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How do you bookmark it?
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I think he means that he saved in his active threads.
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Well how do you do that? Lol.
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Just commenting on a thread includes that thread in your “active threads”. It stays in the list for 7 days, and the count resets every time you comment on the thread again, so all you need to do for having the thread permanently in your list is bumping it once a week. You can always remove a thread on your active threads list if you want.

The Icon for your active threads is in the main page of GLP, right besides the post new thread Icon. It works for anyone with an account, not even a paid account.

For ease of access I keep my Active Threads list Always open In a tab of my browser, and the main page in other. I refresh each one whenever I want to check what’s up at GLP.
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THANK YOU!!!

My "active threads" icon is not on the main page next to the "post new thread" icon. I had to click on the "favorites" icon to get to the "active threads" icon. But it works! This thread was in there.

Hope this helps someone who keeps losing the thread. :)
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I think he means that he saved in his active threads.
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Well how do you do that? Lol.
 Quoting: Serenity Now


Just commenting on a thread includes that thread in your “active threads”. It stays in the list for 7 days, and the count resets every time you comment on the thread again, so all you need to do for having the thread permanently in your list is bumping it once a week. You can always remove a thread on your active threads list if you want.

The Icon for your active threads is in the main page of GLP, right besides the post new thread Icon. It works for anyone with an account, not even a paid account.

For ease of access I keep my Active Threads list Always open In a tab of my browser, and the main page in other. I refresh each one whenever I want to check what’s up at GLP.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe



THANK YOU!!!

My "active threads" icon is not on the main page next to the "post new thread" icon. I had to click on the "favorites" icon to get to the "active threads" icon. But it works! This thread was in there.

Hope this helps someone who keeps losing the thread. :)
 Quoting: Serenity Now


Well, you have a different forum skin perhaps, but Glad you found it! :D
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You can just bookmark it/pin it in your browser :)
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SPAIN changes how cases are counted.

Data are provisional and subject to change. From Sept. 7 onward, figures for daily new cases only include cases already validated by the Ministry of Health in the daily PDF report. Since the validation process takes time to complete, additional cases are expected to be added retroactively once the weekly historical dataset revision is released by the Ministry of Health on Friday, Sept. 18. Data up to Sept. 6 reflects the latest release of the official "Historical Series of Cases by Autonomous Community" dataset released by the Ministry of Health
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I’ve been checking in on the updates for czech. So far at the halfway point in the day, it says 9 deaths, so I’d imagine this could/should increase come the final tally in the morning.

So if it stays at 9, this would be the highest reading since April 30th, I’m expecting this to rise though.

So this is the point I’ve been observing for. Finally it seems the death rates have now registered, as did the infection rate a certain time after opening. It may not sound like much in comparison to other countries, but it’s starting a new period here. Also it may be used as a gauge for future predictions time wise.

Also thought I’d mention I couldn’t find your thread DR. Of course it’s still here, but could it be that it’s hidden in the searches? I typed in enough relevant words to find it, usually this would work. Just a thought.
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If you do an advanced search at the top of the screen, you can search his name and find his thread and also see his posts on other threads. That's what I do. :)
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Yeah that’s what I did and nothing.. listen I’ve had my threads and images of sky anomalies removed enough to know how it works here. So the fact that this isn’t registering many times on advanced search tells my conspiratorial mind that this info is attempted to be slightly hidden, which speaks volumes as to its content, at this stage in the game. Noteworthy.
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You can just bookmark it/pin it in your browser :)
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That is what I do and then go into "properties" (right click on the listing in your bookmarks - for your internet browser), then go to the "location" field (if using Firefox) then right arrow to the end of the URL and update the last page you looked at. Then hit save.

That way if more pages were added since you were here last you can pick up where you left off.

A little tedious, but easier than using the search function on this website.
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So , basically we just need to comment to keep the thrread in our "active threads" box....
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So , basically we just need to comment to keep the thrread in our "active threads" box....
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yes, or go to page one of the op, under DR's name there is a item called "add to personal pins" click that and it will always be at the top of the main forum, even if you don't post, you can still go to the last page of this thread.
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I think he means that he saved in his active threads.
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Well how do you do that? Lol.
 Quoting: Serenity Now


Just commenting on a thread includes that thread in your “active threads”. It stays in the list for 7 days, and the count resets every time you comment on the thread again, so all you need to do for having the thread permanently in your list is bumping it once a week. You can always remove a thread on your active threads list if you want.

