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Last Edited by Lago on 12/10/2020 03:53 PM

NB you still here? What about this new strain in England?

Good morning. Yes, I'm still around. Just crazy busy.

As for the UK strain, mutations are to be expected. The troubling mutation is the change to the RBD (receptor binding domain-the part of the virus that attaches itself to the ACE2 receptor.) If the RBD has shifted enough, if will allow the virus to evade the vaccine and might render any immunity from a previous infection useless against reinfection.

While this is not good news, it is to be expected. And it will happen again. And again.

I've been thinking about immunity and serology lately. I find it very troubling that we hear little to nothing about the most important part of this virus. This is something that should be at the TOP of the study list, the last study I can find was done in September, and published on Nov 24 ( 2 days before thanksgiving, presumably to be buried in all the other news noise.) This is exrememly bad news. While it's not being hidden, per se, it is certainly being intentionally ignored by the CDC, et al.


Estimated SARS-CoV-2 Seroprevalence in the US as of September 2020

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Key Points

Question What proportion of persons across 52 US jurisdictions had detectable antibodies against severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) from July to September 2020?

Findings In this repeated, cross-sectional study of 177 919 residual clinical specimens, the estimated percentage of persons in a jurisdiction with detectable SARS-CoV-2 antibodies ranged from fewer than 1% to 23%. Over 4 sampling periods in 42 of 49 jurisdictions with calculated estimates, fewer than 10% of people had detectable SARS-CoV-2 antibodies.

Meaning While SARS-CoV-2 antibody prevalence estimates varied widely across jurisdictions, most people in the US did not have evidence of previous SARS-CoV-2 infection.

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Conclusions and Relevance This cross-sectional study found that as of September 2020, most persons in the US did not have serologic evidence of previous SARS-CoV-2 infection, although prevalence varied widely by jurisdiction. Biweekly nationwide testing of commercial clinical laboratory sera can play an import

I understand this, but every virus, including the common cold, mutates again and again and again. At what point does it weaken or dissipate?

In all of this I am still not seeing anything on Ivermectin the same stuff I have been taking from the farm supply for about 4 months+.

1.87% ivermectin horse paste by body weight.

www.flccc.net for the imask protocol and an urgent call to action to give Ivermectin to the world.

Well, sometimes mutations are favorable to humans. Sometimes they aren't. People still get colds after hundreds of years. Rhinoviruses have mutated and survived for a long time. Some colds are mild, some kick your ass.

The answer to your question is, there is no "point". Mutations occur. Viruses don't mutate themselves out of existence. Some mutations are random, some occur because of outside influences.

Thank you for the response. I'm a bit concerned with the narrative that "this virus is mutating" which in my opinion is out there to terrify the masses. Thanks again.

From the beginning we have known covid 19 mutates..so why are we suppose to (trust) a vaccine. If they have a vaccine that works even on mutated viruses hydro we still have the common cold.
They change the flu shot year to year non of this makes sense to me.

bump

It certainly may mutate around the vax. It does happen.

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Large Study Identifies Greatest Risk Factors For COVID-19 Mortality

Here's the study:

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Impact of Sex and Metabolic Comorbidities on COVID-19 Mortality Risk Across Age Groups: 66,646 Inpatients Across 613 U.S. Hospitals

Here's the conclusion:

Conclusions

Hospitalized men with COVID-19 are at increased risk of death across all ages. Hypertension, diabetes with chronic complications, and obesity demonstrated age-dependent effects, with the highest relative risks among adults aged 20-39.

Hospitals are dangerous places even for healthy people.

Indeed.

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S-variant SARS-CoV-2 is associated with significantly higher viral loads in samples tested by ThermoFisher TaqPath RT-QPCR

Abstract

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Since more recent information became available regarding the presence of SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern (S-VoC), which can show a suboptimal profile in RT-QPCR tests such as the ThermoFisher TaqPath used at the majority of Lighthouse laboratories, we analysed recently published data for trends and significance of the S-gene ‘dropout’ variant.

