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So, if you were to "escape" the U.S., what country would you go to?

 
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I just want to escape New York. ( Sick York )
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You should go to the USA if you are in California.
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I just want to escape New York. ( Sick York )
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You too should move to America.
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Arizona, but please leave your socialist/commie/progressive shit behind...

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I'm not a socialist or commie or progressive, so no problem.

But again that is not a foreign country.


It would not be my first choice for another state, but I have nothing against it.

I was really looking at other countries though.


I did live outside the US for five years in South Korea and returned in 2012.


It was a nice country and a positive experience.


Clean, relatively crime-free, very conservative culture in many ways for those interested.
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum

just remember that anywhere you go "out of country" the locals will target you.

As an American you will be a big target. For some it will be hate, for some they will believe you have hidden riches.
It won't be all the locals, just the criminal ones.

So they will probably kill you, slowly, with a lot of pain.

Which is why I do not suggest trying to "run away".
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Guernsey (/ˈɡɜːrnzi/ ; Guernésiais: Guernési) is an island in the English Channel off the coast of Normandy. It lies roughly north of Saint-Malo and to the west of Jersey and the Cotentin Peninsula. With several smaller nearby islands, it forms a jurisdiction within the Bailiwick of Guernsey, a British Crown dependency. The jurisdiction is made up of ten parishes on the island of Guernsey, three other inhabited islands (Herm, Jethou and Lihou), and many small islets and rocks.
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You should go to the USA if you are in California.
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If I were young and single with no responsibilities I would have left already.


Bottom line, I have an elderly mother and stepfather here, a home and a child in school. It isn't that easy.
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any warm gulf coast area and have a nice big cabin cruiser.
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Seriously, everyone talking about leaving the US to go to let's say South America, are in for a FUCKING rude awakening when things go sideways.

You are free to do as you please, but you will be a target in your non native land.

I would recommend finding the most free state in the US instead and then make sure you don't change it into the shit hole you just left.

You're welcome, and Shabbat Shalom...

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this. people think their gringo tourist experience speaks of actual living.....
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Re: So, if you were to "escape" the U.S., what country would you go to?
Just curious.


Right now, I just want to escape California.



Please explain your choice.



How would you know it wouldn't be a case of "out of the frying pan and into the fire"?
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


If you want to "escape" America, do it. GTFO!

WE will fix this shit.
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Re: So, if you were to "escape" the U.S., what country would you go to?
Just curious.

Right now, I just want to escape California.

Please explain your choice.

How would you know it wouldn't be a case of "out of the frying pan and into the fire"?
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


Already did it. I went to Colombia, best decision I ever made. Here are 10 reasons but I could probably list 50.

1. Libertarian society. Do whatever you want. You can buy any med you want over the counter (antibiotics, narcotics, anything).

2. There are no laws. Pass over the double yellow line, no cop hiding in the bushes to pull you over. No cops in general, really. If you do find yourself talking to one, they'll try to diffuse and resolve, not treat you like a mass of meat.

3 It's CHEAP. You can easily live on $1000 per month. Some people live on half that and live just fine.

4. Land is plentiful and cheap. Go to Antioquia, you can buy acres of land in the mountains for nothing.

5. Temperature is the same all-year round. Up in the mountains of Antioquia, that means high of 78 and low of 60. Aside from the nice climate, that means fruits and vegetables grow all year round. It's always growing season!

6. It's way off the map. If there's a global war, economic breakdown, etc - you are far away from ground zero. No one cares about South America.

7. It's safe. But people who are mind controlled and watch TV (Narcos, for example) don't think it is, so it keeps the idiots away

8. If you're male and single, the most beautiful women on earth and they love American men

9. No blackouts, great infrastructure. I have fiberoptic internet in my mountain home. Because most energy is the result of hydroelectric power (lots and lots of rivers and waterfalls), you won't lose power, ever...

