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Good news on the ICU resources front.



I am not saying being this sick is good news, only that this will free up some beds and maybe stop the system from collapsing.
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I really need you to take a critical thinking course.....

Do you know why this is bad news?

The research fails to take this one step further and calculate how much of said resource would be needed before it is in crisis mode.....
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Spitters are back......

Police: Massachusetts hiker told women he had COVID then spit at them

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The US just reported 12 million coronavirus cases:

0M-1M: 98 days
1M-2M: 44 days
2M-3M: 27 days
3M-4M: 15 days
4M-5M: 17 days
5M-6M: 22 days
6M-7M: 25 days
7M-8M: 21 days
8M-9M: 14 days
9M-10M: 10 days
10M-11M: 6 days
11M-12M: 6 days

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The US just reported 12 million coronavirus cases:

0M-1M: 98 days
1M-2M: 44 days
2M-3M: 27 days
3M-4M: 15 days
4M-5M: 17 days
5M-6M: 22 days
6M-7M: 25 days
7M-8M: 21 days
8M-9M: 14 days
9M-10M: 10 days
10M-11M: 6 days
11M-12M: 6 days

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Please stay home people! But even that may not stop it now.
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Supply chain fuckity fucks

The world's now scrambling for dry ice. It's just one headache in distributing COVID-19 vaccines

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This is still a thing? WTF?


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Well, at least we agree on Vitamin D3. In retrospect with hindsight (always handy), the mostly worldwide lock-down may have been overkill. However, we saw China's reaction and we did not know what we were dealing with at all! Now, at least we know a little bit about this Virus, and have a more measured approach. I do disagree strongly that this is just "a bad flu". I personally know of healthy men in their 30's, 40's, and 50's with no co-morbidities, die of this disease. The one common factor was they ignored it, trying to keep working until they could not breath, and then it was too late. In Mexico, where the health system has virtually collapsed, the death rate among people who catch the virus, is 9.7%! Think about that. If the US health system collapsed, that would be 1.2 million deaths.. [link to coronavirus.jhu.edu (secure)]

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I was wearing a properly fit-tested P100 (OSHA-trained on respirator fit testing).

He was the same as me, his mask was on and off depending on when he was taking a drink.

Exposure would have been this past Tuesday or Wednesday.
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I think you're good. Not that I need to tell you this, but still for the next two weeks you need to assume you were infected.
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FUCK. ME.

Just got notified that I was exposed to Covid by a police officer. He has tested positive and is symptomatic (lost his sense of taste last night, headaches, fatigue, sinus pressure).

He and I were hanging out together at a local gas station Tuesday morning. I had my mask on most of the time, but did take it off a few times to drink a soda.

So I will be getting tested for Covid on Monday. Testing stations are so overwhelmed in Indiana we're going to have to drive an hour from home to get one that soon.

At this point I have no symptoms. Hope I don't have to change the status under my handle. I've been so proud of that.

This is going to SUCK.
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Oh shit! I hope everything turns out ok!
A whole new level of fuckery
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South Korea
Evidence of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome
Coronavirus 2 Reinfection After Recovery from Mild
Coronavirus Disease 2019


Study highlights possible SARS-CoV-2 reinfection with a genetically distinct SARS-CoV-2 strain in patients shortly after recovery from mild COVID-19. SARS-CoV-2 infection may not confer immunity against a different SARS-CoV-2 strain.


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The call was tense, the message discouraging. Moncef Slaoui, the head of the Trump administration’s effort to quickly produce a vaccine for the coronavirus, was on the phone at 6 p.m. on Aug. 25 to tell the upstart biotech firm Moderna that it had to slow the final stage of testing its vaccine in humans.

Moderna’s chief executive, Stéphane Bancel, a French biochemical engineer, recognized the implication. In the race to quell the pandemic, he said, “every day mattered.” Now his company, which had yet to bring a single product to market, faced a delay of up to three weeks. Pfizer, the global pharmaceutical giant that was busy testing a similar vaccine candidate and promising initial results by October, would take the obvious lead.

“It was the hardest decision I made this year,” Mr. Bancel said.

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Why did they have to wait?
If it could not prove its vaccine worked well for Black and Hispanic Americans, who have been disproportionately affected by the pandemic, it would not make it over the finish line.
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This has been on my brain.....

Less than 50% old document but interesting

This document is for informational purposes only and is intended to addressoperational considerations during the COVID-19 pandemic. This does not reflect the Compounding Expert Committee’s opinions on future revisions to official text of the USP-NF. USP is actively monitoring the evolving situation and will update this document accordingly. Parties relying on the information in this document bear independent responsibility for awareness of, and compliance with, any applicable federal, state, or local laws and requirements.

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So even if six months....now.... if it keeps having enough vectors, it’s not going to remain so.....

