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miabelieves
User ID: 77874365 United States 02/24/2020 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 Friday they were saying "window of opportunity". Today all is well, no pandemic but could turn it to one but all is well but we are calling everyone to prepare. I bet he said prepare 6 times in a minute. Never once brought up a window It's like read between the lines. Hold on to your undies, it's gonna be a hell of a ride |
NawtyBits
(OP) User ID: 78033304 United States 02/24/2020 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 It's more than obvious that the numbers coming out of China are bogus and the international medical "authorities" are incompetent. How did Iran and Italy go from zero cases to multiple dead overnight? Now that it's spreading outside of the grip of Chinese censorship, we should get a more realistic picture of how this disease works. It's not looking good. Quoting: KeepingItReal I think that health departments were relying on info provided out of China and by the WHO to decide on the threat level. These health people knew the info was hinky, but the the logic was, at least we have something we can work with to plan. Now we are seeing a truer picture in Italy and South Korea, not to mention Japan and Hong Kong. Now that we have outbreaks in more open countries, we will get a much picture of how this virus will affect the rest of the world. And this picture isn't pretty. Oh, and hubris. Our CDC has only recently appeared humble in it's dealings about COVID. I can't overstate the fact that most health authorities at all levels are not medical professionals. If they ever worked with patients it was a long time ago. They fell into administrative positions and don't understand what happens on the front lines. They are mostly political appointees working for some political agenda. In a word, they are incompetent. I feel bad for the medical professionals on the front lines. Politics is certainly a HUGE part of it, indeed. The CDC has to be very careful on it's message, as there will come a point where some advocate group will start accusing the CDC of being racist or discriminating against the poor. ("How can someone on welfare afford 2 weeks of stored food, when they can barely eat now?" kind of crap.) So they will tread lightly. WWJBD-What Would Jimmy Buffett Do "If it's wet and not yours, don't touch it." Oregon H1N1 Summit speaker |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78518536 United States 02/24/2020 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 WHO made a dreadful error in refusing to declare the pandemic. It was expected by millions. Now people will start to panic - because they had trusted the WHO and they just fell through the ice into the water. The stock markets of the world are reacting, and people will bug out if they can. Still waiting to wake up from this nightmare... although when it's clear to me there won't be any wake up, it's not as bad as the last time.... Too bad we can't trust our officialdom to do ANYTHING right.... from the too-short incubations after we knew 14 days was at least 10 days too little, to (before that) the testing of fevers on the plane passengers, when we knew that could be overcome with drugs or even after we knew it was transmissible before symptoms to their ignoring the countless thousands from infected areas coming here (USA) via third countries, such as all over Europe.... to just everything. They've done literally everything wrong. We knew weeks ago that only xrays would detect this, and the tests didn't work. The Chinese told us. Have we moved on? Do we even test locals? No no no no and no. It's all been dumbed down over decades. We knew it already during the AIDS epidemic, but we lucked out on its inability to spread. Now we're in for it, big time. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78318082 United States 02/24/2020 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 Possibly 50 deaths in Qom Iran alone. [link to www.bbc.com (secure)] |
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miabelieves
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Serenity_Seeker
User ID: 22589844 United States 02/24/2020 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] Quoting: NawtyBits This is from the CDC COVID19 page, updated yesterday. Risk Assessment Outbreaks of novel virus infections among people are always of public health concern. The risk from these outbreaks depends on characteristics of the virus, including how well it spreads between people, the severity of resulting illness, and the medical or other measures available to control the impact of the virus (for example, vaccine or treatment medications). The fact that this disease has caused illness, including illness resulting in death, and sustained person-to-person spread is concerning. These factors meet two of the criteria of a pandemic. As community spread is detected in more and more countries, the world moves closer toward meeting the third criteria, worldwide spread of the new virus. The potential public health threat posed by COVID-19 is high, both globally and to the United States. But individual risk is dependent on exposure. For the general American public, who are unlikely to be exposed to this virus at this time, the immediate health risk from COVID-19 is considered low. Under current circumstances, certain people will have an increased risk of infection, for example healthcare workers caring for patients with COVID-19 and other close contacts of persons with COVID-19. CDC has developed guidance to help in the risk assessment and management of people with potential exposures to COVID-19. However, it’s important to note that current global circumstances suggest it is likely that this virus will cause a pandemic. In that case, the risk assessment would be different. What May Happen More cases are likely to be identified in the coming days, including more cases in the