10. It's close to the US. If you decide to go back, even for a weekend, it's a 3 hour flight and about $300 via VivaColombia airlines
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Colombia?

uhhhnooo
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Just curious.


Right now, I just want to escape California.



Please explain your choice.



How would you know it wouldn't be a case of "out of the frying pan and into the fire"?
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


If you want to "escape" America, do it. GTFO!

WE will fix this shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77897481

You
You know you won't. It's already too late and "the times they are a'changing"4.
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Wakanda, I would take my Maxine and we would enjoy all of that high tech and vibranium for ourselves.
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Wakanda, I would take my Maxine and we would enjoy all of that high tech and vibranium for ourselves.
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Surprising all of the posts were not unanimously the kingdom of Wakanda.
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Re: So, if you were to "escape" the U.S., what country would you go to?
Just curious.


Right now, I just want to escape California.



Please explain your choice.



How would you know it wouldn't be a case of "out of the frying pan and into the fire"?
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


If you want to "escape" America, do it. GTFO!

WE will fix this shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77897481


Did I say I wanted to?
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Keep searching money pit, then move.
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Wakanda, I would take my Maxine and we would enjoy all of that high tech and vibranium for ourselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78279511


I heard white people are not welcome there? ;)

xxxcite
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Bulgaria

Cheap
Fun
In Europe
Amazing food, truly
Beautuful mountains,
green,
on the Black sea,
Lakes
Rivers
There’s even a small desert
Rich culture
People speak English everywhere

You can buy an apartment for a very low price, this is the capital city prices:
[link to imoti-sofia.imot.bg (secure)]

Plenty of smaller cities oround the contry with jaw dropping prices .
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Wakanda, I would take my Maxine and we would enjoy all of that high tech and vibranium for ourselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78279511


Surprising all of the posts were not unanimously the kingdom of Wakanda.
 Quoting: RepublicofTexas


It would be hard to find now. I think they turned their fucking invisible shield back on and said FUCK THIS SHIT!!! Also, I happen to be white and my kind are not welcome.

afro
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I'm from Detroit...


As for Wakanda...


TS-fugetaboutit
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Bulgaria

Cheap
Fun
In Europe
Amazing food, truly
Beautuful mountains,
green,
on the Black sea,
Lakes
Rivers
There’s even a small desert
Rich culture
People speak English everywhere

You can buy an apartment for a very low price, this is the capital city prices:
[link to imoti-sofia.imot.bg (secure)]

Plenty of smaller cities oround the contry with jaw dropping prices .
 Quoting: Lilac.Nights


And how will little Bulgaria fare in the next global financial or military interruption?

They've been a "stable" country for what now, 15 minutes?
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I'm from Detroit...


As for Wakanda...


TS-fugetaboutit
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Lol shit man you've already had the Wakanda experience then!
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Just curious.


Right now, I just want to escape California.



Please explain your choice.



How would you know it wouldn't be a case of "out of the frying pan and into the fire"?
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


Why does your ip say Canada if you're in Kommiefornia? Exactly what part of Kommiefornia do you live?

I started planning my escape from Kommiefornia about 6 yrs ago. Looked at many places throughout Latin America (Belize, Costa Rica and Panama), South America (Bolivia, Ecuador, Argentina and Chile).

However, most of my employment required travel throughout East and Southeast Asia (Seoul, Taipei, Hong Kong, Singapore and Manila). Out of all these, Philippines was the most affordable on a fixed income for retirement.

In August 2015, my former employer offered me an early retirement option, which I gladly accepted. I initially had plans to bring my foreign spouse to the US. Instead, when I learned she was pregnant with my child, I chose to move to the Philippines.

I live "out in the province" about 100 mi (160 km) North of Metro Manila in the middle of a large agricultural region. My spouse's family have many farms in area, we also live within a 30 min drive or half day's walking distance of Ft. Magsaysay.

