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BREAKING....

UK records LOWEST Death Rate in SIX MONTHS ONLY 10 deaths and infections drop 27% to just 3423 cases -

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BREAKING....

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Jim: all the vaccinated people are now mutation factories.
You need to look into Marek's disease in Chickens, and how it was treated with a non-sterilising 'vaccine'.
You simply cant treat a pandemic like this with a vaccine alone.
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This was posted all over GLP on Jan 13th. NOW the British Medical Journal raises concerns?! NOW?!

[link to www.bmj.com (secure)]
Concerns over integrity of mRNA molecules in some covid-19 vaccines

Findings highlight the fragilities of the manufacturing process, but companies aren't willing to release information

Documents leaked from the European Medicines Agency (EMA) following a cyber attack in December show that some early commercial batches of Pfizer-BioNTech’s covid-19 vaccine had lower than expected
levels of intact mRNA molecules.
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Specifically, EMA had major concerns over unexpectedly low quantities (around 55%) of intact mRNA in batches of the vaccine developed for commercial production.
However, it’s unclear how the agency’s concerns were satisfied, writes Tinari.
Pfizer also declined to comment

NB: what the BMJ will not say, which WAS in the documents, was that
they don't know where the mRNA goes, or what the mal-formed bits do.


The original link for the leaked files (password "Moses")
NB: replace "no" with media fire dot com below.

www. no /file/yl7va977rpmjbc0/-rGv.zip/file
--not sure if link still active, but it's 30Mb or so, zipped.

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February 9th. (WHERE IS THE EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATION??)
[link to www.ox.ac.uk (secure)]
Common asthma treatment reduces need for hospitalisation in COVID-19 patients, study suggests

Inhaled budesonide reduced the relative risk of requiring urgent care or hospitalisation by 90% in the 28-day study period.

Participants allocated the budesonide inhaler also had a quicker resolution of fever, symptoms and fewer persistent symptoms after 28 days.

The study also demonstrated that there was a reduction in persistent symptoms in those who received budesonide. [Prof. Bafadhel]: I am encouraged to see the reduction in persistent symptoms at 14 and 28 days after treatment with budesonide. Persistent symptoms after the initial COVID-19 illness have emerged as a long-term problem. Any intervention which could address this would be a major step forward.'

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[link to clinicaltrials.gov (secure)]
Prophylaxis Covid-19 in Healthcare Agents by Intensive Treatment With Ivermectin and Iota-carrageenan (Ivercar-Tuc)

NB: Ivermectin stops virus replication and transmission, so will stop mutations dead.

RESULT: The number of subjects who were diagnosed with COVID-19 in the Experimental Group (EG) was lower, only 4 of 117 (3.4%) than subjects in the Control Group (CG): 25 of 117 (21.4%) (p-Value = 0.0001).
Twenty patients had mild symptoms (Experimental group: n=4, Control Group: n=16).
Six subjects were moderate, and 3 with severe diagnostics, all of them in the CG (no Ivermectin).

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BREAKING....

UK records LOWEST Death Rate in SIX MONTHS ONLY 10 deaths and infections drop 27% to just 3423 cases -

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]

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 Quoting: Jim6152


Jim: all the vaccinated people are now mutation factories.
You need to look into Marek's disease in Chickens, and how it was treated with a non-sterilising 'vaccine'.
You simply cant treat a pandemic like this with a vaccine alone.
 Quoting: S-man



uk

Just like we cant vaccinate against small pox, and various flu viruses every year....theres no mutation factory give over.

People are getting desperate on here...the writing is on the wall. UK is gonna be back to normal shortly so peeps better deal with that on here. I cant wait to call out all those regular doomtards who got it wrong....AGAIN.
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Just like we cant vaccinate against small pox, and various flu viruses every year....theres no mutation factory give over.

People are getting desperate on here...the writing is on the wall. UK is gonna be back to normal shortly so peeps better deal with that on here. I cant wait to call out all those regular doomtards who got it wrong....AGAIN.
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Well I wouldn't use the flu shot to back up our case here considering it doesn't work, but everything else you said yeah for sure.
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BREAKING....

UK records LOWEST Death Rate in SIX MONTHS ONLY 10 deaths and infections drop 27% to just 3423 cases -

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]

uk
 Quoting: Jim6152


Jim: all the vaccinated people are now mutation factories.
You need to look into Marek's disease in Chickens, and how it was treated with a non-sterilising 'vaccine'.
You simply cant treat a pandemic like this with a vaccine alone.
 Quoting: S-man



uk

Just like we cant vaccinate against small pox, and various flu viruses every year....theres no mutation factory give over.

