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Staying healthy and preventing the flu

 
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First and foremost, adequate nutrition, an alkaline diet and proper gut microbiome are essential to a healthy, strong immune system.

Essential oils can help prevent flu contamination and aid in recovery from the flu. I started using "thieves oil" in 2001 while living in Phoenix. It seemed like 3/4 of the city would come down with 'the crud" after heavy chemtrail spraying, but when I started using this oil as aromatherapy and as a disinfectant agent, my husband and I never got sick.

During the Bubonic plague, a band of thieves was caught robbing the dying and the dead. Legend has it that the magistrate said he would spare their lives if they revealed how they were able to avoid catching the plague.

The graverobbers came from a family of alchemists in Persia. The thieves made infusions of herbs and then soaked a piece of fabric in the tincture which they wrapped around the head and face, as well as using it is a body splash and soaking their hands in it before heading out to a day of theft.

I am not sure if "thieves oil" is a cure or prevention for the coronavirus, but it is a good item to use to sterilize areas, such as door knobs, telephones, counters, even hands and feet. Many school teachers swear by this concoction given the contagions they are exposed to every day. Fill a spray bottle with alcohol (10% of volume), water, and thieves oil (cinnamon, clove, eucalyptus, rosemary, lemon) and use it liberally. Many essential oils are toxic to cats, so if you use the spray indoors or on your hands, make sure to keep the spray away from areas where the cats sleeps and do not pet the cat with essential oil residue on your hands.

This site below has a nice, non-commercial explanation of how and why thieves oil works.

[link to blog.paleohacks.com (secure)]

A side note: It is alleged that during the Spanish Flu outbreak, no one working with cinnamon (processing plant) developed the flu. Cinnamon has an anti-inflammatory effect and blocks the flu pathogen from spreading. A cup of cinnamon tea with honey every day is supposedly one of the best ways to keep the body healthy.

Curcuma, found in turmeric, is also anti-inflammatory. Turmeric and ginger tea is an excellent anti-arthritis, anti-inflammatory remedy that also boosts the immune system.

Simmer fresh turmeric and ginger root (sliced/cubed, 1/4 cup each) and a little black pepper for 20 minutes. Add raw honey if you need a sweetener, but wait until the tea cools to less than 108 degrees so as not to destroy the benefits of the honey. You can substitute 2 teaspoons of ground turmeric, but make sure it is organic.

This is an excellent iced tea for those who like the flavor of turmeric and a good drink to have around during flu season.

Both cinnamon and turmeric teas are excellent for oral health. Add a healthy fat (tablespoon of coconut milk, fresh avocado) to your diet when drinking the tea, as curcuma needs a soluble fat to help absorb the nutrition.
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the chinese virus isnt the flu, which is influenza virus, its corona virus which is structurally similar to the common cold, alphacorona virus, rhinovirus and adenovirus, the plague was a bacterium yersinia pestis.

What helps to prevent and manage one will not help prevent another.
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Also viruses are not alive, they are literally just attachment proteins and in the case of corona virus, it doesnt even have DNA, they dont self replicate so anti microbial surfaces such as silver, copper wont particulary help.

What will help is ionizing radiation, disinfectant and heat to destroy the virion structure and RNA inside.
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the chinese virus isnt the flu, which is influenza virus, its corona virus which is structurally similar to the common cold, alphacorona virus, rhinovirus and adenovirus, the plague was a bacterium yersinia pestis.

What helps to prevent and manage one will not help prevent another.
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Thieves oil is anti-bacterial, anti-fungal, and anti-viral. It works on all levels and in synergy with with the body, killing the harmful elements which strengthens the natural immune system.
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Also viruses are not alive, they are literally just attachment proteins and in the case of corona virus, it doesnt even have DNA, they dont self replicate so anti microbial surfaces such as silver, copper wont particulary help.

What will help is ionizing radiation, disinfectant and heat to destroy the virion structure and RNA inside.
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There is some research to suggest UVC broad spectrum can disrupt virus structure without being too dangerous to cellular structure.
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the chinese virus isnt the flu, which is influenza virus, its corona virus which is structurally similar to the common cold, alphacorona virus, rhinovirus and adenovirus, the plague was a bacterium yersinia pestis.

What helps to prevent and manage one will not help prevent another.
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Thieves oil is anti-bacterial, anti-fungal, and anti-viral. It works on all levels and in synergy with with the body, killing the harmful elements which strengthens the natural immune system.
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Ok cool, good luck with that.
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The lab i used to work at used stuff like trigene spray for disinfecting.
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the chinese virus isnt the flu, which is influenza virus, its corona virus which is structurally similar to the common cold, alphacorona virus, rhinovirus and adenovirus, the plague was a bacterium yersinia pestis.