This is also a strategic location in the event the SHTF scenario. We can get on base, I also have contacts with the 82nd Airborne and SPECOP's on TDY as military advisers. Same ones I used to test and train use on C4I systems. Since both me and my son are US citizens, my foreigner spouse (refugee status) can get 'Space A' evac on C-130 or other transport to safe location.

Another is that we can survive on any of my spouses family farms. Along with rest of area, they are good bug out locations well away from population centers and the ability to defend with neighbors.

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Probably as an American the easiest would be to escape to one of those bahama territories that are part of USA, or Hawaii - otherwise you'd have to go through the whole immigration process or risk being an illegal alien and deported
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78302339


Where there is a will there is a way.

Also, where there is money.
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


Yes, but you'd need to go to a Caucasian country, else the locals will take you out pretty quickly in a collapse of society.. In the same way that in a collapse, lots and lots of immigrant looking folk will get murdered for no reason in USA, right? You know it's true!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78302339


This 100%.

Anyone thinking about going anywhere where the people don't look like you...

God have mercy on your soul...

Read the horror stories of Costa Rica (just one example I hear ALL THE TIME) and tell me if you think that's the kind of place you'd want to be if their government ever collapsed or there were massive global interruptions.
 Quoting: Lumberghini


Been in Costa Rica ten years. The people here love me. You must act like an asshole where ever you go and nobody likes an asshole. Pura Vida
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Just curious.


Right now, I just want to escape California.



Please explain your choice.



How would you know it wouldn't be a case of "out of the frying pan and into the fire"?
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


Why does your ip say Canada if you're in Kommiefornia? Exactly what part of Kommiefornia do you live?

I started planning my escape from Kommiefornia about 6 yrs ago. Looked at many places throughout Latin America (Belize, Costa Rica Panama), South America (Bolivia, Ecuador, Argentina and Chile).

However, most of my employment required travel throughout East and Southeast Asia (Seoul, Taipei, Hong Kong, Singapore and Manila). Out of all these, Philippines was the most affordable on a fixed income for retirement.

In August 2015, my former employer offered me an early retirement option, which I gladly accepted. I initially had plans to bring my foreign spouse to the US. Instead, when I learned she was pregnant with my child, I chose to move to the Philippines.

I live "out in the province" about 100 mi (160 km) North of Metro Manila in the middle of a large agricultural region. My spouse's family have many farms in area, we also live within a 30 min drive or half day's walking distance of Ft. Magsaysay.

This is also a strategic location in the event of if the SHTF scenario. We can get on base, I also have contacts with the 82nd Airborne and SPECOP's on TDY as military advisers. Same ones I used to test and train use on C4 systems. Since both me and my son are US citizens, my foreigner spouse (refugee status) can get 'Space A' evac on C-130 or other transport to safe location.

Another is that we can survive on any of my spouses family farms. Along with rest of area, they are good bug out locations well away from population centers and the ability to defend with neighbors.
 Quoting: Agent MIB


Not everyone has those types of connections. Glad you are squared away.

hf
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Just curious.


Right now, I just want to escape California.



Please explain your choice.



How would you know it wouldn't be a case of "out of the frying pan and into the fire"?
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


Why does your ip say Canada if you're in Kommiefornia? Exactly what part of Kommiefornia do you live? I suspect this is post is for collecting info or trolling.

I started planning my escape from Kommiefornia about 6 yrs ago. Looked at many places throughout Latin America (Belize, Costa Rica Panama), South America (Bolivia, Ecuador, Argentina and Chile).

However, most of my employment required travel throughout East and Southeast Asia (Seoul, Taipei, Hong Kong, Singapore and Manila). Out of all these, Philippines was the most affordable on a fixed income for retirement.

In August 2015, my former employer offered me an early retirement option, which I gladly accepted. I initially had plans to bring my foreign spouse to the US. Instead, when I learned she was pregnant with my child, I chose to move to the Philippines.

I live "out in the province" about 100 mi (160 km) North of Metro Manila in the middle of a large agricultural region. My spouse's family have many farms in area, we also live within a 30 min drive or half day's walking distance of Ft. Magsaysay.

