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Miami-Dade county reported 96 deaths today - only 4 entire states (including FL) reported more deaths yesterday and Hurricane Isaias approaches threatening to mix covid patients with non-infected patients in evac centers.

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If Isaias has a serious impact from Miami-Dade county up to West Palm Beach, Florida's covid PPE stash could take a considerable hit.

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Folks leaving cities.

San Francisco


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The man who bought our Reston house is moving in 7 Aug. he wants his family the hell out of Dc post haste. Don’t blame him.

We are at the beach house this weekend. Forgot the IPad, so on the phone. Modding is very difficult. If you have a problem, try to ping in Jazzy or Scrump.
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RW - some essential reading ohyeah:


(@Pien_Huang)

The Trump administration told hospitals 2 weeks ago to bypass @CDCgov and send their COVID-19 data to @HHSGov.

Officials promised the data would be faster, more accessible to the public, and more complete.

So is it? /A THREAD



(@Pien_Huang)

TO REFRESH:

CDC had been gathering data from hospitals on the availability of beds, ventilators, PPE, etc since the pandemic began.

In mid-July, hospitals were given 2 days to switch how they report. They were told the new HHS system would be worth it.



(@Pien_Huang)

FASTER:

Under the old system @CDCgov, the public data estimates on hospital capacity were updated 3x a week.

Trump admin argued this was too slow. It's important information -- public health officials rely on the estimates to see if hospitals are at risk of being overwhelmed.


(@Pien_Huang)

Initially, @HHSGov claimed they would update this data multiple times a day.

Then they quietly changed the website to "daily."

But much of the data hasn't been updated in OVER A WEEK.

And now, an HHS spokesperson tells me that it will now be updated weekly.


(@Pien_Huang)

MORE COMPLETE:

@SpoxHHS told @NPR when the change was made that @CDCgov data wasn't getting data from enough hospitals - only 85% - and that "the President's COVID response requires 100 percent to report."


(@Pien_Huang)

To get more compliance, @HHSGov made clear that failing to report data to the new system might affect how much remdesivir - one of the few drugs that's shown promise in treating severe COVID-19 cases - a state gets.

Still, two weeks in, 100% of facilities are not reporting.



(@Pien_Huang)

Instead, 92% of facilities are marked as reporting.

But that's not the whole story.

A hospital counts as "reporting" if it submits just one item
in the past seven days.


And rehab and VA hospitals, which were in the CDC system, are being left out.



(@Pien_Huang)

Asked about this, HHS said:

"These hospitals are not on our list of priority hospitals that we are seeking daily information from because they treat very few, if any COVID-19 patients."

Adding: "The consistency is improving, and we are proud of the progress that has been made."


(@Pien_Huang)

Then there are the anomalies.

Take Arizona. Under the old system, in data collected by CDC, 3,205 #COVID patients in AZ occupied 24% of inpatient hospital beds.

After the switch, HHS showed 82 FEWER #COVID patients hospitalized, but the bed occupancy rate had jumped to 42%.


(@Pien_Huang)

It's unclear how fewer patients in Arizona could be occupying more of the state's hospital beds.


(@Pien_Huang)

There are more anomalies, including Georgia and New Mexico.

In Colorado, July 30 hospitalization data from HHS showed 491 patients, but the state's daily dashboard showed 341.

And Rhode Island shows over 100% of ICU beds filled.


(@Pien_Huang)

IN CONCLUSION:

The new system made hospitals scramble to adapt, and the data is neither faster than the CDC system nor 100% complete.


PLUS there are strange anomalies in the data.
These data are important. People's lives depend on its accuracy.


(@Pien_Huang)

HHS is standing by its decision.

While some hospital assns and states have had "difficulty," HHS has worked to resolve errors, and they "are pleased with the progress we have made during this transition and the actionable data it is providing," a spokesperson told @NPR.

/END


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Folks leaving cities.

San Francisco


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The man who bought our Reston house is moving in 7 Aug. he wants his family the hell out of Dc post haste. Don’t blame him.

We are at the beach house this weekend. Forgot the IPad, so on the phone. Modding is very difficult. If you have a problem, try to ping in Jazzy or Scrump.
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I don’t blame the DC family... instability will continue to become worrisome.

Enjoy the beach. You are appreciated.

