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CHINESE VIRUS infection rate OUTSIDE China

 
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Mid October was the Uncle Doom date as well.

Time to double prep.....

:UK Keep Calm Sma:
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Mid October was the Uncle Doom date as well.

Time to double prep.....

:UK Keep Calm Sma:
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Do you have a link?
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UD deleted some of his comments, if still exists check in the main thread
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Spain : 8,500 new cases.


France : 7,000 new cases.



But hey, schools will be opened anyway. I can't believe that humans are that stupid, and I can't believe that what I expected to happen, is happening.


Again, if schools will still be open by the end of October, we're fuckxed.


I can bet all my money that this will happen. I no longer have any doubts that they will avoid lock-downs, and the health systems will collapse, triggering an economic and social collapse never seen before.


Lock-downs or not.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector



Thanks for the update, DR. The stupidity is real. :)
Waiting for the inflection point of no return....
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Spain : 8,500 new cases.


France : 7,000 new cases.



But hey, schools will be opened anyway. I can't believe that humans are that stupid, and I can't believe that what I expected to happen, is happening.


Again, if schools will still be open by the end of October, we're fuckxed.


I can bet all my money that this will happen. I no longer have any doubts that they will avoid lock-downs, and the health systems will collapse, triggering an economic and social collapse never seen before.


Lock-downs or not.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector





We really are in a perfect storm of a shit show. Careening off the cliff in Slow-mo.

I have to admit that even I have psychologically fallen a bit out of vigilance against the virus. I Slowed down preparations as summer seems to give another solace from the dangers.


If a believer like me can relax imagine the people who are over it, the hoax tards, and the hopeburgers are acting now?

Couple all of the above with reopenings, back to school, and back to work orders.
Spikes might be here in the US before October, I think.

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Mid October was the Uncle Doom date as well.

Time to double prep.....

:UK Keep Calm Sma:
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Do you have a link?
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UD deleted some of his comments, if still exists check in the main thread
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I can verify. Have September 21 down in my calendar for UD date.
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Very interesting!


bradykinin storm


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Thank you for the link.

A really interesting read.


The theory explains most symptoms, and if clinical trials will start and show at least some partial success, we have yet another way to combat the disease.


It won't affect the spread, but it will lower the hospitalization times and ICU admissions, which is what matters.


Another theory that suggests Vitamin D is essential in fighting the disease. We can't be 100% protected against infection, but we can keep normal levels of Vitamin D, and that will help in lowering the gravity of the symptoms and lead to a faster recovery.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


put me and GF on VIT D and C in the beginning.
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Lots of talk about the low death toll at this time. Are we expecting the death toll to rise dramatically in the coming weeks or will it remain low?
 Quoting: The Gathering Storm


I can see the icu cases rising where I am. Death rate is low still atm. Within this month I’d imagine we should see a rise. Although it may be less lethal this time round, as DR said overall it should be more deadly, once the hospitals are full.

What I’m interested in, is just how high the daily infections could go per million people?!
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Lots of talk about the low death toll at this time. Are we expecting the death toll to rise dramatically in the coming weeks or will it remain low?
 Quoting: The Gathering Storm


I can see the icu cases rising where I am. Death rate is low still atm. Within this month I’d imagine we should see a rise. Although it may be less lethal this time round, as DR said overall it should be more deadly, once the hospitals are full.

What I’m interested in, is just how high the daily infections could go per million people?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77153496


Everywhere the ICU cases are rising, this is normal, they missed their tic-toc videos when people started going to the hospital for every minor reason and had to take a break and enjoy life.

The virus is very lethal and hospitals will be full as before at the beginning in a while, even more and the triage system will take place and only those with the best chances of survival will be treated, nurses must dance for the virus and have no time and doctors must experiment in a professional way with the patients that are having the severe symptoms of this virus and so don't expect half scientific papers, they must do it right, the rest unfortunately are doomed but we are already too much so...

Nothing to worry about.
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Lots of talk about the low death toll at this time. Are we expecting the death toll to rise dramatically in the coming weeks or will it remain low?
 Quoting: The Gathering Storm


I can see the icu cases rising where I am. Death rate is low still atm. Within this month I’d imagine we should see a rise. Although it may be less lethal this time round, as DR said overall it should be more deadly, once the hospitals are full.

What I’m interested in, is just how high the daily infections could go per million people?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77153496


Everywhere the ICU cases are rising, this is normal, they missed their tic-toc videos when people started going to the hospital for every minor reason and had to take a break and enjoy life.

