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WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month

 
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UK 1700 cases

Testing max at 170000.

1 in 100 !!!!
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I have a lot of family in London and from their FB posts, seems to me like people are acting like its hunky dory
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Apart from masks in shops it’s as normal.

If only they knew.....!
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Be safe Paramedic UK. It will be a blindsided impact when Brits realize this utter negligence.

It took us a about 3 different bank holidays to give the virus the power of resurgence.

UK was a little behind the US in reopening so your spikes is inevitably coming. Not to be a pessimist but it really is always just a matter of time.


Sturgis, Labor Day, and school reopening here has lit another wick for spread

Just. A. Matter. Of. Time.
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Israel back to lockdown

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Others to follow soon
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France ruling out another lockdown citing low number of hospitalisations.
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negazionists and no mask movements organized a rally against the government, which they consider a "healthcare dictatorship", on 5th September, in Rome.

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1500 clowns
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Israel back to lockdown

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France ruling out another lockdown citing low number of hospitalisations.
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For now.


Will see how they do by mid-October.
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Israel back to lockdown

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France ruling out another lockdown citing low number of hospitalisations.
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For now.


Will see how they do by mid-October.
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So if the lockdowns helped to kept the virus 'localised', hence the reason Lombardy was worse than Rome etc. This time the virus will spread a bit more evenly so it's going to get interesting heading towards late September early October.
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Israel back to lockdown

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France ruling out another lockdown citing low number of hospitalisations.
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For now.


Will see how they do by mid-October.
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Hello DR! I hope you are having a good Sunday.

As I have said before I think resistance to lock downs will only make the problem worse to the point that most people will beg for t he lock downs to be implemented. Having a “normal“ behavior leads to increased virus contagion. We all know that, most people still don’t see it clearly, and as long as they are not affected directly by the virus their normalcy bias makes them think the lock downs are the problem. When and If we reach a spread of the virus that makes no one possible to be free from direct effect of it in their personal life’s, people will change their normalcy bias to the other side and beg on their knees to be protected from the virus. The problem is much more the human psyche than the virus itself, as long as most of the people don’t realize the direness of our situation.
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Sky News Breaking @SkyNewsBreak
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Official figures show the UK has recorded 2,988 new daily cases of covid-19 compared with 1,813 yesterday
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2228 cases in UK predominately among young people

Why hello second lockdown
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Israel back to lockdown

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Others to follow soon
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France ruling out another lockdown citing low number of hospitalisations.
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For now.


Will see how they do by mid-October.
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Hello DR! I hope you are having a good Sunday.

As I have said before I think resistance to lock downs will only make the problem worse to the point that most people will beg for t he lock downs to be implemented. Having a “normal“ behavior leads to increased virus contagion. We all know that, most people still don’t see it clearly, and as long as they are not affected directly by the virus their normalcy bias makes them think the lock downs are the problem. When and If we reach a spread of the virus that makes no one possible to be free from direct effect of it in their personal life’s, people will change their normalcy bias to the other side and beg on their knees to be protected from the virus. The problem is much more the human psyche than the virus itself, as long as most of the people don’t realize the direness of our situation.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe



Hey Red.

I hope you have a good Sunday also.



Obviously the human behavior is the key factor in a pandemic.

Our current society lacks logic, and it is easily influenced by politicians (who have no idea what we are facing, and are biased toward the economy) and opinion makers (who are basically idiots), leading to a strong majority that is against lock-downs, against masks, against distancing and basically thinks that this virus doesn't exists or it's nothing but a simple cold.

This majority is going to fight against any logical reasoning, and when paired with school opening, is going to lead to a massive second wave.


The U.S., when facing the July resurgence, managed to lower their cases by mid-August...but schools got reopened, and now, the U.S. is not only back on an upward trend, but a strong upward trend.

Europe's resurgence started, as I predicted, in August, and, as I also predicted, is now on a strong upward trend, which will skyrocket, starting in October.


France posted 7k new cases today...on a Sunday. Tomorrow they will most likely have the same numbers, but starting Tuesday, I won't be amazed at all to see France going over 10k/cases a day, and reaching 15k cases/day by mid-September...unless they quickly close the schools.

Spain is going to post massive numbers next week, and U.K. is going to reach 5-6k cases / day next week.



I am going to say again : by mid-October, the pandemic will be bad, in any country that have schools open, and the decision to lock-down again will have to be implemented or rejected.


I do not expect them to do it, and this will lead to a crisis in November, which the world won't be able to cope with.


Sadly, the rise in cases, hospitalizations and deaths is not going to be serious, by mid-October, and this will make the politicians avoid to lock-down, and the hoaxers majority to keep doing what they do.

The situation will become bad really fast, after mid-October, and most people won't even know what hit them...but by that time, it will be too late.
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Dr i think 7k cases/day is already enough serious. Don't you?
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How many daily cases did the UK have when the lockdown was brought in back in March?
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Thanks for the updates, DR. How is Romania doing?

Stay safe and healthy, everyone. :)
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Love the effort put into this thread! Thanks for updating!

A few days ago here in Czech we had three straight days of records being broken. Quite dramatic increases. The graph has been remade three times over the last weeks to accommodate this increase.
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What is bothering me as others have pointed out. Is the sheer ignorance of the general public! Relying on msm for facts, which is very naive to say the least.

