WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month

I've been away from the thread longer then usual.


I want to thank everyone for their support, especially those that answered some of the questions, while I have been away.

Red Hot Chilean Pepe, among others, did a good job keeping the thread alive and civil.



One of the reasons I have been away is that the father of a close friend of my brother, got the bug, 3 days ago. The friend visited my brother and his family a week before his father got rushed to the hospital, with clear symptoms of covid-19.


Now I am expecting to see if the friend is also positive, which is most likely to be the case, since he almost daily have been in contact with his parents.


Anyway, this is on the personal side of the reasoning I have been away.


The other reason is the U.S. riots. Can't call them protests, obviously. I started working on my model after China locked-down Wuhan. Up until that point, the virus was just another SARS for me. But Wuhan lock-down was the moment I realized that this virus is serious.


Same with U.S. riots. I haven't paid much attention to them, thinking that it's just another riot because some white cop killed some black guy.


However, the riots become painfully obvious that are not the same as the previous riots, and I tried to understand why and if the pandemic have a role in this DIFFERENCE between current riots and the previous ones.



Sometime back in March, I think at the end of March, I said that the Mad Max scenario can be postponed or accelerated by events that are unpredictable. The world-wide lock-downs were somehow predictable, but the length and the severity of the lock-down were not.


Because of the lock-downs, the Mad Max scenario was postponed, and I think everyone agrees with that. The economic fallout of the lock-downs is YET to be felt, we can only see that cases in the countries that had a lock-down are dropping fast, which on the disease front is (partially) good news.


Why partially? Simply because it is short term. The effects of lifting the lock-downs will be felt, as I previously said, even up to 6 weeks later, depending on many factors.

A small example would be Georgia lifting the lock-downs 1 month ago, but Atlanta only days ago. The biggest city and capital of Georgia, which would account for most covid-19 infections, was still in lock-down last week.


At this point in time, I believe that the pandemic is the only factor that made the current riots in the U.S. spread so fast, last so long (and might potentially last WEEKS from now) and have much more people rioting then before.

First, because of the pandemic, a lot of people in the U.S. lost their job, and tens of thousands more are losing it on a daily basis in the U.S.

Secondly, after 2 months of restrictions, tons of people are among the rioters, simply because they want to lose some of the energy that they got during the lock-downs.

Thirdly, tons of other people, who lost their income, are among the rioters.


Then there is the omnipresent antifa.

And ultimately, the black people, who are rioting because they don't know other way.


There are more reasons why the current riots in the U.S. are different.


HOWEVER, this is not the bad part. The bad part is that the timing of killing Floyd came at the worst possible time : during a pandemic that is FAR from over and in the early stages of the economic collapse, which already started.


I do not know how the things will evolve (or rather, devolve) in the U.S., but I can tell you one thing : if the second wave of the pandemic starts during the current riots, which will be MUCH WORSE in the next days, the U.S. government might potentially lose partial or even total control of the country.


Now, this scenario will happen if, and only if :

1.the second wave starts in the next 2-4 weeks.

2.the government implements (or attempts to) another nation-wide lock-down.


The current riots can end TODAY, it won't matter at all, if the U.S. government chooses a new nation-wide lock-downs. The riots will restart, and when they do, it will be anarchy, because most of the rioters will be working people, facing with imminent loss of their job, adding more fuel and human power to the already tens of millions that are out of the job.


Many people will see the second lock-down as a reason to stop the protests, and not the virus, many others as a government conspiracy to enslave us, the leftists will see it as an attempt of Trump to take control of the democrat ruled cities, etc. etc.


There will be way to many people and the riots will be orders of magnitude bigger then what is currently taking place in the U.S., and the entire country might fall to anarchy, which will make things worse on ALL FRONTS : pandemic, economic and political.


And from anarchy to Mad Max scenario, in current conditions (pandemic + economic collapse) is just a step.


But let's hope that the U.S. government and Trump are smart enough to avoid a nation-wide lock down before the second wave becomes more painful then the riots, because if they do it before, virtually everyone will see it as an attempt to stop the riots / enslaving us / etc.


Will see how things go, but I am afraid that the U.S. government will be too enticed to use the pandemic to stop the riots, because I can tell you one thing : the current riots will not end this week, and will get both bigger and more violent.


