing before the outbreak -. and this offered a convenient excuse to hide that the whole system is not sustainable - corrupt and ultimately anti-human.

And before anyone points out the ships and the infection rate - contrary to what a lot have said here - cruise ships are actually a poor case study. You have a lot of people living in really close quarters - I would have been shocked (and assumed authority were lying) if a large part of the passengers didn't get infected. We already knew COVID-19 was infectious - we didn't need 3k pasangers locked on a floating prison to prove it.
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Agreed statistics can be changed to suit what ever you want the people to follow.

And the way you show it yep its a non burger.

But then you just look at what the china government has done.
And then you know this aint some flu.
Actions speak better than words.
And chaina is running around with its hair on fire atm
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78476770

That is the part that has me scratching my head. Actions are more important than all the math and numbers they through out.

I wonder if China over-reacted (is over-reacting) because of past mistakes? Was the trade war with the US hitting them much deeper than expected, and they chose this (COVID) to hide the fact that Americans just are not buying stuff?

Outside of the obvious flawed numbers, I think there is a bigger game afoot - and at the very least governments are using this outbreak to do some shaddy things.
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Good day from a warm Moscow. Nothing new epidemiologically to report. My Chinese friend has gone missing though, which is sad. All of his messenger acocunts just vanished, or were deleted.

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A Thought Experiment.

First, I want to make clear that this in no way means "doomoff" and we all should go back to a regularly schedule programming. I am posting this to show how statistics can be misleading and used to justify / cover up / further any agenda. I think the COVID-19 is serious and we all should do what we can to prepare- but we should also treat all these statistics with a dubious eye. With that said, let's take a short trip down mathematical lane.

Officially, at the moment of writing, there are 64,450 cases world wide. That seems like a big number. In some senses it is a big number. (64k of anything is a lot) However, if we take the total world wide number and compare it to the total populate of Wuhan we start to get a different perspective. The total population of Wuhan is between 8-20 million depending on how you count districts / urban areas [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] For this first step, let's take the smallest population figure (8 million) and compare: 64,450 is 0.805% of the total population of Wuhan. (apparently 4% of the world slip on and die from banana peels every year.)

"But" the skeptic says, the Chinese authorities are wildly under reporting the numbers. The rumors have the number factors higher than the official numbers. Okay, so how do the numbers and comparisons hold up? Well, lets assume that the numbers are in deed a factor of 10 off. The real number of world wide infected is actually 644,500. Lets take that number and compare it to the single city of Wuhan. Well, suddenly we are at 8% infected in a single city. 8% is slightly lower than the total percentage of red heads in Ireland. (10% of the Irish have red hair.) If one day all the red haired Irish turned blond and some percent of them couldn't live with the sudden change - do you think Ireland as a country would cease to exist? Granted it would be big news- and the world would talk about "The day the Irish turned blond" for years - and in Ireland it would become part of their history. But, the key take away is that it would not end the Irish. The people and the country would go on.

So, to go back to Wuhan and COVID-19. The numbers are "shocking" and seem "huge" but this is coming from a city that has at least 8 million people. (the higher number is 21 million) And the 64k or 650k number is world wide infection - being applied to a single city. (granted an industrial modern city)

The final point is - yes, the numbers are serious. Yes, the COVID-19 seems to be highly infectious. Yes, there is a death rate grater than 0. Yes, we should all (always) be prepared. Yes, the governments are doing what governments do - and doing it poorly. But I feel the media hype is hiding something else - something they really don't want people to be looking at. What it is exactly I can't say - it could be simply the globalist shell game of economic growth was crashing before the outbreak -. and this offered a convenient excuse to hide that the whole system is not sustainable - corrupt and ultimately anti-human.

And before anyone points out the ships and the infection rate - contrary to what a lot have said here - cruise ships are actually a poor case study. You have a lot of people living in really close quarters - I would have been shocked (and assumed authority were lying) if a large part of the passengers didn't get infected. We already knew COVID-19 was infectious - we didn't need 3k pasangers locked on a floating prison to prove it.
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Agreed statistics can be changed to suit what ever you want the people to follow.

And the way you show it yep its a non burger.