United States. It’s also likely that person-to-person spread will continue to occur, including in the United States. Widespread transmission of COVID-19 in the United States would translate into large numbers of people needing medical care at the same time. Schools, childcare centers, workplaces, and other places for mass gatherings may experience more absenteeism. Public health and healthcare systems may become overloaded, with elevated rates of hospitalizations and deaths. Other critical infrastructure, such as law enforcement, emergency medical services, and transportation industry may also be affected. Health care providers and hospitals may be overwhelmed. At this time, there is no vaccine to protect against COVID-19 and no medications approved to treat it. Nonpharmaceutical interventions would be the most important response strategy. Comment: NPIs include: school and business closings, social distancing, canceling public events, closing public buildings, shelter-in-place orders, quarantines. Are you ready? tone changed dramatically, no They are slowly walking us. Yes, like the slow boiling frog. . |
Feistylorax
User ID: 77990952 United States 02/24/2020 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 I was worried for a min, I posted a thread about it. “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, Nothing is going to get better. It's not.” Dr. Seuss, The Lorax ENTP SAHM raising chickens and kids preparing for whatever happens |
NawtyBits
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Feistylorax
User ID: 77990952 United States 02/24/2020 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 I was worried for a min, I posted a thread about it. Thanks Trinity!! “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, Nothing is going to get better. It's not.” Dr. Seuss, The Lorax ENTP SAHM raising chickens and kids preparing for whatever happens |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78518536 United States 02/24/2020 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 This thread is our anchor. Thanks, Trinity, and especially thanks, NawtyBits. Hard to get real information -- the noise level is deafening out there. Seems like everyone on Twitter has something to say about it, such a change from a month ago. Mostly useless stuff we knew weeks back. The situation in Italy is deeply concerning. Big question: Has anyone noted a psychological component to this, in the sick? Yes, the well are going nuts, as you'd expect. Except for the twitching in the suddenly collapsed, haven't seen anything. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8826754 United States 02/24/2020 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 OMG Trinity - THANK YOU and please, don't let this thread vanish, I swear it's where I read to stay calm and sane through this thing. Nawty, THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for this thread. I was FREAKING OUT when I couldn't find it! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8826754 United States 02/24/2020 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 The extremely rapid spread in the Muslim country (is it Iran? I can't recall at the moment) is quite possibly related to their pre prayer cleansing routine which is done in common basins outside their mosques. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78440777 Canada 02/24/2020 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 It's more than obvious that the numbers coming out of China are bogus and the international medical "authorities" are incompetent. How did Iran and Italy go from zero cases to multiple dead overnight? Now that it's spreading outside of the grip of Chinese censorship, we should get a more realistic picture of how this disease works. It's not looking good. Quoting: KeepingItReal I think that health departments were relying on info provided out of China and by the WHO to decide on the threat level. These health people knew the info was hinky, but the the logic was, at least we have something we can work with to plan. Now we are seeing a truer picture in Italy and South Korea, not to mention Japan and Hong Kong. Now that we have outbreaks in more open countries, we will get a much picture of how this virus will affect the rest of the world. And this picture isn't pretty. Oh, and hubris. Our CDC has only recently appeared humble in it's dealings about COVID. I can't overstate the fact that most health authorities at all levels are not medical professionals. If they ever worked with patients it was a long time ago. They fell into administrative positions and don't understand what happens on the front lines. They are mostly political appointees working for some political agenda. In a word, they are incompetent. I feel bad for the medical professionals on the front lines. True. Our national health minister is a graphic artist, and our provincial health minister is a lawyer. The provincial one is enacting some cutbacks to health affecting doctors, that will kick in on April 1, April Fool's Day, right about the time the true extent of Covid-19 is kicking in here. Such brilliance! For those "Feb. 27" thread followers, cutbacks to nurses and other health workers in my province will be announced on Feb. 27. More brilliance, no doubt, with no consideration to the current status of Covid-19. Apparently health officials don't read the news. They just set policy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54278720 Canada 02/24/2020 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 Exclusive: Iran Revolutionary Guards spymaster rejects holy city quarantine [link to iranintl.com (secure)] "Taeb reportedly said Qom was the “honor of Islam” and implementing quarantine measure there would play into the hands of US media." So like China, Iran is willing to commit suicide just to save face. Unbelievable. |
miabelieves