A good (no person) photo would be lovely. :)
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all analysis is flawed anyhow. 2 factors are too tuff to judge. ppl and govern too un-predictable.
 Quoting: JAZZz50


Actually both are reasonably predictable.... but you have to be on constant patrol of data points.

And you have to listen more to your gut, intuition, whatever folks want to call it.....

I had just walked out the building. 50 students waiting to cross at the intersection. A few homeless mixed in.

I had the urge to move back quickly. I followed said urge , not but a flash later a baseball bat comes cracking into the homeless man that I was near, from another homeless man.

It is super important to listen to those subtle clues that our brains, souls, God, the universe, angels, etc. offer in the moment. Little things make a big difference.
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Yes, but extremely hard to quantify and if people are aware they have a influence that changes their behaviour because they try to predict other humans -- que endless loop. It's one of the basic problems with social sciences. It's very hard to make humans either purely a independent or dependent variable.

Government aught to be a stabilizing factor by trying to set a common goal and being a trustworthy source of information, which has failed across the board. Earlier this week the scientific advisory board here said there was no scientific basis for mandating masks and now two of the bigger cities are mandating masks in the more populated areas as of next week, clusterfuckery.
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Well, what do ya know!?! That's the one break they never want to cancel.
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Well, what do ya know!?! That's the one break they never want to cancel.
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Lol watch the bill get done in two days now
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all analysis is flawed anyhow. 2 factors are too tuff to judge. ppl and govern too un-predictable.
 Quoting: JAZZz50


Actually both are reasonably predictable.... but you have to be on constant patrol of data points.

And you have to listen more to your gut, intuition, whatever folks want to call it.....

I had just walked out the building. 50 students waiting to cross at the intersection. A few homeless mixed in.

I had the urge to move back quickly. I followed said urge , not but a flash later a baseball bat comes cracking into the homeless man that I was near, from another homeless man.

It is super important to listen to those subtle clues that our brains, souls, God, the universe, angels, etc. offer in the moment. Little things make a big difference.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Yes, but extremely hard to quantify and if people are aware they have a influence that changes their behaviour because they try to predict other humans -- que endless loop. It's one of the basic problems with social sciences. It's very hard to make humans either purely a independent or dependent variable.

Government aught to be a stabilizing factor by trying to set a common goal and being a trustworthy source of information, which has failed across the board. Earlier this week the scientific advisory board here said there was no scientific basis for mandating masks and now two of the bigger cities are mandating masks in the more populated areas as of next week, clusterfuckery.
 Quoting: Dutchy20


Agreed. And it is why the normalcy bias is such a fucking nightmare. And and and....

But it is why those of us having these conversations will help others know when it is time to step back. Just like we knew riots were coming, but we got the reasons wrong. Or we know violent crimes will continue to rise, but there are ways to see it ... even if we don’t get the exact reasons.... we can still hedge against it to protect our bubbles.
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Well, what do ya know!?! That's the one break they never want to cancel.
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Lol watch the bill get done in two days now
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Seriously. Just watch though. We'll get screwed 10 ways to Tuesday on this one.
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Well, what do ya know!?! That's the one break they never want to cancel.
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Because this is a make or break this November .... and the ones on the intelligence committee also know that social stability is at risk.
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Well, what do ya know!?! That's the one break they never want to cancel.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


Lol watch the bill get done in two days now
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Seriously. Just watch though. We'll get screwed 10 ways to Tuesday on this one.
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No. Not this bill. Well not any worse than the first one.

This has to kick the can to at least December. By then no one is going to want to leave the house.
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RW - some essential reading ohyeah:


(@Pien_Huang)

The Trump administration told hospitals 2 weeks ago to bypass @CDCgov and send their COVID-19 data to @HHSGov.

Officials promised the data would be faster, more accessible to the public, and more complete.

So is it? /A THREAD



(@Pien_Huang)

TO REFRESH:

CDC had been gathering data from hospitals on the availability of beds, ventilators, PPE, etc since the pandemic began.

In mid-July, hospitals were given 2 days to switch how they report. They were told the new HHS system would be worth it.



(@Pien_Huang)

FASTER:

Under the old system @CDCgov, the public data estimates on hospital capacity were updated 3x a week.

Trump admin argued this was too slow. It's important information -- public health officials rely on the estimates to see if hospitals are at risk of being overwhelmed.