But then you just look at what the china government has done.
And then you know this aint some flu.
Actions speak better than words.
And chaina is running around with its hair on fire atm
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Agreed and plus exponential growth given the R0 > 2 is very concerning. So, doom off? Not at all!
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Good day from a warm Moscow. Nothing new epidemiologically to report. My Chinese friend has gone missing though, which is sad. All of his messenger acocunts just vanished, or were deleted.
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Gone into hideing
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A Thought Experiment.

First, I want to make clear that this in no way means "doomoff" and we all should go back to a regularly schedule programming. I am posting this to show how statistics can be misleading and used to justify / cover up / further any agenda. I think the COVID-19 is serious and we all should do what we can to prepare- but we should also treat all these statistics with a dubious eye. With that said, let's take a short trip down mathematical lane.

Officially, at the moment of writing, there are 64,450 cases world wide. That seems like a big number. In some senses it is a big number. (64k of anything is a lot) However, if we take the total world wide number and compare it to the total populate of Wuhan we start to get a different perspective. The total population of Wuhan is between 8-20 million depending on how you count districts / urban areas [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] For this first step, let's take the smallest population figure (8 million) and compare: 64,450 is 0.805% of the total population of Wuhan. (apparently 4% of the world slip on and die from banana peels every year.)

"But" the skeptic says, the Chinese authorities are wildly under reporting the numbers. The rumors have the number factors higher than the official numbers. Okay, so how do the numbers and comparisons hold up? Well, lets assume that the numbers are in deed a factor of 10 off. The real number of world wide infected is actually 644,500. Lets take that number and compare it to the single city of Wuhan. Well, suddenly we are at 8% infected in a single city. 8% is slightly lower than the total percentage of red heads in Ireland. (10% of the Irish have red hair.) If one day all the red haired Irish turned blond and some percent of them couldn't live with the sudden change - do you think Ireland as a country would cease to exist? Granted it would be big news- and the world would talk about "The day the Irish turned blond" for years - and in Ireland it would become part of their history. But, the key take away is that it would not end the Irish. The people and the country would go on.

So, to go back to Wuhan and COVID-19. The numbers are "shocking" and seem "huge" but this is coming from a city that has at least 8 million people. (the higher number is 21 million) And the 64k or 650k number is world wide infection - being applied to a single city. (granted an industrial modern city)

The final point is - yes, the numbers are serious. Yes, the COVID-19 seems to be highly infectious. Yes, there is a death rate grater than 0. Yes, we should all (always) be prepared. Yes, the governments are doing what governments do - and doing it poorly. But I feel the media hype is hiding something else - something they really don't want people to be looking at. What it is exactly I can't say - it could be simply the globalist shell game of economic growth was crashing before the outbreak -. and this offered a convenient excuse to hide that the whole system is not sustainable - corrupt and ultimately anti-human.

And before anyone points out the ships and the infection rate - contrary to what a lot have said here - cruise ships are actually a poor case study. You have a lot of people living in really close quarters - I would have been shocked (and assumed authority were lying) if a large part of the passengers didn't get infected. We already knew COVID-19 was infectious - we didn't need 3k pasangers locked on a floating prison to prove it.
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Agreed statistics can be changed to suit what ever you want the people to follow.

And the way you show it yep its a non burger.

But then you just look at what the china government has done.
And then you know this aint some flu.
Actions speak better than words.
And chaina is running around with its hair on fire atm
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78476770

That is the part that has me scratching my head. Actions are more important than all the math and numbers they through out.

I wonder if China over-reacted (is over-reacting) because of past mistakes? Was the trade war with the US hitting them much deeper than expected, and they chose this (COVID) to hide the fact that Americans just are not buying stuff?

Outside of the obvious flawed numbers, I think there is a bigger game afoot - and at the very least governments are using this outbreak to do some shaddy things.
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Again given what is leaking through the massive censorship is very concerning.

I do not think China is "overreacting". If it's not a big issue, China would just let those people die.

If it is a big issue for China in the LONG-TERM e.g. the disease is bigger than publicly thought -> Massive actions as they do right now.
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Chinese doctors say Wuhan coronavirus reinfection even deadlier

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China opted for war-like actions.

This is a war. And China takes it very seriously, not because of the rest of the world, but because it is an essential thread to their whole system.
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If CCP survives this, they will probably claim next year there was never so many Chinese in the beginning, and most of the people you thought you communicated with from China were digital bots planted by the CIA. :D
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BREAKING - 9 new cases of coronavirus in Singapore confirmed, total persons infected with the deadly #COVID19 disease now 67.