What helps to prevent and manage one will not help prevent another.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78344784


Thieves oil is anti-bacterial, anti-fungal, and anti-viral. It works on all levels and in synergy with with the body, killing the harmful elements which strengthens the natural immune system.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


Chinese Five-Spice Powder is essentially Thieves oil in raw form. Cook it with sugar/sweet to make nice sauce. Can buy huge bags at chinese stores. Method to their madness.

[link to www.drweil.com (secure)]

Staple food at my house whenever the boy catches a cold from school vaccine shedding (other kid's snot). If really bad use Andrographis Paniculata super herb.
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And you may need to ask the final question..



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Re: Staying healthy and preventing the flu
the chinese virus isnt the flu, which is influenza virus, its corona virus which is structurally similar to the common cold, alphacorona virus, rhinovirus and adenovirus, the plague was a bacterium yersinia pestis.

What helps to prevent and manage one will not help prevent another.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78344784


Thieves oil is anti-bacterial, anti-fungal, and anti-viral. It works on all levels and in synergy with with the body, killing the harmful elements which strengthens the natural immune system.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


Chinese Five-Spice Powder is essentially Thieves oil in raw form. Cook it with sugar/sweet to make nice sauce. Can buy huge bags at chinese stores. Method to their madness.

[link to www.drweil.com (secure)]

Staple food at my house whenever the boy catches a cold from school vaccine shedding (other kid's snot). If really bad use Andrographis Paniculata super herb.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57700421



^ Star anise is the major source of the chemical compound shikimic acid, a primary precursor in the pharmaceutical synthesis of the antiinfluenza drug, oseltamivir (Tamiflu). An industrial method for the production of shikimic acid using fermentation of E.
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Re: Staying healthy and preventing the flu
the chinese virus isnt the flu, which is influenza virus, its corona virus which is structurally similar to the common cold, alphacorona virus, rhinovirus and adenovirus, the plague was a bacterium yersinia pestis.

What helps to prevent and manage one will not help prevent another.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78344784


Thieves oil is anti-bacterial, anti-fungal, and anti-viral. It works on all levels and in synergy with with the body, killing the harmful elements which strengthens the natural immune system.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


Ok cool, good luck with that.
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It's not luck; it's nature. They are the original medicines. Cinnamon oil kills viruses on contact. Lemon oil kills MSRA within an hour of contact.

I wrote this in part for the coronavirus, but also because it seems like there is another flu epidemic in the US and these tips might help someone from catching it.

A thieves oil spay bottle is a lot cheaper and environmentally friendly than a bottle of Lysol. A strong immune system is better than a weak one if exposed to the virus, so why not make an effort to get the body ready to battle the virus?
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Re: Staying healthy and preventing the flu
the chinese virus isnt the flu, which is influenza virus, its corona virus which is structurally similar to the common cold, alphacorona virus, rhinovirus and adenovirus, the plague was a bacterium yersinia pestis.

What helps to prevent and manage one will not help prevent another.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78344784


Thieves oil is anti-bacterial, anti-fungal, and anti-viral. It works on all levels and in synergy with with the body, killing the harmful elements which strengthens the natural immune system.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


Chinese Five-Spice Powder is essentially Thieves oil in raw form. Cook it with sugar/sweet to make nice sauce. Can buy huge bags at chinese stores. Method to their madness.

[link to www.drweil.com (secure)]

Staple food at my house whenever the boy catches a cold from school vaccine shedding (other kid's snot). If really bad use Andrographis Paniculata super herb.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57700421



^ Star anise is the major source of the chemical compound shikimic acid, a primary precursor in the pharmaceutical synthesis of the antiinfluenza drug, oseltamivir (Tamiflu). An industrial method for the production of shikimic acid using fermentation of E.
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Thank you for mentioning that.
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i Love the smell of Thieves oil, but do not believe in its medicinal powers.

But, a lot do, and is why essential oils are starting to be no better than big pharma in my opinion.

To each their own though, and if you think it’s helping you, then that’s half the battle.
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I thought that this isn't the flu but pneumonia.
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An excellent explanation from the Herbal Prepper (2014):

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Herbs and Essential Oils to Fight Coronaviruses, Part 1


* The similarities between SARS and MERS mean that herbs that are effective for SARS are most likely effective for MERS.

* Herbs long-used for comfort measures against influenza would likely be effective to provide comfort against MERS

* Addressing pre-existing conditions with herbs is likely a good way to prevent a mild case of MERS from becoming a serious case or worse, a fatality.