The virus is very lethal and hospitals will be full as before at the beginning in a while, even more and the triage system will take place and only those with the best chances of survival will be treated, nurses must dance for the virus and have no time and doctors must experiment in a professional way with the patients that are having the severe symptoms of this virus and so don't expect half scientific papers, they must do it right, the rest unfortunately are doomed but we are already too much so...

Nothing to worry about.
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Small update about hospitalizations and ICU regarding Covid-19 cases in Italy.

In the week 26th August/1st September
Hospitalizations in Italy increased by 30%
ICU increased by 62%
[Compared to the previous week]

[link to www.ansa.it (secure)]

Overall numbers are still low but it is clearly a "sign", a "trend" of how pandemic is evolving.
And this... Is happening right before re-opening of schools...
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Thank you for your update DR!
We were all waiting for it.


I got bad news from Italy.
Hospitalizations and ICU increased again today.

We got

+ 978 new positive cases
+ 8 deaths
+ 13 ICU (new total is 107)
+ 105 hospitalizations (new total is 1.380)

+ 300 recovered
 Quoting: Leonero


Bad news?
What about the days when there were 5000 positive cases and 2,000 deaths ?
Caution is a good thing, always seeing the bad side of everything is a disease.
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"disease" is a bit strong choice of words...
Btw my opinion was based on the constant icrease of ICU and hospitalizations during a very sweet season in Italy (summer in Italy use to kill elder people because of high temperatures, not for a "flu-like" virus).

I am starting to be pessimistic because some hospitals started again to delay medical check for chronic diseases
[one, for example, is the well-known Spallanzani hospital. It was the first hospital that started to study Covid-19. It has been "converted" in a Covid center].

And italian health system is still processing all the medical checks that were delayed during lockdown months.

We use to look at the pandemic as a single and "isolated" issue, but when a Health System is overwhelmed, all people with chronic or newly diagnosed disease won't be able to get the services they need.

This eventuality may lead to an higher death toll which is not mentioned on newspapers and media.
(think about oncologic patients, people with heart disease, and so on).


This, of course, is my opinion, my personal expectation for the near future... Hope it won't happen.

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Curious to know what decisions posters are making about the flu vaccine this year.

I am in near total quarantine, almost never leave the house due to extra covid risk factors. If I leave the house, I'd be masked up (might even add a visor). That makes me think chances of catching regular flu should be considerably lower this year (IF others mask up, a big IF).

Is it ridiculous to think I'm less likely to get flu now, or simply not worth the risk to skip vaccine? Thoughts? TIA
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Israel back to lockdown

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UK 1700 cases

Testing max at 170000.

1 in 100 !!!!
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UK 1700 cases

Testing max at 170000.

1 in 100 !!!!
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


I have a lot of family in London and from their FB posts, seems to me like people are acting like its hunky dory
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Curious to know what decisions posters are making about the flu vaccine this year.

I am in near total quarantine, almost never leave the house due to extra covid risk factors. If I leave the house, I'd be masked up (might even add a visor). That makes me think chances of catching regular flu should be considerably lower this year (IF others mask up, a big IF).

Is it ridiculous to think I'm less likely to get flu now, or simply not worth the risk to skip vaccine? Thoughts? TIA
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77395595


u don't need no flu shot. with the mask u shouldn't catch it. gloves will help even more.unless u live in an apt. where the air circulates between u and ppl who are infected.
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UK 1700 cases

Testing max at 170000.

1 in 100 !!!!
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


I have a lot of family in London and from their FB posts, seems to me like people are acting like its hunky dory
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Apart from masks in shops it’s as normal.

If only they knew.....!
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negazionists and no mask movements organized a rally against the government, which they consider a "healthcare dictatorship", on 5th September, in Rome.

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UK 1700 cases

Testing max at 170000.

1 in 100 !!!!
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


There is an index called “positivity %”, meaning the % of tested people that comes back positive. In Chile it reached 26% on the worst days, now is below 6% and I think 8% Is considered “good” from international standards.
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UPDATES FROM ITALY

+ 1733 new positive cases
+ 11 dead patients
+ 1 ICU (patients currently in ICU: 121)
+ 102 patients hospitalized (patients currently hospitalized: 1607 - ex prime minister Silvio Berlusconi included)

+ 537 recovered

+ 649 new epidemic clusters (detected and currently active clusters: 1799)
[data regarding clusters updated on 30th August]


Source:
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UK 1700 cases

Testing max at 170000.

