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Coronavirus - Official Abstract and report. This thing has a REPRODUCTIVE FACTOR OF 4

 
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We estimate the basic reproduction number of the infection (R_0) to be 3.8 (95% confidence interval, 3.6-4.0), indicating that 72-75% of transmissions must be prevented by control measures for infections to stop increasing. We estimate that only 5.1% (95%CI, 4.8-5.5) of infections in Wuhan are identified, and by 21 January a total of 11,341 people (prediction interval, 9,217-14,245) had been infected in Wuhan since the start of the year. Should the epidemic continue unabated in Wuhan, we predict the epidemic in Wuhan will be substantially larger by 4 February (191,529 infections; prediction interval, 132,751-273,649), infection will be established in other Chinese cities, and importations to other countries will be more frequent.

(Snipped - 50% rule)

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That is higher than the Spanish flu was. Holy fuck!
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So math wise would that be around 500 dead?
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So math wise would that be around 500 dead?
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If I understood the guy that knows about this stuff here on GLP, it means that for every 1 infected, there are 4 others infected that don't know it yet.
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So math wise would that be around 500 dead?
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If I understood the guy that knows about this stuff here on GLP, it means that for every 1 infected, there are 4 others infected that don't know it yet.
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So math wise would that be around 500 dead?
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If I understood the guy that knows about this stuff here on GLP, it means that for every 1 infected, there are 4 others infected that don't know it yet.
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So math wise would that be around 500 dead?
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If I understood the guy that knows about this stuff here on GLP, it means that for every 1 infected, there are 4 others infected that don't know it yet.
 Quoting: HE-B-GB


:thiss:
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THAT..
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time will tell.


the chinese gov sure as shit isnt gonna say.
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So math wise would that be around 500 dead?
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If I understood the guy that knows about this stuff here on GLP, it means that for every 1 infected, there are 4 others infected that don't know it yet.
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So there is one in Washington and 1 in Illinois. That would be 8 unknown infected who will potentially infect 32 more and on and on.

Wonder if spring/summer will see a decrease or....

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Re: Coronavirus - Official Abstract and report. This thing has a REPRODUCTIVE FACTOR OF 4
It Means 1 Thing

The Spanish Flu had a Variance below 3.

If this Pans out into real world with air travel etc

PANDEMIC

Full Stop

Every country on earth will have an epidemic.

Not One community unless isolated will survive.

The Economy will slow down EVERYWHERE

Someone you Know, or in your family or YOU WILL DEFINATELY die from it.

It will be in 3 to 4 waves then Fizzle in 18 months to 3 years from NOW. As it becomes in the backround like other Flus etc

(though as an coronavirus will immunity be built up and depending on the mutaions it takes it may mutate to have a lower or less variance, as its just jumped species (maybe,? maybe a lab) the mutaions are more likely and continue to change until it becomes stable within the human population, which way that will go for worse, or better like previous pandemics no one knows yet, BE AWARE this is not though like H1 or H7 or any of the other H's its a differant virus displaying similair sypmtoms and causes of death...there is no real previous data, experinces or history for anyone to be SURE of whats going to happen)

Aas a Pandemic with that Variance and some reports suggest MUCH MUCH HIGHER ie 1 person infecting 14 as the Lady Doctor from The Area released in a video of the second Mutation, well then nearly everyone alive will catch it, then its down to mortality of it and your local health services if you get sever respiratory distress from it and need incubating, or a cyto storm.

Everyones lives and the world will be differant in 3 years from Now to be sure, and many will be dead unfortunately.

God Bless.

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I think this is if folks. Doom on.

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whooooooo hoooooooooooooooooo !
a reproductive factor of 4 !
and THEY EXPECT A SIMILAR CASH FLOW
at the minimum.

another load of bs.
wasn't H5N1 supposed to kill us off ?
or was IT swine flu ?
flu season ?
WHEN are the imported cases coming here ?
will THEY include the same guy not decked out in haz mat but with his clip board ?
where'd ebola disappear to ?
every year the same hysteria,hype whatever.
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whooooooo hoooooooooooooooooo !
a reproductive factor of 4 !
and THEY EXPECT A SIMILAR CASH FLOW
at the minimum.

another load of bs.
wasn't H5N1 supposed to kill us off ?
or was IT swine flu ?
flu season ?
WHEN are the imported cases coming here ?
will THEY include the same guy not decked out in haz mat but with his clip board ?
where'd ebola disappear to ?
every year the same hysteria,hype whatever.
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Mate you have no idea what you are talking about.

Look at its behaviour over just 3 weeks.

The amount of Quarantine going on in China.

This will Kill you, someone you know work with or in your family.

I state that so confidently, in 1 week from now if the stats continue as they are, I would bet everything I have on it without thinking twice.
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BS... that’s not even a real CDC site and it’s also not official
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BS... that’s not even a real CDC site and it’s also not official
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2.5 at most [link to www.USE_FULL_LINKwww.bbc.com (secure)]
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BS... that’s not even a real CDC site and it’s also not official
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Oh get a Grip

"Author Information

Jonathan M Read14 (jonathan.read{at}lancaster.ac.uk), Jessica RE Bridgen1 (j.bridgen{at}lancaster.ac.uk), Derek AT Cummings2 (datc{at}ufl.edu), Antonia Ho3 (antonia.ho{at}glasgow.ac.uk) and Chris P Jewell1 (c.jewell{at}lancaster.ac.uk)

1 Lancaster University;
2 University of Florida;
3 University of Glasgow "

Like nearly all science research and nearly ALL THAT CDC etc puts out there and the government sources it comes from researchers like this.