The Icon for your active threads is in the main page of GLP, right besides the post new thread Icon. It works for anyone with an account, not even a paid account.

For ease of access I keep my Active Threads list Always open In a tab of my browser, and the main page in other. I refresh each one whenever I want to check what’s up at GLP.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe



THANK YOU!!!

My "active threads" icon is not on the main page next to the "post new thread" icon. I had to click on the "favorites" icon to get to the "active threads" icon. But it works! This thread was in there.

Hope this helps someone who keeps losing the thread. :)
 Quoting: Serenity Now


you have an active account just put in your personal pins. when you log on it will be at the top of first page...ooopps sorry I see info was already posted

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So , basically we just need to comment to keep the thrread in our "active threads" box....
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yes, or go to page one of the op, under DR's name there is a item called "add to personal pins" click that and it will always be at the top of the main forum, even if you don't post, you can still go to the last page of this thread.
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Well, true, but only available to upgraded accounts.

Now, Regarding the data of Spain, I have noted that the authorities started to heavily handle the data release to suit the political agenda. A relative of my wife is policeman in Spain and he says they are appalled how brazen the manipulation of data to support school reopening has been, and, because of many parents don’t wanting to send the kids back to school, the threats of the Authorities have gone up to forced removal from houses and loss of child custody if parents don’t agree to have kids back to school.
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So , basically we just need to comment to keep the thrread in our "active threads" box....
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yes, or go to page one of the op, under DR's name there is a item called "add to personal pins" click that and it will always be at the top of the main forum, even if you don't post, you can still go to the last page of this thread.
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Well, true, but only available to upgraded accounts.

Now, Regarding the data of Spain, I have noted that the authorities started to heavily handle the data release to suit the political agenda. A relative of my wife is policeman in Spain and he says they are appalled how brazen the manipulation of data to support school reopening has been, and, because of many parents don’t wanting to send the kids back to school, the threats of the Authorities have gone up to forced removal from houses and loss of child custody if parents don’t agree to have kids back to school.
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OH sorry I couldn't remember if it was only for upgraded or if registered users could do it also, my bad.
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So , basically we just need to comment to keep the thrread in our "active threads" box....
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yes, or go to page one of the op, under DR's name there is a item called "add to personal pins" click that and it will always be at the top of the main forum, even if you don't post, you can still go to the last page of this thread.
 Quoting: Storm2come


Well, true, but only available to upgraded accounts.

Now, Regarding the data of Spain, I have noted that the authorities started to heavily handle the data release to suit the political agenda. A relative of my wife is policeman in Spain and he says they are appalled how brazen the manipulation of data to support school reopening has been, and, because of many parents don’t wanting to send the kids back to school, the threats of the Authorities have gone up to forced removal from houses and loss of child custody if parents don’t agree to have kids back to school.
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OH sorry I couldn't remember if it was only for upgraded or if registered users could do it also, my bad.
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No worries. Upgraded accounts can also add Threads to favorites.
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Second wave of coronavirus may arrive in spring, not winter, one scientist says

A Texas scientist predicts a second wave of coronavirus will occur in the spring and not the winter months.

Professor Ben Neuman, chairman of biological sciences at Texas A&M University-Texarkana said coronaviruses commonly “peak” in the spring months, according to a Yahoo report.

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Neuman, also a visiting associate professor at the University of Reading, said experts are predicting the second wave for the winter months based on the flu virus which peaks in the winter. But Neuman said most viruses are not as seasonal as the influenza virus, according to the report.


Comment: I don't think seasonality as much to do with it, as much as reopening schools and businesses.
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Very likely. I believe what we are currently seeing is another surge of the first wave, with a second wave coming late 2020 early 2021.
 Quoting: The Gathering Storm



This is just semantics.

