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WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month

 
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Recent Czech numbers:

September 8th 1161 (new record)

September 9th 1159 almost passing record set

September 10th 1337 new record

So these figures at the halfway point of the day, were 6-700 if I recall? Then as I said before I checked the morning after and they had risen to these tallies.

Today’s figures at the halfway stage of the day is 909, which again is the highest I’ve seen it at the halfway point. So when I wake up I’ll no doubt find the total figures of the 11th to be a new record.

I find this growth quite alarming in such a small space of time, even though I’m aware it’s exponential. Normally the trend tends to go, let’s say up, down a bit up, then maybe up, down down kind of thing. Usually indicating a trend of it being higher. But this basically just keeps going up, since September more or less.

I may post it a few times that it’s a record again, but it’s worth noting. Spoke to the mother in law tonight. Long story short, she was saying how she didn’t know anyone who’s had it bla bla (we’ve all heard that) in fact I won’t go into the conversation as it’ll annoy me again. People will have a wake up call soon.

Situation here imo, is that they shut down early compared to other countries, to save the delicate economy. They also opened early to also save the delicate economy. So the first wave was practically nothing. (Leading to people’s complacency) then after opening early combined with ignorance, this has lead to the current situation. Amazing to think these numbers of today, are from 3 weeks ago essentially.

I’m just sitting back and analyzing this develop.
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Just a random thing to add to the timeline, I notice the numbers in the uk started rising rapidly a week or so after the temperature started to drop.

Also many people seem to have the ‘usual colds’ we get here at this time of year and are not getting tested because it’s ‘just a cold’.

Probably a good thing being as though we don’t have enough tests as it is! *Sarc*
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Guys, I need your help with information from your countries regarding hiring personal for emergency services.

Romania is hiring, temporarily, without exam, for the duration of the pandemic (this is the official announcement), roughly 500 drivers and 500 other personal for emergency services.

I don't know how emergency services in other countries are structured, but the ISU drivers in Romania are used (among other things) for transporting patients (supplementing ambulance services), including Covid-19 ones.

This never happened before in Romania, hiring without exam and w/o any special skill related to emergency services and in all counties in same time.


Another thing is that this started on Monday, and the deadline to apply for the jobs is September 13th, which means they need those jobs filled asap, and before October.


I like to know if something similar is happening in your countries, because there is no way that only Romania is basically doubling their emergency services drivers all of a sudden.


Thanks.
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Probably they are expecting massive numbers of sick people and massive losses from October and on, and they don't care if you are a truck driver or a trained ambulance driver, as long as you can get the patient to a hospital or the dead person to the crematorium. For what I know from a colleague, an infectious disease specialist MD friend that she know told her that there are more than 130 strains of the virus, thus there is almost no chance of finding a single vaccine or a single cure and this winter will be awful and that our lives will not go back to the status quo ante very soon...
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Re: WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month
Recent Czech numbers:

September 8th 1161 (new record)

September 9th 1159 almost passing record set

September 10th 1337 new record

So these figures at the halfway point of the day, were 6-700 if I recall? Then as I said before I checked the morning after and they had risen to these tallies.

Today’s figures at the halfway stage of the day is 909, which again is the highest I’ve seen it at the halfway point. So when I wake up I’ll no doubt find the total figures of the 11th to be a new record.

I find this growth quite alarming in such a small space of time, even though I’m aware it’s exponential. Normally the trend tends to go, let’s say up, down a bit up, then maybe up, down down kind of thing. Usually indicating a trend of it being higher. But this basically just keeps going up, since September more or less.

I may post it a few times that it’s a record again, but it’s worth noting. Spoke to the mother in law tonight. Long story short, she was saying how she didn’t know anyone who’s had it bla bla (we’ve all heard that) in fact I won’t go into the conversation as it’ll annoy me again. People will have a wake up call soon.

Situation here imo, is that they shut down early compared to other countries, to save the delicate economy. They also opened early to also save the delicate economy. So the first wave was practically nothing. (Leading to people’s complacency) then after opening early combined with ignorance, this has lead to the current situation. Amazing to think these numbers of today, are from 3 weeks ago essentially.

I’m just sitting back and analyzing this develop.
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Can you find out the % of positives per tests now?
And compare it to the first wave.

Should give you an idea on where its at.

The UK is sitting around the 11th march for the same % of positives.


With them finding more cases it will reduce the spread more.
The train crash just got slower, its still going to happen, it juts take longer
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Guys, I need your help with information from your countries regarding hiring personal for emergency services.

Romania is hiring, temporarily, without exam, for the duration of the pandemic (this is the official announcement), roughly 500 drivers and 500 other personal for emergency services.