People are getting desperate on here...the writing is on the wall. UK is gonna be back to normal shortly so peeps better deal with that on here. I cant wait to call out all those regular doomtards who got it wrong....AGAIN.
 Quoting: Jim6152

Jim, you're wrong.
Consider the current set of mutations:- Brazil, South Africa, Kent.

All 3 places where AstraZeneca tried out their vaccines.

Sorry, but it is well known and experts will back me up.. non-sterilising vaccines simply create hurdles for the virus' mutations to clear.

e.g.:
Paul Bieniasz didn’t mince words in a sarcastic New Year’s Day statement he tweeted. If he wanted to create a new, vaccine-resisting version of the pandemic coronavirus, the Rockefeller University virologist wrote, “having developed a remarkable two-dose vaccine, [I’d] … ADMINISTER IT TO MILLIONS OF PEOPLE – BUT DELAY THE SECOND DOSE. … If we let immunity wane for a little while, say 4 to 12 weeks, we just might hit the sweet spot”—and create a virus that could foil the vaccine.

or:
www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/01/could-too-much-time-between-d​oses-drive-coronavirus-outwit-vaccines

or:
[link to www.cogconsortium.uk (secure)]
Persistent SARS-CoV-2 infection and viral evolution tracked in an immunocompromised patient

I suggest you don't know what you are talking about, Jim!

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however, BRAZIL and other nations saw a version that was closer to the version from WUHAN and do have major outbreaks with higher death rates. with out borders open,we will see those variants spread more soon. there are several of those variants already in both PA and NYS.
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@JAZZz50, at 2020 Brazil faced the original Italian mutation, which is the closest to the December Wuhan mutation, there are very serious local studies showing that there was such a mutation circulating as early as September 2019.
Here now we have the P1 mutation, which spreads very quickly, but the main problem is that Brazil is a mess, our people are unable to act collectively, and our leaders live to rob the people.
Any people with a minimum of collective discipline would be able to survive this chaos, but this is not the case in Brazil, and it never will be.
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BREAKING....

UK records LOWEST Death Rate in SIX MONTHS ONLY 10 deaths and infections drop 27% to just 3423 cases -

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]

uk
 Quoting: Jim6152


Jim: all the vaccinated people are now mutation factories.
You need to look into Marek's disease in Chickens, and how it was treated with a non-sterilising 'vaccine'.
You simply cant treat a pandemic like this with a vaccine alone.
 Quoting: S-man



uk

Just like we cant vaccinate against small pox, and various flu viruses every year....theres no mutation factory give over.

People are getting desperate on here...the writing is on the wall. UK is gonna be back to normal shortly so peeps better deal with that on here. I cant wait to call out all those regular doomtards who got it wrong....AGAIN.
 Quoting: Jim6152

Jim, you're wrong.
Consider the current set of mutations:- Brazil, South Africa, Kent.

All 3 places where AstraZeneca tried out their vaccines.

Sorry, but it is well known and experts will back me up.. non-sterilising vaccines simply create hurdles for the virus' mutations to clear.

e.g.:
Paul Bieniasz didn’t mince words in a sarcastic New Year’s Day statement he tweeted. If he wanted to create a new, vaccine-resisting version of the pandemic coronavirus, the Rockefeller University virologist wrote, “having developed a remarkable two-dose vaccine, [I’d] … ADMINISTER IT TO MILLIONS OF PEOPLE – BUT DELAY THE SECOND DOSE. … If we let immunity wane for a little while, say 4 to 12 weeks, we just might hit the sweet spot”—and create a virus that could foil the vaccine.

or:
www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/01/could-too-much-time-between-d​oses-drive-coronavirus-outwit-vaccines

or:
[link to www.cogconsortium.uk (secure)]
Persistent SARS-CoV-2 infection and viral evolution tracked in an immunocompromised patient

I suggest you don't know what you are talking about, Jim!
 Quoting: S-man


Yet nothing you have claimed is being played out in the ground here in the UK with our world leading genome capabilities and having major vaccine resources Oxford have already said any mutations that come along wont be an issue they will just adjust the vaccines.

Also the current vaccines work against all the variants with the Kent Variant declared this week by PHE as being no worse than the original virus.