A wave is nothing but a rise in cases, no matter when this is happening, seasonally or not.

We are in the second wave already.


We had a rise in cases in March, a drop between may and July, and now a rise again that started in August.


If it looks like wave, and acts like a wave...it's a wave.


Everything else is semantics.
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I think a difference should be made between a wave and wavelets. In Belgium at first was thought the second wave was occurring in July but they know now it was just a wavelet without real impact as the real second wave has started about a week ago and numbers are now rising significantly again.
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Guys, I need your help with information from your countries regarding hiring personal for emergency services.

Romania is hiring, temporarily, without exam, for the duration of the pandemic (this is the official announcement), roughly 500 drivers and 500 other personal for emergency services.

I don't know how emergency services in other countries are structured, but the ISU drivers in Romania are used (among other things) for transporting patients (supplementing ambulance services), including Covid-19 ones.

This never happened before in Romania, hiring without exam and w/o any special skill related to emergency services and in all counties in same time.


Another thing is that this started on Monday, and the deadline to apply for the jobs is September 13th, which means they need those jobs filled asap, and before October.


I like to know if something similar is happening in your countries, because there is no way that only Romania is basically doubling their emergency services drivers all of a sudden.


Thanks.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


In Italy nothing similar is happening. There has been a massive hiring of Healthcare personnel in March and April

Perhaps in Romania there was a lack of personnel in emergency services... I wouldn't be surprised
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Nope, that isn't the case. It is a very sought job, with wages that are 2 to 3 times median wage in Romania.


The timing (which is this week), the reason (temporary jobs for pandemic duration), the number of jobs, especially for drivers (500) and the fact that all counties are hiring is what is way out of the ordinary.


Italy most likely filled their positions in March, and kept the people, so, no reasons to hire more.
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I have a hypothesis which may seem unlikely and a bit strange to you at first sight, but give it some thought. I think it is very well possible they are doing this to give a certain category of people the opportunity to make a lot of money - in any case earn much more than they would normally. Give it some thought.
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Dr i think 7k cases/day is already enough serious. Don't you?
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Not really.


France today: 9,843.
Spain today : 10,764.


Still not worried.


I will be when they have 12-13k cases/day...which should be next week probably.


These are the numbers I expect the week to be in France and Spain, with 15k/day the week after next.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


You can start your worrying a little early, DR...

Spain +12,183

damned
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Friday is always the day with highest numbers. Sure, Spain have 12k+ today, and France will most likely have around 11k today.

I am expecting this for today.


However, I will worry when such numbers will be next week, on Tue, Wed, Thu and Friday.


But it's not about France and Spain only. There are another 10 countries in Europe with spikes this week, 3 of them with massive spikes.


The pandemic will grow in Europe, as I said since June. It will start in in the beginning of August, it will slowly build until end of August, it will grow significantly in the first half of September (all this already happened) and it will explode all over Europe in October.


By mid-October, it will be decision time : lock-down or not.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector

Maybe it is time to start worrying now. I live in Belgium and they say this second wave will be worse than the first one as now, the coronavirus is everywhere. The same, I guess is true for most other countries.

What if the numbers really start to peak a few weeks from now? What if they go on climbing? What if this time, ECU's (emergence care units) REALLY get overwhelmed and again choices have to be made as to who is worth saving and who is not?

How will this affect society, the economy, people's income? Will there be many people losing their job? Maybe losing their homes, become homeless?

Maybe we should starting thinking in earnest about what the course of events could be in such a scenario - so as to avoid maximally to be taken by surprise.

And if possible, on a country per country basis. Other threads should be opened for this I assume.
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What factors need to happen for the mad max world?

What are the key to this
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I will go into detail about this on October 11th.


Atm, the situation is evolving as I am expecting it, but it must continue for another month, before I can be sure on the pandemic and / or lock-down half of the equation.

The other side is a destabilization of the U.S., but this is not something that can be predicted. It might happen, or not, but if it will, it will be fast, in a matter of days.


And there is another factor, which atm is unknown : food shortages.


Many things have to converge, for a mad-max scenario to happen.