User ID: 77874365 United States 02/24/2020 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 thought worth bringing over here Critical Analysis 2.24.2020 Quoting: millenniumjackal I hear the train a comin' it's rollin' 'round the bend... My fellow GLPers, Before I roll into my usual report, I just want to take a moment to remind everyone that everyone reading this is the product of thousands of years of human determination and survival. To be sitting here right now means that at some point, your ancestors made it through some of the darkest periods of human history. The DNA that courses through your veins has survived the Black Death, the collapse of countless civilizations, invasions by throat cutting barbaric tribes. Now this is your moment in human history. In the time that comes, I urge you to remember your humanity. Help one another- this isn't about your survival, but the survival of our species. Is it worth surviving if you lose your dignity and what it means to be human in the process? Be ready to defend yourself from those who would do you harm, but also be ready to not only help yourselves but to help others in need. Global Pandemic China is in ruin- the extent of which will not be known until the dust settles. South Korea and Italy are following soon. When people think of other countries having outbreaks, they don't think geographically. One country is not equal to another in terms of size. Italy is the size of a fraction of just one province in China in terms of size and population. Let that sink in for a moment. Within the next two weeks, there will be widespread outbreaks in countries across Europe and the Middle East. While it is true that a majority of people will survive the virus, economic collapse and civil unrest are a much bigger threat and will do more damage than the virus itself. Having met world leaders in the past, I can tell you that they are all inept at best and crooked at worst. They are just figureheads that are pressured by the people who really run things- those with wealth and true power. Those people have a very dim view of people like you and me. What I'm trying to say is don't expect some governmental organization to come save you from this. If anything, this crisis will attempt to be used to bring closer a very dystopian future. What is unfolding is unlike anything human history has experienced in scale. Those times where something similar has happened in written history, the socioeconomic system was much better equipped to deal with it than it is now. For a long time, the economy has been plastered over with a thin veneer to attempt to hide the cracks and all appeared to be well. This won't be possible any longer. It is not possible to stop or control this virus. Even the best attempts at vector control will not suffice. I personally made preps to attempt to give a fighting chance at staving it off because I'm not the type to roll over and give up, but realistically I know that the plan is plan to be infected and be ready to sustain myself, my family and my neighbors- those who are left standing. I expect that this will continue to go on in waves and troughs for the next 18 months until all is said and done in regards to the outbreak. In other considerations, society will not last as long before things begin to break down. Most people cannot support themselves for more than 72 hours after the grocery store is bare. Do not let this be you. It will take 2 weeks of nonstop preps to even have enough to continue normal life for 3 months. Even that will probably be nowhere enough. Honestly, for those who have never thought through something like this, it is already too late to prepare. Remember, because of how slowly this virus simmers and insidiously lurks before revealing the extent of this damage, the reports that you see in the news are a several week delay of the true extent of the spread. Don't panic, be ready. The panic is what will cause the worst damage. Reject calls to globalism from unelected leaders when they come- they will come offering a solution but globalism is what has caused the dominos to start falling in the first place. - Jackal Hold on to your undies, it's gonna be a hell of a ride |
miabelieves
User ID: 77874365 United States 02/24/2020 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 Breaking Quoting: Wharf Rat Confirmed case of Coronavirus 2 hours from Buffalo, NY [link to wyrk.com (secure)] From the article (above): "We're still waiting to see if a case is confirmed in Buffalo but there have been self-quarantines in Rochester two weeks ago (the link below) in fear of the virus and now a confirmed case in Toronto..." [link to wyrk.com (secure)] HELLS BELLS Are these from the ship or all new???? [link to texas.liveuamap.com (secure)] OH and this [link to www.msn.com] Last Edited by miabelieves on 02/24/2020 01:08 PM Hold on to your undies, it's gonna be a hell of a ride |
Woodenboat
User ID: 54278720 Canada 02/24/2020 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 'A strange, absurd situation': Life in Italy's coronavirus 'red zone' [link to www.thelocal.it (secure)] In theory, virtually all traffic is banned from entering the "red zone", with exemptions for those such as police, medical personnel and lorries carrying essential supplies. The same goes for those leaving, although AFP saw certain vehicles and cyclists being allowed through the cordon. "They're not residents in the area, they're just passing through," explains a soldier, while admitting that there is a still a margin of flexibility while the quarantine measures are being put in place... "We're keeping our distance from other people, we're taking precautions," says Medaglia, from Bertonico, one of the towns under quarantine. "It's calm there, there's no panic. But it's a strange, absurd situation," he says, adding that he fears for his family business in Somaglia. "I came to ask the police if it's possible to move within the red zone from one town to another," he explains. He has to make to do with a vague answer. Here again the rules governing which vehicles are allowed in don't appear entirely clear. "As long as they stay on the main roads, it's fine, they just need to avoid going into the villages on the small roads," explains a policeman. But how can they check who's going where? Thoughts: And that is why it is going to keep spreading in Italy. Last Edited by Woodenboat on 02/24/2020 01:09 PM |