(@Pien_Huang)

Initially, @HHSGov claimed they would update this data multiple times a day.

Then they quietly changed the website to "daily."

But much of the data hasn't been updated in OVER A WEEK.

And now, an HHS spokesperson tells me that it will now be updated weekly.


(@Pien_Huang)

MORE COMPLETE:

@SpoxHHS told @NPR when the change was made that @CDCgov data wasn't getting data from enough hospitals - only 85% - and that "the President's COVID response requires 100 percent to report."


(@Pien_Huang)

To get more compliance, @HHSGov made clear that failing to report data to the new system might affect how much remdesivir - one of the few drugs that's shown promise in treating severe COVID-19 cases - a state gets.

Still, two weeks in, 100% of facilities are not reporting.



(@Pien_Huang)

Instead, 92% of facilities are marked as reporting.

But that's not the whole story.

A hospital counts as "reporting" if it submits just one item
in the past seven days.


And rehab and VA hospitals, which were in the CDC system, are being left out.



(@Pien_Huang)

Asked about this, HHS said:

"These hospitals are not on our list of priority hospitals that we are seeking daily information from because they treat very few, if any COVID-19 patients."

Adding: "The consistency is improving, and we are proud of the progress that has been made."


(@Pien_Huang)

Then there are the anomalies.

Take Arizona. Under the old system, in data collected by CDC, 3,205 #COVID patients in AZ occupied 24% of inpatient hospital beds.

After the switch, HHS showed 82 FEWER #COVID patients hospitalized, but the bed occupancy rate had jumped to 42%.


(@Pien_Huang)

It's unclear how fewer patients in Arizona could be occupying more of the state's hospital beds.


(@Pien_Huang)

There are more anomalies, including Georgia and New Mexico.

In Colorado, July 30 hospitalization data from HHS showed 491 patients, but the state's daily dashboard showed 341.

And Rhode Island shows over 100% of ICU beds filled.


(@Pien_Huang)

IN CONCLUSION:

The new system made hospitals scramble to adapt, and the data is neither faster than the CDC system nor 100% complete.


PLUS there are strange anomalies in the data.
These data are important. People's lives depend on its accuracy.


(@Pien_Huang)

HHS is standing by its decision.

While some hospital assns and states have had "difficulty," HHS has worked to resolve errors, and they "are pleased with the progress we have made during this transition and the actionable data it is providing," a spokesperson told @NPR.

/END


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I wonder what RW will say, really.


Probably will dismiss it as not being reliable info.
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see the fear on GLP today? notice the top pol posts? the greatest engine in the world is having problems. took centuries to build it and it is very very delicate. it is slowing b ut luckily still workiing. if the great economic engine totally stops good night. the virus has damaged it.

if it ever stops completely,runn for the hills. there is no way in hell to bring it back online all at the same time. we go back to Pioneer days before Colonial America. since ppl no longer grow food and it is not done near cities, it almost takes us to cave man era prior to Agriculture.

there are so many parts to the great engine it is hard to say how slow it can function before total fail. grid- water and power and gasoline. movement of ships and trucks.retail shops with cashiers. money to keep it moving.packaging<yeah that dreaded word again i have yelled many times>.

we have seen hiccups at the bottom and shipping ends. farmers had no where to send product and lost $$. shipping from everywhere is down. the # of parts to put a loaf of bread on the store shelf is astounding.

at some point the system has to go KamiKazi.keep the sheep working even thou they get sick or the ENTIRE thing stops. then the govern loses control. if the ppl wake up to the truth FEAR happens. this is why u see a lot of double talk from the govern including the CDC. cause confusion keep ppl from panic and from seeing the truth.

IF/WHEN the huge economic engine with supply on demand stops, u have 3 days to total collapse and Apocalypse. restarting it is impossable.
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I don't consider postal workers, UPS and Fedex employees, the folks who staff the Costco I visit, my pharmacist, hospital workers, grocery store workers, etc., etc., etc., to be "sheep" as you describe them.

