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300,615 cases
8,129 deaths
12,572 recovered
279,914 unresolved



CFR=39% (deaths/resolved)

2.7% of confirmed have died.
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Four Possible Scenarios for Pandemic

I used four possible daily multipliers to paint out these scenarios. While what will transpire won't exactly track a particular scenario, it will rhyme with one.

The multipliers and RO describe infections outside China:

Scenario 1: RO drops to below 1 for Western Cultures

- Modest individual quarantines and protective measures by governments; very few deaths comparatively with Asia
- China is eviscerated and their product manufacturing base returns to the Western countries
- Vaccine ready by June - "Are you wearing your bracelet for being vaccinated, Citizen?"

Scenario 2: Daily cases rise by 1.08x

- March: Social Media censored or shut down (and GLP, too)
- May: Most will hear of a confirmed infection within 3 degrees of separation
- June: Hospitals overwhelmed at the same time the vaccine is starting to be distributed
- June/July: Potentially medical martial law

Scenario 3: Daily cases rise by 1.12x

- March: Social Media censored or shut down
- April: Most will hear of a confirmed infection within 3 degrees of separation
- Mid-May: Hospitals overwhelmed; first quarantine zones
- June: Medical martial law, checkpoints and forced vaccinations

Scenario 4: Daily cases rise by 1.28x

- Early February: Social Media censored or shut down
- Early March: Most will hear of a confirmed infection within 3 degrees of separation
- March: Hospitals overwhelmed, medical martial law, checkpoints, quarantine zones and cities
- April: Disease burn-out
- June: Vaccine ready for the elite and those that directly serve them

Beyond a daily increase of 1.28x the situation moves very fast, leading to Scenario 4 on a much shortened timescale.

A warning to shelter in place will be if you hear of a confirmed infection within your 3 degrees of separation.

I'm leaning to Scenarios 1 or 2 at this time.
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The death rate predicted by my model seems to roughly fit the 1.275x daily multiplier. Today's predicted US deaths are 7,733. 7,406 were reported dead this morning. I am assuming a 30 day lag from initial infection to death with ICUs being available.

The model was built only to predict the best time to shelter in place, and only the asymptotic rise phase of the pandemic. As the pandemic peaks, it will loose accuracy.

Since I posted these scenarios two months ago, I've had two 3rd degree infection reports and one 1st degree (my GF).

The story behind my girlfriend is tragic. Her family was attending to her father's last days in a Michigan hospital four weeks ago, where she believes she caught the virus. Many at the funeral also came down with symptoms later.

Fortunately, the family is doing much better at this point, having struggled with severe coughing and other symptoms.
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That’s a pretty depressing doomy update
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There are more than 300,000 coronavirus cases reported in the US

There are now 300,915 cases of coronavirus and 8,162 deaths in the US, according to Johns Hopkins University's tally.

On Saturday, at least 22,962 new cases and at least 1,010 new deaths were reported in the US, according to Johns Hopkins.
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More than 3,000 FDNY employees are out sick
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Niman used to do flu updates manly avain..has that person/entity posted anything on covid.
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Niman used to do flu updates manly avain..has that person/entity posted anything on covid.
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I checked Niman's site in January and Feb, there wasn't much at all. I stopped looking.
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Fauci on coronavirus in US: "We are struggling to get it under control"

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease specialist, says the US does not have the coronavirus under control, “to say we have it under control, Margaret, would be a false statement. We are struggling to get it under control.”

Fauci warned Americans in an interview on CBS with Margaret Brennan, that “it is going to be a bad week” ahead as there is an escalation in cases, but that “within a week or a little bit more” we should see the curve begin to flatten.

He again underscored the importance of social distancing measures, and said that mitigation is working.

Fauci said that it was crucial for the coronavirus to get “globally under control,” or it could become seasonal. He also said that efforts for a vaccine and the beginning of clinical trials will hopefully mean the US is more prepared if there is a resurgence of the virus.

This morning Fauci said in the next week or two the US will have a much greater capacity to perform the types of testing needed before society can return to normal, though they are not “100% there yet.”

Some context: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention changed its guidelines, recommending that Americans wear some sort of face protection when out in public.

When if Fauci wears a mask, he said that if he goes into a situation where he cannot control whether or not he is 6ft away from people, that he would and does wear a mask. He said the mask is an “adjunct to help protect you and protect others.”




FYI, it will take more than a week to flatten the curve enough to keep hospitals from overfilling. And it will be difficult as not all states are STFH yet. And some states, like Arizon, consider golf courses and spas "essential"

Also, as for a vax, I think a vax is going to be very difficult to find. How long have they been working for a cure to the common cold...a coronavirus. There would be billions or trillions of dollars for the lab that cured the common cold, and people have been working on a vax for colds for decades. There is no reason to believe a SARS-2 vax is even feasible.