Things will be much clearer around mid-October, for better or for worse.
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This is the most worrying, as far as I am concerned. There will always be a certain point when people will kill for food, and some rather earlier than later.


When will the shelves in the supermarkets stop being refurbished? When will the first big rush occur?

These are things to start preparing for NOW - not waiting for things to get clearer.

And I don't mean emptying the shelves as this is exactly what will accelerate the whole thing. It should be done intelligently, in small increments and spread out over time.

It was all very well in control, particularly in Belgium where I live, but this time around it might be different. Just one stage further than the first time might change the whole game.
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Maybe it is time to start worrying now. I live in Belgium and they say this second wave will be worse than the first one as now, the coronavirus is everywhere. The same, I guess is true for most other countries.

What if the numbers really start to peak a few weeks from now? What if they go on climbing? What if this time, ECU's (emergence care units) REALLY get overwhelmed and again choices have to be made as to who is worth saving and who is not?

How will this affect society, the economy, people's income? Will there be many people losing their job? Maybe losing their homes, become homeless?

Maybe we should starting thinking in earnest about what the course of events could be in such a scenario - so as to avoid maximally to be taken by surprise.

And if possible, on a country per country basis. Other threads should be opened for this I assume.
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The numbers will go up quite a bit by the end of this months. This is at least what I expect to happen, and this is what I predicted to happen, because, well, schools reopening and people going back to work from summer vacations.

But the rise in September, while significant, won't be the peak.October will see massive exponential rise in cases everywhere in Europe, as well as in the U.S....unless schools will be mostly online.


I repeat what I have said multiple times in the last weeks : if most schools stay open in person through October, if nation-wide lock-downs aren't in place by the end of October (and this is the very last possible moment in time that might stop the pandemic) and most people will go to work and use mass transit once the cold season starts (after mid-October usually is cold enough to lower the immune system), we will see how a pandemic really looks like.

What we had until now was a glimpse...



There are only 2 possible outcomes come November : second nation-wide lock-down or we keep going and let the virus do it's thing.


How will the society react?


This is the answer I am trying to find for months now, because it is the only thing that matters, and having this answer before anyone else, helps us prepare better and earlier then the masses.


I have yet to find this answer, but I hope that by mid-October there will be enough reactions in society regarding the evolution of the pandemic.


As for lock-downs, the society reaction will depend on WHEN the lock-downs will be implemented (if they will be implemented).
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Israel will lockdown, us won't (at least for now)
Since the pandemic is bad in both countries, which do you think are the reasons for such different choices?
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Our school district started off with online instruction. We don't have many cases, and so, there is talk of returning to in-person instruction come the middle of October. No way will I be sending my child. I am starting to have fun with homeschooling and seeing how many gaps exist in my child's education thus far is sad.
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Appreciate your work OP. Just curious if the latest study that provides evidence that Covid was engineered in the lab has any baring on what we can expect going forward. Is it a study we can trust? Would it makes things better combatting it, worse or does it matter?
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Appreciate your work OP. Just curious if the latest study that provides evidence that Covid was engineered in the lab has any baring on what we can expect going forward. Is it a study we can trust? Would it makes things better combatting it, worse or does it matter?
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The only thing that matters in the man-made vs natural virus is the ability to have a proper vaccine.

Leaving aside that a proper vaccine is 3 years away (if we break all the records), if this virus is man-made, there won't be any vaccine. And this is the "good" news.


The bad news is that if this is indeed a man-made virus, we're screwed, because a biological weapon have a single purpose : to win a war without firing a single shot, by destroying your enemy ability to wage war.


Which means either massive deaths, either massive hospitalizations, either social collapse forced by massive quarantines.



But we might be lucky and if this is a man-made virus which was accidentally released, it might not be that good as a bio-weapon.

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I was going to wait until tomorrow to make this post. But as I’m reading this now I’ll go ahead. Yesterday I commented how we recorded the highest death rate since April 30th during the first wave.

Today’s death figures that I’m reading, at what I’ve referred to as the half way point of the day, are currently saying 11 (which tips yesterday’s record which came in at 9) so the last time a reading was this high, was 18 (‘the record’ which was a one time event at the first peak, which occurred April 14th) so it could rise further when I check in again tomorrow as I always do.