1 in 100 !!!!
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


I have a lot of family in London and from their FB posts, seems to me like people are acting like its hunky dory
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78576165


Apart from masks in shops it’s as normal.

If only they knew.....!
 Quoting: ParamedicUK


Be safe Paramedic UK. It will be a blindsided impact when Brits realize this utter negligence.

It took us a about 3 different bank holidays to give the virus the power of resurgence.

UK was a little behind the US in reopening so your spikes is inevitably coming. Not to be a pessimist but it really is always just a matter of time.


Sturgis, Labor Day, and school reopening here has lit another wick for spread

Just. A. Matter. Of. Time.
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Israel back to lockdown

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France ruling out another lockdown citing low number of hospitalisations.
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negazionists and no mask movements organized a rally against the government, which they consider a "healthcare dictatorship", on 5th September, in Rome.

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France ruling out another lockdown citing low number of hospitalisations.
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For now.


Will see how they do by mid-October.
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France ruling out another lockdown citing low number of hospitalisations.
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For now.


Will see how they do by mid-October.
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So if the lockdowns helped to kept the virus 'localised', hence the reason Lombardy was worse than Rome etc. This time the virus will spread a bit more evenly so it's going to get interesting heading towards late September early October.
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France ruling out another lockdown citing low number of hospitalisations.
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For now.


Will see how they do by mid-October.
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Hello DR! I hope you are having a good Sunday.

As I have said before I think resistance to lock downs will only make the problem worse to the point that most people will beg for t he lock downs to be implemented. Having a “normal“ behavior leads to increased virus contagion. We all know that, most people still don’t see it clearly, and as long as they are not affected directly by the virus their normalcy bias makes them think the lock downs are the problem. When and If we reach a spread of the virus that makes no one possible to be free from direct effect of it in their personal life’s, people will change their normalcy bias to the other side and beg on their knees to be protected from the virus. The problem is much more the human psyche than the virus itself, as long as most of the people don’t realize the direness of our situation.
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Sky News Breaking @SkyNewsBreak
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Official figures show the UK has recorded 2,988 new daily cases of covid-19 compared with 1,813 yesterday
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2228 cases in UK predominately among young people

Why hello second lockdown
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France ruling out another lockdown citing low number of hospitalisations.
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For now.


Will see how they do by mid-October.
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Hello DR! I hope you are having a good Sunday.

As I have said before I think resistance to lock downs will only make the problem worse to the point that most people will beg for t he lock downs to be implemented. Having a “normal“ behavior leads to increased virus contagion. We all know that, most people still don’t see it clearly, and as long as they are not affected directly by the virus their normalcy bias makes them think the lock downs are the problem. When and If we reach a spread of the virus that makes no one possible to be free from direct effect of it in their personal life’s, people will change their normalcy bias to the other side and beg on their knees to be protected from the virus. The problem is much more the human psyche than the virus itself, as long as most of the people don’t realize the direness of our situation.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe



Hey Red.

I hope you have a good Sunday also.



Obviously the human behavior is the key factor in a pandemic.

Our current society lacks logic, and it is easily influenced by politicians (who have no idea what we are facing, and are biased toward the economy) and opinion makers (who are basically idiots), leading to a strong majority that is against lock-downs, against masks, against distancing and basically thinks that this virus doesn't exists or it's nothing but a simple cold.

This majority is going to fight against any logical reasoning, and when paired with school opening, is going to lead to a massive second wave.


The U.S., when facing the July resurgence, managed to lower their cases by mid-August...but schools got reopened, and now, the U.S. is not only back on an upward trend, but a strong upward trend.

Europe's resurgence started, as I predicted, in August, and, as I also predicted, is now on a strong upward trend, which will skyrocket, starting in October.


France posted 7k new cases today...on a Sunday. Tomorrow they will most likely have the same numbers, but starting Tuesday, I won't be amazed at all to see France going over 10k/cases a day, and reaching 15k cases/day by mid-September...unless they quickly close the schools.

Spain is going to post massive numbers next week, and U.K. is going to reach 5-6k cases / day next week.



I am going to say again : by mid-October, the pandemic will be bad, in any country that have schools open, and the decision to lock-down again will have to be implemented or rejected.


I do not expect them to do it, and this will lead to a crisis in November, which the world won't be able to cope with.


Sadly, the rise in cases, hospitalizations and deaths is not going to be serious, by mid-October, and this will make the politicians avoid to lock-down, and the hoaxers majority to keep doing what they do.

The situation will become bad really fast, after mid-October, and most people won't even know what hit them...but by that time, it will be too late.
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