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Pandemic coronavirus simulations 2001 - 2019 Overview, personal thoughts and notes

 
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Travel across China is falling sharply, according to state-run media. Yesterday vs. last year:
- By water: -83.6%
- By road: -70.3%
- By train: -62.2%
- By air: -42.8%


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And the World Health Organization stays invisible

Who? WHO! Who?? WHO!!.. well..

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Thanks Mezzo.

Will you estimate how much time we have.
I suspect it's 5 days.

Flashpoint when Corona appeared was mid-December.
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Two more reports to post in pdf format:

1) A World At Risk, by the Global Preparedness Monitoring Board (under the umbrella of WHO and Word Bank), published in September 2019, which warned that

"..an outbreak equivalent to the 1918 influenza pandemic could kill an estimated 50 to 80 million people, spreading around the world in less than 36 hours and wiping out nearly five percent of the global economy.."

48 pages read, but by scrolling through it quite easy to read, so recommended:

[link to apps.who.int (secure)]

the report is also available here:

[link to apps.who.int (secure)]

Another fact: It is the first report of this board

2) Preparedness for a High-Impact Respiratory Pathogen Pandemic by Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, also published in September 2019

snippet

"..In 1918, the global case fatality ratio is estimated to have been 2.5%, but it was considerably greater in low- and middle-income countries, with some estimates exceeding 10%. Today, some high-income countries would be expected to fare much better because of modern health care, but the case fatality in countries with limited access to healthcare could be as bad as or worse than 1918.
Simple arithmetic would suggest the possibility of 100 to 400 million deaths if a 1918-like pandemic were to occur today, but unprepared or under-resourced health systems could further exacerbate disease transmission through nosocomial spread and an inability to promptly diagnose and render care, a particular concern for developing health systems..."

84 pages read, worth scanning or reading in full:

[link to apps.who.int (secure)]

The report is also available here (in various languages):

[link to www.centerforhealthsecurity.org]

Again two reports, one month before Event 201 and 3 months before the current outbreak. What are the odds?
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Thank you for doing this research. Much appreciation for the links hf

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Thanks Mezzo.

Will you estimate how much time we have.
I suspect it's 5 days.

Flashpoint when Corona appeared was mid-December.
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Hey Miss Cleo hugs

This is what I replied on that question earlier in the thread:

First, let me say that I am not an expert and secondly, that we do not know whether this current outbreak leads to a global pandemic. Your guess is as best as mine.

Having said that, based on the Event 201 time line cases increased to 1 million in 6 weeks in many countries. So we would take 31 December as a start, that would mean we would reach that number around 14 February. Even at at 3% fatality rate that still means 30K death.

There was word that the daily cases of the current virus increase by 35% each day. I made a calculation for that:

Thread: Covid19/2021-22 OMICRON/ VIRUS "IHU" FRANCE:P13310/NEWEST VIRUS: "NEOCOV" HIGH INFECTION RATE+1 IN 3 DIE !?! P13315 (Page 243)

But as said, based on a number that was going around. No factual truth.

If those numbers are true, by the time we reach mid February, there will be travel restrictions and serious shortage of health care. Health care staff will not be able to keep up, also due to the fact there is no vaccine.

People's trust in reliable info will be at a low point, the economy will start to crash in several areas, beginning in low income countries, leading to social unrest etc. So you can imagine that in such case, people will be stocking up between now and 14 February.

But as said, based on the simulation. I believe the coming week or two will be crucial. But it is never a bad idea to be prepared. IF there is a run on stock, you might not be in time.

I don't want to be a doom thinker. Just practical. That is why I keep saying this is based on a simulation. We have yet to see real proof of a pandemic evolving. But it is never bad to prepare now.

There is a preparation thread by Trinity here:
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Later today I will shed my light on the possibility that maybe Clade X might be the better scenario to compare with, since based on several connecting factors one can argue that this current outbreak is a realtime play out of a test run with a man made virus.

But that will be a what if scenario.. ;-)

Edit: Will do this tomorrow. Something else came up.

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Thank you for doing this research. Much appreciation for the links hf

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You are most welcome my friend. hf
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Drastic times require NEW IDEAS. Pick a nice island with nice hotels, evacuate island of all the well people and make them comfy on mainland. Put your sick people (that will include nurses, doctors, and medical supplies) on that island. AirDrop all the supplies. Treat them nice, give them luxury. Patients need the ultraviolet light of natural sunshine to heal NOT A HOSPITAL.

For God’s sake quit putting them in hospitals and foaming the doors shut and wasting resources, exposing healthy care workers! This would be CHEAPER AND MORE HUMANE THAN A HOSPITAL. The warm sunny weather would do them good.

We need a radical change in thinking. Save the hospitals for the normal stuff, do not overwhelm them.

