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COVID**** STUDY: Neuroinvasion of SARS-CoV-2 in human and mouse brain p340

 
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72% of deaths over 40 years old
40% had underlying conditions
62% males
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72% of deaths over 40 years old
40% had underlying conditions
62% males
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Shit. I'm screwed. Stop this thing now....we all know from watching movies these A**holes take too long to declare an emergency and it spreads.
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DG is trying to downplay quarantine. He looks very agitated, though. The hand-wringing is very telling
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72% of deaths over 40 years old
40% had underlying conditions
62% males
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Isn't China about 62% male after 40 years of gender-selective abortion, anyway?
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50:50 split in the committee....this means they want to declare it...but their is too much ECONOMIC pressure not to.
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I wonder if Dr. Michael Ryan is kin to Dr. Jack Ryan...
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50:50 split in the committee....this means they want to declare it...but their is too much ECONOMIC pressure not to.
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Indeed.
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coming out and just specifically saying they are quarantining 11 million would automatically cause a mass panic when people realize that possibly attempting to quarantine possibly several hundred million people all at one time is essentially saying

" We have acted far too slow "

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Lost a family member in 14 to the flu

230 people died in one county inside of one month

Barely made the news

Unless we are not being told everything

China is over reacting to the situation
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Lost a family member in 14 to the flu

230 people died in one county inside of one month

Barely made the news

Unless we are not being told everything

China is over reacting to the situation
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The enormous amount of blowback to the Chinese government from this decision, says to me that it's too late, and they are trying to appear to be doing something.

I guarantee you, the Chinese are not telling the world everything.
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Lost a family member in 14 to the flu

230 people died in one county inside of one month

Barely made the news

Unless we are not being told everything

China is over reacting to the situation
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The enormous amount of blowback to the Chinese government from this decision, says to me that it's too late, and they are trying to appear to be doing something.

I guarantee you, the Chinese are not telling the world everything.
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China does not over react to things like this.
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That presser did not leave me with a feeling of confidence.
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In about a month I'm due to go to Nanjing for three months. Nanjing is the next province over from Wuhan; I know that city, and it's a bit close for comfort.

Thanks to all for your information on this - it really does make a difference to me.
cheers

From what I've heard so far, the mortality rate is similar to Spanish 'Flu, and that's not counting the people who have just come down with it and won't survive. Mortality rates can only really be calculated after it's all settled down, and I suspect it will be higher than anticipated. If the Chinese authorities are acting so intrusively, then they're rattled. The question is: is it containable?
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The numbers tomorrow will help tell the 'tell'. If they are truthful with the WHO, then I bet they declare tomorrow.

Only time will tell the truth about this...so all we have to do is sit back and wait...and hope we don't catch it and die.
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The numbers tomorrow will help tell the 'tell'. If they are truthful with the WHO, then I bet they declare tomorrow.

Only time will tell the truth about this...so all we have to do is sit back and wait...and hope we don't catch it and die.
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Agree. I'm not sure how one can quarantine 11M people, and the WHO not declare.
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In about a month I'm due to go to Nanjing for three months. Nanjing is the next province over from Wuhan; I know that city, and it's a bit close for comfort.

Thanks to all for your information on this - it really does make a difference to me.
cheers

From what I've heard so far, the mortality rate is similar to Spanish 'Flu, and that's not counting the people who have just come down with it and won't survive. Mortality rates can only really be calculated after it's all settled down, and I suspect it will be higher than anticipated. If the Chinese authorities are acting so intrusively, then they're rattled. The question is: is it containable?
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If its human-to-human and you get some 3rd-4th generational hits...it probably isn't containable. It would be too many people/contacts to track down if it has high virulence.
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Lost a family member in 14 to the flu

230 people died in one county inside of one month

Barely made the news

Unless we are not being told everything

China is over reacting to the situation
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78371212


The enormous amount of blowback to the Chinese government from this decision, says to me that it's too late, and they are trying to appear to be doing something.

I guarantee you, the Chinese are not telling the world everything.
 Quoting: NawtyBits


Understood
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If its human-to-human and you get some 3rd-4th generational hits...it probably isn't containable. It would be too many people/contacts to track down if it has high virulence.
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That's my worry as well... and it couldn't have happened at a worse time. If you think the Christmas period is chaotic in the West, it's got nothing on the Spring Festival...
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h/t Pathfinder at FT

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Reporter: How long is the incubation period of the new coronavirus? After a person is infected, what other symptoms do they have besides fever? How to judge if it belongs to a new type of coronavirus?

Academician Li Lanjuan: When coronavirus is in SARS, the incubation period is up to 14 days. This time, according to the current patient statistics, it is estimated to be within 10 days.
However, this new type of coronavirus infection has great differences among different people after infection. Some patients have a relatively long incubation period after infection, and they develop onset in two or three days. The longest is 10 days. We estimate the incubation period to be slightly longer and set it to 14 days.

The reporter asked: Is it contagious during the incubation period?
Academician Li Lanjuan: The incubation period may now also be contagious, so this point needs to be taken very seriously, because now I also understand the situation of some patients, the patients themselves do not have fever, and those who have contacted him in the early stage have fever. People may also have infections and fevers later.