Just offering a different viewpoint about how to think about people without whom chaos would have taken over more than four months ago.
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Well, what do ya know!?! That's the one break they never want to cancel.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


Because this is a make or break this November .... and the ones on the intelligence committee also know that social stability is at risk.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


That's true, but this is the break they do all of their re-election politicing. Not a word, I know. This election season is odd. Not sure if they all know there won't be one or what is really going on. There are NO signs here for any of the elections. Not even the locals.
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DR.... just nod and keep going. It doesn’t get better from here so I just have to thankful for folks like RW that are able to keep out lights on and avoid being sick.

Stay safe. You are all appreciated.
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see the fear on GLP today? notice the top pol posts? the greatest engine in the world is having problems. took centuries to build it and it is very very delicate. it is slowing b ut luckily still workiing. if the great economic engine totally stops good night. the virus has damaged it.

if it ever stops completely,runn for the hills. there is no way in hell to bring it back online all at the same time. we go back to Pioneer days before Colonial America. since ppl no longer grow food and it is not done near cities, it almost takes us to cave man era prior to Agriculture.

there are so many parts to the great engine it is hard to say how slow it can function before total fail. grid- water and power and gasoline. movement of ships and trucks.retail shops with cashiers. money to keep it moving.packaging<yeah that dreaded word again i have yelled many times>.

we have seen hiccups at the bottom and shipping ends. farmers had no where to send product and lost $$. shipping from everywhere is down. the # of parts to put a loaf of bread on the store shelf is astounding.

at some point the system has to go KamiKazi.keep the sheep working even thou they get sick or the ENTIRE thing stops. then the govern loses control. if the ppl wake up to the truth FEAR happens. this is why u see a lot of double talk from the govern including the CDC. cause confusion keep ppl from panic and from seeing the truth.

IF/WHEN the huge economic engine with supply on demand stops, u have 3 days to total collapse and Apocalypse. restarting it is impossable.
 Quoting: JAZZz50




I don't consider postal workers, UPS and Fedex employees, the folks who staff the Costco I visit, my pharmacist, hospital workers, grocery store workers, etc., etc., etc., to be "sheep" as you describe them.

Just offering a different viewpoint about how to think about people without whom chaos would have taken over more than four months ago.
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


Yes. And no. Unfortunately, a disservice is that our society relies on worker bees todo their part.

Most aren’t in a position to walk away.

This was their John Galt moment, but normalcy bias is the glue that keeps on giving, in more than one way.
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RW - some essential reading ohyeah:


(@Pien_Huang)

The Trump administration told hospitals 2 weeks ago to bypass @CDCgov and send their COVID-19 data to @HHSGov.

Officials promised the data would be faster, more accessible to the public, and more complete.

So is it? /A THREAD



(@Pien_Huang)

TO REFRESH:

CDC had been gathering data from hospitals on the availability of beds, ventilators, PPE, etc since the pandemic began.

In mid-July, hospitals were given 2 days to switch how they report. They were told the new HHS system would be worth it.



(@Pien_Huang)

FASTER:

Under the old system @CDCgov, the public data estimates on hospital capacity were updated 3x a week.

Trump admin argued this was too slow. It's important information -- public health officials rely on the estimates to see if hospitals are at risk of being overwhelmed.


(@Pien_Huang)

Initially, @HHSGov claimed they would update this data multiple times a day.

Then they quietly changed the website to "daily."

But much of the data hasn't been updated in OVER A WEEK.

And now, an HHS spokesperson tells me that it will now be updated weekly.


(@Pien_Huang)

MORE COMPLETE:

@SpoxHHS told @NPR when the change was made that @CDCgov data wasn't getting data from enough hospitals - only 85% - and that "the President's COVID response requires 100 percent to report."


(@Pien_Huang)

To get more compliance, @HHSGov made clear that failing to report data to the new system might affect how much remdesivir - one of the few drugs that's shown promise in treating severe COVID-19 cases - a state gets.

Still, two weeks in, 100% of facilities are not reporting.



(@Pien_Huang)

Instead, 92% of facilities are marked as reporting.

But that's not the whole story.

A hospital counts as "reporting" if it submits just one item
in the past seven days.


And rehab and VA hospitals, which were in the CDC system, are being left out.



(@Pien_Huang)

Asked about this, HHS said:

"These hospitals are not on our list of priority hospitals that we are seeking daily information from because they treat very few, if any COVID-19 patients."

Adding: "The consistency is improving, and we are proud of the progress that has been made."


(@Pien_Huang)

Then there are the anomalies.