You can keep quoting random universities...they are 10 a penny and we've seen it here...its their opinion and loads have already got it wrong.

The Kent variant was around in Sep 2020....yet it hasn't more deadly than the original varient and the vaccines work against it.

Case closed.
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UK is an island. basically cut off from EU. so much easier to stop the virus or variants from getting in. my understanding is they did work hard to keep infected out.how much travel restrictions within the country did they have? how is their contact tracing?

so yes they may b doing good now,but it only takes 1 higher grade infected person to start an epidemic all over. call us back in a year to let us know how good the vaccines did. we would like to hear more thn.
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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UK is an island. basically cut off from EU. so much easier to stop the virus or variants from getting in. my understanding is they did work hard to keep infected out.how much travel restrictions within the country did they have? how is their contact tracing?

so yes they may b doing good now,but it only takes 1 higher grade infected person to start an epidemic all over. call us back in a year to let us know how good the vaccines did. we would like to hear more thn.
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In an updated posting on its website, the agency says fully vaccinated people can travel safely within the United States without a COVID-19 test as long as they wear a mask and social distance.

Those who are fully vaccinated don’t have to quarantine or get tested when they arrive unless their destination requires it.
 Quoting: Dosha


Aren't these the exact same requirements that have been in place since last spring?

1dunno1
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Last spring we didn't have the vaccines yet, did we? Traveling was a mixed bag. Last spring seems so long ago. HI wasn't taking visitors, quarantines were there, vaccines weren't yet happening and it was a mixed bag.

What I see from this is putting front and center those who are vaccinated for C19, with proof, and those choosing to not get the shot go to the back of the bus.

Seems like more of a loss of liberty for non vaccinated.
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In an updated posting on its website, the agency says fully vaccinated people can travel safely within the United States without a COVID-19 test as long as they wear a mask and social distance.

Those who are fully vaccinated don’t have to quarantine or get tested when they arrive unless their destination requires it.
 Quoting: Dosha


Aren't these the exact same requirements that have been in place since last spring?

1dunno1
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Yep.
 Quoting: sos


Not exactly. Vaccines had not yet started. This for the US and those who prove C19 vaccinations are free to roam and those who don't have to take other steps.

Nope, not same as last spring. As there are now 2 tiers, vaccinated and non vaccinated for C19.
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The CDC has given their "permission" for those vaccinated for C19 to travel, hallelujah/sarc

[link to pittsburgh.cbslocal.com (secure)]

In an updated posting on its website, the agency says fully vaccinated people can travel safely within the United States without a COVID-19 test as long as they wear a mask and social distance.

Those who are fully vaccinated don’t have to quarantine or get tested when they arrive unless their destination requires it.

The CDC recommends people delay travel until they’re fully vaccinated.

Who is being protected from whom? Experimental shots with unknown results/side effects for now, yet being treated as the "golden standard".
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 Quoting: Dosha


It's really the case that the vaccinated people are now the danger to those of us unvaccinateds.

[link to godlike.com (secure)]
A Video - When you have to explain WHY you can't see your vaxxed family/friends.
(shameless link to my own thread)
 Quoting: S-man


Exactly. We now for sure won't be traveling and will avoid crowds as best we can. I am hopeful that a few months down the way, if we aren't all blown to smithereens in WWIII, things will be a clearer and maybe these vaccines stopped. Probably not since it seems at least here in the US the desire is to spread as many variants to as many people as possible.
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A friend of ours stopped by for a few minutes today to tell my husband that someone in our condo complex (not my building) passed from Covid. It was a guy I didn't know, but hubs knew well, sadly....

Our friend said the guy---I'm guessing was in 60s or 70s, had uncontrollable bleeding in his body, apparently widespread--he said they thought it started in the kidneys. Family members told him it was a "weird" form of Covid--I said, do you mean a "variant" ? "Yes, that's the word they used."

He wasn't sure if there was clotting also or not.

Thoughts as to which variant with (bleeding in the kidneys) the poor guy had? Sorry I can't keep up with all threads these days to figure it out--grateful for your help.

I asked the friend to let us know if he found out.

Also, just putting this out there--has anyone seen if invermectin is effective if it is a variant version?


BTW, if I didn't mention it before, hubs tested negative for Covid when in the ER.

The primary dr called yesterday for followup and said they have no idea what caused the blood pressure spike.