A U.S. collapse, both economic and social will almost instantly led to a worldwide collapse, also economic and social....and this during a pandemic that didn't even fully hit us, looking at the measly 7-8% of people that contracted the virus to date.


Fingers crossed that this scenario will not happen, but I am afraid that many "actors" are working hard to make it happen.

What easing?


China still in lock-down, even if it's not a severe one, like they had before.


And this is why no second wave in China : they are still in lock-down.


Same with east Asia. Still in a form of lock-down.

Opee, the Mayor of Sacramento admitted on his tadio address laying out hit “reopening plan” that there are only 3 (THREE!!) covid pts. In ICU IN ALL OF SACRAMENTO COUNTY

Buh buh butt you said our “entire healthcare statem would be in systemic collapse by now”

Its FAKE PEOPLE
WAKE THE FUCK UP

THIS IDIOT WORKS FOR THEM

THE NOTHINGBURGERES ARE RIGHT AGAIN

I don't think we're at mad max yet, at least not because of the economy and covid-19.

once there is no food and the economies of the world crash, after the second wave hits, then all bets are off as to what could happen.

Hi DR, what do you think about Italy with only 60 deaths and 200 new infecteds yesterday, same infected from Spain, they are saying that the virus is not more a pandemic there and is all in control.

Lol china only shut down for 18 days you ignorant fools.
They are ARE WIDE OPEN

I've been away from the thread longer then usual.


I want to thank everyone for their support, especially those that answered some of the questions, while I have been away.

Red Hot Chilean Pepe, among others, did a good job keeping the thread alive and civil.



One of the reasons I have been away is that the father of a close friend of my brother, got the bug, 3 days ago. The friend visited my brother and his family a week before his father got rushed to the hospital, with clear symptoms of covid-19.


Now I am expecting to see if the friend is also positive, which is most likely to be the case, since he almost daily have been in contact with his parents.


Anyway, this is on the personal side of the reasoning I have been away.


The other reason is the U.S. riots. Can't call them protests, obviously. I started working on my model after China locked-down Wuhan. Up until that point, the virus was just another SARS for me. But Wuhan lock-down was the moment I realized that this virus is serious.


Same with U.S. riots. I haven't paid much attention to them, thinking that it's just another riot because some white cop killed some black guy.


However, the riots become painfully obvious that are not the same as the previous riots, and I tried to understand why and if the pandemic have a role in this DIFFERENCE between current riots and the previous ones.



Sometime back in March, I think at the end of March, I said that the Mad Max scenario can be postponed or accelerated by events that are unpredictable. The world-wide lock-downs were somehow predictable, but the length and the severity of the lock-down were not.


Because of the lock-downs, the Mad Max scenario was postponed, and I think everyone agrees with that. The economic fallout of the lock-downs is YET to be felt, we can only see that cases in the countries that had a lock-down are dropping fast, which on the disease front is (partially) good news.


Why partially? Simply because it is short term. The effects of lifting the lock-downs will be felt, as I previously said, even up to 6 weeks later, depending on many factors.

A small example would be Georgia lifting the lock-downs 1 month ago, but Atlanta only days ago. The biggest city and capital of Georgia, which would account for most covid-19 infections, was still in lock-down last week.


At this point in time, I believe that the pandemic is the only factor that made the current riots in the U.S. spread so fast, last so long (and might potentially last WEEKS from now) and have much more people rioting then before.

First, because of the pandemic, a lot of people in the U.S. lost their job, and tens of thousands more are losing it on a daily basis in the U.S.

Secondly, after 2 months of restrictions, tons of people are among the rioters, simply because they want to lose some of the energy that they got during the lock-downs.

Thirdly, tons of other people, who lost their income, are among the rioters.


Then there is the omnipresent antifa.

And ultimately, the black people, who are rioting because they don't know other way.


There are more reasons why the current riots in the U.S. are different.


HOWEVER, this is not the bad part. The bad part is that the timing of killing Floyd came at the worst possible time : during a pandemic that is FAR from over and in the early stages of the economic collapse, which already started.


I do not know how the things will evolve (or rather, devolve) in the U.S., but I can tell you one thing : if the second wave of the pandemic starts during the current riots, which will be MUCH WORSE in the next days, the U.S. government might potentially lose partial or even total control of the country.


Now, this scenario will happen if, and only if :

1.the second wave starts in the next 2-4 weeks.