Woodenboat
User ID: 54278720 Canada 02/24/2020 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 7th case in B.C. now...related to infected woman (6th case) that returned from Iran. [link to twitter.com (secure)] |
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Woodenboat
User ID: 54278720 Canada 02/24/2020 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 The rank and file are no longer in lock step... [link to twitter.com (secure)] B.C. Health Officer Bonnie Henry says coronavirus outbreak now meets the "classic definition" of a pandemic - News 1130 |
Paranoiaaaaa
Butters User ID: 78519105 United States 02/24/2020 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 OMG Trinity - THANK YOU and please, don't let this thread vanish, I swear it's where I read to stay calm and sane through this thing. Nawty, THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for this thread. I was FREAKING OUT when I couldn't find it! Yes, thanks Trinity and thank you Op for keeping us up to date! The CDC seems to be changing their tone. It sounds like they don't want to cause a panic, but they want to be able to cover their asses with "We said it was possible, even likely." "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you." - Fox Mulder - The X-Files "Life is what happens while you are busy making other plans." - John Lennon |
miabelieves
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(SARS-CoV) vs (SARS-CoV-2) User ID: 75405094 Netherlands 02/24/2020 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 This will be a thread for news and information on nCoV that's currently emerging. I would appreciate it if you start a tread on breaking news, you post a copy of the breaking info on this thread, too. Quoting: NawtyBits Some rules: If you post a link to information, then please post a snippet of the info. If you post a video, post a synopsis. There are a couple of folks I know that attend GLP (or did) and they are quite knowledgeable on pandemics. (Trey?) Please chime in. If you post something in a foreign language, please translate it to English. I know, I know, I'm a fussy little man-bitch. Deal with it. Or don't. I don't have time to wade through the BS right now. This may fizzle out like SARS; it may not. It's way too early to tell, and the way the Chinese are admitting things is cause for deep concern. Now we wait and see. This is SARS-CoV-2 , The previous was SARS-CoV [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] Infection of humans with the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV) results in substantial morbidity and mortality, with death resulting primarily from respiratory failure. While the lungs are the major site of infection, the brain is also infected in some patients. Brain infection may result in long-term neurological sequelae, but little is known about the pathogenesis of SARS-CoV in this organ. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71641039 United States 02/24/2020 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 |
NawtyBits
(OP) User ID: 78033304 United States 02/24/2020 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 Here's the CDC numbers released from today. As of 4 pm yesterday: COVID-19: Confirmed Cases in the United States*† COVID-19: Confirmed Cases in the United States*† Travel-related 12 Person-to-person spread 2 Total confirmed cases 14 Total tested 426 They are no longer reporting the number of people tested. Nor are they reporting number of states with PUI. COVID-19: Cases among Persons Repatriated to the United States† COVID-19: Cases among Persons Repatriated to the United States† Wuhan, China 3 Diamond Princess Cruise Ship 36 WWJBD-What Would Jimmy Buffett Do "If it's wet and not yours, don't touch it." Oregon H1N1 Summit speaker |
Deplorable Mary
User ID: 78505706 United States 02/24/2020 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 thanks Trin Yes, Thank you Trin! This is one of the few places I check several times a day for info and updates. This thread especially. I've said it before and I will say it again, thanks to Nawty and the others contributing good info and keeping the garbage out. I am sure it's a lot of work. |
Deplorable Mary
User ID: 78505706 United States 02/24/2020 01:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 Here's the CDC numbers released from today. As of 4 pm yesterday: Quoting: NawtyBits COVID-19: Confirmed Cases in the United States*† COVID-19: Confirmed Cases in the United States*† Travel-related 12 Person-to-person spread 2 Total confirmed cases 14 Total tested 426 They are no longer reporting the number of people tested. Nor are they reporting number of states with PUI. COVID-19: Cases among Persons Repatriated to the United States† COVID-19: Cases among Persons Repatriated to the United States† Wuhan, China 3 Diamond Princess Cruise Ship 36 Seems way under reported. |
NawtyBits
(OP) User ID: 78033304 United States 02/24/2020 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 [link to www.cbc.ca (secure)] Canada A seventh case of COVID-19 has been diagnosed in British Columbia in the Fraser Health region. Provincial health officer Dr. Bonnie Henry said the man, in his 40s, is a close contact of a young woman who was diagnosed with the illness caused by the novel coronavirus last week after she travelled back to Vancouver from Iran. Henry said the man had shown symptoms of the illness prior to the positive diagnosis of the woman, and went into isolation last week. He is now in stable condition and recovering at home, as is the woman. WWJBD-What Would Jimmy Buffett Do "If it's wet and not yours, don't touch it." Oregon H1N1 Summit speaker |