THIS IS NOT A JOKE, I AM FOR REAL, THIS WILL WORK. Then you don’t have to quarantine any more cities and destroy economies.

This is not a “draconian measure” suggested by experts that only think traditionally. This is humane....sunshine, fresh air, and total quarrentine.
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Drastic times require NEW IDEAS. Pick a nice island with nice hotels, evacuate island of all the well people and make them comfy on mainland. Put your sick people (that will include nurses, doctors, and medical supplies) on that island. AirDrop all the supplies. Treat them nice, give them luxury. Patients need the ultraviolet light of natural sunshine to heal NOT A HOSPITAL.

For God’s sake quit putting them in hospitals and foaming the doors shut and wasting resources, exposing healthy care workers! This would be CHEAPER AND MORE HUMANE THAN A HOSPITAL. The warm sunny weather would do them good.

We need a radical change in thinking. Save the hospitals for the normal stuff, do not overwhelm them.

THIS IS NOT A JOKE, I AM FOR REAL, THIS WILL WORK. Then you don’t have to quarantine any more cities and destroy economies.

This is not a “draconian measure” suggested by experts that only think traditionally. This is humane....sunshine, fresh air, and total quarrentine.
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I don't want to ridicule your post, but how do you deal with the dead? And how big of an Island should it be in case of a pandemic? And what do we do with the healthy people?

If the number of cases keeps growing and mortality rate is say 3 to 5%, that is quite an industry you need. Within no time you will be out of space, the beauty will fade and the troubles will start.

Sounds a bit like a Stepford Wives idea.



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Even though I do agree that sunshine and fresh air gives energy and healing power. But if you are sick to death, does that really make you feel better? hf
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Drastic times require NEW IDEAS. Pick a nice island with nice hotels, evacuate island of all the well people and make them comfy on mainland. Put your sick people (that will include nurses, doctors, and medical supplies) on that island. AirDrop all the supplies. Treat them nice, give them luxury. Patients need the ultraviolet light of natural sunshine to heal NOT A HOSPITAL.

For God’s sake quit putting them in hospitals and foaming the doors shut and wasting resources, exposing healthy care workers! This would be CHEAPER AND MORE HUMANE THAN A HOSPITAL. The warm sunny weather would do them good.

We need a radical change in thinking. Save the hospitals for the normal stuff, do not overwhelm them.

THIS IS NOT A JOKE, I AM FOR REAL, THIS WILL WORK. Then you don’t have to quarantine any more cities and destroy economies.

This is not a “draconian measure” suggested by experts that only think traditionally. This is humane....sunshine, fresh air, and total quarrentine.
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I don't want to ridicule your post, but how do you deal with the dead? And how big of an Island should it be in case of a pandemic? And what do we do with the healthy people?

If the number of cases keeps growing and mortality rate is say 3 to 5%, that is quite an industry you need. Within no time you will be out of space, the beauty will fade and the troubles will start.

Sounds a bit like a Stepford Wives idea.



[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Even though I do agree that sunshine and fresh air gives energy and healing power. But if you are sick to death, does that really make you feel better? hf
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Sharks n crabs like the dead.
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Closing notes:

The above events and scenarios may be fictional, but they can serve as a blueprint in case of an actual pandemic situation. It might read as a fiction book or movie, but in fact it is a very scary situation, that in reality may lead to widespread disaster. My basic goal is not to scare anyone or be a disaster tourist, but to make people aware of how fast a local disease can lead to a global pandemic. Either man made or spread through animals.

What struck me most in these events is the following:
Governments talk a lot, but are not ready for events like these.
When push comes to shove, it is mostly each for their own.
Private and public sector interests are (still) miles apart.
Vaccine production is NOT a priority, financially driven.
Governments unable to coop with speed pandemic.
World Health Organisation (WHO) is basically invisible.
WHO is subjective to governments’ political agenda.
Honest, speedy information is not a quality (to say the least.)

And there for sure are much more remarks to make, subjective and objective, about communication, internet, social media, the causes of the current outbreak etc. Everyone has their own opinion on that and is entitled to it. But keep it clean. Like my other threads, I will not tolerate insulting or name calling. Discuss, but in a respectful and mature way.

I myself am left with the feeling that in case such a pandemic will occur, we need to rely on our own circle of influence rather than trusting the governments, but also be aware of false information spread by those who have no other goal than to spread chaos.

My friends, apart from the current situation, we live in challenging times. Mother Nature is angry, earthquakes, volcanoes, floods. Drums of war. People are angry and divided, often not even knowing why or triggered by the immature, subjective political climate (no matter what side of the spectrum.)

