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COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345

 
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So what can we do with the increasingly important situation of virus protection?

Medical alcohol is most commonly used and is available for general occasions

The most common virus killer is medical alcohol.

According to the "Diagnosis and Treatment of Pneumonia Caused by a New Coronavirus (Trial Version 3)", 75% alcohol can effectively inactivate the virus. Therefore, under the general requirements of killing, such as ordinary daily necessities, medical alcohol can be used for disinfection. It is best to buy commercial medical alcohol directly, and it is difficult to master the concentration.

Note that white wine cannot be used as a disinfectant, let alone bathing!
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Sacramento County Department of health confirm first case of coronavirus

The Sacramento County resident returned from China on Feb. 2.

The Sacramento County resident recently traveled from China, the epicenter of the outbreak, and returned on Feb. 2. Upon arrival, the individual self-quarantined as a precautionary measure. The person began exhibiting mild symptoms during their quarantine period and after consulting with the individual's doctor, the Sacramento County Public Health coordinated testing with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention [CDC] and the California Department of Public Health [CDPH]. A clinical specimen was collected from the individual and sent to CDC where laboratory testing confirmed the infection, according to Sacramento County Public Health.

The resident is not showing any symptoms at this time, Sacramento County Public Health said. They will remain home for mandatory isolation until cleared by Sacramento County Public Health.



Sounds like this person did everything right. Kudos.
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Awesome. A 3rd airport I was in during my recent travels (others were Honolulu and LAX twice, both which are quarantine airport locations). Was in the Sac Airport right on the 2nd.
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BREAKING: Italy reports first death from coronavirus

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The patient was a 77-year-old man in Monselice in northern Italy

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Don't worry. I'm sure there are now passengers from China passing through or visiting. All is well.
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Coronavirus: window of containment 'narrowing' after Iran deaths, WHO warns

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I love Mackay's way of tell people that a shit storm is coming, without actually telling people a shit storm is coming.
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It doesn't remain viable for 20 days. Nope. 24 to 72h if out of the sun and not too hot. And then, there *may* be enough remaining to cause an new infection in a human.
Tranmission rate isn't off the scale. The scale goes a lot higher than this virus reaches.

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NEW: Italy reports another case of coronavirus, 17 new cases so far today

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Iran reported two #COVID19 deaths on Wed. Very(!) rough back-of-the-envelope: assuming CFR~2%, would suggest ~100 cases two weeks earlier. Assuming R is around 2 and serial interval a week, could mean few hundred community cases by now. So plausible we're already seeing exports.

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Japan's #COVID19 case count (this does not include the cruise ship cases) now stands at 105. [link to mhlw.go.jp (secure)]

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Looks like Iran's lighting up. 18 confirmed cases, 4 deaths. #COVID19

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Advising AGAINST steriods for treatment so far.
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Yes, somewhere far back in the thread I had posted the link to the Lancet article where the research showed that corticosteroids only worsened the patient’s condition.
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I do remember that. I changed my home treatment plan based on your post.
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I’m not exactly sure what that is going to mean for asthmatics that contract CoVid...those that rely upon steroid inhalers...that includes my daughter. Very scary.
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I use advair. In theory it stays only in the lung tissue and is not systemic. It will not hurt your immunity the way taking prednisone pills will. Keep using it to reduce inflammation. Massive doses of vitamin C too.
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Don't worry. I'm sure there are now passengers from China passing through or visiting. All is well.
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I lived on Maui from '91 - '02 and the doctors on Maui and pretty much all of Hawaii were bad enough that the saying was

"When in pain get on a plane"


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Ian Mackay commenting on this article:

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Billionaire investor Hamish Douglass says he is confident the coronavirus outbreak will not develop into a global pandemic that will roil the global economy, but has warned that the probability of a black swan event such as a cyber attack, terrorist attack or pandemic is increasing.

Mackay's comment:

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Pandemic dodged, but black swan looms
-wow. Can we all revisit this comment in 6mths?
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Not sure I'd discount flu positives as being negative for SARS-CoV-2 at this early stage of learning & discovery.

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Good to see pavements being sprayed with magic juice in South Korea. I think there was a recent high impact journal article about the high risk of disease tranmission from people licking concrete paving stones.. .

