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MarPep
(OP) User ID: 78346447 United States 01/17/2020 10:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The documented warming of the oceans and the increase in volcanic activity could mean the crust is also warming--leading to increased melting at the bottom of most glaciers/ice sheets--and an increased risk of catastrophic "slippage" of huge portions of the ice sheets into the oceans. Recurrent massive tsunamis, tremendous flooding from suddenly rising sea-levels, and sudden dramatic cooling of the atmosphere would likely result. _______________ They let me off with a warning and a couple of bullet holes. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75328508 United States 01/18/2020 12:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to heliofant.com] volcanic Winter year without a Summer 2020 Apocalypse [link to watchers.news] |
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(OP) User ID: 78346447 United States 01/18/2020 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Study confirming steady warming of oceans: [link to phys.org (secure)] "The 2015 analysis showed that the modern buoys now used to measure ocean temperatures tend to report slightly cooler temperatures than older ship-based systems, even when measuring the same part of the ocean at the same time. As buoy measurements have replaced ship measurements, this had hidden some of the real-world warming. After correcting for this "cold bias," researchers with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration concluded in the journal Science that the oceans have actually warmed 0.12 degrees Celsius (0.22 degrees Fahrenheit) per decade since 2000, nearly twice as fast as earlier estimates of 0.07 degrees Celsius per decade. This brought the rate of ocean temperature rise in line with estimates for the previous 30 years, between 1970 and 1999." Last Edited by MarPep on 01/18/2020 09:44 AM _______________ They let me off with a warning and a couple of bullet holes. |
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MarPep
(OP) User ID: 78346447 United States 01/18/2020 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mass gains in Antarctic ice sheet: "A new NASA study says that an increase in Antarctic snow accumulation that began 10,000 years ago is currently adding enough ice to the continent to outweigh the increased losses from its thinning glaciers. The research challenges the conclusions of other studies, including the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s (IPCC) 2013 report, which says that Antarctica is overall losing land ice. According to the new analysis of satellite data, the Antarctic ice sheet showed a net gain of 112 billion tons of ice a year from 1992 to 2001. That net gain slowed to 82 billion tons of ice per year between 2003 and 2008." [link to www.nasa.gov (secure)] _______________ They let me off with a warning and a couple of bullet holes. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76811228 United States 01/18/2020 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some glaciologists' thoughts on how and why all or part of the 7 million cubic miles of Antarctic ice might slip into the ocean---and why that would cause a sudden ice age. Quoting: MarPep "In 1962, John Hollin opened up speculation about how relatively small climate changes might also affect ice in Antarctica. He argued that great volumes of ice there, piled up kilometers high and pushing slowly toward the ocean, were held in place by their fringes. These edge sheets were pinned at the marginal "grounding line" where they rested on the ocean floor. A rise of sea level could float an ice sheet up off the floor, releasing the entire stupendous mass behind it to flow more rapidly into the sea.(3*) The idea was picked up by Alex Wilson, who pointed to the spectacle of a "surge." Glaciologists had long been fascinated by the way a mountain glacier might suddenly give up its usual slow creeping, to race forward at a rate of hundreds of meters a day. They figured this happened when the pressure at the bottom melted ice so that water lubricated the flow. As the ice began to move, friction melted more water and the flow accelerated. Could the ice in Antarctica become unstable in this fashion? If so, the consequences sketched by Wilson would be appalling. As the ice surged into the sea, the world's sea-coasts would flood. And that would not be the worst of humanity's problems. Immense sheets of ice would float across the southern oceans, cooling the world by reflecting sunlight. It could bring a new ice age.(4*)" [link to history.aip.org (secure)] Book of revelation indicates the earth is burned to a crisp (and then restored by God)... Probably the sun or nearby star goes supernova or has a huge Gamma ray burst! |
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MarPep
(OP) User ID: 78346447 United States 01/18/2020 10:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some glaciologists' thoughts on how and why all or part of the 7 million cubic miles of Antarctic ice might slip into the ocean---and why that would cause a sudden ice age. Quoting: MarPep "In 1962, John Hollin opened up speculation about how relatively small climate changes might also affect ice in Antarctica. He argued that great volumes of ice there, piled up kilometers high and pushing slowly toward the ocean, were held in place by their fringes. These edge sheets were pinned at the marginal "grounding line" where they rested on the ocean floor. A rise of sea level could float an ice sheet up off the floor, releasing the entire stupendous mass behind it to flow more rapidly into the sea.