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COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345

 
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How many dead in US so far from novel corona virus 2019?
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Stop trolling.
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overkill, methinks
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Coronavirus: Hong Kong government to extend school closures, and keep civil servants at home for another week, sources say

The government is expected to extend the temporary closure of schools beyond March 2, and extend work-from-home arrangements for civil servants in an effort to contain the spread of the coronavirus.

A source told the Post that Secretary for Education Kevin Yeung Yun-hung would announce the move to keep kindergarten, primary and secondary schools closed on Thursday morning.

Two sources familiar with the government’s position said the administration was also likely to keep civil servants at home for at least another week, meaning most of the government’s 176,000 staff would be out of the office until February 23, at the earliest.

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Similar advice is likely to be adopted in the private sector, where many workers have already been told to stay at home.
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What does this mean?

Los Alamos National Laboratory says R0 for coronavirus COVID-19 value is likely to be between 4.7 and 6.6!
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That would be very bad news. Very bad, indeed.
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How many dead in US so far from novel corona virus 2019?
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Deaths from "Pneumonia" are skyrocketing!
We don't know if it is actually Ncovid19 if they don't test for it.
They haven't been testing for Ncovid19 unless the patient personally traveled to China.

So, How many? could be a lot.

The outbreak is getting worse, not better. That should tell you all you need to know. It's going to do the same here(and everywhere else) as it is in China. The question is when not if.
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What does this mean?

Los Alamos National Laboratory says R0 for coronavirus COVID-19 value is likely to be between 4.7 and 6.6!
[link to www.medrxiv.org]
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From the link:

we estimated that the number of infected individuals during early epidemic double every 2.4 days, and the R0 value is likely to be between 4.7 and 6.6. We further show that quarantine and contact tracing of symptomatic individuals alone may not be effective and early, strong control measures are needed to stop transmission of the virus.



Strong control measures. Close schools. Close public buildings. Social distancing. Shelter-in-place.

That's what needs to be done with the next week, but won't happen.

Look at Hong Kong. Only 50 confirmed so far and schools are closed until March now. Gov't businesses closed for another week or 2, I don't remember.
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What does this mean?

Los Alamos National Laboratory says R0 for coronavirus COVID-19 value is likely to be between 4.7 and 6.6!
[link to www.medrxiv.org]
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From the link:

we estimated that the number of infected individuals during early epidemic double every 2.4 days, and the R0 value is likely to be between 4.7 and 6.6. We further show that quarantine and contact tracing of symptomatic individuals alone may not be effective and early, strong control measures are needed to stop transmission of the virus.



Strong control measures. Close schools. Close public buildings. Social distancing. Shelter-in-place.

That's what needs to be done with the next week, but won't happen.

Look at Hong Kong. Only 50 confirmed so far and schools are closed until March now. Gov't businesses closed for another week or 2, I don't remember.
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Very astounding fact about how many confirmed infected before a city closes it's institutions.

Thank you.
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NHC still hasn't released daily numbers. Usually at 6pm cst
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What does this mean?

Los Alamos National Laboratory says R0 for coronavirus COVID-19 value is likely to be between 4.7 and 6.6!
[link to www.medrxiv.org]
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That would be very bad news. Very bad, indeed.
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I dont think it's "Los alamos said" per se. It was a study done with Darpa and Los alamos funding.
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Seems it's a moot point. They only admit 14 infected. How long between admitted infection and death in China?
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Oh FFS. Get those people off that boat!

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Another 44 people on board a cruise ship moored off Japan's coast have tested positive for the novel coronavirus, the country's health minister said Thursday.

Health Minister Katsunobu Kato said the 44 new cases were detected from another 221 new tests

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Another 44 people on board a cruise ship moored off Japan's coast have tested positive for the novel coronavirus, the country's health minister said Thursday.

Health Minister Katsunobu Kato said the 44 new cases were detected from another 221 new tests

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Among them are 29 Japanese and 15 non-Japanese. Forty-three of the new cases were those of passengers, while one case was that of a crew member.

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You're a troll.....you really don't care you just want to dispel this as really happening because you're in denial.

The CDC just said the test kits they gave out were trash and retesting needs to happen to get a better analysis of the problem. We will find out soon enough who is infected and who's already died but YOU should follow "BNO NEWSROOM" on Twitter for details.
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BREAKING: 44 new cases of coronavirus on cruise ship near Tokyo, raising total to 218

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Here's the thing, they CANNOT sue the cruise boat for this or anything.

