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WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month

 
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I think we got ourselves a Bozzonaro shill in this thread.
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Strongest argument ever! Congratulations!
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I was joking, no need to get all hyped up. You are basically touting the Brazilian president’s official propaganda, while Brazil has the official second highest death toll from the Pandemic in the world, not even India is in that position, so your words sound as hollow as the official Brazilian propaganda.
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No, my words are the OFFICIAL words of the notaries of the contry. You speak spaninh, so you understand portuguese, take a look again:

[link to transparencia.registrocivil.org.br (secure)]
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Whatever the rate at which the victims of the pandemic in your country die, the total amount is 52K already. In the roughly 100 days since things begun to happen, that las 520 per day. And that is official statistics. Notaries don’t capture the whole then.
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[link to noticias.uol.com.br (secure)]

For those who do not understand Portuguese, the article says that the field hospital built in a football stadium will close on June 30, because there are no patients. The number of ICU inmates in São Paulo is dropping dramatically. This hospital cost R$ 50 million (U$ 10 million), has been a nothinburguer since the beginning, I haven't visited this thread in over a month and it is unbelievable that OP is still doing his fearmongering.
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I'm glad you feel comfortable in showing your ignorance regarding to linear and exponential growth. I'm sure you'll get far with that level of education! Best of luck in the future, try not to run out of oxygen! (not in the world but in your blood)

-Edit- Added the underlined words, My post made no-sense without them
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I didn't mention mathematics, I just put a newspaper article that shows the obvious. But, if you want math: There is no exponential growth,not even linear, otherwise hospitals would be full instead of empty. Below, the REAL data from the "pandemic" in Brazil.

These are the actual numbers of deaths in Brazil.

[link to transparencia.registrocivil.org.br (secure)]

Click on the "Óbito" option. The total number of deaths does not reach 100 per day across the country, and the graph clearly shows that the peak was on May 14, these are the concentrated data from the 7672 notary offices in the country.
The media wants people to believe that the accumulated death records of an entire week are considered deaths in a single day. This is simply a lie, fantasy. If you believe MSM, you are a MORON, nothing more to say.
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The fact that one hospital is closing down does not mean the problem is still not present. It only means that in that particular zone it has been deemed there is no need for that structure right now.
The site [link to transparencia.registrocivil.org.br (secure)] gives data about the dead by covid 19. The real problem, as it has always been said in this thread is not the number of deaths, but the number of ICU necessary for those who get sick. As anyone can see here: [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)]
the number of cases is on a constant rise, as they are in all the countries in the world. The only ones under-reporting the cases in an absurd way are Italy and Spain.

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Dr it seems the whole world is swimming in covid except China and Europe. How long do you think it could last??
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bump for op update

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Italy has outbreaks in Bologna, Roma, Caserta, Calabria (not to mention Lombardia)
The biggest part of the infected are asymptomatic, but the asymptomatics are not tested, so I fear that the infected are many many more
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Dr it seems the whole world is swimming in covid except China and Europe. How long do you think it could last??
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I have no idea what is going on in China, no matter what they say.


As for Europe, I would say we got like a month left, more like 3 weeks. It is fairly difficult to predict now how the pandemic will evolve in Europe.


When I predicted that a resurgence of the first wave, or the second wave, to start between mid to end of June, I did for the whole world. I didn't knew where it will happen first, because unlike January, when the world was 100% open to the virus, this time, we are coming after a 2 month long lock-down, after many people realized this is not a joke, and they reduced drastically their exposure to others, they wear masks (which are what we should all do), and such, this time around it will take LONGER before we will feel (not see in numbers) the impact.


Europe was hard hit, and unlike the U.S. there are many more people who wear masks, even if not enough. Many European countries are still keeping hard measures in place, others are in early stages of reopening.


All these reasons are making difficult to predict when Europe will see the second wave (in the Western part of Europe) or the resurgence of the first wave (Central and Eastern Europe).


What is certain is that Europe, just like the U.S., will face multiple epicenters this time. Except New-York, the U.S. was hardly affected in the first time. Basically, the U.S. had one single epicenter. Now, the U.S. have at least 4 of them.


But the U.S. is on the path to double this number, and it will do it quite soon. By mid-July, the U.S. will have around 8 areas that will be similar to Arizona or Texas.


