WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month

Appreciate your work OP. Just curious if the latest study that provides evidence that Covid was engineered in the lab has any baring on what we can expect going forward. Is it a study we can trust? Would it makes things better combatting it, worse or does it matter?
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The only thing that matters in the man-made vs natural virus is the ability to have a proper vaccine.

Leaving aside that a proper vaccine is 3 years away (if we break all the records), if this virus is man-made, there won't be any vaccine. And this is the "good" news.


The bad news is that if this is indeed a man-made virus, we're screwed, because a biological weapon have a single purpose : to win a war without firing a single shot, by destroying your enemy ability to wage war.


Which means either massive deaths, either massive hospitalizations, either social collapse forced by massive quarantines.



But we might be lucky and if this is a man-made virus which was accidentally released, it might not be that good as a bio-weapon.

Last Edited by Recollector on 09/15/2020 01:41 PM

I was going to wait until tomorrow to make this post. But as I’m reading this now I’ll go ahead. Yesterday I commented how we recorded the highest death rate since April 30th during the first wave.

Today’s death figures that I’m reading, at what I’ve referred to as the half way point of the day, are currently saying 11 (which tips yesterday’s record which came in at 9) so the last time a reading was this high, was 18 (‘the record’ which was a one time event at the first peak, which occurred April 14th) so it could rise further when I check in again tomorrow as I always do.

Either way that states a lot. I fully understand what’s occurring here thanks to following this thread since the start. We should be ahead of the game in Europe as it was an early opener. I also checked in on the populations with highest infection rates to 100,000 people, and czech is in third place in Europe behind Spain and France:

Spain 270.7 France 153.9 Czech 111 per 100,000

It will be a unique scenario and one to keep an eye on. As the first wave barely registered here as anything significant compared to other countries. This has then led to an extra disregard for what’s happening, as people think it somehow missed this place. To think we have people in the US still claiming it’s fake etc, but generally people in higher affected countries have more familiarity with what’s going on. Well here, those deniers are more exaggerated in my experience and plus there was never a first wave to properly focus minds in general.

The damage has been caused already during summer I feel, and we still have good weather and I see events locally that have been had and are to go ahead. So the potential is still there and no one seems phased by the uptick.

I know it’s still early days, but I’ve checked on the data everyday through summer and beyond. I’m very familiar with the slightest subtle changes, what I’m seeing with the pattern is a stark uptick. It’s going exponential. Btw potentially today’s figures are also on par to break the record yet again for daily infections. I’m looking forward to DR’s mid October date, without lockdown every week leading till then should be dramatic. I’ll continue to update. Definitely on a roll here now.

Places like Italy UK were ahead in the first wave. We saw what happened there. They are due to have higher waves no doubt. The media there is downplaying the low death rates to lull people to lower their guard (as the death rates haven’t registered yet) what I’m seeing here in Czech tells me the rates will rise everywhere else in the same fashion, but they’re downplaying it as much as they can til the last moment.

I have family in UK and Spain and have a rounded idea of all the media approaches for each country. As I said above, czech should be a litmus test for other countries. All seems to be going ahead as per DR has stated. It is time to prepare (not worry that won’t help) but all is on the cards.

Imo the rates will absolutely rocket at a rate not even seen in the first wave, it’s now more contagious, plus we have a whole fall and winter season ahead, unlike it happening before at the end of the season.

In the thread that Jazz wrote, he has it spot on for phase 5, which I can see occurring before the year is out. ICU cases are quickly rising here, this is then reflected in the death rates.

In answer to your question. Read here what Jazz has outlined for phase 5

Thread: PHASES OF A PANDEMIC OUTBREAK

I should make a correction. The cases per 100,000 was for EU countries

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Thanks DR. I was worried that might be the case. Zero Hedge just said that the doctor who published that paper got their Twitter account suspended...doesn’t bode well. Stay healthy.

This is one of my thoughts, someone fucked up and it got out.

Or, it was released intentionally. It's not going to wipe out civilization, but they can play it to push more control and they can get rid of liabilities in the process.
Think of the elderly and the weak.
Liabilities, they cost the States lots of money.