Shit happens.
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BREAKING: 44 new cases of coronavirus on cruise ship near Tokyo, raising total to 218

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Here's the thing, they CANNOT sue the cruise boat for this or anything.

Shit happens.
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I think this is more about survival than suing them. It appears there is a vector on that ship that is infecting people, and eventually every single one of them will get sick unless they get them off, and quarantine them somewhere else.
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The NHC daily report is almost 4 hours late. Probably more good news. /sarc
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Deaths from "Pneumonia" are skyrocketing!
We don't know if it is actually Ncovid19 if they don't test for it.
They haven't been testing for Ncovid19 unless the patient personally traveled to China.

So, How many? could be a lot.

The outbreak is getting worse, not better. That should tell you all you need to know. It's going to do the same here(and everywhere else) as it is in China. The question is when not if.
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Pretty sure that deaths from pneumonia aren't reportable in the USA. That is, they aren't sent to the CDC or other federal body.

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So, if the disease got out like it did in Switzerland, off to England with no Chinese travel, it won't be seen or tested - or anything. We're on our own here, more than ever.
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Deaths from "Pneumonia" are skyrocketing!
We don't know if it is actually Ncovid19 if they don't test for it.
They haven't been testing for Ncovid19 unless the patient personally traveled to China.

So, How many? could be a lot.

The outbreak is getting worse, not better. That should tell you all you need to know. It's going to do the same here(and everywhere else) as it is in China. The question is when not if.
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Where did you get the information that deaths from pneumoa are skyrocking? It's not a reportable disease in the USA.

Not chiding you, would seriously like to know if there is another conduit of useful information here.

It may close tomorrow.
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Oh FFS. Get those people off that boat!

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BREAKING: 44 new cases of coronavirus on cruise ship near Tokyo, raising total to 218

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It makes no sense that those people are being kept on this boat. They must be going half crazy with worry, not to mention being exposed to aerosols.

Is there some legal issue that taking them to a third party, like another country's hospital would be kidnapping or something? This is torture.
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Another 44 people on board a cruise ship moored off Japan's coast have tested positive for the novel coronavirus, the country's health minister said Thursday.

Health Minister Katsunobu Kato said the 44 new cases were detected from another 221 new tests

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Among them are 29 Japanese and 15 non-Japanese. Forty-three of the new cases were those of passengers, while one case was that of a crew member.

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20 days
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So now they're including numbers from people that weren't tested but were diagnosed clinically. That means that up until now the deaths reported were based only on patients that tested positive, not the ones that just got sick and died without being tested or that were diagnosed by clinical observation only. This would account for the discrepancy between numbers of dead reported and the activity at crematoriums that suggest a much higher number of dead. Why are they changing the way they classify the infected, sick and dead now after a more than a month of under reporting the numbers? Do they know that it's a matter of time before we have serious outbreaks outside of China and they are trying to save a bit of face? And now we have reports that people can go as much as 24 days without symptoms, while infecting family and strangers.
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So now they're including numbers from people that weren't tested but were diagnosed clinically. That means that up until now the deaths reported were based only on patients that tested positive, not the ones that just got sick and died without being tested or that were diagnosed by clinical observation only. This would account for the discrepancy between numbers of dead reported and the activity at crematoriums that suggest a much higher number of dead. Why are they changing the way they classify the infected, sick and dead now after a more than a month of under reporting the numbers? Do they know that it's a matter of time before we have serious outbreaks outside of China and they are trying to save a bit of face? And now we have reports that people can go as much as 24 days without symptoms, while infecting family and strangers.
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this is the reason they are giving

Now the ability to detect viral nucleic acid is constantly improving, but the accuracy of different reagents is different. Not all patients can detect nucleic acid positive, so there are a lot of clinical symptoms in the history of epidemiology and contact history. It ’s also like, but patients whose nucleic acid has not been confirmed are now listed as suspected cases. I suggest that such patients in Wuhan should be classified as clinically diagnosed cases because the positive rate of nucleic acid for confirmed patients is only 30. % ~ 50%, so it is necessary to set the level of clinical diagnosis.


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That’s what I’m saying

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