2.the government implements (or attempts to) another nation-wide lock-down.


The current riots can end TODAY, it won't matter at all, if the U.S. government chooses a new nation-wide lock-downs. The riots will restart, and when they do, it will be anarchy, because most of the rioters will be working people, facing with imminent loss of their job, adding more fuel and human power to the already tens of millions that are out of the job.


Many people will see the second lock-down as a reason to stop the protests, and not the virus, many others as a government conspiracy to enslave us, the leftists will see it as an attempt of Trump to take control of the democrat ruled cities, etc. etc.


There will be way to many people and the riots will be orders of magnitude bigger then what is currently taking place in the U.S., and the entire country might fall to anarchy, which will make things worse on ALL FRONTS : pandemic, economic and political.


And from anarchy to Mad Max scenario, in current conditions (pandemic + economic collapse) is just a step.


But let's hope that the U.S. government and Trump are smart enough to avoid a nation-wide lock down before the second wave becomes more painful then the riots, because if they do it before, virtually everyone will see it as an attempt to stop the riots / enslaving us / etc.


Will see how things go, but I am afraid that the U.S. government will be too enticed to use the pandemic to stop the riots, because I can tell you one thing : the current riots will not end this week, and will get both bigger and more violent.


A U.S. collapse, both economic and social will almost instantly led to a worldwide collapse, also economic and social....and this during a pandemic that didn't even fully hit us, looking at the measly 7-8% of people that contracted the virus to date.


Fingers crossed that this scenario will not happen, but I am afraid that many "actors" are working hard to make it happen.

The only thing that might increase about this pandemic from here on out, is opportunistic doctors that are declaring fake covid-19 reports so they can get covid-19 money from the government for their hospital. (similar to what's already happened only more futile attempts).

I am thinking that they are bullshiting. I do believe the numbers are low, but not that low. As for the pandemic is over and all is in control...I still have some neurons left to see that this is plain propaganda.


But, as I said, I am patiently waiting for mid-June to end of June (depending on when countries reopened) when I can bet that numbers and reality will (like in March) do not match.

We have had no new cases of COVID in NZ for 11 days & only one active case.

Besides strong border and travel restrictions, things will be going back to fairly normal for New Zealand on Monday. The economy has taken a beating, but we will get through that...slowly.

Trumps ignoring of advice from experts and his advisors & the following complete failure to act appropriately, is why the US is in this position.

Donald Trump has effectively destroyed your country. Yet people still support him?

Its complete insanity.

OP continues to delete any comments that call him out on his complete and utter BS predictions that have failed to amount and are falling apart at the seams.

To buy a little more time, he is taking advantage of the US riots, trying to equate them to his 'predictions.'

It's total BS. OP's theory has failed to amount. The virus is not coming back for a second wave.

OP will most likely delete this thread, because he can't handle any opposition on this thread. If any of what he said was true, he would let this comment sit on the thread, so he could prove me wrong when the time comes.

But he knows there is no truth in what he has predicted.

Hi DR,

Thanks for all your work on this thread.

Question: What do you make of the vaccine trials? Many companies are predicting they will have vaccine ready for population by later this year? Even Pentagon agrees.

Is this just wishful thinking--giving hope to the masses, or do you think this is a possibility?

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Riots in Paris, now.



Another sign that Mad max scenario is closing in.



Too many people are out of job, and more are "joining" every day.


Soon, the food prices will rise, and the riots will be widespread.


Floyd death was but a spark.

No

DR, what do you make of this?
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OP continues to delete any comments that call him out on his complete and utter BS predictions that have failed to amount and are falling apart at the seams.

To buy a little more time, he is taking advantage of the US riots, trying to equate them to his 'predictions.'

It's total BS. OP's theory has failed to amount. The virus is not coming back for a second wave.

OP will most likely delete this thread, because he can't handle any opposition on this thread. If any of what he said was true, he would let this comment sit on the thread, so he could prove me wrong when the time comes.

But he knows there is no truth in what he has predicted.

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Pretty much the same is happening now : downplaying the virus because the economy must restart. Sadly, the economy isn't restarting and it won't restart before the wave 2 starts, which is about 2-4 weeks away, depending on when the reopening took place.

All eyes on new Zealand.

The test we all been waiting for.

New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern says her government is set to remove social distancing rules from next week.

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