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Fifth coronavirus case reported from Asia’s largest slum

A new case of coronavirus has been reported from the slums of Dharavi in Mumbai, India, on Sunday, Kiran Dighavkar, assistant commissioner of Mumbai’s civic body Brihanmumbai Municipal Corporation (BMC) told CNN.

“A 21-year-old man has been reported Covid-19 positive by doctors. There are a total of five confirmed cases, including one death," Dighavkar said.

The slum, home to around 1 million people, had earlier announced four cases.
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#Breaking: Captain removed from Command of USS Theodore Roosevelt tests positive for COVID-19

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Note the unusual uptick in cases in Japan
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and France
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. Pretty worried there. New York is still the worst hit by many fold (the Y axis is log scale, so everything linear is exponential). This graph adjusted for population.

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Navy Captain Removed From Carrier Tests Positive for Covid-19

Capt. Brett E. Crozier, the Navy captain who was removed from command of the coronavirus-stricken aircraft carrier U.S.S. Theodore Roosevelt, has tested positive for Covid-19, according to two Naval Academy classmates of Crozier’s who are close to him and his family.

A Navy spokesman declined to comment on Crozier’s Covid status.

The commander began exhibiting symptoms before he was removed from the warship on Thursday, two of his classmates said.
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I feel things are picking up in Boston, not just in volume but in how sick these #covid19 #coronavirus patients are presenting. The decision to put anyone on a ventilator is risky and challenging, much more so in this era. My last patient this shift was another reminder.
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New study on hydroxychloroquine and azithro. No real antiviral effects on #COVID19. Same dosing as the previous Gautret et al study from Marseille
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. This casts doubt if effects real or not. We need to slow down the rush, and need real randomized trial.



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New study on hydroxychloroquine and azithro. No real antiviral effects on #COVID19. Same dosing as the previous Gautret et al study from Marseille
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No Evidence of Rapid Antiviral Clearance or Clinical Benefit with the Combination of Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin in Patients with Severe COVID-19 Infection

[snip]



There were 7 men and 4 women with a mean age of 58.7 years (range: 20-77), 8 had significant comorbidities associated with poor outcomes (obesity: 2; solid cancer: 3; hematological cancer: 2; HIV-infection: 1). At the time of treatment initiation, 10/11 had fever and received nasal oxygen therapy. Within 5 days, one patient died, two were transferred to the ICU. In one patient, hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin were discontinued after 4 days because of a prolongation of the QT interval from 405 ms before treatment to 460 and 470 ms under the combination. Mean through blood concentration of hydroxychloroquine was 678 ng/mL (range: 381-891) at days 3-7 after treatment initiation.Repeated nasopharyngeal swabs in 10 patients (not done inthe patient who died) using a qualitative PCR assay (nucleic acid extraction using Nuclisens Easy Mag®, Biomerieux and amplification with RealStar SARS CoV-2®, Altona), were still positive for SARS-CoV2 RNA in 8/10 patients (80%, 95% confidence interval: 49-94) at days 5 to 6 after treatment initiation. These virologic results stand in contrast with those reported by Gautret et al. and cast doubts about the strong antiviral efficacy of this combination. Furthermore, in their report Gautret et al also reported one death and three transfers to the ICU among the 26 patients who received hydroxychloroquine, also underlining the poor clinical outcome with this combination. In addition, a recent study from China in individuals with COVID-19 found no difference in the rate of virologic clearance at 7 days with or without 5 days of hydroxychloroquine, and no difference in clinical outcomes (duration of hospitalization,temperature normalization, radiological progression) (4). These results are consistent with the lack of virologic or clinical benefit of chloroquine in a number of viral infections where it was assessed for treatment or prophylaxis with sometimes a deleterious effect on viral replication (5-8). In summary, despite a reported antiviral activity of chloroquine against COVID-19 in vitro, we found no evidence of a strong antiviral activity or clinical benefit of the combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin for the treatment of our hospitalized patients with severe COVID-19. Ongoing randomized clinical trials with hydroxychloroquine should provide a definitive answer regarding the alleged efficacy of this combination and will assess its safety.
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UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson admitted to hospital for coronavirus tests


UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson was admitted to a hospital on Sunday for coronavirus tests, according to a statement released by Johnson's office.

"On the advice of his doctor, the Prime Minister has tonight been admitted to hospital for tests," the statement read.

"This is a precautionary step, as the Prime Minister continues to have persistent symptoms of coronavirus 10 days after testing positive for the virus.





Bah. What other "precautionary" "coronavirus tests" can tghey do. He's already tested positive. And putting him in the hospital flies against all advice given....stay home unless very sick.