Associated Press India surpasses 5 million coronavirus cases, 82,066 deaths

NEW DELHI (AP) — India’s coronavirus confirmed cases crossed 5 million on Wednesday, still soaring and testing the country’s feeble health care system in tens of thousands of impoverished towns and villages.


I bet the real numbers are a lot worse, as DR says it's not just the covid, but all of the other medical services that are not being performed right now.

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I find it a coincidence that the uk are having problems with testing capacity right at the time when everyone always catches a cold. Isn’t it the case that the tests would come back positive for people with a cold, with it also being a type of corona virus? Lots of people are ill right now with the usual back to school colds so this would massively inflate the number of positive tests if all could access one.

Undoubtedly created in a lab and released at the precise month of the precise year in the precise location. You need to factor in all the evidence and as always this is a multi faceted campaign. One aspect is:Martial law globally must be in place before the cosmic event. So before next May this will absolutely occur. Much sooner tho imo.

I can see the spin so clearly being played out in the UK. They will say and do everything to not cause panic and hinder any real effective approach to solve the issue. All the while doing all they can to ensure maximum spread. I think back to January and February. All international travel could have been banned. It wasn’t, as there was/is an international effort to make sure this spreads and does its job.

The numbers are always dubious one way or another too.

So checked in today and it was yet another record for daily infections in Czech 1674 this puts it on par with places like Spain and France per million of people (in this current phase). I’ll leave doing the updates for a while as I could be posting records everyday now. I’ll gather the weeks info and compile it next time.

When did you guys reopened the schools?


If it was September 14th, like other former commie countries, well, expect these numbers to be dwarfed in 2 weeks, because if these are the numbers before schools were reopened, it's pretty fucking bad.

1,500+ cases a day for a country of 11 million, before schools reopened, will lead to 4k+ cases / day by mid-October.

Such numbers are unsustainable by the healthcare system.


Czechia will have to lock-down before November...pretty much like everyone.

Last Edited by Recollector on 09/16/2020 06:24 AM

news from Spain, there will be new restrictions introduced soon, starting on the weekend. Around Madrid they have 339/100,000 cases, which is insane.

The lockdown in Israel will be done earlier for schools starting tomorrow, as numbers are soaring.

Best I can find is Sept 1st

“Of course, we hear what people say,” he said, adding that the latest changes have been announced in time as 12 days are still left until the September 1 start of the new school year, when the face masks duty will take effect in the aforementioned selected premises

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Malta hit 106 cases today (new record), in a country of half a million.

Schools open in 12 days' time, but the teachers want to delay the opening.

Well I asked my partner. The schools opened proper on September 1st as far as I understand, that was certainly the case for this town, it’s possible other areas were later, I can’t find out myself and this is not a popular topic as a whole at home lol, but yeah I’d say September 1st.

She’s Also a nursery teacher. The nurseries also opened proper on September 1st. But she went back for the last week of august, so there was a trickle of nursery students from around that point.

The routine for the nursery is to take temperatures in the morning +face masks in the pick up/lobby area. If any child is displaying any type of sickness, they are told not to come in, and must not come back for 10 days. As you know full well this is futile as the virus can lay undetected for three weeks +.

There is no testing routine, certainly in this town. The local doctor will only recommended you go to hospital if you were properly ill, like breathing issues I imagine. That would also be the only scenario you’d get tested too. So many potentially could have the virus and just be sent home, probably advised to lay low, but there would be no proper organization or procedure imo, I mean that would easily leave it open for someone infected to just go about their business.

Funny you say that, but I had the 4K figure in my head for some reason. But without any calculations (I just going by observing the graph pattern) I can imagine it being even higher than that.

The scene is set here. I know many out there will be taking this seriously, but the majority simply don’t care or are ignorant of just how contagious this can be, which will also present itself in the rates.

Yep the same people were saying that in the Spanish flu. Look how that went. Not big in researching I assume? You’ve waded past a whole thread of prime info. The death rates will manifest. See my recent posts. Where I am is (has proved) precisely what DR is outlining.

