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Nicotine will prevent Cytokine Storm OF CORONAVIRUS

 
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Curcumin is a main ingredient in holy anointing oil, from the cinnamon
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No, it’s cannabis, Kaneh-bosum.
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Nicotina Rustica was it. It is Real. Been 15yrs since I read a word about it. Looks as though it is a member of the Nightshade family of plants. 8-10yrs ago some were saying extracts of leaves from plants in the Nightshade family cured Skin Cancer.

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The Nicotina Rustica strain of Tobacco contains 9x the Nicotine of common Tobacco. It is what the Native Americans used.

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Nicotina Rustica was it. It is Real. Been 15yrs since I read a word about it. Looks as though it is a member of the Nightshade family of plants. 8-10yrs ago some were saying extracts of leaves from plants in the Nightshade family cured Skin Cancer.

Link: [link to www.sciencedirect.com (secure)]

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The Nicotina Rustica strain of Tobacco contains 9x the Nicotine of common Tobacco. It is what the Native Americans used.

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That is correct sir. And that plant is green. Resembles the cannabis plant somewhat.
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"No, it’s cannabis, Kaneh-bosum."

Good God, how did you know that?!
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Nicotina Rustica was it. It is Real. Been 15yrs since I read a word about it. Looks as though it is a member of the Nightshade family of plants. 8-10yrs ago some were saying extracts of leaves from plants in the Nightshade family cured Skin Cancer.

Link: [link to www.sciencedirect.com (secure)]

MAGA
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bump
 Quoting: Penny Peppers


The Nicotina Rustica strain of Tobacco contains 9x the Nicotine of common Tobacco. It is what the Native Americans used.

MAGA
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That is correct sir. And that plant is green. Resembles the cannabis plant somewhat.
 Quoting: TheBatman U.J.L.A.


I first came across it when researching Cannabis Gardening 15yrs ago.

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Not buying this! Youre not cool if you dont smoke in china. Hell surgeons perform operations with a lit cigarette hanging from their lips
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Scientific American - June 2006
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Nicotine fights inflammation

Well folks, I am a non-smoker, and I don't own or work for a tobacco company... hell, I am a healthcare worker and would gladly eliminate all tobacco products if I could. But.. that being said, there is a very interesting article on the benefits of nicotine for the downregulation of the cytokine storm that is produced in extreme inflammatory illnesses. The article describes in detail the anti-inflammatory benefits of nicotine and similar "nicotinic type" chemicals on receptors involved in inflammation.
After reading the article, It made me wonder about the use of nicotine patches in the treatment of H5N1, even if only as a last resort.
One of the reasons that I am considering this, is that pregnant women are at such high risk, due to the "cytokine storm effect" during pregnancy. Now I especially would never risk the use of any unproven medical treatment in anyone, let alone a pregnant women, but for all of us that have a pregnant daughter, wife, girlfriend, etc. would this be something that may be helpfull in a last ditch attempt to save their lives...I think I would consider it. I might even stock up on some nicotine patches in my preps.

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Very interesting. I think you’re on something. But, before everybody runs out to buy patches, do your research, talk to your Doctor.
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Talk to your doctor...rofl5
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Haha! Great idea! Talk your doctor! 'Hey doc should I start smoking as to protect myself from the coronavirus? Doc 'Um sure why not I don't see no probs with smoking.'
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Yeah that’s the last thing you really want to talk about to most people. Especially a doctor who is going to think you are out of your mind.
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I am also a light smoker (1/2 pack a day) and it did NOTHING to help prevent or alleviate the cytokine storm

Curcumin my friends!
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Good to know. I make hot chocolate and put cayenne, a little black pepper and turmeric in it.
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Make your hot chocolate with 100% pure cocoa, no sugar.

cheers
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Stevia is good as a sweetener.
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lol, one day people will found out why they finaly allowed stevia.
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Y'all crazy as fuck
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Why? Because we think outside of what our government taught us? Go be a zombie like you're best at , critical thinking is obviously not for you. Im a 49 year old female ...glp actually gave me so much health info that I became a self taught herbalist ...i started my own animal rescue and have personally treated and saved dozens of very sick animals that would have otherwise died..my limited income can't pay for vets and I get no donations way out here in the boonies..further, I once helped my friend with three types of cancer to go into remission with my knowledge of herbs and alternative medicine ....when chemo failed her...ive helped hundreds of people and aminals over the years...ive been on glp 19 years now....true story. Go ahead and see your so called doctors...they will shoot you full of poisonous vaccines for their fucking bonus check and throw some dangerous pharma drugs your way to make you stay a zombie. Call your doctor now , idiot, one less idiot in this world. Signed, halfbreedgal
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That is awesome. Way to go!!!!!

I’m constantly learning as well.
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Honey, honey.
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Beware not to consume to much honey because of it's high frutose. It's a very good natural medicine but only if you use it raw, never heat honey!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78367410


Fructose tears me up. And bloats me. Have to be on a fodmap diet.