Europe had basically 2 epicenters : Lombardy and Madrid.Next wave (or resurgence) will have more then that, like A LOT many more, and this is because the virus is kinda equally spread across Europe, the time for an epicenter to form will take longer then the U.S., but Europe will have at least 15 epicenters in August.


I think Europe have slightly more time then the U.S. (which was about 4 to 6 weeks after reopening), probably around 8-10 weeks, starting from May 15th, which means that by mid-July, Europe will see multiple epicenters forming.


What I can say with high certainty, is that Madrid and Lombardy will not be among these epicenters in Europe.



The bad news is that once the cold season starts in Europe, the number of epicenters will be so high (the U.S. will also have a lot more epicenters) that almost every area will have or be next to an epicenter.



We should all enjoy this "pause" and use it to prep for winter.


I hope the virus will mutate into a weaker strain, but the current mutations are taking place among the young and healthy, not old and sick, and the virus primary function (to multiply) is drastically affected by the stronger immune system of the young, hence, the current mutations will tend to make the virus BETTER at fighting the stronger immune systems.

We are in an intermediate phase now, many asymptomatic cases, lower ratio of hospitalizations / cases, but that it is because the virus is in the early stages of mutating. Give it one more month, and the virus will fully mutate.

It's what a virus does, before running out of hosts : become BETTER at multiplying, which will lead to asymptomatic cases disappear by the end of year, simply because being better at multiplying means being better at destroying the cells the virus uses to multiply, which means that the hosts will present symptoms...which means we will need more hospital beds and ICU beds.

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Dr it seems the whole world is swimming in covid except China and Europe. How long do you think it could last??
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I have no idea what is going on in China, no matter what they say.


As for Europe, I would say we got like a month left, more like 3 weeks. It is fairly difficult to predict now how the pandemic will evolve in Europe.


When I predicted that a resurgence of the first wave, or the second wave, to start between mid to end of June, I did for the whole world. I didn't knew where it will happen first, because unlike January, when the world was 100% open to the virus, this time, we are coming after a 2 month long lock-down, after many people realized this is not a joke, and they reduced drastically their exposure to others, they wear masks (which are what we should all do), and such, this time around it will take LONGER before we will fell (not see in numbers) the impact.


Europe was hard hit, and unlike the U.S. there are many more people who wear masks, even if not enough. Many European countries are still keeping hard measures in place, others are in early stages of reopening.


All these reasons are making difficult to predict when Europe will see the second wave (in the Western part of Europe) or the resurgence of the first wave (Central and Eastern Europe).


What is certain is that Europe, just like the U.S., will face multiple epicenters this time. Except New-York, the U.S. was hardly affected in the first time. Basically, the U.S. had one single epicenter. Now, the U.S. have at least 4 of them.


But the U.S. is on the path to double this number, and it will do it quite soon. By mid-July, the U.S. will have around 8 areas that will be similar to Arizona or Texas.


Europe had basically 2 epicenters : Lombardy and Madrid.Next wave (or resurgence) will have more then that, like A LOT many more, and this is because the virus is kinda equally spread across Europe, the time for an epicenter to form will take longer then the U.S., but Europe will have at least 15 epicenters in August.


I think Europe have slightly more time then the U.S. (which was about 4 to 6 weeks after reopening), probably around 8-10 weeks, starting from May 15th, which means that by mid-July, Europe will see multiple epicenters forming.


What I can say with high certainty, is that Madrid and Lombardy will not be among these epicenters in Europe.



The bad news is that once the cold season starts in Europe, the number of epicenters will be so high (the U.S. will also have a lot more epicenters) that almost every area will have or be next to an epicenter.



We should all enjoy this "pause" and use it to prep for winter.


I hope the virus will mutate into a weaker strain, but the current mutations are taking place among the young and healthy, not old and sick, and the virus primary function (to multiply) is drastically affected by the stronger immune system of the young, hence, the current mutations will tend to make the virus BETTER at fighting the stronger immune systems.

We are in an intermediate phase now, many asymptomatic cases, lower ratio of hospitalizations / cases, but that it is because the virus is in the early stages of mutating. Give it one more month, and the virus will fully mutate.

It's what a virus does, before running out of hosts : become BETTER at multiplying, which will lead to asymptomatic cases disappear by the end of year, simply because being better at multiplying means being better at destroying the cells the virus uses to multiply, which means that the hosts will present symptoms...which means we will need more hospital beds and ICU beds.
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Hello DR, if the virus ceases to cause asymptomatic infections, does that mean it will become less contagious? Kind of like what SARS did, it was only able to infect by those exhibiting symptoms?
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Interesting. Seems the world expects the virus to remain 85% (generally speaking) asymptomatic. But the thought of that number being reduced as the virus “learns” how to defeat stronger immune systems combined with the notion that antibodies only last 3-4 months sounds rather concerning.

