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Something interesting(to me, anyway)

Boxun (an aggregation website, which focuses on alleged political scandals in China) has been covering the outbreak for the last few days, posting news critical of the Chinese gov't, and some good info I haven't seen elsewhere.

Today's articles are now about:

air pollution and miscarriage
tips for losing that extra holiday weight
eating lilies for fall and winter dry throat and overall health
 Quoting: NawtyBits


Looks like there has been a crackdown on any questions/criticisms. Not surprising.

The Chinese are losing control of this jinn, and I agree with your earlier post -- could they decide to go full retard as a consequence of losing face.

Losing face is one thing Asians do not well abide.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith


I am noticing a lack of postings and videos of this situation by Chinese on Twitter today, it looks like all that has been cut off.
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China coronavirus: Beijing confirms use of anti-HIV drugs at some hospitals



“Online rumors say that an anti-Aids drug has been used and proved to be effective in treating the coronavirus,” according to a statement by Beijing Municipal Health Commission. “The National Health Commission has recommended the rumored names to treat the coronavirus before and we have Lopinavir/Ritonavir in stock in Beijing"


I mentioned those in a much earlier post in the thread.
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I also read that they have some effect as well
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Something interesting(to me, anyway)

Boxun (an aggregation website, which focuses on alleged political scandals in China) has been covering the outbreak for the last few days, posting news critical of the Chinese gov't, and some good info I haven't seen elsewhere.

Today's articles are now about:

air pollution and miscarriage
tips for losing that extra holiday weight
eating lilies for fall and winter dry throat and overall health
 Quoting: NawtyBits


Looks like there has been a crackdown on any questions/criticisms. Not surprising.

The Chinese are losing control of this jinn, and I agree with your earlier post -- could they decide to go full retard as a consequence of losing face.

Losing face is one thing Asians do not well abide.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith


I am noticing a lack of postings and videos of this situation by Chinese on Twitter today, it looks like all that has been cut off.
 Quoting: Peepaws
Not cut off..things are improving at rapidness
.you find next week it getting so much better!!!
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RSOE website reports reliably on events. No mention of class 1 emergency Shanghi and Beijing

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Disturbing video. As I've said before, this is out of a sci-fi movie. I don't know if this is authentic.

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Hey HEART SUTRA if you are really in Taiwan, can you verify that the subtitles are what she is saying? Thanks
 Quoting: NawtyBits


Holy fucking Christ ... This is it.

It's out of anyone's hands now. That's to say: if they don't shut down ALL air traffic globally for a month, borders sealed everywhere, there's no way of this having a chance of dying down.

But they won't ... muh precious economy ... muh precious globalism ... muh precious dollah and yuans ...
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Something interesting(to me, anyway)

Boxun (an aggregation website, which focuses on alleged political scandals in China) has been covering the outbreak for the last few days, posting news critical of the Chinese gov't, and some good info I haven't seen elsewhere.

Today's articles are now about:

air pollution and miscarriage
tips for losing that extra holiday weight
eating lilies for fall and winter dry throat and overall health
 Quoting: NawtyBits


Looks like there has been a crackdown on any questions/criticisms. Not surprising.

The Chinese are losing control of this jinn, and I agree with your earlier post -- could they decide to go full retard as a consequence of losing face.

Losing face is one thing Asians do not well abide.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith


I am noticing a lack of postings and videos of this situation by Chinese on Twitter today, it looks like all that has been cut off.
 Quoting: Peepaws
Not cut off..things are improving at rapidness
.you find next week it getting so much better!!!
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That doesn't appear to be likely.
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So is political correctness responsible for the lack of information regarding ethnicities of those who catch this in countries outside of China??
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Isolation/quarantine works and would go a long way to end the spread.

Yes, imposition of isolation/quarantines does deny freedom of movement to those people.

While Americans are all about 'individual rights' and tend to object to those things, Chinese don't have to worry about that.

Remember, in California, it's LEGAL to intentionally infect someone with deadly viruses....

So long term, I think it's possible that China may end up doing a better job in terms of protecting their people than the US will.

Because ... lawyers.
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Can we send the ambulance chasers to the outbreak epicenter?
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Grass roots pandemic control.

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PLS PLS HELP SPREADING THE WORDS
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To all passengers on flight CZ311 flying from Guangzhou to Toronto on Jan 22: PLEASE stay home for 14 days and prevent going out to public areas due to the fact that the first Coronavirus patient in Toronto was on the same flight (cont)
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Not cut off..things are improving at rapidness
.you find next week it getting so much better!!!

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With respect AC, that's plain bs bullshit

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SOMETHING YOU MAY NOT KNOW:

PREPARING TO ENTER THE PUBLIC:

This video was embedded in one of the links on an earlier
page, but I will put the video up so everyone who wishes to
can watch it.

This video is actually from an Asian source that is circulating
there, and is what is recommended for their own people
dealing with this virus.


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:FairUSE:

One thing in the video I have never seen is the
way the narrator hand-sanitizes the hands. I've used
the alcohol hand-sanitizer before...just rub it in
the palms of the hands and stopping, right? Well...
She's saying 20 seconds is necessary (sing "Happy Birthday"
or in the case of deeper cleaning with water and soap sing
"White Christmas"--which is LONGER.) She's also showing
5 or 6 different movements of the hands in really getting
the "tight" areas of the hands sanitized.