I am taking a tablespoon of sauerkraut though for good bacteria in the morning and so far so good. Healing properties are just too good. Just have to limit problem foods. And no high fructose corn syrup or fruit juice.
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Well done! I made my own sauerkraut and take also Lactoflor probiotics, from Bulgaria. It has billions of probiotics with prebiotics, and includes Lactobaccilus Bulgaricus, it's amazing.
People, always protect and increase your immune system protection with probiotics first! Our immune system starts with a healthy gut.
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Yup. I have read our gut is our second brain. I drink 1/2 a cup of kefir a day also.
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Somehow I've known this for decades. my intuition never ceases to surprise me.
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The cytokine storm is what kills healthy people and makes them drown in their own fluids. 1918 Spanish flu, it didn’t kill old people and children. It was the cytokine storm of young healthy people that was deadly.

Suppress your own immune system
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That's probably the wrong response to this particular virus. There is no cytokine storm - it's killing primarily older victims with other health compromise:

[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]
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I suppose if the virus went after young people there would go the workforce. That is if the virus is lab grown to go after the old and sick. Who knows unless you are the ones working on it. The whole world seems like one big conspiracy.
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Y'all crazy as fuck
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Why? Because we think outside of what our government taught us? Go be a zombie like you're best at , critical thinking is obviously not for you. Im a 49 year old female ...glp actually gave me so much health info that I became a self taught herbalist ...i started my own animal rescue and have personally treated and saved dozens of very sick animals that would have otherwise died..my limited income can't pay for vets and I get no donations way out here in the boonies..further, I once helped my friend with three types of cancer to go into remission with my knowledge of herbs and alternative medicine ....when chemo failed her...ive helped hundreds of people and aminals over the years...ive been on glp 19 years now....true story. Go ahead and see your so called doctors...they will shoot you full of poisonous vaccines for their fucking bonus check and throw some dangerous pharma drugs your way to make you stay a zombie. Call your doctor now , idiot, one less idiot in this world. Signed, halfbreedgal
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I wish you were a registered member hf
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She is amazing.
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Curcumin is a main ingredient in holy anointing oil, from the cinnamon
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No, it’s cannabis, Kaneh-bosum.
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Both of you are correct, though it is a special type of cinnamon.
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I know what I'm about to say is conspiratorial theoryish type of stuff. Nevertheless, it's what I believe.

Nicotine, caffeine protects yourself from outside foreign anti-bodies from reptoids. It's the primary reason why so many kids vs. adults gets kidnapped more. Because kids don't have nicotine/caffeine in their systems, as opposed to majority of adults.

Just my 2cents. Carry on.
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I've heard that...
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Caffeine really hypes me up. Ugh.
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Nicotine is a nonselective agonist of the α7Ach receptor and is able to suppress the production of proinflammatory cytokines by mimicking the binding of acetylcholine. It has been demonstrated that nicotine can selectively reduce the inflammatory response in a number of infection scenarios

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TAKE VITAMIN B-3, NIACIN, THE FLUSH VERSION.

It work wonders.
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It is great but some people have liver trouble and have been told not to use this flush version...Maybe bad for liver?
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Good to know. I make hot chocolate and put cayenne, a little black pepper and turmeric in it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76984449


Make your hot chocolate with 100% pure cocoa, no sugar.

cheers
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Stevia is good as a sweetener.
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lol, one day people will found out why they finaly allowed stevia.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78177521


I heard in large amounts it could be a birth control but I don’t know. If I use it it is in small amounts.

So what do you know about it or do you just want to be cryptic.
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Good to know. I make hot chocolate and put cayenne, a little black pepper and turmeric in it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76984449


Make your hot chocolate with 100% pure cocoa, no sugar.

cheers
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78367410


Stevia is good as a sweetener.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76984449


lol, one day people will found out why they finaly allowed stevia.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78177521


Maybe we are just better if with a little plain white sugar since they seem to be against that.
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Good to know. I make hot chocolate and put cayenne, a little black pepper and turmeric in it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76984449


Make your hot chocolate with 100% pure cocoa, no sugar.

cheers
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78367410


Stevia is good as a sweetener.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76984449


lol, one day people will found out why they finaly allowed stevia.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78177521


Well, if you know something evil about it, why don't you share with us instead of saying bollocks?!
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Beware not to consume to much honey because of it's high frutose. It's a very good natural medicine but only if you use it raw, never heat honey!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78367410


Fructose tears me up. And bloats me. Have to be on a fodmap diet.