COVID research updates: Immune responses to coronavirus persist beyond 6 months

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In the interesting department

Structure of SARS-CoV-2 envelope protein solved by NMR
3-D structure of the E protein from the COVID-19-causing virus unveiled


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Actual paper

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So even if six months....now.... if it keeps having enough vectors, it’s not going to remain so.....

COVID research updates: Immune responses to coronavirus persist beyond 6 months

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This corrected proof says otherwise.....

Immune compromised can be sooner.

So either fucked.

Evidence of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 Reinfection After Recovery from Mild Coronavirus Disease 2019

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I was wearing a properly fit-tested P100 (OSHA-trained on respirator fit testing).

He was the same as me, his mask was on and off depending on when he was taking a drink.

Exposure would have been this past Tuesday or Wednesday.
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I think you're good. Not that I need to tell you this, but still for the next two weeks you need to assume you were infected.
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Yeah, with the exception of the test on Monday, I'm self-isolating. Already canceled a security camera installation I had scheduled for Monday.
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Researchers in South Korea have reported the first confirmed case of COVID-19 reinfection. The patient is a 21-year-old woman with a history of allergic rhinitis who was otherwise healthy. Unlike other confirmed cases, the woman had 3 symptomatic episodes in rapid succession, although the third episode may have been linked to the initial infection.

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tt 1
 Quoting: The Gent

I see you are also a fan of Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill and Terry Thomas!
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Very much so....
 Quoting: The Gent


I’m back...I will post about my little outing later..
Riff-sincere positive energy to you that you didn’t pick up the asshole freeloader virus...it doesn’t sound like you were around him long enough to get you sick..FYI Comet is running Star Trek movies all this weekend, I think...
Interesting to me all this talk of Churchill, ‘cause his birthday is November 30th..same as my mother, RIP....Churchill was amazing, one they should teach more over here in high school...

Wanted to post this before I forget
In your spare time, consider at least skimming this pdf
It’s called a whack on the side of the head...all about creative thinking and these days we need all the MacGuyvers (I think I am making the right comparison, I hope) that we can get...

[link to courses.washington.edu]

I mention this because all of us are going to need every ounce of creativity and innovation we can muster, and think outside of the box, to quote that now rather trite cliche....

I especially like page 52 discussion on what is life?

It’s not that long, a good read with lots of funny pictures.....

Hope to start a spark in our young whippersnappers...Snuf, Pillar, yes you...but it’s good for all ages
CC, Ik you get to see this with little man everyday....you and I discussed it before..

I mean I hope you all apply some different thinking in your respective fields or perhaps mention it to someone else...let’s face it they have been throwing the kitchen sink at this thing looking for solutions...
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Man smoking a cigar next to woman “If you were my husband, sir, I’d give you a dose of poison!”

The man looked at her. “If I were your husband,” said he, “I’d take it!” Churchill
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Includes a nasty picture of covid toe


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Includes a nasty picture of covid toe


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:nopenope:
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 Quoting: The Gent

I see you are also a fan of Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill and Terry Thomas!
 Quoting: Lago


Very much so....
 Quoting: The Gent

I know that this is, of course, a conspiracy site, but it does get pretty bleak at times. What are your thoughts on how this will play out in the UK and USA?
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The US is a completely different, but from a UK point of view, I am going to go against the general school of thought with many regulars on this thread, I'm not saying I'm right or the posters here are wrong. I feel some encouragement with so many scientific companies announcing success with vaccines, I know we are in early days, but I think we are on the right track.

I truly believe we will over come this virus, yes there will be some tough days ahead, but I really don't see this virus as a end of civilisation event.

The economy is not DOA, it's going to take years to get back on track, but it will slowly grow over the coming years.

I see every day folk who are unwell with this virus in my line of work, the sick children and mentally disabled are particularly hard to witness, but life goes on, we go on, we have to keep going, that's the only way to move forward.

Not arguing with anyone, just my current take on the situation.

Best regards to all on this thread.....
calm..
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Good news on the ICU resources front.



I am not saying being this sick is good news, only that this will free up some beds and maybe stop the system from collapsing.
 Quoting: TreeBark


In India, they are handing out oxygen bottles to people for free... [link to gulfnews.com (secure)]
Happening in Italy as well.. [link to www.businessinsider.com (secure)]

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Good news on the ICU resources front.



I am not saying being this sick is good news, only that this will free up some beds and maybe stop the system from collapsing.
 Quoting: TreeBark


In India, they are handing out oxygen bottles to people for free... [link to gulfnews.com (secure)]
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I wonder why that isn't happening in the US? Some people just need supplemental oxygen. Some people already get oxygen delivery to their house. Maybe it's due to the speed some people switch from that to the ICU.
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I see you are also a fan of Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill and Terry Thomas!
 Quoting: Lago


Very much so....
 Quoting: The Gent


I’m back...I will post about my little outing later..
Riff-sincere positive energy to you that you didn’t pick up the asshole freeloader virus...it doesn’t sound like you were around him long enough to get you sick..FYI Comet is running Star Trek movies all this weekend, I think...
Interesting to me all this talk of Churchill, ‘cause his birthday is November 30th..same as my mother, RIP....Churchill was amazing, one they should teach more over here in high school...