This is science not fake journalism using Maths and data

FFS

Sorry CNN didnt say "sources tell us"

GodBless
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In the United States, the disease was first observed in Haskell County, Kansas, in January 1918, prompting local doctor Loring Miner to warn the U.S. Public Health Service's academic journal. On 4 March 1918, company cook Albert Gitchell reported sick at Fort Riley, an American military facility that at the time was training American troops during World War I, making him the first recorded victim of the flu.[35][36] Within days, 522 men at the camp had reported sick.[37] By 11 March 1918, the virus had reached Queens, New York.[34] Failure to take preventive measures in March/April was later criticised.[4]

The second wave of the 1918 pandemic was much deadlier than the first. The first wave had resembled typical flu epidemics; those most at risk were the sick and elderly, while younger, healthier people recovered easily. By August, when the second wave began in France, Sierra Leone, and the United States,[74] the virus had mutated to a much deadlier form. October 1918 was the deadliest month of the whole pandemic.[75]
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BS... that’s not even a real CDC site and it’s also not official
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2.5 at most [link to www.USE_FULL_LINKwww.bbc.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76334491



2.5 will do it, you or your family members of collegue or friend will die form it.

um the BBC? really? jounalists who are part of the official (unoficially) mouthpiece of the government, propoganda at its best?

NO thanks

The scientists just doing the data and facts and research is where the truth not opinion is!

GodBless
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So math wise would that be around 500 dead?
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If I understood the guy that knows about this stuff here on GLP, it means that for every 1 infected, there are 4 others infected that don't know it yet.
 Quoting: HE-B-GB


thiss
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Add THIS to Coronavirus mortality rate of 51%
and it means that out those 4 stricken...
Patient #1
Patient #2
hesdeadjim #3
hesdeadjim #4
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[link to twitter.com (secure)]
"WHO REPORTS FIRST CORONAVIRUS CASE WHICH HAD NO TRAVEL HISTORY TO CHINA #nCoV2019"
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BS... that’s not even a real CDC site and it’s also not official
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It's about as legitimate as it comes....


We're NOT getting the truth from China.

There are OVER 40 MILLION PEOPLE in quarantine.

Do you Honestly think they would do that for 26 deaths and 800 infections????

This thing is way out of control and this group of doctors put together this report.

This isn't just some Youtube vlogger or someone's uncle. This is the real deal.
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BS... that’s not even a real CDC site and it’s also not official
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Oh get a Grip

"Author Information

Jonathan M Read14 (jonathan.read{at}lancaster.ac.uk), Jessica RE Bridgen1 (j.bridgen{at}lancaster.ac.uk), Derek AT Cummings2 (datc{at}ufl.edu), Antonia Ho3 (antonia.ho{at}glasgow.ac.uk) and Chris P Jewell1 (c.jewell{at}lancaster.ac.uk)

1 Lancaster University;
2 University of Florida;
3 University of Glasgow "

Like nearly all science research and nearly ALL THAT CDC etc puts out there and the government sources it comes from researchers like this.

This is science not fake journalism using Maths and data

FFS

Sorry CNN didnt say "sources tell us"

GodBless
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indeed
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So math wise would that be around 500 dead?
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Mortality rate is around 3-4%. So, 250,000 infected now means 10,000 dead so far. That probably fits in with the reports off twitter etc.
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Add THIS to Coronavirus mortality rate of 51%
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LINK-pls
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Nope, I refuse to board this hype train.

I thought we were on the ebola express? Anyone? jerkit
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FWIW I pulled the CDC reference in the title
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We estimate the basic reproduction number of the infection (R_0) to be 3.8 (95% confidence interval, 3.6-4.0), indicating that 72-75% of transmissions must be prevented by control measures for infections to stop increasing. We estimate that only 5.1% (95%CI, 4.8-5.5) of infections in Wuhan are identified, and by 21 January a total of 11,341 people (prediction interval, 9,217-14,245) had been infected in Wuhan since the start of the year. Should the epidemic continue unabated in Wuhan, we predict the epidemic in Wuhan will be substantially larger by 4 February (191,529 infections; prediction interval, 132,751-273,649), infection will be established in other Chinese cities, and importations to other countries will be more frequent.

(Snipped - 50% rule)

[link to www.medrxiv.org (secure)]

gameover
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Good paper!
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BS... that’s not even a real CDC site and it’s also not official
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2.5 at most [link to www.USE_FULL_LINKwww.bbc.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76334491


SARS was 2.5 and it wasn't airborne.

I doubt the 4.0 number is right now.

If it's engineered, the 14 number is quite possible.
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So math wise would that be around 500 dead?
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Mortality rate is around 3-4%. So, 250,000 infected now means 10,000 dead so far. That probably fits in with the reports off twitter etc.
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it's not 4%.

it's going to end up in the 10-15% range, like SARS.





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