I don't know how emergency services in other countries are structured, but the ISU drivers in Romania are used (among other things) for transporting patients (supplementing ambulance services), including Covid-19 ones.

This never happened before in Romania, hiring without exam and w/o any special skill related to emergency services and in all counties in same time.


Another thing is that this started on Monday, and the deadline to apply for the jobs is September 13th, which means they need those jobs filled asap, and before October.


I like to know if something similar is happening in your countries, because there is no way that only Romania is basically doubling their emergency services drivers all of a sudden.


Thanks.
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Dr russia is going up again
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Re: WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month
Recent Czech numbers:

September 8th 1161 (new record)

September 9th 1159 almost passing record set

September 10th 1337 new record

So these figures at the halfway point of the day, were 6-700 if I recall? Then as I said before I checked the morning after and they had risen to these tallies.

Today’s figures at the halfway stage of the day is 909, which again is the highest I’ve seen it at the halfway point. So when I wake up I’ll no doubt find the total figures of the 11th to be a new record.

I find this growth quite alarming in such a small space of time, even though I’m aware it’s exponential. Normally the trend tends to go, let’s say up, down a bit up, then maybe up, down down kind of thing. Usually indicating a trend of it being higher. But this basically just keeps going up, since September more or less.

I may post it a few times that it’s a record again, but it’s worth noting. Spoke to the mother in law tonight. Long story short, she was saying how she didn’t know anyone who’s had it bla bla (we’ve all heard that) in fact I won’t go into the conversation as it’ll annoy me again. People will have a wake up call soon.

Situation here imo, is that they shut down early compared to other countries, to save the delicate economy. They also opened early to also save the delicate economy. So the first wave was practically nothing. (Leading to people’s complacency) then after opening early combined with ignorance, this has lead to the current situation. Amazing to think these numbers of today, are from 3 weeks ago essentially.

I’m just sitting back and analyzing this develop.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79368151


Can you find out the % of positives per tests now?
And compare it to the first wave.

Should give you an idea on where its at.

The UK is sitting around the 11th march for the same % of positives.


With them finding more cases it will reduce the spread more.
The train crash just got slower, its still going to happen, it juts take longer
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68759456


I’ll see what I can do, but it’s difficult for me as my czech is far from perfect. I’m relying on certain info passed onto me and translated. I believe it’s a unique situation here actually. Cleanliness and ignorance have laid the foundations for something big here too.

Btw the record was broken again yesterday. 1447 infection cases for the 11th September.
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Dr russia is going up again
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Yes, I know.


It's one of the countries I am closely follow.


Everyone in Northern Hemisphere is seeing a surge in cases. Russia is no exception. Everyone is back to work from summer vacations. Schools reopened.


Ofc the cases will rise. And keep rising.
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New from Hong Kong:

Covid sufferers are twice as likely as general population to have recently eaten at a restaurant.

Masks off, saliva aerosolized, airconditioning filters uncleaned...


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US will be fine.
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New from Hong Kong:

Covid sufferers are twice as likely as general population to have recently eaten at a restaurant.

Masks off, saliva aerosolized, airconditioning filters uncleaned...


vodka5
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US will be fine.
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Yeah, keep dreaming.
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Recent Czech numbers:

September 8th 1161 (new record)

September 9th 1159 almost passing record set

September 10th 1337 new record

So these figures at the halfway point of the day, were 6-700 if I recall? Then as I said before I checked the morning after and they had risen to these tallies.

Today’s figures at the halfway stage of the day is 909, which again is the highest I’ve seen it at the halfway point. So when I wake up I’ll no doubt find the total figures of the 11th to be a new record.

I find this growth quite alarming in such a small space of time, even though I’m aware it’s exponential. Normally the trend tends to go, let’s say up, down a bit up, then maybe up, down down kind of thing. Usually indicating a trend of it being higher. But this basically just keeps going up, since September more or less.

I may post it a few times that it’s a record again, but it’s worth noting. Spoke to the mother in law tonight. Long story short, she was saying how she didn’t know anyone who’s had it bla bla (we’ve all heard that) in fact I won’t go into the conversation as it’ll annoy me again. People will have a wake up call soon.

Situation here imo, is that they shut down early compared to other countries, to save the delicate economy. They also opened early to also save the delicate economy. So the first wave was practically nothing. (Leading to people’s complacency) then after opening early combined with ignorance, this has lead to the current situation. Amazing to think these numbers of today, are from 3 weeks ago essentially.

I’m just sitting back and analyzing this develop.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79368151


Can you find out the % of positives per tests now?
And compare it to the first wave.

Should give you an idea on where its at.

