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NawtyBits
(OP) User ID: 78033304 United States 01/25/2020 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 Nationwide martial law isn't practical. Not enough "martials". It may be tried in bigger cities if things go full retard. If it gets to that point, I think they will try martial law in the big cities, and let the smaller ones fend for themselves. A lot of real small towns will probably enforce their own type of "cordon sanitaire" WWJBD-What Would Jimmy Buffett Do "If it's wet and not yours, don't touch it." Oregon H1N1 Summit speaker |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3941884 United States 01/25/2020 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 if its a weapon, hand washing will do nothing. they would have thought around that. fibre masks, same, if its a weapon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75578381 True. But there will never be enough masks. And 95% of the population doesn't have them. viruses are so small, they pass right through every single mask you see a person on the tv wearing. its a total placebo. if you can breath air through it, you sucked the virus in. the only option is sealed and supplied air or endless canisters, which are dangerous as hell after they are spent and changing them in a hot zone, is death. i think the real problem is mutation. the base virus is so spread and has many options to thrive or die off in. it may eventually become specific. Nah viruses travel airborne in water droplets so if the droplet can’t get through nor will the virus |
Where Eagles Dare
Metal-American User ID: 73836248 United States 01/25/2020 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 Yesterday CBS in Detroit published a story saying the three suspected cases in Michigan were "deaths". They have subsequently changed their headline. It was in error. It now reads: ... I'm in Michigan and am keeping an eye on the news. The internet archive site doesn't have that page archived so I can't link proof to the fact that their headline said "Deaths" yesterday. I should have screenshot it. They got better. As in?? Rose from the grave better? As in: Isaiah 40:31 - But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint. “They’ve got us surrounded again, the poor bastards.” - U.S. Army Paratrooper at Bastogne |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72806722 United States 01/25/2020 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 What's irritating is that China has been the source of, and incubating, deadly microbes since apparently the era of the Great Plague centuries ago. More recently, the Spanish flu in the early 1900s. Yet apathy to basic hygiene and avoiding risky behaviors like eating sleazy things has never caught on with a lot of that nation's culture and population. WTF is wrong with so many humans? The dumb Chinese who don't know where to draw the line are variations of all the dumb Americans who don't know where to draw the line when it comes to the Clintons/Obamas/Bidens/Schiffs of the US. . Communist NPC's with not a grain of individuality and true spirit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77999315 United States 01/25/2020 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 if its a weapon, hand washing will do nothing. they would have thought around that. fibre masks, same, if its a weapon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75578381 True. But there will never be enough masks. And 95% of the population doesn't have them. viruses are so small, they pass right through every single mask you see a person on the tv wearing. its a total placebo. if you can breath air through it, you sucked the virus in. the only option is sealed and supplied air or endless canisters, which are dangerous as hell after they are spent and changing them in a hot zone, is death. i think the real problem is mutation. the base virus is so spread and has many options to thrive or die off in. it may eventually become specific. Nah viruses travel airborne in water droplets so if the droplet can’t get through nor will the virus Viruses can also enter the body via eyes, ears, and any other orifice or wound. Masks are a pacifier for the masses. Further, protection from infection doesn’t matter if you starve, freeze, or worse if supply chains go down. |
NawtyBits