Comment: This is very ungood. Airport screening will be ineffective.
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72% of deaths over 40 years old
40% had underlying conditions
62% males
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Thanks

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Condition of flights out of Wuhan City, China, here's the Flightaware page. Last flight was an A320 to Cambodia. Theoretically 5 hours before they shut the doors... we'll see. #nCov2019
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To note however, there seems to be a flight to Achorage which departed after that.

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Reporter: How long is the incubation period of the new coronavirus? After a person is infected, what other symptoms do they have besides fever? How to judge if it belongs to a new type of coronavirus?

Academician Li Lanjuan: When coronavirus is in SARS, the incubation period is up to 14 days. This time, according to the current patient statistics, it is estimated to be within 10 days.
However, this new type of coronavirus infection has great differences among different people after infection. Some patients have a relatively long incubation period after infection, and they develop onset in two or three days. The longest is 10 days. We estimate the incubation period to be slightly longer and set it to 14 days.

The reporter asked: Is it contagious during the incubation period?
Academician Li Lanjuan: The incubation period may now also be contagious, so this point needs to be taken very seriously, because now I also understand the situation of some patients, the patients themselves do not have fever, and those who have contacted him in the early stage have fever. People may also have infections and fevers later.

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So the incubation period is NOT 14 days.
2-10 days is incubation.

That's PNEUMONIC PLAGUE.
All the symptoms, blood from nose and mouth, coma, death.
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Quebec health officials monitoring five people for possible cases of coronavirus,A sixth has tested negative for the virus and has been discharged from hospital.

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Reporter: How long is the incubation period of the new coronavirus? After a person is infected, what other symptoms do they have besides fever? How to judge if it belongs to a new type of coronavirus?

Academician Li Lanjuan: When coronavirus is in SARS, the incubation period is up to 14 days. This time, according to the current patient statistics, it is estimated to be within 10 days.
However, this new type of coronavirus infection has great differences among different people after infection. Some patients have a relatively long incubation period after infection, and they develop onset in two or three days. The longest is 10 days. We estimate the incubation period to be slightly longer and set it to 14 days.

The reporter asked: Is it contagious during the incubation period?
Academician Li Lanjuan: The incubation period may now also be contagious, so this point needs to be taken very seriously, because now I also understand the situation of some patients, the patients themselves do not have fever, and those who have contacted him in the early stage have fever. People may also have infections and fevers later.

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 Quoting: NawtyBits


So the incubation period is NOT 14 days.
2-10 days is incubation.

That's PNEUMONIC PLAGUE.
All the symptoms, blood from nose and mouth, coma, death.
 Quoting: MissCleo


Hey MC, do you have a link about the bleeding part? Thanks
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Not sure if I've seen this here.


Brazil
New suspect case.
Brazilian woman. 35 years old. Recent travel to Shanghai.
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Not sure if I've seen this here.


Brazil
New suspect case.
Brazilian woman. 35 years old. Recent travel to Shanghai.
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Ruled out. I'll try to see if I can find the link again.

Edit: could not find the link, so as of now 1 suspected case in Brazil.
hf

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Also to note, flights in and out of Wuhan still on going, despite the "quarantine".

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Also evidenced by arrivals to the airport, and scheduled departures.

Last arrival around 17 min ago.
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Also to note, flights in and out of Wuhan still on going, despite the "quarantine".

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Also evidenced by arrivals to the airport, and scheduled departures.

Last arrival around 17 min ago.
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Scheduled departures:
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I suspect there are some VIPs that don't want to be stuck in Hell.
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If they get ahold of you, you WILL be inspected at a Containment Facility.
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Reporter: How long is the incubation period of the new coronavirus? After a person is infected, what other symptoms do they have besides fever? How to judge if it belongs to a new type of coronavirus?

Academician Li Lanjuan: When coronavirus is in SARS, the incubation period is up to 14 days. This time, according to the current patient statistics, it is estimated to be within 10 days.
However, this new type of coronavirus infection has great differences among different people after infection. Some patients have a relatively long incubation period after infection, and they develop onset in two or three days. The longest is 10 days. We estimate the incubation period to be slightly longer and set it to 14 days.

The reporter asked: Is it contagious during the incubation period?
Academician Li Lanjuan: The incubation period may now also be contagious, so this point needs to be taken very seriously, because now I also understand the situation of some patients, the patients themselves do not have fever, and those who have contacted him in the early stage have fever. People may also have infections and fevers later.

Comment: This is very ungood. Airport screening will be ineffective.
 Quoting: NawtyBits


So the incubation period is NOT 14 days.
2-10 days is incubation.

That's PNEUMONIC PLAGUE.
All the symptoms, blood from nose and mouth, coma, death.
 Quoting: MissCleo


Hey MC, do you have a link about the bleeding part? Thanks
 Quoting: NawtyBits


From Jan 1
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"Unverified 1st new SARS in HK
On Telegram, hospital A&E staff were saying they admitted a patient w/ pneumonia. High fever + coughed up blood, the patient’s been to Wuhan in recent 2 weeks.

Could that be the new SARS? More info needed!"

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"It's negative for SARS, so it's still unknown disease at the moment, it could well be more dangerous than SARS...
Thanks China
(ps we can wear gas mask legally now?)"

But these guys are Hong Kong. and I can't translate Chinese.

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