The UK is sitting around the 11th march for the same % of positives.


With them finding more cases it will reduce the spread more.
The train crash just got slower, its still going to happen, it juts take longer
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68759456


I’ll see what I can do, but it’s difficult for me as my czech is far from perfect. I’m relying on certain info passed onto me and translated. I believe it’s a unique situation here actually. Cleanliness and ignorance have laid the foundations for something big here too.

Btw the record was broken again yesterday. 1447 infection cases for the 11th September.
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Yes the info is hard to get.

I got data for the UK upto about MAY for tests and posative cases.

But then with the UK changing things its hard to be 100% sure
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Recent Czech numbers:

September 8th 1161 (new record)

September 9th 1159 almost passing record set

September 10th 1337 new record

So these figures at the halfway point of the day, were 6-700 if I recall? Then as I said before I checked the morning after and they had risen to these tallies.

Today’s figures at the halfway stage of the day is 909, which again is the highest I’ve seen it at the halfway point. So when I wake up I’ll no doubt find the total figures of the 11th to be a new record.

I find this growth quite alarming in such a small space of time, even though I’m aware it’s exponential. Normally the trend tends to go, let’s say up, down a bit up, then maybe up, down down kind of thing. Usually indicating a trend of it being higher. But this basically just keeps going up, since September more or less.

I may post it a few times that it’s a record again, but it’s worth noting. Spoke to the mother in law tonight. Long story short, she was saying how she didn’t know anyone who’s had it bla bla (we’ve all heard that) in fact I won’t go into the conversation as it’ll annoy me again. People will have a wake up call soon.

Situation here imo, is that they shut down early compared to other countries, to save the delicate economy. They also opened early to also save the delicate economy. So the first wave was practically nothing. (Leading to people’s complacency) then after opening early combined with ignorance, this has lead to the current situation. Amazing to think these numbers of today, are from 3 weeks ago essentially.

I’m just sitting back and analyzing this develop.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79368151


Can you find out the % of positives per tests now?
And compare it to the first wave.

Should give you an idea on where its at.

The UK is sitting around the 11th march for the same % of positives.


With them finding more cases it will reduce the spread more.
The train crash just got slower, its still going to happen, it juts take longer
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68759456


I’ll see what I can do, but it’s difficult for me as my czech is far from perfect. I’m relying on certain info passed onto me and translated. I believe it’s a unique situation here actually. Cleanliness and ignorance have laid the foundations for something big here too.

Btw the record was broken again yesterday. 1447 infection cases for the 11th September.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79370116



Yes the info is hard to get.

I got data for the UK upto about MAY for tests and posative cases.

But then with the UK changing things its hard to be 100% sure
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More than 1400 new corona cases in the Czech Republic

The trend of increasing numbers of corona infections in the Czech Republic continues unabated. On Friday, 1,447 confirmed cases were added, more than ever in a day. The Ministry of Health in Prague announced on Saturday. There were more than 12,200 active cases. Since the pandemic began, 450 people have died linked to Covid-19 disease
I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

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US will be fine.
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whatever
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DR do you think a MAD MAX scenario is still possible in all the world? If yes, when you think it will start?
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Yes, it is still in the cards, and if certain things will take place by the end of October, a mad-max scenario will start by the end of this year.


Those things are related to the evolution of the pandemic, a second hard lock-down and a destabilization of the U.S.
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What factors need to happen for the mad max world?

What are the key to this
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I will go into detail about this on October 11th.


Atm, the situation is evolving as I am expecting it, but it must continue for another month, before I can be sure on the pandemic and / or lock-down half of the equation.

The other side is a destabilization of the U.S., but this is not something that can be predicted. It might happen, or not, but if it will, it will be fast, in a matter of days.


And there is another factor, which atm is unknown : food shortages.


Many things have to converge, for a mad-max scenario to happen.


Things will be much clearer around mid-October, for better or for worse.
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November 4th is when all hell will break loose in the U.S. no matter who the next puppet is.
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US will be fine.
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Keep dreaming dude...
Look at EU and multiply it per 10.

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US will be fine.
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Keep dreaming dude...
Look at EU and multiply it per 10.
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The unfortunate culmination of too many participation trophies. We are screwed.
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I fully agree that the US is going to go bonkers, no matter how the election turns out. It's already de-stabilizing, if you ask me ... though it's likely to get a whole lot worse.

I also think we are going to see a massive upsurge in infections as a combination of schools reopening, restrictions being lifted, and civil discontent continuing to rise.
Looks like freedom but it feels like death. It's something in between I guess... it's closing time.

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New from Hong Kong:

Covid sufferers are twice as likely as general population to have recently eaten at a restaurant.