Either way that states a lot. I fully understand what’s occurring here thanks to following this thread since the start. We should be ahead of the game in Europe as it was an early opener. I also checked in on the populations with highest infection rates to 100,000 people, and czech is in third place in Europe behind Spain and France:

Spain 270.7 France 153.9 Czech 111 per 100,000

It will be a unique scenario and one to keep an eye on. As the first wave barely registered here as anything significant compared to other countries. This has then led to an extra disregard for what’s happening, as people think it somehow missed this place. To think we have people in the US still claiming it’s fake etc, but generally people in higher affected countries have more familiarity with what’s going on. Well here, those deniers are more exaggerated in my experience and plus there was never a first wave to properly focus minds in general.

The damage has been caused already during summer I feel, and we still have good weather and I see events locally that have been had and are to go ahead. So the potential is still there and no one seems phased by the uptick.

I know it’s still early days, but I’ve checked on the data everyday through summer and beyond. I’m very familiar with the slightest subtle changes, what I’m seeing with the pattern is a stark uptick. It’s going exponential. Btw potentially today’s figures are also on par to break the record yet again for daily infections. I’m looking forward to DR’s mid October date, without lockdown every week leading till then should be dramatic. I’ll continue to update. Definitely on a roll here now.
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Not really.


France today: 9,843.
Spain today : 10,764.


Still not worried.


I will be when they have 12-13k cases/day...which should be next week probably.


These are the numbers I expect the week to be in France and Spain, with 15k/day the week after next.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


You can start your worrying a little early, DR...

Spain +12,183

damned
 Quoting: Vegz




Friday is always the day with highest numbers. Sure, Spain have 12k+ today, and France will most likely have around 11k today.

I am expecting this for today.


However, I will worry when such numbers will be next week, on Tue, Wed, Thu and Friday.


But it's not about France and Spain only. There are another 10 countries in Europe with spikes this week, 3 of them with massive spikes.


The pandemic will grow in Europe, as I said since June. It will start in in the beginning of August, it will slowly build until end of August, it will grow significantly in the first half of September (all this already happened) and it will explode all over Europe in October.


By mid-October, it will be decision time : lock-down or not.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector

Maybe it is time to start worrying now. I live in Belgium and they say this second wave will be worse than the first one as now, the coronavirus is everywhere. The same, I guess is true for most other countries.

What if the numbers really start to peak a few weeks from now? What if they go on climbing? What if this time, ECU's (emergence care units) REALLY get overwhelmed and again choices have to be made as to who is worth saving and who is not?

How will this affect society, the economy, people's income? Will there be many people losing their job? Maybe losing their homes, become homeless?

Maybe we should starting thinking in earnest about what the course of events could be in such a scenario - so as to avoid maximally to be taken by surprise.

And if possible, on a country per country basis. Other threads should be opened for this I assume.
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Places like Italy UK were ahead in the first wave. We saw what happened there. They are due to have higher waves no doubt. The media there is downplaying the low death rates to lull people to lower their guard (as the death rates haven’t registered yet) what I’m seeing here in Czech tells me the rates will rise everywhere else in the same fashion, but they’re downplaying it as much as they can til the last moment.

I have family in UK and Spain and have a rounded idea of all the media approaches for each country. As I said above, czech should be a litmus test for other countries. All seems to be going ahead as per DR has stated. It is time to prepare (not worry that won’t help) but all is on the cards.

Imo the rates will absolutely rocket at a rate not even seen in the first wave, it’s now more contagious, plus we have a whole fall and winter season ahead, unlike it happening before at the end of the season.

In the thread that Jazz wrote, he has it spot on for phase 5, which I can see occurring before the year is out. ICU cases are quickly rising here, this is then reflected in the death rates.

In answer to your question. Read here what Jazz has outlined for phase 5

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I should make a correction. The cases per 100,000 was for EU countries
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Appreciate your work OP. Just curious if the latest study that provides evidence that Covid was engineered in the lab has any baring on what we can expect going forward. Is it a study we can trust? Would it makes things better combatting it, worse or does it matter?
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The only thing that matters in the man-made vs natural virus is the ability to have a proper vaccine.