PS--Cleaned vacuum cleaner filters clogged up today. No question about wearing a mask to do that, lol! Little things like keeping that clean I believe make a difference...
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Sorry for the loss of your friend Bastetcat. Hope you guys are doing better. Happy Spring to us all. Thanks too for the green!
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i believe we have the answere to what saved the US from the virus thus far-

viruses mutate. in our case the original strain that came to the US was a muated version. it had spread thru Europe and other countries and kept mutating. it was less severe and deadly than the WUHAN original in CHINA. hence, the version in the US caused less sickness and death compared to ITALY and CHINA. it also was less contagious. compromised ppl did get sick,many severly. many healthy ppl have been skipped over by THIS version. so in a sence the US got lucky compared to other nations,for lack of a better way to put it.

the lower-grade version that came to the US mutated down to b less severe and less dangerous. thus most healthy ppl could fight it off.

however, BRAZIL and other nations saw a version that was closer to the version from WUHAN and do have major outbreaks with higher death rates. with out borders open,we will see those variants spread more soon. there are several of those variants already in both PA and NYS.

worst case with this virus would b getting multiple variants. you might fight off the 1 but would b weaker to handle the next.also this virus damges internal organs and can do that slowly to even healthy ppl.

least this explains why in the US the virus did not become a wildfire like it did in other countries. this side of the US got a lower-grade mutation of the WUHAN virus and it continued to muate down to b less dangerous. the next version or wave will b considerably worse.

this not only explains what occured in the US but also how it walked over the EU and rest of the nations. some areas did see a variant that was closer to the original from WUHAN. those areas had a higher death and infection rate.

the problem the world faces is this virus can and in some areas has mutated to a mnore dangerous version as well as it did to a lower-grade version. a higher grade variant will spread out of control like a wild fire.
 Quoting: JAZZz50


These are my thoughts. You did a good job of breaking it down for analysis.
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In an updated posting on its website, the agency says fully vaccinated people can travel safely within the United States without a COVID-19 test as long as they wear a mask and social distance.

Those who are fully vaccinated don’t have to quarantine or get tested when they arrive unless their destination requires it.
 Quoting: Dosha


Aren't these the exact same requirements that have been in place since last spring?

1dunno1
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Yep.
 Quoting: sos


Not exactly. Vaccines had not yet started. This for the US and those who prove C19 vaccinations are free to roam and those who don't have to take other steps.

Nope, not same as last spring. As there are now 2 tiers, vaccinated and non vaccinated for C19.
 Quoting: Dosha


CDC is saying it doesn't matter. Nobody should be traveling as p1 grips...they completely reversed what they said.

https://imgur.com/a/PVSJYe3


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BREAKING....

UK records LOWEST Death Rate in SIX MONTHS ONLY 10 deaths and infections drop 27% to just 3423 cases -

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]

uk
 Quoting: Jim6152


Jim: all the vaccinated people are now mutation factories.
You need to look into Marek's disease in Chickens, and how it was treated with a non-sterilising 'vaccine'.
You simply cant treat a pandemic like this with a vaccine alone.
 Quoting: S-man



uk

Just like we cant vaccinate against small pox, and various flu viruses every year....theres no mutation factory give over.

People are getting desperate on here...the writing is on the wall. UK is gonna be back to normal shortly so peeps better deal with that on here. I cant wait to call out all those regular doomtards who got it wrong....AGAIN.
 Quoting: Jim6152

Jim, you're wrong.
Consider the current set of mutations:- Brazil, South Africa, Kent.

All 3 places where AstraZeneca tried out their vaccines.

Sorry, but it is well known and experts will back me up.. non-sterilising vaccines simply create hurdles for the virus' mutations to clear.

e.g.:
Paul Bieniasz didn’t mince words in a sarcastic New Year’s Day statement he tweeted. If he wanted to create a new, vaccine-resisting version of the pandemic coronavirus, the Rockefeller University virologist wrote, “having developed a remarkable two-dose vaccine, [I’d] … ADMINISTER IT TO MILLIONS OF PEOPLE – BUT DELAY THE SECOND DOSE. … If we let immunity wane for a little while, say 4 to 12 weeks, we just might hit the sweet spot”—and create a virus that could foil the vaccine.

or:
www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/01/could-too-much-time-between-d​oses-drive-coronavirus-outwit-vaccines

or:
[link to www.cogconsortium.uk (secure)]
Persistent SARS-CoV-2 infection and viral evolution tracked in an immunocompromised patient

I suggest you don't know what you are talking about, Jim!
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Truly crimes against humanity. Inexcusable.
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Aren't these the exact same requirements that have been in place since last spring?