This is a bad sign for Boris, no matter how they try to spin the narrative.
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No Evidence of Rapid Antiviral Clearance or Clinical Benefit with the Combination of Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin in Patients with Severe COVID-19 Infection
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This study merely tells us what we already know:

Trump pills must be prescribed as soon as symptoms appear.
Once the patient needs hospitalization, they are of only limited benefit; and once the patient is on a ventilator, the Trump pills offer no benefit at all.
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I feel things are picking up in Boston, not just in volume but in how sick these #covid19 #coronavirus patients are presenting. The decision to put anyone on a ventilator is risky and challenging, much more so in this era. My last patient this shift was another reminder.
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If that's the case, there is no HERD IMMUNITY.
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I say give it to them if they want it. It does make some better and doesn't kill anyone as far as I know. What have you got to lose?

Maybe their trial patients are zinc deficient?
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I say give it to them if they want it. It does make some better and doesn't kill anyone as far as I know. What have you got to lose?

Maybe their trial patients are zinc deficient?
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In the Gautret study, they left out the outcomes of 4 people. The drugs made these 4 worse, and 1 died. I'm not sure how they decided that these 4 were made worse from the drugs and not just the natural progression of the disease.

And, in the new study, they had to pull someone off because it affected his heart rhythm, a well-known side-effect that can be fatal.
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I feel things are picking up in Boston, not just in volume but in how sick these #covid19 #coronavirus patients are presenting. The decision to put anyone on a ventilator is risky and challenging, much more so in this era. My last patient this shift was another reminder.
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If that's the case, there is no HERD IMMUNITY.
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Indeed. But, they are doing convalescent serum therapy, so there must be SOME antibodies. Perhaps there there is something that determines if one makes antibodies or not, genetics, diet, hair color...who knows.
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Churches across US hold Palm Sunday services despite social distancing and stay-at-home orders


Despite many states implementing stay-at-home orders and social distancing guidelines, churches across the US are still holding service on Palm Sunday, which marks Jesus' monumental arrival in Jerusalem.

"We don’t get our rights to worship freely from the government we get those from God," said the Rev. Tony Spell with the Life Tabernacle Church in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. More than 1,200 people attended his church Sunday.
"We rather obey God than man," he said."


The Rev. Alvin Gwynn Sr. of Friendship Baptist Church in Baltimore, Maryland, said he had a steady stream of people walking through the church, processional style, careful not to have more than eight or nine.

Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson told reporters Sunday churches were allowed to stay open. Most churches are making services available online, he said.

"Churches by and large do the right thing, they want to protect their parishioners," Hutchinson said. "There are a few that have a very small attendance and they socially distance, we don't recommend that but if it's within the guidelines then that's understandable."

Hutchinson did mention officials "had trouble with a church putting parishioners at risk" and after the health department called them, "they took the right steps and are not meeting" with a large congregation.





Well, with your stupidity, you just might get to meet your God sooner rather than later.
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No Evidence of Rapid Antiviral Clearance or Clinical Benefit with the Combination of Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin in Patients with Severe COVID-19 Infection

[snip]



There were 7 men and 4 women with a mean age of 58.7 years (range: 20-77), 8 had significant comorbidities associated with poor outcomes (obesity: 2; solid cancer: 3; hematological cancer: 2; HIV-infection: 1). At the time of treatment initiation, 10/11 had fever and received nasal oxygen therapy. Within 5 days, one patient died, two were transferred to the ICU. In one patient, hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin were discontinued after 4 days because of a prolongation of the QT interval from 405 ms before treatment to 460 and 470 ms under the combination. Mean through blood concentration of hydroxychloroquine was 678 ng/mL (range: 381-891) at days 3-7 after treatment initiation.Repeated nasopharyngeal swabs in 10 patients (not done inthe patient who died) using a qualitative PCR assay (nucleic acid extraction using Nuclisens Easy Mag®, Biomerieux and amplification with RealStar SARS CoV-2®, Altona), were still positive for SARS-CoV2 RNA in 8/10 patients (80%, 95% confidence interval: 49-94) at days 5 to 6 after treatment initiation. These virologic results stand in contrast with those reported by Gautret et al. and cast doubts about the strong antiviral efficacy of this combination. Furthermore, in their report Gautret et al also reported one death and three transfers to the ICU among the 26 patients who received hydroxychloroquine, also underlining the poor clinical outcome with this combination. In addition, a recent study from China in individuals with COVID-19 found no difference in the rate of virologic clearance at 7 days with or without 5 days of hydroxychloroquine, and no difference in clinical outcomes (duration of hospitalization,temperature normalization, radiological progression) (4). These results are consistent with the lack of virologic or clinical benefit of chloroquine in a number of viral infections where it was assessed for treatment or prophylaxis with sometimes a deleterious effect on viral replication (5-8). In summary, despite a reported antiviral activity of chloroquine against COVID-19 in vitro, we found no evidence of a strong antiviral activity or clinical benefit of the combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin for the treatment of our hospitalized patients with severe COVID-19. Ongoing randomized clinical trials with hydroxychloroquine should provide a definitive answer regarding the alleged efficacy of this combination and will assess its safety.
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Wierd, and this study says the complete opposite..