(OP) User ID: 78033304 United States 01/25/2020 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 ... Quoting: NawtyBits True. But there will never be enough masks. And 95% of the population doesn't have them. viruses are so small, they pass right through every single mask you see a person on the tv wearing. its a total placebo. if you can breath air through it, you sucked the virus in. the only option is sealed and supplied air or endless canisters, which are dangerous as hell after they are spent and changing them in a hot zone, is death. i think the real problem is mutation. the base virus is so spread and has many options to thrive or die off in. it may eventually become specific. Nah viruses travel airborne in water droplets so if the droplet can’t get through nor will the virus Viruses can also enter the body via eyes, ears, and any other orifice or wound. Masks are a pacifier for the masses. Further, protection from infection doesn’t matter if you starve, freeze, or worse if supply chains go down. THOSE are things one can mitigate. You have time. WWJBD-What Would Jimmy Buffett Do "If it's wet and not yours, don't touch it." Oregon H1N1 Summit speaker |
Scorpionica
User ID: 10368710 United States 01/25/2020 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 I have some brown bottles of Lysol ordered. Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith When at University, I worked in a very high end restaurant as a VIP room server. We maintained a small bucket of water with 1/4 cup of the brown lysol dissolved in the water. After any interaction with customers, touching serve ware, touching trays, notepads, etc, we dipped our hands & dried them with a clean paper towel. The liquid immersion hit every nook and cranny up to our elbows. Yes, we also had lotion to keep from getting dried out hands, and to lessen the lysol smell. Reason -- such a restaurant could take no chances on customers getting sick, nor could they afford sick staff (the caliber of staff required for such a restaurant is difficult to find & recruit). While I worked there, no customers ever complained of illness, and none of the staff ever became sick. When I get the Lysol in, I will be implementing the hand sanitizing protocol with my family. Excellent tip! Thanks! "An unfailing experience of mundane events in harmony with the changes occurring in the heavens has instructed and compelled my unwilling belief." Johannes Kepler "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years..." Genesis 1:14 |
NawtyBits
(OP) User ID: 78033304 United States 01/25/2020 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 h/t Treyfish at FT [link to globalnews.ca (secure)] Health officials announce ‘presumptive’ case of coronavirus in Toronto Ontario health officials have announced that a “presumptive” case of coronavirus has been confirmed at Toronto’s Sunnybrook hospital, marking the first such case in Canada. [snip] male 50's imported case WWJBD-What Would Jimmy Buffett Do "If it's wet and not yours, don't touch it." Oregon H1N1 Summit speaker |
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TheParadigmMan
User ID: 73104746 United States 01/25/2020 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 Hey Nawty ... so glad to see a common sense thread on here. This beast seems to make the old Ebola days seem laughable. Thank You for putting it all together for real with just the facts !! God Bless everyone and Good Luck to all of us ... Hopefully this isn't "it" !! |
NawtyBits
(OP) User ID: 78033304 United States 01/25/2020 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 [link to bnonews.com (secure)] As of 7 minutes ago: Confirmed 1762 Dead 54 Critical condition 11 Serious condition 211 WWJBD-What Would Jimmy Buffett Do "If it's wet and not yours, don't touch it." Oregon H1N1 Summit speaker |
NawtyBits
(OP) User ID: 78033304 United States 01/25/2020 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 I'm going to post this again. This is what we are dealing with. [link to www.popsci.com (secure)] How Sneeze Particles Travel Inside an Airplane Enjoy! WWJBD-What Would Jimmy Buffett Do "If it's wet and not yours, don't touch it." Oregon H1N1 Summit speaker |
NawtyBits
(OP) User ID: 78033304 United States 01/25/2020 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 How to make your own hand sanitizer. [link to www.thoughtco.com (secure)] WWJBD-What Would Jimmy Buffett Do "If it's wet and not yours, don't touch it." Oregon H1N1 Summit speaker |