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Has anyone had any word from Chinese ham radio operators?
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Chinese doctors say Wuhan coronavirus reinfection even deadlier

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Yes we talked about that here over a week ago.

People that got Discharged "Cured" (as the CCP puts it). Later ended up getting reinfected and died immediately.
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Chinese doctors say Wuhan coronavirus reinfection even deadlier

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Yes we talked about that here over a week ago.

People that got Discharged "Cured" (as the CCP puts it). Later ended up getting reinfected and died immediately.
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Viruses are known to reinfect in different ways to the first, take chicken pox for example
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A Thought Experiment.

First, I want to make clear that this in no way means "doomoff" and we all should go back to a regularly schedule programming. I am posting this to show how statistics can be misleading and used to justify / cover up / further any agenda. I think the COVID-19 is serious and we all should do what we can to prepare- but we should also treat all these statistics with a dubious eye. With that said, let's take a short trip down mathematical lane.

Officially, at the moment of writing, there are 64,450 cases world wide. That seems like a big number. In some senses it is a big number. (64k of anything is a lot) However, if we take the total world wide number and compare it to the total populate of Wuhan we start to get a different perspective. The total population of Wuhan is between 8-20 million depending on how you count districts / urban areas [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] For this first step, let's take the smallest population figure (8 million) and compare: 64,450 is 0.805% of the total population of Wuhan. (apparently 4% of the world slip on and die from banana peels every year.)

"But" the skeptic says, the Chinese authorities are wildly under reporting the numbers. The rumors have the number factors higher than the official numbers. Okay, so how do the numbers and comparisons hold up? Well, lets assume that the numbers are in deed a factor of 10 off. The real number of world wide infected is actually 644,500. Lets take that number and compare it to the single city of Wuhan. Well, suddenly we are at 8% infected in a single city. 8% is slightly lower than the total percentage of red heads in Ireland. (10% of the Irish have red hair.) If one day all the red haired Irish turned blond and some percent of them couldn't live with the sudden change - do you think Ireland as a country would cease to exist? Granted it would be big news- and the world would talk about "The day the Irish turned blond" for years - and in Ireland it would become part of their history. But, the key take away is that it would not end the Irish. The people and the country would go on.

So, to go back to Wuhan and COVID-19. The numbers are "shocking" and seem "huge" but this is coming from a city that has at least 8 million people. (the higher number is 21 million) And the 64k or 650k number is world wide infection - being applied to a single city. (granted an industrial modern city)

The final point is - yes, the numbers are serious. Yes, the COVID-19 seems to be highly infectious. Yes, there is a death rate grater than 0. Yes, we should all (always) be prepared. Yes, the governments are doing what governments do - and doing it poorly. But I feel the media hype is hiding something else - something they really don't want people to be looking at. What it is exactly I can't say - it could be simply the globalist shell game of economic growth was crashing before the outbreak -. and this offered a convenient excuse to hide that the whole system is not sustainable - corrupt and ultimately anti-human.

And before anyone points out the ships and the infection rate - contrary to what a lot have said here - cruise ships are actually a poor case study. You have a lot of people living in really close quarters - I would have been shocked (and assumed authority were lying) if a large part of the passengers didn't get infected. We already knew COVID-19 was infectious - we didn't need 3k pasangers locked on a floating prison to prove it.
 Quoting: DDR Lover


Agreed statistics can be changed to suit what ever you want the people to follow.

And the way you show it yep its a non burger.

But then you just look at what the china government has done.
And then you know this aint some flu.
Actions speak better than words.
And chaina is running around with its hair on fire atm
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78476770

That is the part that has me scratching my head. Actions are more important than all the math and numbers they through out.

I wonder if China over-reacted (is over-reacting) because of past mistakes? Was the trade war with the US hitting them much deeper than expected, and they chose this (COVID) to hide the fact that Americans just are not buying stuff?

Outside of the obvious flawed numbers, I think there is a bigger game afoot - and at the very least governments are using this outbreak to do some shaddy things.
 Quoting: DDR Lover


Again given what is leaking through the massive censorship is very concerning.

I do not think China is "overreacting". If it's not a big issue, China would just let those people die.