(3*) The idea was picked up by Alex Wilson, who pointed to the spectacle of a "surge." Glaciologists had long been fascinated by the way a mountain glacier might suddenly give up its usual slow creeping, to race forward at a rate of hundreds of meters a day. They figured this happened when the pressure at the bottom melted ice so that water lubricated the flow. As the ice began to move, friction melted more water and the flow accelerated. Could the ice in Antarctica become unstable in this fashion? If so, the consequences sketched by Wilson would be appalling. As the ice surged into the sea, the world's sea-coasts would flood. And that would not be the worst of humanity's problems. Immense sheets of ice would float across the southern oceans, cooling the world by reflecting sunlight. It could bring a new ice age.(4*)" [link to history.aip.org (secure)] Book of revelation indicates the earth is burned to a crisp (and then restored by God)... Probably the sun or nearby star goes supernova or has a huge Gamma ray burst! That burning and warming could easily be the trigger for the ice sheet collapse and subsequent ice age, too. And the end of this Age--a new Heaven and a new Earth. Last Edited by MarPep on 01/18/2020 10:18 AM _______________ They let me off with a warning and a couple of bullet holes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78347185 United States 01/18/2020 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Piers Corbyn has been telling for quite some time. [link to www.weatheraction.com] [link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)] |
beenthruthat
User ID: 78243808 United States 01/18/2020 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh good, someone else is pointing out to these folk that an Ice Age is not incompatible with so-called Global Warming.. it's happened before! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78302339 Yes , there is nothing new , under the Sun ... adding the Volcano's erupting and the effect of the Ash cloud on the Weather to the long list of other variable's that is needed for a Ice Age to happen ... it's getting more convincing that a Ice Age is probable in Our future ... People don't care how much You know ... till they know how much You care ... |
Epic Beard Guy
User ID: 76783046 United States 01/18/2020 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It sounds like more global warming bull-shit to me. The keep rewriting the scenario every time their models are proven false. Now they want us to believe that global warming is going to cause an ice age. The ice age is coming, but nothing man is doing has anything to do with it. It's just nature continuing the natural processes that have controlled our climate since millions of years before life was on this planet. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe |
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darth
User ID: 28178764 United States 01/19/2020 01:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, we can add this hypothesis to a long list of causes of major climate changes leading the the Ice Age cycle: 1. Milankovich cycles, i.e., orbital precession and changes in the elliptical orbital parameters 2. Ocean current changes 3. Changes in salinity leading to evaporation changes 4. Changes in the deep ocean conveyor belt for absorbed CO2. 5. Changes in the magnetic field leading to more cosmic ray formation of high altitude clouds 6. Changes in galactic dust clouds we pass through 7. Micro novas caused by galactic waves of energy and particles. 8. CO2 greenhouse effects. Ditto methane. Changes in cloud formation and precipitation. 9. Incidence of volcanoes spewing sulfuric acid, particulates, etc. leading to global cooling. What did I miss? There are several more hypotheses, all unproven. MY HYPOTHESIS: World weather and climate is an incredibly complex process driven by MANY of the above factors and no none has the answer. Is the Nobel Prize paid out in a lump sum or in monthly payments? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76939846 United States 01/19/2020 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Study confirming steady warming of oceans: Quoting: MarPep [link to phys.org (secure)] "The 2015 analysis showed that the modern buoys now used to measure ocean temperatures tend to report slightly cooler temperatures than older ship-based systems, even when measuring the same part of the ocean at the same time. As buoy measurements have replaced ship measurements, this had hidden some of the real-world warming. After correcting for this "cold bias," researchers with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration concluded in the journal Science that the oceans have actually warmed 0.12 degrees Celsius (0.22 degrees Fahrenheit) per decade since 2000, nearly twice as fast as earlier estimates of 0.07 degrees Celsius per decade. This brought the rate of ocean temperature rise in line with estimates for the previous 30 years, between 1970 and 1999." Please explain this “correcting for cold bias.” Sounds like they are editing facts to fit their global warming claims. . |
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Prowling Panther
User ID: 78068491 United States 01/20/2020 10:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh good, someone else is pointing out to these folk that an Ice Age is not incompatible with so-called Global Warming.. it's happened before! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78302339 We have to DO something!!!! How about we ask worldwide millionaire politicians to enslave us to fix this??? The more I know, the crazier I appear to be. "THE ONLY WAY TO DEAL WITH AN UNFREE WORLD IS TO BECOME SO ABSOLUTELY FREE THAT YOUR VERY EXISTENCE IS AN ACT OF REBELLION" -ALBERT CAMUS No brains, no pain. The Difference Between Stupidity and Genius Is That Genius Has Its Limits |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72800207 United States 01/20/2020 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh good, someone else is pointing out to these folk that an Ice Age is not incompatible with so-called Global Warming.. it's happened before! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78302339 We have to DO something!!!! How about we ask worldwide millionaire politicians to enslave us to fix this??? We have to try! |
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