You remind me of my mother in law. Clueless.

As I’m on here posting I’ll go ahead and add this. At the halfway point in the day, the tally for czech reads 1290 (which is the highest I’ve ever seen at the halfway point) (again) yesterday’s halfway point record was 965 and was an end tally of 1674.

So where the heck could that figure end up? In the 2k’s maybe? I don’t know as it’s new territory. Death rates are consistently higher than they have registered for months, so even if they go up, up, then down kind of style, overall they’re coming through proper now. ICU is building by the day. And all percentages are going up.

Around to 2k, yes, for today.


So, you guys reopened schools on September 1st...dang, no wonder the numbers are soaring.


This is bad, 4k / day by the end of this month (not by mid-October), unless schools start to close asap.

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Thanks for the updates as ever.
You been right since the start.

Can you explain or expand on how or why Sweden is doing ok.

Is it due to the 2nd wave that the rest of the eu is seeing has not got going.

This country is being held up as the gold standard on how to control it.
Any ideas on them and the uptick i think the schools went back weeks ago as well.

2,136 today for Czechia.


That is 16 days after schools reopened.



I will add Czechia on my watch list, until October 5th. I really want to see the impact of one month of schools on a country that was spared almost entirely in the first wave.


If Czechia numbers will rise all the way up to October 5th, and reach a daily case count of 5k min. to 6k max., they will lose control of the pandemic by October 15th.

Last Edited by Recollector on 09/16/2020 07:52 PM

What is happening in Sweden is irrelevant. Doesn't matter.

For the same reason it doesn't matter how Latvia or another 50+ countries are doing, which are all doing it way better then Sweden.



Sweden is what you can call "fake news". Pretty much everything from Sweden is fake, from their number of cases, their number of dead to the blatant lie of "Sweden did not locked-down".


They did locked-down. A LOT.


And there is the cultural part, Swedes are probably the most indifferent and colder (pun not intended) people ever. They barely talk and socialize, compared to most other people. They are also socialist, and listen to what the government told them to do.

They are also an isolated country : no tourism, no transport hub.


There a gazillion reasons why nobody can do what Sweden did.


It is impossible.


Sweden is used by the hoaxers to prove something that is not real.

Last Edited by Recollector on 09/16/2020 07:59 PM

Thanks, everyone, for contributing to this discussion (and particularly to DR, for starting and maintaining it). This is a very valuable thread.
I'm fortunate in that the school where I teach is staying digital through the spring semester, at least .... which is a damn good thing, since we're still in a pretty infected area. CA is out of tests again.... sigh. You can still get one, but they're hard to come by. My county is showing the highest numbers in the SF Bay Area. I'm glad we have the good sense not to try to return any time in the near future. At present, we're trying to cope with really horrendous air quality due to the smoke, which is probably masking symptoms of COVID, since we all feel like we have a cold.

Don't stress the RW contributions on the other thread ... I think most of us who are regulars there take his analyses with a huge grain of salt. I'm not sure what he has invested in trying to make things look better than they are, but it's a pattern, and we've all seen it. I don't think any of us looks to him for data analysis ... or, few do, in any event.

Thanks for the info on how to pin a thread. I managed to do it once, but then didn't know how I did it ... I guess the key is to go to page one, which is what I was missing. I found this thread easily tonight, just by typing in Chinese Virus ... it popped right up. I know that isn't always the case, though, and this is a thread I do want to follow.

I assume you are talking here about the US specifically. But I also assume it will be similar for Europe, won't it?

Yes, same for Europe.


But it looks increasingly probable that schools will close earlier than mid-October, at least in Europe.

Who is RW?

Anyway, I believe everyone should have a right to reach his/her own conclusions.

I am always suspicious of people telling me "don't listen to that guy,..."

Most Belgian universities are opening under code orange rater than code yellow as directed by the authorities, and politicians are disapproving.

What are the European countries which will be least struck by this second wave do you think, OP?