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Canadian Diamond Princess Passengers Update

All is not well as local politicians were blindsided by federal gov’t decision. This is an example of how to not communicate. Of course, none of this may come to pass...by the time the Canadian gov’t gets its act in gear, the passengers will be released from quarantine in Japan anyway.

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Canadian Diamond Princess Passengers Update

All is not well as local politicians were blindsided by federal gov’t decision. This is an example of how to not communicate. Of course, none of this may come to pass...by the time the Canadian gov’t gets its act in gear, the passengers will be released from quarantine in Japan anyway.

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The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. Not surprising. I wonder why they aren't using military bases like the US?
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Details of two new cases in Taiwan...

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But, no community transmission in Taiwan YET...

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today's martenson video. long one today 30+ minutes. but worth watching if you get a moment.

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Canadian Diamond Princess Passengers Update

All is not well as local politicians were blindsided by federal gov’t decision. This is an example of how to not communicate. Of course, none of this may come to pass...by the time the Canadian gov’t gets its act in gear, the passengers will be released from quarantine in Japan anyway.

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 Quoting: Woodenboat


The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. Not surprising. I wonder why they aren't using military bases like the US?
 Quoting: NawtyBits


Canadian Forces Base Trenton is full of Wuhan evacuees, but we have lots of other bases, so I’m not sure why they can’t house the evacuees someplace else. The rooms at NavCan are much posher than any barracks, so maybe that’s why.

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Tucker just played a clip of a woman flown in Japan

She claims she and her husband lied about their results, they didn’t have them yet and she figured no news is good news

Did anyone see that?

She was actually chuckling I think
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I just chatted with a good friend of mine who lives in Taiwan. He reports everything is nearly normal, other than the fact that schools are still shut down for another 2 weeks and surgical masks are sold out everywhere.
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Tucker just played a clip of a woman flown in Japan

She claims she and her husband lied about their results, they didn’t have them yet and she figured no news is good news

Did anyone see that?

She was actually chuckling I think
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yeah.....she's been posting on FB for a while. stupid woman
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I just chatted with a good friend of mine who lives in Taiwan. He reports everything is nearly normal, other than the fact that schools are still shut down for another 2 weeks and surgical masks are sold out everywhere.
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So, like Canada, US, except I can still find masks.

Thanks for the update.
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I just chatted with a good friend of mine who lives in Taiwan. He reports everything is nearly normal, other than the fact that schools are still shut down for another 2 weeks and surgical masks are sold out everywhere.
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So, like Canada, US, except I can still find masks.

Thanks for the update.
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He’s actually quite pleased with the swift reaction of the Taiwanese gov’t. Even trusts them more than the Canadian gov’t (he’s an expat). Speaking of expats, he is worried that a large cohort of Taiwanese expats from Mainland China are soon going to flood the job market in Taiwan with the way the Chinese economy is shutting down.
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All people on board the #DiamondPrincess cruise ship have had their samples collected for #COVID19 detection. Starting Feb 19, non-infected people will start to leave the ship and the ship is expected to be emptied by Feb 21.

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Add 13 to the US. Friend posted this from Nebraska news
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Thanks for the great thread!

One thing not mentioned, regarding sanitation.

A Bleach bottle claims the Sodium hypochlorite inside will kill 98% of all organisms it touches.

It is that 2% that it does not kill, that is the problem.

Micro fauna and flora are highly competitive, and vie for the same resources, in numbers beyond billion and trillions.

Wiping out all the competition opens up all that prospective habitat for stronger, more virulent pathogens to completely take over.

We need the good and bad micro-organisms to balance their respective roles.

So... constantly over-sterilizing has a down side.

Good old soap and hot water alone kills lots of yucky crud, yet in the long run gives a better chance for survival to competing organisms, compared to drowning everything in Lysol, bleach, and hand sanitizer.

Common sense... don't panic. Think things through!
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Did not post. Hold on. Will try and copy news link. If already posted. Sorry
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Thank you for all the updates. Good job.
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Here. 13 more in US from cruise ship
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Add 13 to the US. Friend posted this from Nebraska news
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link doesn't work.
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Here. 13 more in US from cruise ship
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not yet....try again...cool2
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Here. 13 more in US from cruise ship
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not yet....try again...cool2
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This story? They are going to Nebraska from the cruise ship.

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I wonder how many people have been on that plane, subsequently.
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I'd be more concerned over the number of cases like this one from Jan. 28, from before they knew you didn't have to have symptoms to transmit it..

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All those people, the staff, the inter-continental plane, everyone contacting any of those three afterwards..
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Quick question - is this Dr. Paul Cottrell reputable? I keep seeing his vids popup, this is the newest one. Does anyone know?

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Quick question - is this Dr. Paul Cottrell reputable? I keep seeing his vids popup, this is the newest one. Does anyone know?


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I don't know. He's not a medical doctor, he has PhD in something or other, not medicine related, I think.

I watched prt of one of his videos and had to stop.

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Quick question - is this Dr. Paul Cottrell reputable? I keep seeing his vids popup, this is the newest one. Does anyone know?

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He is talking about a text between Rod Rose's sister who runs this OP (she is head of CDC infectious yadada).
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Retweeted
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We (@cmyeaton
, Evan Ray, and I) updated our analysis about ILI and #COVID19.

Bottom line: we are not seeing much evidence current that trends in influenza-like illness in the US are being driven by #COVID19.

We will keep looking and updating weekly.

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Chart at twitter link.



The study:
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It's a PDF so I can't cut and paste easily. It's a very short read, but essentially, as the tweet above states, they are not seeing much evidence of underlying COVID infections in the US.
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Read between the lines.

Not seeing MUCH is different than not seeing any. They are in fact finding viruses that are not identified by their standard test kit - which does not test for COVID19. On top of this, 6% of COVID19 infected patients in China also test positive for other viruses like influenza a and b.
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Thread: "Coronavirus Roughly 20 Times Deadlier Than Seasonal Flu"
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bump to catch up later
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Vic Chic!!!

Where the hell ya bin????


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In the dead of winter

Still waiting for China to tell the truth


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Some hope on the horizon? If this works it could be a game changer~

I have a thread on this but not gaining any traction yet.



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Remdesivir has already been used to treat a Seattle man infected with a different coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2. Although they can't say for sure that the medication worked, his condition improved one day after receiving the intravenous drug.
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Some hope on the horizon? If this works it could be a game changer~

I have a thread on this but not gaining any traction yet.



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Remdesivir has already been used to treat a Seattle man infected with a different coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2. Although they can't say for sure that the medication worked, his condition improved one day after receiving the intravenous drug.
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Too soon to tell, but there are several atni-virals they are using that appear to be helping.

So, yes, some good news on the horizon. But then I read that some large percentage of drugs 80-90%(?) are made in china, so that pipeline might dry up quickly if no one can go to work.
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Sorry gang. Tried to copy text even... No go.
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