If it is a big issue for China in the LONG-TERM e.g. the disease is bigger than publicly thought -> Massive actions as they do right now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78460952


I think we agree. I just want to know what else is going on. China hid the dead from the Tiananmen Square protests pretty well. So I wonder why they are not doing it now (to a greater degree) The internet may have something to do with them not being able to hide as much as in the past - but also in 1989 China wasn't the world's factory whore. The west (leadership) would have been more than happy to see the CCP fall at that time.

I am trying to peek behind the curtain. That's all. It is better to assume doom is on - than to not be ready.
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Great topic.

Thanks for the continued updates OP. :)

A question please.

Can anyone list the expected stages once a person is contagious all the way through and leading to death?

I'm somehow not finding this.

Thanks ahead.
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this virus has the combo effects of hardcore flu, hiv, and sars
once infected, the immune system tries expel it by cough/mucus, and temperature
-the issue is that hiv part of it messes the immune system up so have little defense
-this means hardcore flu gets in without much resistance, breathing it in gives you respiratory problems
-f'd immune system means it gets bad quickly,
-pneumonia follows, and patient eventually drowns from liquified lungs
-the infection is so virulent due to its characteristics, there's some biological changes that basically fuk up other organs like heart, thus can also have symptoms of heart attack, hence ppl keeling over everywhere

its a nasty fuker
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Agreed statistics can be changed to suit what ever you want the people to follow.

And the way you show it yep its a non burger.

But then you just look at what the china government has done.
And then you know this aint some flu.
Actions speak better than words.
And chaina is running around with its hair on fire atm
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78476770

That is the part that has me scratching my head. Actions are more important than all the math and numbers they through out.

I wonder if China over-reacted (is over-reacting) because of past mistakes? Was the trade war with the US hitting them much deeper than expected, and they chose this (COVID) to hide the fact that Americans just are not buying stuff?

Outside of the obvious flawed numbers, I think there is a bigger game afoot - and at the very least governments are using this outbreak to do some shaddy things.
 Quoting: DDR Lover


Again given what is leaking through the massive censorship is very concerning.

I do not think China is "overreacting". If it's not a big issue, China would just let those people die.

If it is a big issue for China in the LONG-TERM e.g. the disease is bigger than publicly thought -> Massive actions as they do right now.
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I think we agree. I just want to know what else is going on. China hid the dead from the Tiananmen Square protests pretty well. So I wonder why they are not doing it now (to a greater degree) The internet may have something to do with them not being able to hide as much as in the past - but also in 1989 China wasn't the world's factory whore. The west (leadership) would have been more than happy to see the CCP fall at that time.

I am trying to peek behind the curtain. That's all. It is better to assume doom is on - than to not be ready.
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We will see, but what is 100% for sure:

If Singapore with the best health system worldwide and vast experience from SARS can't contain this beast...

we're ALL fucked.
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Chinese doctors say Wuhan coronavirus reinfection even deadlier

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Yes we talked about that here over a week ago.

People that got Discharged "Cured" (as the CCP puts it). Later ended up getting reinfected and died immediately.
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Viruses are known to reinfect in different ways to the first, take chicken pox for example
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true
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Ningbo, a major Chinese port city where 1 out of 4 people work in the foreign trade sector, has seen its export-dependent economy take a big hit from the spread of COVID19: deputy mayor [link to health.liveuamap.com (secure)]
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This family left Ningbo about 10 days ago and they are currently self quarantining in the Chicago area. Matt is an American and his wife Anny is Chinese. They have a sweet little daughter Eva. His videos of quickly packing up and leaving China and quarantining have been interesting. His wife did not want to leave her family behind, she agreed because she thought they’d be back home in China a couple weeks, or maybe a month . Anny’s family owns a huge picture frame factory in Ningbo which supplies frames worldwide.

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Destruction of Chinese economy is huge
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BREAKING - 9 new cases of coronavirus in Singapore confirmed, total persons infected with the deadly #COVID19 disease now 67.

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I think Singapore have lost the fight
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Chinese doctors say Wuhan coronavirus reinfection even deadlier

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Really good info here. This virus isn't disappearing anytime soon.
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BREAKING - 9 new cases of coronavirus in Singapore confirmed, total persons infected with the deadly #COVID19 disease now 67.

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I think Singapore have lost the fight
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In this case, expect this to go global and prepare.
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We will see, but what is 100% for sure:

If Singapore with the best health system worldwide and vast experience from SARS can't contain this beast...

we're ALL fucked.
 Quoting: LostRabbit


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