Wanted to post this before I forget
In your spare time, consider at least skimming this pdf
It’s called a whack on the side of the head...all about creative thinking and these days we need all the MacGuyvers (I think I am making the right comparison, I hope) that we can get...

[link to courses.washington.edu]

I mention this because all of us are going to need every ounce of creativity and innovation we can muster, and think outside of the box, to quote that now rather trite cliche....

I especially like page 52 discussion on what is life?

It’s not that long, a good read with lots of funny pictures.....

Hope to start a spark in our young whippersnappers...Snuf, Pillar, yes you...but it’s good for all ages
CC, Ik you get to see this with little man everyday....you and I discussed it before..

I mean I hope you all apply some different thinking in your respective fields or perhaps mention it to someone else...let’s face it they have been throwing the kitchen sink at this thing looking for solutions...
 Quoting: Bastetcat

Man smoking a cigar next to woman “If you were my husband, sir, I’d give you a dose of poison!”

The man looked at her. “If I were your husband,” said he, “I’d take it!” Churchill
 Quoting: Lago


Bessie Braddock MP to Churchill-"Sir, you are very drunk"

Churchill to Bessie-" Madam, you are very ugly, but I shall be sober in the morning".
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Well, at least we agree on Vitamin D3. In retrospect with hindsight (always handy), the mostly worldwide lock-down may have been overkill. However, we saw China's reaction and we did not know what we were dealing with at all! Now, at least we know a little bit about this Virus, and have a more measured approach. I do disagree strongly that this is just "a bad flu". I personally know of healthy men in their 30's, 40's, and 50's with no co-morbidities, die of this disease. The one common factor was they ignored it, trying to keep working until they could not breath, and then it was too late. In Mexico, where the health system has virtually collapsed, the death rate among people who catch the virus, is 9.7%! Think about that. If the US health system collapsed, that would be 1.2 million deaths.. [link to coronavirus.jhu.edu (secure)]
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I take 4000iu VIT-D3 every day, I also place a drop of Thieves Oil in my face mask everytime I change the mask, which can be up to twenty times plus a day.....
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I see you are also a fan of Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill and Terry Thomas!
 Quoting: Lago


Very much so....
 Quoting: The Gent

I know that this is, of course, a conspiracy site, but it does get pretty bleak at times. What are your thoughts on how this will play out in the UK and USA?
 Quoting: Lago


The US is a completely different, but from a UK point of view, I am going to go against the general school of thought with many regulars on this thread, I'm not saying I'm right or the posters here are wrong. I feel some encouragement with so many scientific companies announcing success with vaccines, I know we are in early days, but I think we are on the right track.

I truly believe we will over come this virus, yes there will be some tough days ahead, but I really don't see this virus as a end of civilisation event.

The economy is not DOA, it's going to take years to get back on track, but it will slowly grow over the coming years.

I see every day folk who are unwell with this virus in my line of work, the sick children and mentally disabled are particularly hard to witness, but life goes on, we go on, we have to keep going, that's the only way to move forward.

Not arguing with anyone, just my current take on the situation.

Best regards to all on this thread.....
calm..
 Quoting: The Gent


Well said. KBO. "keep buggering on" Churchill. Ditto USA as long we get somebody at the top ...well, you know what I mean.

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Very much so....
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I know that this is, of course, a conspiracy site, but it does get pretty bleak at times. What are your thoughts on how this will play out in the UK and USA?
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The US is a completely different, but from a UK point of view, I am going to go against the general school of thought with many regulars on this thread, I'm not saying I'm right or the posters here are wrong. I feel some encouragement with so many scientific companies announcing success with vaccines, I know we are in early days, but I think we are on the right track.

I truly believe we will over come this virus, yes there will be some tough days ahead, but I really don't see this virus as a end of civilisation event.

The economy is not DOA, it's going to take years to get back on track, but it will slowly grow over the coming years.

I see every day folk who are unwell with this virus in my line of work, the sick children and mentally disabled are particularly hard to witness, but life goes on, we go on, we have to keep going, that's the only way to move forward.

Not arguing with anyone, just my current take on the situation.

Best regards to all on this thread.....
calm..
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KBO. "keep buggering on" Churchill
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KBO is all we can doukCanadian F
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I am all for muddling through. But we are all capable because our stomachs aren’t grumbling, we aren’t dehydrated, and our homes are nice & toasty.

Dyin’s friend that wasn’t allowed to even take two weeks off for covid19..... or the kids that keep getting sent to daycare with fever meds to mask it.....

These are cracks that no one wants to see.

So sure we are muddling through, but what about the mom that felt helpless and shot her kids & then herself, this week.

Compassion is a tool to consider when discussing that we need to keep going..... exactly who is it that needs to keep going and why?





GLP