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Good to see pavements being sprayed with magic juice in South Korea. I think there was a recent high impact journal article about the high risk of disease tranmission from people licking concrete paving stones.. .

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Pavements are disinfected because people spit.
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Pavements are disinfected because people spit.
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And then we lick the pavement. No, I get that.
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What do you mean? Do you actually have a phd? High alcohol % can kill viruses. COVID-19 lives on surfaces for hours if not days on surfaces. They should do what they can to stop contagion.

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No. I know nothing. Please educate me.
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Pavements are disinfected because people spit.
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And then we lick the pavement. No, I get that.
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What do you mean? Do you actually have a phd? High alcohol % can kill viruses. COVID-19 lives on surfaces for hours if not days on surfaces. They should do what they can to stop contagion.

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No. I know nothing. Please educate me.
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Health security theater
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And then we lick the pavement. No, I get that.
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What do you mean? Do you actually have a phd? High alcohol % can kill viruses. COVID-19 lives on surfaces for hours if not days on surfaces. They should do what they can to stop contagion.

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No. I know nothing. Please educate me.
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I'm surprised they're not scanning the road for fever
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Sarcastic Ian makes me laugh.
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BREAKING: Italy has reported its first #coronavirus death. Earleir, the Italian officials ordered mass closures including public buildings, restaurants and coffee shops in Lombardy region, Northern Italy after COVID19 cases quadrupled. (AP Wire)

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10 Italian towns in lockdown over coronavirus fears


Authorities in northern Italy on Friday ordered the closure of schools, bars and other public spaces in 10 towns following a flurry of new coronavirus cases.

Five doctors and 10 other people tested positive for the virus in Lombardy, after apparently frequenting the same bar and group of friends,
with two other cases in Veneto, authorities said at a press conference.

Over 50,000 people have been asked to stay at home in the areas concerned, while all public activities such as carnival celebrations, church masses and sporting events have been banned for up to a week.

Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte said "everything is under control", and stressed the government was maintaining "an extremely high level of precaution".
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10 Italian towns in lockdown over coronavirus fears


Authorities in northern Italy on Friday ordered the closure of schools, bars and other public spaces in 10 towns following a flurry of new coronavirus cases.

Five doctors and 10 other people tested positive for the virus in Lombardy, after apparently frequenting the same bar and group of friends,
with two other cases in Veneto, authorities said at a press conference.

Over 50,000 people have been asked to stay at home in the areas concerned, while all public activities such as carnival celebrations, church masses and sporting events have been banned for up to a week.

Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte said "everything is under control", and stressed the government was maintaining "an extremely high level of precaution".
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5 Doctors???!!! Pandemic declaration incoming.
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So I would imagine that will be our model in the US
the nice way: close down schools, public spaces, ask people to stay away-- that will be our cue to hunker down if not before --then the Feds will close a city-then the 9th district court will suspend that--then it's too late (already too late)
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I do remember that. I changed my home treatment plan based on your post.
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I’m not exactly sure what that is going to mean for asthmatics that contract CoVid...those that rely upon steroid inhalers...that includes my daughter. Very scary.
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I am one of those people. My asthma has improved over the past three years with my dietary improvements and exercise, and I've been working on weaning off those steroids.

Never did I imagine that it was in preparation for this.

I used to take the highest dose of Advair, 500/50 twice daily. I'm down to 100/50, once every two days. Looks like it's time to embrace the uncomfortable wheezing and finish weaning off.

And I'm still getting over a nasty chest cold too.

You may have just saved my life. I'll let you know when it's all said and done, eh? Thanks for linking me to this info.
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I've had good results using the colloidal silver in the nebulizer for asthma. No side effects, works as good as the albuterol inhaler, too.

I use the 30 ppm in the nebulizer. I do three deep breaths and hold each breath. Then I turn off the nebulizer to keep it from nebulizing my silver away. Then I do two or three more rounds of the three deep breaths. I follow up with a peppermint because it really does help clear lung congestion. I use the Yum Earth brand on Amazon, organic and no dyes. Look for best price.

The silver is ant-inflammatory as well as anti-fungal, anti-viral, and anti-bacterial. The anti-inflammatory part must be why it works for the asthma. It will help with bronchitis and flu and colds, too.