This is also a strategic location in the event of if the SHTF scenario. We can get on base, I also have contacts with the 82nd Airborne and SPECOP's on TDY as military advisers. Same ones I used to test and train use on C4 systems. Since both me and my son are US citizens, my foreigner spouse (refugee status) can get 'Space A' evac on C-130 or other transport to safe location.

Another is that we can survive on any of my spouses family farms. Along with rest of area, they are good bug out locations well away from population centers and the ability to defend with neighbors.
 Quoting: Agent MIB

High Desert


And I just wanted a conversation.


No biggie


I'm not putting a gun to anybody's head to respond.


Not trolling. Not data-mining.

As for my IP, ask Charter. I don't get it either.


Philippines is cool.


Gotta watch oout for Muzzz and commies in some parts.


My first copy of Sun Tzu was my sister-in-laws.


Her brother, a commie guerilla had given it to her and she gave it to me.

My brother was married to a Filipina.



Cheers.
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Where there is a will there is a way.

Also, where there is money.
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


Yes, but you'd need to go to a Caucasian country, else the locals will take you out pretty quickly in a collapse of society.. In the same way that in a collapse, lots and lots of immigrant looking folk will get murdered for no reason in USA, right? You know it's true!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78302339


This 100%.

Anyone thinking about going anywhere where the people don't look like you...

God have mercy on your soul...

Read the horror stories of Costa Rica (just one example I hear ALL THE TIME) and tell me if you think that's the kind of place you'd want to be if their government ever collapsed or there were massive global interruptions.
 Quoting: Lumberghini


Been in Costa Rica ten years. The people here love me. You must act like an asshole where ever you go and nobody likes an asshole. Pura Vida
 Quoting: CR Gringa 29000883


Yeah, until they don't love you, or rebels decide to stir shit up. Glad it is working out for you so far.

hf
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My Swiss-German ancestor, btw, was my great-grandmother. She died before I was born.


She worked in a chocolate factory in Detroit. She was my dad's favorite grandma. He probably got a lot of free chocolate!
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


that's interesting. there's a lot of great chocolate here...
actually, it kind of happened by accident. but after finding out how great things are here compared to so many other places in the world, i realized that i just accidentally hit the lottery.

i realize there are no 100% certainties, but things have been pretty good here for the many, many years i've been here. at the same time, i've seen my family and friends in the states succumb to more and more problems. it's sad, and scary to witness, and i don't think i would have seen it as clearly if i wasn't looking from the outside in, if that makes any sense.
with that said, i still love my homeland USA and root for trump to continue to turn things around.
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Hope you're getting paid in local currency my friend. I had a fabulous time in Gryon at Christmas what an amazing country. Until the way home and I said to the Mrs, "oh let's just eat at Burger King" on our way home at Geneva train station..... Two Whoppers and fries and two cokes : £34 Ouch!
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Bulgaria

Cheap
Fun
In Europe
Amazing food, truly
Beautuful mountains,
green,
on the Black sea,
Lakes
Rivers
There’s even a small desert
Rich culture
People speak English everywhere

You can buy an apartment for a very low price, this is the capital city prices:
[link to imoti-sofia.imot.bg (secure)]

Plenty of smaller cities oround the contry with jaw dropping prices .
 Quoting: Lilac.Nights


And how will little Bulgaria fare in the next global financial or military interruption?

They've been a "stable" country for what now, 15 minutes?
 Quoting: Lumberghini


Bulgaria is one of the oldest countries in Europe, 1300 years old. Been trough many financial and military “interruptions”. Small is not aways bad.
You can buy land and be independent. The mountainous terrain is not good for military action, the soil is very rich on the other hand.
Lots of water.
You can buy a whole village there for yourself lol
For example Plovdiv is one of the oldest continuously occupied cities in the world, 8000 years old or so... still there, better then ever.





GLP