1dunno1
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Yep.
 Quoting: sos


Not exactly. Vaccines had not yet started. This for the US and those who prove C19 vaccinations are free to roam and those who don't have to take other steps.

Nope, not same as last spring. As there are now 2 tiers, vaccinated and non vaccinated for C19.
 Quoting: Dosha


CDC is saying it doesn't matter. Nobody should be traveling as p1 grips...they completely reversed what they said.

https://imgur.com/a/PVSJYe3

 Quoting: BLARGON


I should remember that the CDC is always tweaking their baloney. Silly me.

Is there any wonder why there is so much confusion and acting out among people.

All by design...sigh
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Yep.
 Quoting: sos


Not exactly. Vaccines had not yet started. This for the US and those who prove C19 vaccinations are free to roam and those who don't have to take other steps.

Nope, not same as last spring. As there are now 2 tiers, vaccinated and non vaccinated for C19.
 Quoting: Dosha


CDC is saying it doesn't matter. Nobody should be traveling as p1 grips...they completely reversed what they said.

https://imgur.com/a/PVSJYe3

 Quoting: BLARGON


I should remember that the CDC is always tweaking their baloney. Silly me.

Is there any wonder why there is so much confusion and acting out among people.

All by design...sigh
 Quoting: Dosha



I have a more simple logical answer

CDC Doesn't believe the vaccines are going to be effective at all. Hence why mask mandates and lockdown ending pauses
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Jim: all the vaccinated people are now mutation factories.
You need to look into Marek's disease in Chickens, and how it was treated with a non-sterilising 'vaccine'.
You simply cant treat a pandemic like this with a vaccine alone.
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uk

Just like we cant vaccinate against small pox, and various flu viruses every year....theres no mutation factory give over.

People are getting desperate on here...the writing is on the wall. UK is gonna be back to normal shortly so peeps better deal with that on here. I cant wait to call out all those regular doomtards who got it wrong....AGAIN.
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Jim, you're wrong.
Consider the current set of mutations:- Brazil, South Africa, Kent.

All 3 places where AstraZeneca tried out their vaccines.

Sorry, but it is well known and experts will back me up.. non-sterilising vaccines simply create hurdles for the virus' mutations to clear.

e.g.:
Paul Bieniasz didn’t mince words in a sarcastic New Year’s Day statement he tweeted. If he wanted to create a new, vaccine-resisting version of the pandemic coronavirus, the Rockefeller University virologist wrote, “having developed a remarkable two-dose vaccine, [I’d] … ADMINISTER IT TO MILLIONS OF PEOPLE – BUT DELAY THE SECOND DOSE. … If we let immunity wane for a little while, say 4 to 12 weeks, we just might hit the sweet spot”—and create a virus that could foil the vaccine.

or:
www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/01/could-too-much-time-between-d​oses-drive-coronavirus-outwit-vaccines

or:
[link to www.cogconsortium.uk (secure)]
Persistent SARS-CoV-2 infection and viral evolution tracked in an immunocompromised patient

I suggest you don't know what you are talking about, Jim!
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Yet nothing you have claimed is being played out in the ground here in the UK with our world leading genome capabilities and having major vaccine resources Oxford have already said any mutations that come along wont be an issue they will just adjust the vaccines.

Also the current vaccines work against all the variants with the Kent Variant declared this week by PHE as being no worse than the original virus.

You can keep quoting random universities...they are 10 a penny and we've seen it here...its their opinion and loads have already got it wrong.

The Kent variant was around in Sep 2020....yet it hasn't more deadly than the original varient and the vaccines work against it.

Case closed.
 Quoting: Jim6152


Whilst I admire your optimism Jim, I think we have long way yet to go before declaring victory over this virus.

Yes the vaccine will help, but there are many other factors at play, the vaccine is the first of many steps needed to return to normal times...
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UK records only 10 deaths...TEN from Covid as the UK vaccination program gets better and better.

Am sure Rasen1 will be along any minute to finally reveal their BIG Disaster news which is now 4 months on from her original statement??
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I think her bomb is a systems breakdown,which is beginning to show, but no one is admitting.
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I suspect that Rasen1 probably extrapolated assumed data and arrived at a false conclusion. Why this was not shared so that it could be verified is beyond me.