Results showed that:

the population of S-gene dropout samples had significantly lower median Ct values of ORF and N-gene targets compared to samples where S-gene was detected

on a population basis, S-gene dropout samples clustered around very low Ct values for ORF and N targets

linked Ct values for individual samples showed that a low Ct for ORF and N were clearly associated with an S-dropout characteristic

when conservatively inferring relative viral load from Ct values, approximately 35% of S-dropout samples had high viral loads between 10 and 10,000-fold greater than 1 × 106, compared to 10% of S-positive samples.

This analysis suggests that patients whose samples exhibit the S-dropout profile in the TaqPath test are more likely to have high viral loads at the time of sampling. The relevance of this to epidemiological reports of fast spread of the SARS-CoV-2 in regions of the UK is discussed.





So this explains why B117 strain is more infectious. Sick people have much higher virus loads, and therefore are exuding more viruses. This was one of the things I thought could have been the reason.

ugh

Between 10 and 10000x higher loads? Yikes!!!!!

quoted to see the link, thanks!

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Almost a third of recovered Covid patients return to hospital in five months and one in eight die

Almost a third of recovered Covid patients will end up back in hospital within five months and one in eight will die, alarming new figures have shown....




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One in eight recovered COVID patients die from illness complications within 5 months: UK study

Almost a third of recovered COVID-19 patients in a UK study ended up back in the hospital within five months — and up to one in eight died of complications from the illness, according to a report out of the UK.

Researchers at the UK’s Leicester University and the Office for National Statistics found that out of 47,780 people discharged from the hospital, 29.4 percent were readmitted within 140 days, the Telegraph reported.

Of the total, 12.3 percent succumbed to the illness, it added.

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One-in-eight 'recovered' Covid patients 'DIE within 140 days': Study finds devastating toll on people who were hospitalised - with a THIRD readmitted within weeks

Almost a third of recovered Covid patients are readmitted to hospital within five months and up to one in eight die of Covid-related complications.

Research by Leicester University and the Office for National Statistics (ONS) found that out of 47,780 people discharged from hospital in the first wave, 29.4 per cent returned to hospital within 140 days and 12.3 per cent died.

I'm still looking for the actual study. Usually news articles have a link to studies they are writing about. Not this time.

Found it...

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It has not yet been peer reviewed.

Thanks

No link. Heard on Fox in the car.

The UK version is up to 40% deadlier that plain old covid.

So, more contagious and deadlier.

Well, at least we have that going for us.

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Boris Johnson says some evidence new Covid variant in the UK may be more deadly

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Speaking alongside Johnson on Friday, the U.K.’s chief scientific advisor, Patrick Vallance, said there is now early evidence that there’s an increased risk for those who have the new variant, compared with the old virus.

“If you took ... a man in their 60s, the average risk is that for 1,000 people who got infected, roughly 10 would be expected to unfortunately die with the virus. With the new variant, for 1,000 people infected roughly 13 or 14 people might be expected to die,” Vallance said.

Don’t viruses usually go the other way in terms of lethality? Killing the host before maximum contagiousness has been achieved is not a good plan if you’re a virus. Then again, this virus has consistently proved to be unique. Ah well. Then again, the increased lethality could actually be a sign that the UK health system can’t cope anymore. People they could once save cannot be saved anymore.

Well, going from a CFR of 1 to a CFR of 4 is statistically nothing as far as the virus is concerned. Ebola has a CFR of ~65 and it doesn't kill enough to run out of hosts.

Good point!

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Coronavirus updates: 17% of US has been infected, model estimates; Capitol Police, National Guard outbreaks reported

Approximately 17% of people in the U.S. have been infected with the coronavirus, a model by researches at the University of Washington estimates.

Current data suggests that at least 7% of Americans have tested positive for COVID-19, but the model by the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation assumes that testing isn't detecting all of the cases present in the population.

The model, updated Friday, estimates that the U.S. will report another 168,000 COVID-19 deaths before May, bringing the total to 569,000 deaths. In that period, at least 40 states will have high or extreme stress on hospital beds, and 46 will have high or extreme stress on ICU capacity, according to the model.