I can’t help but think back again to the Spanish flu, where it’s now commonly known the reason it got named after Spain, is because they told the truth about the death toll. As opposed to UK and US who lied to keep public morale and maintain a strong appearance to their enemies in war.

Same ignorance today, same patterns of first and second wave in timing, reluctance to wear masks, and media lies.

So each country I believe is molding a BS story for their people, just to lower people’s guard and get them out catching this thing as much as possible. I’d say this was all part of the scripted tactic devised long ago. Still shocking to believe China has had what is it? Like 4000 odd dead. They would be on the extreme end of lying, but great deception is at hand here.
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negazionists and no mask movements organized a rally against the government, which they consider a "healthcare dictatorship", on 5th September, in Rome.

[link to www.today.it (secure)]
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1500 clowns
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Moreover, considering no masks & no social distancing... 1500 possible new "hosts" for Covid-19 virus.
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negazionists and no mask movements organized a rally against the government, which they consider a "healthcare dictatorship", on 5th September, in Rome.

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1500 clowns
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Moreover, considering no masks & no social distancing... 1500 possible new "hosts" for Covid-19 virus.
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hesright


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Thanks for the updates, DR. How is Romania doing?

Stay safe and healthy, everyone. :)
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Romania is like everyone else. Most people think it's a hoax or a flu.

We barely test anyone, around 24k / day, with 10k of them are voluntary, from people who went in holidays abroad, and needed a test. Almost all of them were negative, as expected, and this skews the results of testing.


We're opening the schools on 14th, so, yeah...
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Thanks for the Update, have been following your posts and they have been spot on.
I also expect the government bodies to be hesitant to lock down or close schools. I northern Germany schools have been open for some weeks, but we have started from a very low baseline of infections. This will change. Schools in southern Germany are opening up this week, but with many more infections in the background.

When you say crisis in November, can you specifiy? Do you personally expect a Mad-Max-like situation? What are you doing/recommend to prepare?
Thanks!
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I've just heard on TV that in France the ratio cases/tests is around the 5%

If this is true it means that the American virus has arrived in Europe

The American virus has a ratio around 10%, the European one around 1-1.5%
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"It was not Kawasaki but an inflammatory disease caused by Covid.

A study by the Bambino Gesù pediatric hospital in Rome sheds light on a systemic inflammatory disease (called "Mis-C"), caused by coronavirus and initially confused with Kawasaki disease ..."

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Hey DR,

I know you have given your opinion about supposed vaccine before on this thread. I tend to agree with you.

Trump, however, talking about vaccine being distributed next month. What do you make of all of this? Why would he say that? Do you think this vaccine will help the October sh**show we are heading towards?
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Hey DR,

I know you have given your opinion about supposed vaccine before on this thread. I tend to agree with you.

Trump, however, talking about vaccine being distributed next month. What do you make of all of this? Why would he say that? Do you think this vaccine will help the October sh**show we are heading towards?
 Quoting: CLYMER


Great questions!

I’m wondering the same thing!
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Hey DR,

I know you have given your opinion about supposed vaccine before on this thread. I tend to agree with you.

Trump, however, talking about vaccine being distributed next month. What do you make of all of this? Why would he say that? Do you think this vaccine will help the October sh**show we are heading towards?
 Quoting: CLYMER


Or will help his re-election? chuckle
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Hey DR,

I know you have given your opinion about supposed vaccine before on this thread. I tend to agree with you.

Trump, however, talking about vaccine being distributed next month. What do you make of all of this? Why would he say that? Do you think this vaccine will help the October sh**show we are heading towards?
 Quoting: CLYMER


Or will help his re-election? chuckle
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And the Australian government saying they have ordered 50 million of this vaccine, and will make another 80 million of another one , sounds really sketchy to me , and I haven't herd ( pun intended) one person ask if it's going to be an annual vaccine like the flu shot , the making it out like we will only need to take it once , all they've said is that you will need two doses to be covered , sounds like total shit to me when the virus mutates all the time , but .... I'm no expert so please correct me if I'm wrong.
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France has lowered quarantine period from 14 days to 7 days

After 7 days the virus will not be infectious anymore
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France has lowered quarantine period from 14 days to 7 days

After 7 days the virus will not be infectious anymore
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Lockdown: ruled out
Quarantine time: reduced to 7 days
Schools: still opened

Is France going to look after a complete disaster?

I may sound sarcastic but... I really don't understand some politics choices...

There is no evidence that people affected by Covid-19 are not infectious after 7 days...

Even some italian virologists started to call "asymptomatic" as "pre-symptomatic" because no one still knows exactly how this virus behave in people with no visible symptoms and how it replicates in younger and "stronger" hosts.

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You’d be forgiven for thinking they want us to beg for lockdown at this point
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Hey DR,

I know you have given your opinion about supposed vaccine before on this thread. I tend to agree with you.

Trump, however, talking about vaccine being distributed next month. What do you make of all of this? Why would he say that? Do you think this vaccine will help the October sh**show we are heading towards?
 Quoting: CLYMER


All I can say is this :

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Among the 9, are Moderna, Pfizer, J&J, AstraZenca and Sanofi.


Earliest a vaccine will be approved is Spring 2021, if all goes perfectly, with mass production and distribution starting in Summer of 2021.





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