But this world is not all bad. Not by far. Just look around you. Your neighbor of so many years is still the same neighbor, whether you like him or not. We can still laugh about silly stuff, play our music, live our lives the way we do. We do have happy times, even though spending to much time online might make you think otherwise.

We need to help those we can help and make them aware and prepare for what might come. If it doesn’t happen, no harm done, right? All the better! There is nothing lost in preparation, but also not in putting people at ease, lending them an ear or a shoulder or whatever help they can use. We all live on this piece of rock together, so we better make the most of it.

So take care of yourself and each other!hf
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Huh?
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very good find this clade x feels like a think tank on how to place blame and control the situation
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For who ever is interested or wants to bookmark it:

I created google doc regarding the progress of the coronavirus, with tables and graphs on official numbers as given by the World Health Organisation. Link:

[link to docs.google.com (secure)]

It contains three tabs (you can find them in the bottom):

- Number of confirmed cases and deaths China and Global.
- Graph confirmed cases and deaths China and Global.
- Graph Increase in percentage compared to the previous day + number of countries.

Source:
[link to gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com (secure)]

Other source:
[link to bnonews.com (secure)]

I will update this a few times a day for the coming time. Even though these numbers are most likely too low in my opinion, it at least gives an idea of the trend and the spreading of the virus.

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Thanks, Mezzo. Those graphs really put the situation into perspective. Not frightening, but we need to be watchful.

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Sorry if already posted, this link is handy also for tracking..

Each case has a source link

[link to bnonews.com (secure)]

below map. and sorted by date.

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Sorry if already posted, this link is handy also for tracking..

Each case has a source link

[link to bnonews.com (secure)]

below map. and sorted by date.
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Thanks Tangy. hugs

I will use that link probably, since they seem to update more often than the other one.
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Thanks, Mezzo. Those graphs really put the situation into perspective. Not frightening, but we need to be watchful.

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Cross reference thread about Corona Virus, containing a strain of Nipah Virus and a theory about A Brighter Dawn, the simulation terrorist group, founded in the USA, as used in Event Clade X:

Thread: Corona Virus, Nipah Virus and A Brighter Dawn. Man made. Theory or reality?

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And the World Health Organization stays invisible

Who? WHO! Who?? WHO!!.. well..

:AliWHO:
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Isn't the WHO partial owner of the patent on the Coronavirus? Also Bill and Melinda .....?
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Okay OP, let's continue with video two, of the 2019 simulation of pandemic. This virus they call "CAPS" and the second video is number two "Trade and travel"

Here is the main site as linked by you, thanks.

[link to www.centerforhealthsecurity.org]

So interestingly enough, the current nCov2019 outbreak, is right about here as described in the video. Mass closures of travel, clearly a huge hot spot in Wuham, with very little communication from the top. Video discusses how their idiotic ideas, which got us into this mess, will somehow get us out. Fascinating video.

One note on how shitty corporations and "work as a concept" actually are. Managers are shit in America, I never had one IU respected. Work is still essentially slavery, and so people will easily decouple from it and not go back. Managers, if they had been skilled, could already have us working at home. I worked at home in IT capacity (support) but where it fails, is at the management level. Since the boards always hire the most loathesome men as maangers, to do top down style management, hire foreigners as a final slap in the face to the national workforce, etc, wel, when you have a manager core like that, you have very little skill to manage people remotely. Bad managers cannot manage people at home, they need you to be right there under their thumb. This is just one key fail point on all these smart bubbleheads' ideas, no one can work at home if there is no trust between employer and employee. What's the solution, to have linkedin put a camera in your home? It's one step away, camera in the home for you to get the work at home job. Tyranny creeps like water.

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kay so if you watch video two, I can basically summarize it like this "The companies with power will be given more power" ...Listening to this delphic anemic tabletop gathering of fluffed birds, is depressing, unless one worships corporations as most people do. The key point here is toward the end, 1: Man says "Let's just let the G20 Finance group make this call" and also other guy says "Security of whatewver super-companies we decide to make, out of this event, needs to be a priority." I am paraphrasing but counter me if you think I am framing them wrong. What we have here is a bunch of camera-struck people, parroting lines they really have very little faith in. OIn of the guys actually laughs nervously when he says "We have to start building things we've never thought of in terms of relationships between powerful groups and corporations" again I paraphrase but that's what was said here.

If you want to ask _me_ what I think is needed, lok back to page three or whatever, where I asked OP if a hobbit style pastoral life would be okay with him. I think the survivors, will eventually just watch the companies fail and die, and we would transform backwardly toward simple illegal activities, like raising animals and having a shire. I know there will be lots of work opportunities and being paid in goods and personal bonds, will be superior. I guess I am saying this is all ash before the wind, but its fun to watch, eh OP?
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Oh also I should add video 2 above, delphically the host at 22:00 in floats the "Will we need to have government bailouts?" innertube of corporate flight. So, the workers will be dying slaves while the corporate model of shedding liability, which is a diseased model, long term it will kill your country, particularly in INTL form of corporatism, shedding corporate liability on a grand scale, is what "bailouts" are all about. Kinda of a prostitute starting out in the morning charging 100 bucks a fuck, and then by noon she's fucking 10 guys at once for her dinner. That is what this bailout model causes, to use a crude national hokker analogy.