Not to mention the timing of it all potentially coming together in alignment.
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Dr thank you very much for the update.

About the asymptomatics, I have the suspect that the great number of them is the best proof that this illness is some form of aids. Obviously, if this is the case they will not remain asymptomatic forever. This would also explain the overreaction by the Chinese
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Im sure he’s well aware the covidsars 2 weapon was not designed to kill everyone, it’s just a psyop pretest. I wouldnt be surprised if Opee knows when the really lethal one will be released though...
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Then you got fuckhead goofs like Turdeau that locks the border with the USA but lets infected scumbags fly in from middle east and china the whole time.

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In spite of Opee’s dire predictions (remember he said it was “game over” for USA in March) And he said all US hospitals would be overrun and collapsed by April(lol theyre all still empty). Let that sink in, no matter how you mental gymnastic contort and shovel bullshit, NONE of this assholes pathetic preductions panned out.
Think about that.
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Please go back and re read all updates, your reading comprehension seems to be poor, OP has made a few predictions, and he nailed most of them, potential outcomes, have always been presented as POTENTIAL, when and if certain factors align, so far those POTENTIAL very bad outcomes have been avoided, which is very good, but there are still POTENTIAL bad outcomes that could happen, and denial of the severity of those POTENTIAL bad outcomes only makes them more possible.
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In spite of Opee’s dire predictions (remember he said it was “game over” for USA in March) And he said all US hospitals would be overrun and collapsed by April(lol theyre all still empty). Let that sink in, no matter how you mental gymnastic contort and shovel bullshit, NONE of this assholes pathetic preductions panned out.
Think about that.
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If no one had locked down....yes, it would have been game over. And I would hardly look at a place like Houston and say "lol theyre all still empty". And what the f is a "preduction"?

Think about that.

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In spite of Opee’s dire predictions (remember he said it was “game over” for USA in March) And he said all US hospitals would be overrun and collapsed by April(lol theyre all still empty). Let that sink in, no matter how you mental gymnastic contort and shovel bullshit, NONE of this assholes pathetic preductions panned out.
Think about that.
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First, you are an idiot.


Secondly, I said that it will happen IF (I think you are able to understand what IF means) there will be no lock-downs.


Thirdly, you are even a MUCH bigger idiot if you don't see that now, when there are no lock-downs, hospitals are already full in many cities in the U.S.


My predictions of hospitals collapsing still stands...IF there will be no lock-downs.


Sadly, it is already happening, and it will get worse. A collapsed hospital means exactly "NO MORE BEDS AVAILABLE", and this is already a reality for dozens of hospitals.


And it will get worse, so soon, that even you won't be back here.

Well, you won't be back anyway, unless you use a proxy.



Bye.

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Thanks for the update op
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Thanks for the update op
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Thank you for still being here.

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Looks like today we might break 200k cases.


Europe is going to start adding in July, while the U.S., LatAm and South America will still not be at the peak in July.


Expecting 300k cases / day by end of July.



And that is official cases.



The second round of lock-downs should start in July. I say SHOULD, because it won't. The latest SHOULD be August, but the reality is that it will be in September, when they schools won't reopen.


At that date, or around that date, the second round of lock-downs will come regardless of what politicians want.



I'd be surprised if it comes earlier then September.

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Thank you for the updates, DR. hf
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Thank you for the updates, DR. hf
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hf


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Thanks for the updates and the patience with the morans, DR.

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Thanks for the updates and the patience with the morans, DR.

grouphug
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Thanks.


Morans help tho, they are here to remind us why the pandemic was always impossible to stop and the economic collapse inevitable : because most people are morans, and you can't ask nicely the morans to do what they need to do, you have to force them.


But that is only possible with lock-downs, so...yeah.


We're fucked anyway.



Nothing changed from my predictions, just delayed.


Winter is coming, and I sadly, most are clueless of what it means.
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Do you have any prediction about Brazil and Mexico?
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D.R., Thx so much for your continued work here....my go to page for info and reality!!!
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Do you have any prediction about Brazil and Mexico?
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Yes, it will get worse.





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