It's a good watch especially for young children who are
just learning about washing their hands, etc.

cheers
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Do a rubber glove test put tight rubber gloves on your hands and them blob about the size of quarter or a bit more of water based craft paint in cup of one hand ..close your eues sing happy birthday while washing your hands with the rubber gloves on pretending the paint is soap..open your eyes and look at all the spots you have missed on the gloves
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To all passengers on flight CZ311 flying from Guangzhou to Toronto on Jan 22: PLEASE stay home for 14 days and prevent going out to public areas due to the fact that the first Coronavirus patient in Toronto was on the same flight (cont)
 Quoting: NawtyBits


Spread the word.

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I just got back from a grocery store in SoCal .... the word might already have some spooked, I saw three people wearing masks including one employee ... probably GLP'ers lol

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Disturbing video. As I've said before, this is out of a sci-fi movie. I don't know if this is authentic.

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Hey HEART SUTRA if you are really in Taiwan, can you verify that the subtitles are what she is saying? Thanks
 Quoting: NawtyBits


Holy fucking Christ ... This is it.

It's out of anyone's hands now. That's to say: if they don't shut down ALL air traffic globally for a month, borders sealed everywhere, there's no way of this having a chance of dying down.

But they won't ... muh precious economy ... muh precious globalism ... muh precious dollah and yuans ...
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It's too late because the actual infection counts are 10 times higher than the confirmed (when you get the wu wu you don't know it for 10-14 days)

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The Seattle man who tested positive for the coronavirus after returning from China recently was kept in isolation and evaluated using a robot after arriving at Providence Regional Medical Center - Everett.

Dr. George Diaz, section chief of infectious diseases at the hospital, said that staff was contacted by the health department and asked to admit and treat the man, who has not been identified, once the positive coronavirus test results came back. Diaz said the man was transported to the hospital via ambulance from his home and placed in an isolation pod.
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They are starting to arrest low level officials in China for not doing enough to stop this epidemic.
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h/t penguinsix at FT

Social media reports say Shantou, a city of 5 million in the southern coast of China will go on full lockdown. No one allowed out, no one allowed in. Two confirmed cases there. First city outside of Hubei province to lockdown.
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NEW: The U.S. State Department says a charter flight will evacuate American diplomats and private citizens from Wuhan on Tuesday, Jan 28. The plane will go to San Francisco. Priority will be given to people at greater risk from coronavirus.

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#2019nCoV: There are ~2000 confirmed cases in 30 provinces in mainland China, up ~700 today. 14 other countries/territories have reported 47 cases. There's clearly a lot of illness & more big jumps ahead.
It is a very tough time in China. Wishing them strength, especially HCWs.

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47 million on lock down in China.
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Chinese cities in lockdown:

- Wuhan
- Huanggang
- Ezhou
- Chibi
- Jingzhou
- Zhijiang
- Huanggang
- Qianjiang
- Xiantao
- Xianning
- Huangshi
- Dangyang
- Enshi
- Xiaogan
- Jingmen
- Shantou

Total population: 47 million
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If what I'm reading is true, in 3-4 months 34% of the people currently posting on this site will be dead.

Does that sound right?
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Social media reports say Shantou, a city of 5 million in the southern coast of China will go on full lockdown. No one allowed out, no one allowed in. Two confirmed cases there. First city outside of Hubei province to lockdown.
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That's how it has to be done if they're going to get a handle on this thing.

China has the ability to do that.

The US has no such ability.

Once it begins ravaging our own country, it really will be uncontrollable because we can't do those things.

Hell, we have MAJOR CITIES that ALLOW open defecation! Isn't it San Fran that literally publishes a "POOP MAP" so visitors can AVOID the streets that have the most human excrement on them?

Imagine THOSE cities trying to "lock it down" to keep a KILLER DISEASE from spreading!
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If what I'm reading is true, in 3-4 months 34% of the people currently posting on this site will be dead.

Does that sound right?
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Probably more....society breaks down completely at this point. When society breaks down you don't have to worry about food. You can survive long enough with just water...because Nuclear reactors will meltdown and contaminate the Northern Hemisphere. Just saying.
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If what I'm reading is true, in 3-4 months 34% of the people currently posting on this site will be dead.

Does that sound right?
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No.
Not everyone gets sick, not everyone gets seriously sick, and it's highly unlikely that 1/3 of the world will be dead in a few months. Like this has the potential to get pretty bad, but not like that.
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So is political correctness responsible for the lack of information regarding ethnicities of those who catch this in countries outside of China??
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Way too early to tell if this virus prefers a certain genotype. I would expect 100% of the cases in the US to be imported. One shouldn't assume that the suspect cases in the US are all Chinese. We just don't know yet.

Give it another week.

But, coronaviruses aren't generally picky.
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So is political correctness responsible for the lack of information regarding ethnicities of those who catch this in countries outside of China??
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Way too early to tell if this virus prefers a certain genotype. I would expect 100% of the cases in the US to be imported. One shouldn't assume that the suspect cases in the US are all Chinese. We just don't know yet.

Give it another week.

But, coronaviruses aren't generally picky.
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Since the virus started in central China and there’s a two-week incubation period, it stands to reason that the only cases would be Chinese currently. If, as you said, in another 8-10 days, all the cases are still ethnically Chinese, we could start to be suspicious that it discriminates, but I very much doubt that will be the case.

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If what I'm reading is true, in 3-4 months 34% of the people currently posting on this site will be dead.

Does that sound right?
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No.
Not everyone gets sick, not everyone gets seriously sick, and it's highly unlikely that 1/3 of the world will be dead in a few months. Like this has the potential to get pretty bad, but not like that.
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Agreed. It may kill millions, or 10's of millions, but I can't believe that it would kill 3 billion.

Now, infrastructure and societal collapse....who knows.

If this continues the way it appears to be continuing, a lot of people who never even got nCoV will have died.

Now, before I start my daily news dump, I'm going to relax with a soak in my hot tub.

Life goes on.
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