Take Arizona. Under the old system, in data collected by CDC, 3,205 #COVID patients in AZ occupied 24% of inpatient hospital beds.

After the switch, HHS showed 82 FEWER #COVID patients hospitalized, but the bed occupancy rate had jumped to 42%.


(@Pien_Huang)

It's unclear how fewer patients in Arizona could be occupying more of the state's hospital beds.


(@Pien_Huang)

There are more anomalies, including Georgia and New Mexico.

In Colorado, July 30 hospitalization data from HHS showed 491 patients, but the state's daily dashboard showed 341.

And Rhode Island shows over 100% of ICU beds filled.


(@Pien_Huang)

IN CONCLUSION:

The new system made hospitals scramble to adapt, and the data is neither faster than the CDC system nor 100% complete.


PLUS there are strange anomalies in the data.
These data are important. People's lives depend on its accuracy.


(@Pien_Huang)

HHS is standing by its decision.

While some hospital assns and states have had "difficulty," HHS has worked to resolve errors, and they "are pleased with the progress we have made during this transition and the actionable data it is providing," a spokesperson told @NPR.

/END


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My conclusion: August we will begin to see an overwhelmed system in multiple counties across America. Numbers will keep lying but all eyes will witness.

First we will be blindsided and not even see it coming because even the most keen watcher quants on here couldn't wrap their heads on the possibility of numbers being cooked.

No blames. It is what it is. Accept the fate and just do our own best to stay healthy and independently informed.
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* U.S. HOUSE CANCELS AUGUST RECESS AMID CORONAVIRUS AID BILL TALKS - @CBSNews, CITING HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER HOYER

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Well, what do ya know!?! That's the one break they never want to cancel.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


Because this is a make or break this November .... and the ones on the intelligence committee also know that social stability is at risk.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


That's true, but this is the break they do all of their re-election politicing. Not a word, I know. This election season is odd. Not sure if they all know there won't be one or what is really going on. There are NO signs here for any of the elections. Not even the locals.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


The rioters made it to unstable to put signs up.

And yeah, I can’t imagine the conversations this season. Between pedo island and will our constitutes be well enough to vote.... fuck so many ducks.
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Well, what do ya know!?! That's the one break they never want to cancel.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


Because this is a make or break this November .... and the ones on the intelligence committee also know that social stability is at risk.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


That's true, but this is the break they do all of their re-election politicing. Not a word, I know. This election season is odd. Not sure if they all know there won't be one or what is really going on. There are NO signs here for any of the elections. Not even the locals.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


The rioters made it to unstable to put signs up.

And yeah, I can’t imagine the conversations this season. Between pedo island and will our constitutes be well enough to vote.... fuck so many ducks.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


I don't think it's about the rioters, at least here. There haven't been any...yet. Cleveland, but it's an hour away and they haven't burnt it down yet. Just another dot to watch, I guess.
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RW - some essential reading ohyeah:


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The Trump administration told hospitals 2 weeks ago to bypass @CDCgov and send their COVID-19 data to @HHSGov.

Officials promised the data would be faster, more accessible to the public, and more complete.

So is it? /A THREAD



(@Pien_Huang)

TO REFRESH:

CDC had been gathering data from hospitals on the availability of beds, ventilators, PPE, etc since the pandemic began.

In mid-July, hospitals were given 2 days to switch how they report. They were told the new HHS system would be worth it.



(@Pien_Huang)

FASTER:

Under the old system @CDCgov, the public data estimates on hospital capacity were updated 3x a week.

Trump admin argued this was too slow. It's important information -- public health officials rely on the estimates to see if hospitals are at risk of being overwhelmed.


(@Pien_Huang)

Initially, @HHSGov claimed they would update this data multiple times a day.

Then they quietly changed the website to "daily."

But much of the data hasn't been updated in OVER A WEEK.

And now, an HHS spokesperson tells me that it will now be updated weekly.


(@Pien_Huang)

MORE COMPLETE:

@SpoxHHS told @NPR when the change was made that @CDCgov data wasn't getting data from enough hospitals - only 85% - and that "the President's COVID response requires 100 percent to report."


(@Pien_Huang)

To get more compliance, @HHSGov made clear that failing to report data to the new system might affect how much remdesivir - one of the few drugs that's shown promise in treating severe COVID-19 cases - a state gets.