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We enrolled 36 out of 42 patients meeting the inclusion criteria in this study that had at least six days of follow-up at the time of the present analysis. A total of 26 patients received hydroxychloroquine and 16 were control patients. Six hydroxychloroquine-treated patients were lost in follow-up during the survey because of early cessation of treatment. Reasons are as follows: three patients were transferred to intensive care unit, including one transferred on day2 post-inclusion who was PCR-positive on day1, one transferred on day3 post-inclusion who was PCR-positive on days1-2 and one transferred on day4 post-inclusion who was PCR-positive on day1 and day3; one patient died on day3 post inclusion and was PCR-negative on day2; one patient decided to leave the hospital on day3 post-inclusion and was PCR-negative on days1-2; finally, one patient stopped the treatment on day3 post-inclusion because of nausea and was PCR-positive on days1-2-3. The results presented here are therefore those of 36 patients (20 hydroxychloroquine-treated patients and 16 control patients). None of the control patients was lost in follow-up. Basic demographics and clinical status are presented in Table 1. Overall, 15 patients were male (41.7%), with a mean age of 45.1 years. The proportion of asymptomatic patients was 16.7%, that of patients with URTI symptoms was 61.1% and that of patients with LRTI symptoms was 22.2%). All patients with LRTI symptoms, had confirmed pneumonia by CTScan. Hydroxychloroquine-treated patients were older than control patients (51.2 years vs. 37.3 years). No significant difference was observed between hydroxychloroquine-treated patients and control patients with regard to gender, clinical status and duration of symptoms prior to inclusion (Table 1). Among hydroxychloroquine-treated patients six patients received azithromycin (500mg on day1 followed by 250mg per day, the next four days) to prevent bacterial super-infection under daily electrocardiogram control. Clinical follow-up and occurrence of side-effects will be described in a further paper at the end of the trial.
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No Evidence of Rapid Antiviral Clearance or Clinical Benefit with the Combination of Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin in Patients with Severe COVID-19 Infection
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This study merely tells us what we already know:

Trump pills must be prescribed as soon as symptoms appear.
Once the patient needs hospitalization, they are of only limited benefit; and once the patient is on a ventilator, the Trump pills offer no benefit at all.
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So, if you treat the mild patients, they get better, but once they hit the hospital, the drug cocktail isn't effective.

I could get the same results with green M&Ms.

We need a treatment for the 20%. Or the 8% ICU patients.
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Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345
Anyone here following any of the expose stuff being done showing hospitals throughout the entire nation sitting there ... EMPTY?

The reports of nursing staff/docs from all around the entire nation being told to STFH is ... pretty interesting.

The pieces at counterpunch and nakedcapitalism on the ownership of ERs/docs by frikken hedge funds...those were eyeopening, to say the least. That Cerberus owned place in PA threatening to close if they didn't get a shit ton of money from the gov...I told hubby Cerberus sounds a lot like the mafia, lol....
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Re: COVID* STANDFORD MASK STUDY---Elsevier journal to retract widely debunked masks study whose author claimed a Stanford affiliation p345
No Evidence of Rapid Antiviral Clearance or Clinical Benefit with the Combination of Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin in Patients with Severe COVID-19 Infection
 Quoting: NawtyBits

This study merely tells us what we already know:

Trump pills must be prescribed as soon as symptoms appear.
Once the patient needs hospitalization, they are of only limited benefit; and once the patient is on a ventilator, the Trump pills offer no benefit at all.
 Quoting: BeSkeptical


So, if you treat the mild patients, they get better, but once they hit the hospital, the drug cocktail isn't effective.

I could get the same results with green M&Ms.

We need a treatment for the 20%. Or the 8% ICU patients.
 Quoting: NawtyBits


HCQ and Azinthromycin plus Zinc have had tremendous results in many trials. In the USA particulary there have been many close to death turnarounds using this therapy. A basic search supports this.
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Anyone here following any of the expose stuff being done showing hospitals throughout the entire nation sitting there ... EMPTY?

The reports of nursing staff/docs from all around the entire nation being told to STFH is ... pretty interesting.

The pieces at counterpunch and nakedcapitalism on the ownership of ERs/docs by frikken hedge funds...those were eyeopening, to say the least. That Cerberus owned place in PA threatening to close if they didn't get a shit ton of money from the gov...I told hubby Cerberus sounds a lot like the mafia, lol....
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