I am taking a tablespoon of sauerkraut though for good bacteria in the morning and so far so good. Healing properties are just too good. Just have to limit problem foods. And no high fructose corn syrup or fruit juice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76984449


Well done! I made my own sauerkraut and take also Lactoflor probiotics, from Bulgaria. It has billions of probiotics with prebiotics, and includes Lactobaccilus Bulgaricus, it's amazing.
People, always protect and increase your immune system protection with probiotics first! Our immune system starts with a healthy gut.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78367410


Yup. I have read our gut is our second brain. I drink 1/2 a cup of kefir a day also.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76984449


Yes!I'm on kefir also... lmao
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Make your hot chocolate with 100% pure cocoa, no sugar.

cheers
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78367410


Stevia is good as a sweetener.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76984449


lol, one day people will found out why they finaly allowed stevia.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78177521


I heard in large amounts it could be a birth control but I don’t know. If I use it it is in small amounts.

So what do you know about it or do you just want to be cryptic.
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Exactly what I know about it, birth control. But it has to be great amounts!!!
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I know what I'm about to say is conspiratorial theoryish type of stuff. Nevertheless, it's what I believe.

Nicotine, caffeine protects yourself from outside foreign anti-bodies from reptoids. It's the primary reason why so many kids vs. adults gets kidnapped more. Because kids don't have nicotine/caffeine in their systems, as opposed to majority of adults.

Just my 2cents. Carry on.
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I've heard that...
 Quoting: Penny Peppers


Caffeine really hypes me up. Ugh.
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Just as another tid bit...I've read several reports over the years that it's actually the phlegm response that you get from smoking also acts as an 'insulator' that inhibit's small particles from entering your blood stream by coating your lungs, and is discharged from the body by either coughing it up or swallowing it where the stomach acids destroy it.
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We have no assurance that the virus is not "created" to drive fear into us.

Fear-mongering is the modern warfare which is meant for us to further make them wealthy. When we are chuck full of their drugs we may just be open to all types of suggestions and fall for every one of their tricks. It used to be that drugs had to be tested on animals for many years before they were allowed to be used on humans. That is no longer the case. People are now the test-cases.

Soon we may get prescription drugs against global warming and be forced to take then while paying huge sums for them.

It is getting crazier and crazier out there and the masses are getting more and more gullible.

Global fear terrorism seems real.
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Complete over simplification of the process.
There are loads of types of Cytokines and various medicines can modulate the immune system and those cytokines in different ways up and down. And this can be beneficial or non beneficial at fighting different diseases.

example of various medicinal mushrooms. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
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In Spain, the Drs and Nurses are always standing out in front of the hospitals/ clinics having a smoke break.

I know an incredibly experienced Chinese Dr of Natural Chinese medicine. He smokes a few a day. Says its not bad for you.
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Beware not to consume to much honey because of it's high frutose. It's a very good natural medicine but only if you use it raw, never heat honey!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78367410


Fructose tears me up. And bloats me. Have to be on a fodmap diet.

I am taking a tablespoon of sauerkraut though for good bacteria in the morning and so far so good. Healing properties are just too good. Just have to limit problem foods. And no high fructose corn syrup or fruit juice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76984449


Well done! I made my own sauerkraut and take also Lactoflor probiotics, from Bulgaria. It has billions of probiotics with prebiotics, and includes Lactobaccilus Bulgaricus, it's amazing.
People, always protect and increase your immune system protection with probiotics first! Our immune system starts with a healthy gut.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78367410


Yup. I have read our gut is our second brain. I drink 1/2 a cup of kefir a day also.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76984449


lol kefir is very high in histamines producing bacteria. As Bulgaricus do. Histamines make your immune system overeactive
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It's why Most repair plumbers smoke
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Very interesting. I think you’re on something. But, before everybody runs out to buy patches, do your research, talk to your Doctor.
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Talk to your doctor...rofl5
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Haha! Great idea! Talk your doctor! 'Hey doc should I start smoking as to protect myself from the coronavirus? Doc 'Um sure why not I don't see no probs with smoking.'
 Quoting: TheBatman U.J.L.A.


Yeah that’s the last thing you really want to talk about to most people. Especially a doctor who is going to think you are out of your mind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76984449


Exactly! Doctors have the power to commit you to a mental institution if they don't like what you say. Then they'll send you the bill and so will the institution.
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you can buy liquid nicotine from a variety of places, even gallons of it for $$$


can be vaped alone or mixed with flavoring of choice
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Fructose tears me up. And bloats me. Have to be on a fodmap diet.

I am taking a tablespoon of sauerkraut though for good bacteria in the morning and so far so good. Healing properties are just too good. Just have to limit problem foods. And no high fructose corn syrup or fruit juice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76984449


Well done! I made my own sauerkraut and take also Lactoflor probiotics, from Bulgaria. It has billions of probiotics with prebiotics, and includes Lactobaccilus Bulgaricus, it's amazing.
People, always protect and increase your immune system protection with probiotics first! Our immune system starts with a healthy gut.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78367410


Yup. I have read our gut is our second brain. I drink 1/2 a cup of kefir a day also.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76984449


lol kefir is very high in histamines producing bacteria. As Bulgaricus do. Histamines make your immune system overeactive
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78177521


Never got histamine symptoms (runny nose or other allergic reactions) with kefir or probiotics. And many other foods have histamine... If your body cannot break it down, that is the problem.





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