Heh, so, on to video three, and we hope the managers of your country, hire your own countrymen, because inside the USA they can hire anyone ion the world, to replace us, no laws exist to protect the worker's job itself, indeed "employers" would laugh cry and shit, if you told them it was harder to fire people. They, being poor managers, will always call the worker lazy.

Video three, supposed week three of the virus outbreak. Bear in mind at this time, we are at 45 days, since they are now revealing slowly that wuhan virus escaped at dec 15th or thereabouts, so this shit is for real, and you need to get much better threads, full round tables going. This delphic shit is not a round table.

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video 3 discussion space described:

1 mil cases 73k deaths worldwide (estimates)
5.5 mil cases suspected
3 mo projection 3 million deaths.

I love the cough at 1:37 I could loop that and laugh all day. Then MD Dave Gamble, heh HILARIOUS

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So, if you do not understand what the term 'delphic discussion' means, well at 2:00 for video three above, it's the literal definition of delphic discussion. A moderator, and two experts, agree on key points, there is no discussion. Having these be actors, only deepens the trance-attrachment to the truth presented. Strategically done, the delphic discussion done by top teir nwo actors like this, will put 90% of people to sleep.

The moderator comes in to shuffle the discussion ahead. We have already seen hoime loans completely bailed out, those rich pos still walk the streets. So, even if there is civil war, probably the masses won't even understand who the enemy was. Bernie madoff lived at home, like a maggot shrieking at his wife, they were taped at home, being just horrible people. They robbed, Corzine robbed, Robbery is called leadership initiative on this world circa 2020. At 9:00 in here discusses "business too big to fai;l and nations failing will get loans" --from whom will they get loans?

world bank and imf are taken as defacto solvers of these problems, and yet they impoverished the nations they loaned to, particularly in this diseased light. Would we ever be able to get true and real money back? "The mark of the beast" as some expect to see. IMO it could simply be a vaccine tattoo, as we see that model used in mad max:fury road, max is back-tatted with his blood type, capture info, pedigree so to speak,. this is all tattoo'd on his back. So, if they have streamlined it that well in a mad max future, surely it will be used in ours, before we get to mad max?
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Closing notes:

The above events and scenarios may be fictional, but they can serve as a blueprint in case of an actual pandemic situation. It might read as a fiction book or movie, but in fact it is a very scary situation, that in reality may lead to widespread disaster. My basic goal is not to scare anyone or be a disaster tourist, but to make people aware of how fast a local disease can lead to a global pandemic. Either man made or spread through animals.

What struck me most in these events is the following:
Governments talk a lot, but are not ready for events like these.
When push comes to shove, it is mostly each for their own.
Private and public sector interests are (still) miles apart.
Vaccine production is NOT a priority, financially driven.
Governments unable to coop with speed pandemic.
World Health Organisation (WHO) is basically invisible.
WHO is subjective to governments’ political agenda.
Honest, speedy information is not a quality (to say the least.)

And there for sure are much more remarks to make, subjective and objective, about communication, internet, social media, the causes of the current outbreak etc. Everyone has their own opinion on that and is entitled to it. But keep it clean. Like my other threads, I will not tolerate insulting or name calling. Discuss, but in a respectful and mature way.

I myself am left with the feeling that in case such a pandemic will occur, we need to rely on our own circle of influence rather than trusting the governments, but also be aware of false information spread by those who have no other goal than to spread chaos.

My friends, apart from the current situation, we live in challenging times. Mother Nature is angry, earthquakes, volcanoes, floods. Drums of war. People are angry and divided, often not even knowing why or triggered by the immature, subjective political climate (no matter what side of the spectrum.)

But this world is not all bad. Not by far. Just look around you. Your neighbor of so many years is still the same neighbor, whether you like him or not. We can still laugh about silly stuff, play our music, live our lives the way we do. We do have happy times, even though spending to much time online might make you think otherwise.

We need to help those we can help and make them aware and prepare for what might come. If it doesn’t happen, no harm done, right? All the better! There is nothing lost in preparation, but also not in putting people at ease, lending them an ear or a shoulder or whatever help they can use. We all live on this piece of rock together, so we better make the most of it.

So take care of yourself and each other!hf
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Excellent post OP - thank you! I wish more people thought like you in these divisive times.

hf





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