* Herbs with strong anti-viral properties that also protect against cytokine storms would be very useful.
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I started mulberry extract pills about a month ago. Along with raw garlic and ginger root, so far so good. Been doing the same for years. Last flu I had was in the 90s.
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An excellent explanation from the Herbal Prepper (2014):

[link to www.herbalprepper.com (secure)]


Herbs and Essential Oils to Fight Coronaviruses, Part 1


* The similarities between SARS and MERS mean that herbs that are effective for SARS are most likely effective for MERS.

* Herbs long-used for comfort measures against influenza would likely be effective to provide comfort against MERS

* Addressing pre-existing conditions with herbs is likely a good way to prevent a mild case of MERS from becoming a serious case or worse, a fatality.

* Herbs with strong anti-viral properties that also protect against cytokine storms would be very useful.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


Thank you.
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Very short sighted of everyone. China has thousands of years of herbs and spice history. They can’t stop it.

Pray to God! If it is your time, your ticket will be punched.
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Some off the wall ideas,

I used to go to the sauna when I had the flu
Raise your body temperature. Kills the virus

If your lungs are filling with fluid,
Try inversion therapy.
I have done this a few times so that gravity helped clear my lungs.

I was never healthier in my life than when I was working
as a commercial diver in contaminated environments
Cleanliness leads to poor immune system
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Very short sighted of everyone. China has thousands of years of herbs and spice history. They can’t stop it.

Pray to God! If it is your time, your ticket will be punched.
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Yet many Chinese do not use their traditional medicines now. Also, there is massive air pollution, environmental poisoning, EMFs, modern food, and stressful lifestyles that make it difficult to combat illnesses.

We also do not know how many in the quarantined areas have started using herbs and oils to prevent or cure the coronavirus.
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What kills you with this - cytokine storm
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the chinese virus isnt the flu, which is influenza virus, its corona virus which is structurally similar to the common cold, alphacorona virus, rhinovirus and adenovirus, the plague was a bacterium yersinia pestis.

What helps to prevent and manage one will not help prevent another.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78344784


Thieves oil is anti-bacterial, anti-fungal, and anti-viral. It works on all levels and in synergy with with the body, killing the harmful elements which strengthens the natural immune system.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


Chinese Five-Spice Powder is essentially Thieves oil in raw form. Cook it with sugar/sweet to make nice sauce. Can buy huge bags at chinese stores. Method to their madness.

[link to www.drweil.com (secure)]

Staple food at my house whenever the boy catches a cold from school vaccine shedding (other kid's snot). If really bad use Andrographis Paniculata super herb.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57700421


Green tea works like tamiflu as well.
^ Star anise is the major source of the chemical compound shikimic acid, a primary precursor in the pharmaceutical synthesis of the antiinfluenza drug, oseltamivir (Tamiflu). An industrial method for the production of shikimic acid using fermentation of E.
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Very short sighted of everyone. China has thousands of years of herbs and spice history. They can’t stop it.

Pray to God! If it is your time, your ticket will be punched.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78360655


Take vitamin d. Most people are low in it in the winter. Even in summer. It winter is worse of course. It will slow down a cytokine storm. Just don’t overdose on it. Moderation.
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Some off the wall ideas,

I used to go to the sauna when I had the flu
Raise your body temperature. Kills the virus

If your lungs are filling with fluid,
Try inversion therapy.
I have done this a few times so that gravity helped clear my lungs.

I was never healthier in my life than when I was working
as a commercial diver in contaminated environments
Cleanliness leads to poor immune system
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41749951


Antihistamines will help to dry up fluid in lungs. Take it at first signs of sickness. Non drowsy during the day of course.
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What kills you with this - cytokine storm
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An that is where plants and essential oils come in.

This is from [link to www.turmericforhealth.com (secure)] . Although this excerpt is about Ebola, anything that inhibits the inflammatory cytokines should help a patient suffering from a cytokine storm or prevent cytokine production.

"Curcumin, the principle polyphonyolic compound in turmeric, can help In getting rid if Ebola.

At the terminal stage, there is an increased secretion of inflammatory cytosine by the immune system of the patient’s body. This is known as a ‘cytokine storm’.

Curcumin inhibits the production of inflammatory cytokines like Interleukin-1, Interleukin-6, and also Tumor-necrosis factor alpha."

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My secret weapon is home made organic oregano oil. It works.
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My secret weapon is home made organic oregano oil. It works.
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I have seen several recipes for thieves oil using oregano instead of rosemary.
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What kills you with this - cytokine storm
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There was a paper on this like 20 years ago when you could get that kind of info on Google. You can't find anything alternative now not approved by WEB MD.
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If you want to the alt medicine stuff, go to Brave browser.

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I have used Thieves Oil for years, but op I think the most important oil to have is Oreganol P73 extra strength. Together they will do the job. I cured my mom of skin cancer with Oreganol P73.
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OOPs, check the archives tab. All the way back to 1997, til 2019. From Europe.





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