NawtyBits
(OP) User ID: 78033304 United States 01/25/2020 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 For those so interested. How to don and doff PPE [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] WWJBD-What Would Jimmy Buffett Do "If it's wet and not yours, don't touch it." Oregon H1N1 Summit speaker |
AR 15-SPECIALIST
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TheParadigmMan
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NawtyBits
(OP) User ID: 78033304 United States 01/25/2020 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 While we were keeping an eye on Ebola back in the day there was a virology forum that I believe a virologist named Ian had kept posting updates and there was very interesting info being posted by numerous Dr.s and virologists ... anyone remember the name of that forum ?? Quoting: TheParadigmMan He hasn't posted in days. I check several times a day. [link to virologydownunder.com (secure)] Last Edited by NawtyBits on 01/25/2020 06:33 PM WWJBD-What Would Jimmy Buffett Do "If it's wet and not yours, don't touch it." Oregon H1N1 Summit speaker |
TheParadigmMan
User ID: 73104746 United States 01/25/2020 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 On the basis of the information currently available, ECDC considers that: Quoting: Jaques • potential impact of #nCoV2019 outbreaks is high; • further global spread is likely; • moderate likelihood of infection for EU/EEA travellers visiting #Wuhan; • moderate likelihood of detecting cases imported in into EU/EEA countries • adherence to appropriate infection prevention and control practices, particularly in healthcare settings in EU/EEA countries with direct links to Wuhan, means that the likelihood of a case reported in the EU resulting in secondary cases within the EU/EEA is low. Read the full #RiskAssessment here: [link to www.ecdc.europa.eu (secure)] I pray you are right but counting on the "officials" to provide us with a valid risk assessment would be irresponsible at best!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40058359 Canada 01/25/2020 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 Just some advice re: corona virus. I often wear gloves and this is also helpful in preventing the spread of the virus. Gloves work two ways they protect you and they protect others! |
AR 15-SPECIALIST
Admit it! We’re Fucked User ID: 77914377 United States 01/25/2020 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 1st column "Date" - Numbers taken late evening Eastern time. 2nd column "Cumulative worldwide deaths" 3rd column "Deaths over next 24 hr period" 4th column "Official count when available" - Post will be updated Jan 22 - 17 - 8 - 17 official Jan 23 - 25 - 12 - 25 official Jan 24 - 37 - 18 - 41 official Jan 25 - 55 - 27 Jan 26 - 82 - 41 Jan 27 - 123 - 61 Jan 28 - 184 - 92 Jan 29 - 276 - 138 Jan 30 - 414 - 207 Jan 31 - 621 - 310 Feb 1 - 931 - 465 Feb 2 - 1,396 - 698 Feb 3 - 2,094 - 1,047 Feb 4 - 3,141 - 1,570 Feb 5 - 4,711 - 2,355 Feb 6 - 7,066 - 3,533 Feb 7 - 10,599 - 5,299 Feb 8 - 15,898 - 7,949 Feb 9 - 23,847 - 11,923 Feb 10 - 35,770 - 17,885 Feb 11 - 53,655 - 26,827 Feb 12 - 80,482 - 40,241 Feb 13 - 120,723 - 60,361 Feb 14 - 181,084 - 90,542 Feb 15 - 271,626 - 135,813 Feb 16 - 407,439 - 203,719 TRUMPS FAULT |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40058359 Canada 01/25/2020 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 I'm going to post this again. This is what we are dealing with. Quoting: NawtyBits [link to www.popsci.com (secure)] How Sneeze Particles Travel Inside an Airplane Enjoy! Mmmmmm yummy! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40058359 Canada 01/25/2020 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 1st column "Date" - Numbers taken late evening Eastern time. Quoting: AR 15-SPECIALIST 2nd column "Cumulative worldwide deaths" 3rd column "Deaths over next 24 hr period" 4th column "Official count when available" - Post will be updated Jan 22 - 17 - 8 - 17 official Jan 23 - 25 - 12 - 25 official Jan 24 - 37 - 18 - 41 official Jan 25 - 55 - 27 Jan 26 - 82 - 41 Jan 27 - 123 - 61 Jan 28 - 184 - 92 Jan 29 - 276 - 138 Jan 30 - 414 - 207 Jan 31 - 621 - 310 Feb 1 - 931 - 465 Feb 2 - 1,396 - 698 Feb 3 - 2,094 - 1,047 Feb 4 - 3,141 - 1,570 Feb 5 - 4,711 - 2,355 Feb 6 - 7,066 - 3,533 Feb 7 - 10,599 - 5,299 Feb 8 - 15,898 - 7,949 Feb 9 - 23,847 - 11,923 Feb 10 - 35,770 - 17,885 Feb 11 - 53,655 - 26,827 Feb 12 - 80,482 - 40,241 Feb 13 - 120,723 - 60,361 Feb 14 - 181,084 - 90,542 Feb 15 - 271,626 - 135,813 Feb 16 - 407,439 - 203,719 Its already higher than that! 53 now! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40058359 Canada 01/25/2020 06:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 1st column "Date" - Numbers taken late evening Eastern time. Quoting: AR 15-SPECIALIST 2nd column "Cumulative worldwide deaths" 3rd column "Deaths over next 24 hr period" 4th column "Official count when available" - Post will be updated Jan 22 - 17 - 8 - 17 official Jan 23 - 25 - 12 - 25 official Jan 24 - 37 - 18 - 41 official Jan 25 - 55 - 27 Jan 26 - 82 - 41 Jan 27 - 123 - 61 Jan 28 - 184 - 92 Jan 29 - 276 - 138 Jan 30 - 414 - 207 Jan 31 - 621 - 310 Feb 1 - 931 - 465 Feb 2 - 1,396 - 698 Feb 3 - 2,094 - 1,047 Feb 4 - 3,141 - 1,570 Feb 5 - 4,711 - 2,355 Feb 6 - 7,066 - 3,533 Feb 7 - 10,599 - 5,299 Feb 8 - 15,898 - 7,949 Feb 9 - 23,847 - 11,923 Feb 10 - 35,770 - 17,885 Feb 11 - 53,655 - 26,827 Feb 12 - 80,482 - 40,241 Feb 13 - 120,723 - 60,361 Feb 14 - 181,084 - 90,542 Feb 15 - 271,626 - 135,813 Feb 16 - 407,439 - 203,719 Its already higher than that! 53 now! So your final figure would be loser to 586,102 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40058359 Canada 01/25/2020 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 1st column "Date" - Numbers taken late evening Eastern time. Quoting: AR 15-SPECIALIST 2nd column "Cumulative worldwide deaths" 3rd column "Deaths over next 24 hr period" 4th column "Official count when available" - Post will be updated Jan 22 - 17 - 8 - 17 official Jan 23 - 25 - 12 - 25 official Jan 24 - 37 - 18 - 41 official Jan 25 - 55 - 27 Jan 26 - 82 - 41 Jan 27 - 123 - 61 Jan 28 - 184 - 92 Jan 29 - 276 - 138 Jan 30 - 414 - 207 Jan 31 - 621 - 310 Feb 1 - 931 - 465 Feb 2 - 1,396 - 698 Feb 3 - 2,094 - 1,047 Feb 4 - 3,141 - 1,570 Feb 5 - 4,711 - 2,355 Feb 6 - 7,066 - 3,533 Feb 7 - 10,599 - 5,299 Feb 8 - 15,898 - 7,949 Feb 9 - 23,847 - 11,923 Feb 10 - 35,770 - 17,885 Feb 11 - 53,655 - 26,827 Feb 12 - 80,482 - 40,241 Feb 13 - 120,723 - 60,361 Feb 14 - 181,084 - 90,542 Feb 15 - 271,626 - 135,813 Feb 16 - 407,439 - 203,719 Its already higher than that! 53 now! So your final figure would be closer to 586,102 Closer to 586,102 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72595560 United States 01/25/2020 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 Sounds like Beijing is going on full lock down. Quoting: NawtyBits US personnel and ex-pats being evacuated back to US. Put 'em in a camp somewhere till verified virus free Maybe set something up at mid way to take care of them if they need it and to keep the other safe till they are free to return safely. Can it be done? |
I think you're correct. User ID: 78296198 United States 01/25/2020 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345 So, they have banned all public transportation in XX cities and regions. Now they are starting to ban private conveyances, allowing only government sponsored vehicles to move. (FYI, I saw a stat that said 220,000 POVs left Wuhan just before the travel ban took place.) Quoting: NawtyBits This situation in several cities is already dire, but I'll use Wuhan for discussion purposes since this is ground Zero. Wuhan is approximately 600 sq miles. There are 26 power generating facilities in Hubei province ( [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] 15 of those are non-renewable, coal, gas, fuel oil. Those facilities need people to run. Deliveries of fuels, people to unload fuel, people to run the power plants, etc. At what point do people stop going to work? Or start dropping dead at work? Or people can't get to work? They can send in the military, but the military will be busy enforcing quarantines. We are mere steps away from martial law, if we aren't there already. Non-government sponsored info is being clamped down on. I suspect that soon the internet there will be severely restricted. But, I believe, if things are as bad as I think they are, that we will start hearing rumors of power outages and local electricity blackouts, first, and probably total electrical blackouts eventually. You want to see panic? Turn out the lights for a day or 2. We are on a slippery slope, and it's going to be difficult to put on the brakes. Someone convince me I'm out of line here, that I'm wrong. |
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