Still, two weeks in, 100% of facilities are not reporting.



(@Pien_Huang)

Instead, 92% of facilities are marked as reporting.

But that's not the whole story.

A hospital counts as "reporting" if it submits just one item
in the past seven days.


And rehab and VA hospitals, which were in the CDC system, are being left out.



(@Pien_Huang)

Asked about this, HHS said:

"These hospitals are not on our list of priority hospitals that we are seeking daily information from because they treat very few, if any COVID-19 patients."

Adding: "The consistency is improving, and we are proud of the progress that has been made."


(@Pien_Huang)

Then there are the anomalies.

Take Arizona. Under the old system, in data collected by CDC, 3,205 #COVID patients in AZ occupied 24% of inpatient hospital beds.

After the switch, HHS showed 82 FEWER #COVID patients hospitalized, but the bed occupancy rate had jumped to 42%.


(@Pien_Huang)

It's unclear how fewer patients in Arizona could be occupying more of the state's hospital beds.


(@Pien_Huang)

There are more anomalies, including Georgia and New Mexico.

In Colorado, July 30 hospitalization data from HHS showed 491 patients, but the state's daily dashboard showed 341.

And Rhode Island shows over 100% of ICU beds filled.


(@Pien_Huang)

IN CONCLUSION:

The new system made hospitals scramble to adapt, and the data is neither faster than the CDC system nor 100% complete.


PLUS there are strange anomalies in the data.
These data are important. People's lives depend on its accuracy.


(@Pien_Huang)

HHS is standing by its decision.

While some hospital assns and states have had "difficulty," HHS has worked to resolve errors, and they "are pleased with the progress we have made during this transition and the actionable data it is providing," a spokesperson told @NPR.

/END


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I wonder what RW will say, really.


Probably will dismiss it as not being reliable info.
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Because this is a make or break this November .... and the ones on the intelligence committee also know that social stability is at risk.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


That's true, but this is the break they do all of their re-election politicing. Not a word, I know. This election season is odd. Not sure if they all know there won't be one or what is really going on. There are NO signs here for any of the elections. Not even the locals.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


The rioters made it to unstable to put signs up.

And yeah, I can’t imagine the conversations this season. Between pedo island and will our constitutes be well enough to vote.... fuck so many ducks.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


I don't think it's about the rioters, at least here. There haven't been any...yet. Cleveland, but it's an hour away and they haven't burnt it down yet. Just another dot to watch, I guess.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


Understood.... it would have been a conversation at the national level and trickled to local offices. Even local races. I would have suggest it, if still participating.

And in other weird data point news :)

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Date night with the Misses
50% off. Feck it Virus is near nonexistent here
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DUTCHY's point with schools and kids. schools were closed quickly nationwide. open them and these fires burn.

point of the engine is knowledge is power. if u can see the flood coming,u know when to evacuate. the earlier we see it the more time we have.

most here have put food away.how many are ready to survive with nothing coming for 3 years? 5 ? no clothing,no TP,no meds,no soap,no soup? no gas,no power?
 Quoting: JAZZz50


If the virus burns through.... yeah, we can do it. But if sars cov 2 is still moving.... no.

I don’t see the grid issue for at least another year. Food issues first. These idiots will get to experience first hand what life is like in third world nations... in regards to food.

And first.... evictions.... we are about to have clusters in states with high eviction rates.
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can i have what u are drinking?

MURPHY's LAW- what can go wrong will at the WORST POSSABLE MOMENT. when is that? umm below 0 degrees so JAN. BOOM
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A Mississippi woman planted the seeds.... what the hell....

Well. There is the reason as a country we are screwed.

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Fauci on Coronavirus Misinformation: Virus Is Not a Hoax and Children Are Not Immune


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Date night with the Misses
50% off. Feck it Virus is near nonexistent here
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Have fun. Stay as safe as you can.
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Virus patients to be sent to giant Georgia convention center

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Date night with the Misses
50% off. Feck it Virus is near nonexistent here
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Have fun. Stay as safe as you can.
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Choices, choices, choices...

I get it. But, the virus was non-existent everywhere. Until it wasn’t.
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Happy Friday, everybody! Good thread today. Here's another good one in case you missed it. Going to top off preps today in case the hurricane makes its way up here. (Thank you, Jackal!)


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