Systems breakdown is still a possibility. Do I have any data to support that, no.
It’s a question of methods. Everybody wants results, but nobody wants to do what they have to do to get them done.
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BREAKING....

UK records LOWEST Death Rate in SIX MONTHS ONLY 10 deaths and infections drop 27% to just 3423 cases -

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]

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The UK is still in lockdown, naturally, the rates are dropping because everyone is still sat at home.

The restrictions that were lifted were tiny and even then the effects of a small reopening won't be seen for weeks.

There is only one way to know if the vaccines work and you, OPEN UP FULLY.



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In an updated posting on its website, the agency says fully vaccinated people can travel safely within the United States without a COVID-19 test as long as they wear a mask and social distance.

Those who are fully vaccinated don’t have to quarantine or get tested when they arrive unless their destination requires it.
 Quoting: Dosha


Aren't these the exact same requirements that have been in place since last spring?

1dunno1
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


Yep.
 Quoting: sos


Not exactly. Vaccines had not yet started. This for the US and those who prove C19 vaccinations are free to roam and those who don't have to take other steps.

Nope, not same as last spring. As there are now 2 tiers, vaccinated and non vaccinated for C19.
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Since last spring starting around June or so and ever since, ANY American has been able to travel ANYWHERE they want in the US for ANY reason as long as they mask up, social distance, and get a test if required by their destination.

Nothing has changed.
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UK records LOWEST Death Rate in SIX MONTHS ONLY 10 deaths and infections drop 27% to just 3423 cases -

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]

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The UK is still in lockdown, naturally, the rates are dropping because everyone is still sat at home.

The restrictions that were lifted were tiny and even then the effects of a small reopening won't be seen for weeks.

There is only one way to know if the vaccines work and you, OPEN UP FULLY.



ukrexuk
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Sat at home....LMAO!!

Mate theres people everywhere, nobody has been sat indoors since January, parks are bursting with young and old you wouldn't even think theres a lockdown.

You will all see once everything is fully open. The only people who will get sick will be the stupid BAME folk who thinks it's a big whitey conspiracy against them.

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COVID is old news now guys.

Kingzzor's Ukraine thread is racking up pages like DT's was last March.

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Well it's the vaccine and the biggest KILL SHOT in the history of mankind on now...

This will blend in nicely with WW3 actually.
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If people die from vaxx they can say they died during the war lol.
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If people die from vaxx they can say they died during the war lol.
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Cruisewuflu

That's some funny shit right there!
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You will all see once everything is fully open. The only people who will get sick will be the stupid BAME folk who thinks it's a big whitey conspiracy against them.
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Jim, maybe it'll be the vaxxed who get sick:
First, consider the prion aspect.
Note that there is NO SAFE LEVEL OF PRIONS IN THE BRAIN
Just *one* prion can cause a chain reaction leading to Parkinson's/vCJD/ALS/Dementia.
Example: vCJD in humans incubates for 2-5 years (typically) and takes about 12 months to kill. vCJD is uniformly fatal.

Whether you take the mRNA vaccines(Pfizer/Moderna), or the Adenovirus vector vaccines (JnJ/AZ), ALL the vaccines either have the spike, or get your cells to make the spike via mRNA...

Realise also that the spikes --alone-- can cross the Blood-Brain-Barrier:
[link to www.nature.com (secure)]
The S1 protein of SARS-CoV-2 crosses the blood–brain barrier in mice

Once in your brain, these things have a prion-genesis site. (Just one, that I can verify, but you can verify it too!):

Run the spike protein sequence (from here):
[link to www.uniprot.org (secure)]

through the PLAAC algorithm here:
[link to plaac.wi.mit.edu (secure)]
(you only need the Amino Acid sequence, not the header! AND remove all spaces ' '!!)

See that red bump at position 500 for the PrD line?
That's a PRION GENESIS SITE.

Now, consider what might have happened to the rhesus monkeys:

[link to www.biorxiv.org (secure)]
SARS-CoV-2 causes brain inflammation and Lewy bodies, a hallmark for Parkinson, after an asymptomatic infection in macaques.
As in humans Lewy body formation is an indication for the development of Parkinson’s disease, this data represents a warning for potential long-term neurological effects after SARS-CoV-2 infection.

So, vax and/or virus could give you Parkinson's/vCJD/ALS/Dementia/... How many boosters you want, once your innate immune system is crashed and burned?





GLP