Masks off, saliva aerosolized, airconditioning filters uncleaned...


vodka5
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I would never eat inside at a restaurant. Only ever sat outside to eat and only twice since March.
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DR do you think a MAD MAX scenario is still possible in all the world? If yes, when you think it will start?
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Yes, it is still in the cards, and if certain things will take place by the end of October, a mad-max scenario will start by the end of this year.


Those things are related to the evolution of the pandemic, a second hard lock-down and a destabilization of the U.S.
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US is a powder keg. Between social unrests and the virus. The desperation is running high and time is running short.

There will be no more stops for either one. Here in LA, we are at a tipping point of risking another riot.

Sheriffs will want retribution for their gunned down mates. If another person is unjustly killed, there is no stopping people to be out rioting again.
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DR do you think a MAD MAX scenario is still possible in all the world? If yes, when you think it will start?
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Yes, it is still in the cards, and if certain things will take place by the end of October, a mad-max scenario will start by the end of this year.


Those things are related to the evolution of the pandemic, a second hard lock-down and a destabilization of the U.S.
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US is a powder keg. Between social unrests and the virus. The desperation is running high and time is running short.

There will be no more stops for either one. Here in LA, we are at a tipping point of risking another riot.

Sheriffs will want retribution for their gunned down mates. If another person is unjustly killed, there is no stopping people to be out rioting again.
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Dr i think 7k cases/day is already enough serious. Don't you?
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Not really.


France today: 9,843.
Spain today : 10,764.


Still not worried.


I will be when they have 12-13k cases/day...which should be next week probably.


These are the numbers I expect the week to be in France and Spain, with 15k/day the week after next.
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Spain has not reported new cases in a week

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DR do you think a MAD MAX scenario is still possible in all the world? If yes, when you think it will start?
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Yes, it is still in the cards, and if certain things will take place by the end of October, a mad-max scenario will start by the end of this year.


Those things are related to the evolution of the pandemic, a second hard lock-down and a destabilization of the U.S.
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What factors need to happen for the mad max world?

What are the key to this
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I will go into detail about this on October 11th.


Atm, the situation is evolving as I am expecting it, but it must continue for another month, before I can be sure on the pandemic and / or lock-down half of the equation.

The other side is a destabilization of the U.S., but this is not something that can be predicted. It might happen, or not, but if it will, it will be fast, in a matter of days.


And there is another factor, which atm is unknown : food shortages.


Many things have to converge, for a mad-max scenario to happen.


Things will be much clearer around mid-October, for better or for worse.
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Many of our cities are already Mad Max with the looting and violent riots.

It won't take much to fully set things off.
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"Europe will see an increase in deaths caused by coronavirus in the months of October and November": the director for Europe of the World Health Organization (WHO), Hans Kluge, told the AFP news agency.
"It will become more difficult. In October and November we will see greater mortality," said Kluge, explaining that deaths will increase due to the current increase in cases of contagion.

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Well... It is something that we already knew... But I decided to post it as an example of how media is slowly changing the "tone" of the news.
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A quick heads up on covid disinfo going around in the other thread by the one with the dunce cap (RW). He's getting particularly sloppy with the lying now.

Take a peep over at the Worldometers Spain page. The have updated their curve based on the data dumps which have finally been applied to the proper day, it might be a bit too soon to tell but it looks like the 7 day average peak for their second wave will have been August 30th.

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"Too soon"? Yet a few days ago you quite emphatically stated that Spain had peaked.


Spain's second wave has peaked

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They've peaked. Hospitalizations have been flat for 3 weeks.

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That's the indicator which showed when all the US states would begin their downward trend.
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Wordsworth, your trolling and lying act is going to be even more transparent if you're not going to keep the lies consistent.



Meanwhile, current hospitalizations reported by Spanish Health authority, which were never 'flat for 3 weeks', reached a second wave high yesterday.


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I’ve been checking in on the updates for czech. So far at the halfway point in the day, it says 9 deaths, so I’d imagine this could/should increase come the final tally in the morning.

So if it stays at 9, this would be the highest reading since April 30th, I’m expecting this to rise though.

So this is the point I’ve been observing for. Finally it seems the death rates have now registered, as did the infection rate a certain time after opening. It may not sound like much in comparison to other countries, but it’s starting a new period here. Also it may be used as a gauge for future predictions time wise.

Also thought I’d mention I couldn’t find your thread DR. Of course it’s still here, but could it be that it’s hidden in the searches? I typed in enough relevant words to find it, usually this would work. Just a thought.
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Re: WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month
I had the same problem around 2 weeks ago. Couldn't find this thread, then days later it re-apeared.





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