If you don't have a nebulizer, get a cheap squeeze bottle that has been rinsed, suck the silver up into it, and inhale. But the nebulizer is FANTASTIC for this. It would help that nasty chest cold. I have found to continue the silver for at least two days after symptoms of colds/flu/ear infection/sore throat have ended. Put the silver where the problem is. Don't drink it, it's a heavy metal. If you have digestive tract stuff, I would drink it then, short term and follow up with probiotics at night. Sovereign Silver has info about the silver, the history of its use. If it freezes in shipping, that ruins it. Don't buy any with additives, the label should say water and silver.

I think for the Wuflu, it will take re-thinking how best to use the silver....
Best wishes!
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I put some in my ultrasonic humidifier with distilled water. Keeps it and me clean while I sleep.
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U.S. CDC issues low-level travel advisory for Japan
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In the United States, the CDC said in a note on its website that it had put Japan at “Watch Level 1,” the least serious of a three-level travel advisory scale. It said that while it didn’t recommend postponing or canceling trips to Japan because of the virus, travelers should take precautions including “avoiding contact with sick people” and rigorous handwashing.

In the latest in a series of sports events to be curtailed or canceled, a women’s marathon in the central Japanese city of Nagoya set for March 8 will be limited to elite runners only, while the Nagoya City Marathon scheduled for the same day has been canceled, organizers said.

Both the Tokyo Marathon, which will be limited to elite runners, and the Nagoya race are Olympic qualifying events for Japanese marathon runners, deepening concern about whether the Summer Games set to start on July 24 in the capital will go on as planned.
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More details on situation in Italy...

Coronavirus: 16 new cases in Italy


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(ANSA) - Rome, February 21

...The first case is a man, 38, who is believed to have got the virus after dining with a friend who had come back from China.
The other two initially infected people are the 38-year-old's wife, a pregnant teacher on maternity leave, and a third person who went to hospital suffering symptoms of pneumonia after doing sport with the 38-year-old.
They are members of the same running club.
The teacher had not been in contact with children.
Three others are elderly clients of a bar Codogno, near Lodi, owned by the father of the man who did sport with the 38-year-old, sources said. The three customers never came into direct contact with the 38-year-old, according to the sources.
Lombardy Welfare Councillor Giulio Gallera said that the eight other cases in the region included "five health personnel, nurses and doctors from Codogno hospital, and three patients"...

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Well, if the virus needed another way to spread quickly, it just found another opportunity...

Coronavirus claims two more lives in Iran:
As people cast ballots to elect a new parliament, two more Iranians die from coronavirus, bringing death toll to four.


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What is the average death from the flu in the usa?
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I have been a strong proponent of preparedness for many, many years. I just want to advise people of one thing....

STFU about your preps. Period. If TSHTF, there WILL come a point where preppers become hoarders, and the government will come for your stuff...for the greater good. Not to mention desperate people, even close friends, do desperate things.

Just do your thing and hush about it.

Put yourself in a position to help people, but the people you choose, not who the gov't chooses.
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The gubberment lost the right of 'greater good' as an excuse.
As they havent stopped airtravel already they are responsible for the spread, and their inactions in general demonstrates that they are complicit.

As always their priority is profit - even to the point where they'll watch world economies flatline.

And as always, whilst thier mouths are open they are lying. The face or country of the liar is not really important as they are all the same.
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Colloidal silver kills all viruses and bacterial infections.
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I thought there was supposed to be a link on claims?
Bacteria maybe, but who told you it works on virus?
Holy shit, that escalated quickly!!!!

Coronavirus: Ukraine protesters attack buses carrying China evacuees


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clappa
Remember a few years back when they were saying it was "unkind" to talk about what was going to happen to US? (Obama days) and now its them. Obama/biden dems all made ukraine deals for the globys! They believed it!
So suffice to say it sounds like the CDC knows the spread of the virus is much worse than they're telling us and they're just trying to get ahead of it if it eventually comes out. They hope it doesn't get out to the public at large and they're doing everything they can to censor as much info as possible. But if word does get out to the public, they can say "well, we tried to warn people that public places might have to be closed down."

They're going to lie as much as they can as long as they can until they can't.
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That is standard operating procedure
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