Leaving aside that a proper vaccine is 3 years away (if we break all the records), if this virus is man-made, there won't be any vaccine. And this is the "good" news.


The bad news is that if this is indeed a man-made virus, we're screwed, because a biological weapon have a single purpose : to win a war without firing a single shot, by destroying your enemy ability to wage war.


Which means either massive deaths, either massive hospitalizations, either social collapse forced by massive quarantines.



But we might be lucky and if this is a man-made virus which was accidentally released, it might not be that good as a bio-weapon.
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Thanks DR. I was worried that might be the case. Zero Hedge just said that the doctor who published that paper got their Twitter account suspended...doesn’t bode well. Stay healthy.
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Appreciate your work OP. Just curious if the latest study that provides evidence that Covid was engineered in the lab has any baring on what we can expect going forward. Is it a study we can trust? Would it makes things better combatting it, worse or does it matter?
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The only thing that matters in the man-made vs natural virus is the ability to have a proper vaccine.

Leaving aside that a proper vaccine is 3 years away (if we break all the records), if this virus is man-made, there won't be any vaccine. And this is the "good" news.


The bad news is that if this is indeed a man-made virus, we're screwed, because a biological weapon have a single purpose : to win a war without firing a single shot, by destroying your enemy ability to wage war.


Which means either massive deaths, either massive hospitalizations, either social collapse forced by massive quarantines.



But we might be lucky and if this is a man-made virus which was accidentally released, it might not be that good as a bio-weapon.
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This is one of my thoughts, someone fucked up and it got out.

Or, it was released intentionally. It's not going to wipe out civilization, but they can play it to push more control and they can get rid of liabilities in the process.
Think of the elderly and the weak.
Liabilities, they cost the States lots of money.
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NEW DELHI (AP) — India’s coronavirus confirmed cases crossed 5 million on Wednesday, still soaring and testing the country’s feeble health care system in tens of thousands of impoverished towns and villages.


I bet the real numbers are a lot worse, as DR says it's not just the covid, but all of the other medical services that are not being performed right now.

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You can start your worrying a little early, DR...

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Friday is always the day with highest numbers. Sure, Spain have 12k+ today, and France will most likely have around 11k today.

I am expecting this for today.


However, I will worry when such numbers will be next week, on Tue, Wed, Thu and Friday.


But it's not about France and Spain only. There are another 10 countries in Europe with spikes this week, 3 of them with massive spikes.


The pandemic will grow in Europe, as I said since June. It will start in in the beginning of August, it will slowly build until end of August, it will grow significantly in the first half of September (all this already happened) and it will explode all over Europe in October.


By mid-October, it will be decision time : lock-down or not.
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Maybe it is time to start worrying now. I live in Belgium and they say this second wave will be worse than the first one as now, the coronavirus is everywhere. The same, I guess is true for most other countries.

What if the numbers really start to peak a few weeks from now? What if they go on climbing? What if this time, ECU's (emergence care units) REALLY get overwhelmed and again choices have to be made as to who is worth saving and who is not?

How will this affect society, the economy, people's income? Will there be many people losing their job? Maybe losing their homes, become homeless?

Maybe we should starting thinking in earnest about what the course of events could be in such a scenario - so as to avoid maximally to be taken by surprise.

And if possible, on a country per country basis. Other threads should be opened for this I assume.
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Places like Italy UK were ahead in the first wave. We saw what happened there. They are due to have higher waves no doubt. The media there is downplaying the low death rates to lull people to lower their guard (as the death rates haven’t registered yet) what I’m seeing here in Czech tells me the rates will rise everywhere else in the same fashion, but they’re downplaying it as much as they can til the last moment.

I have family in UK and Spain and have a rounded idea of all the media approaches for each country. As I said above, czech should be a litmus test for other countries. All seems to be going ahead as per DR has stated. It is time to prepare (not worry that won’t help) but all is on the cards.

Imo the rates will absolutely rocket at a rate not even seen in the first wave, it’s now more contagious, plus we have a whole fall and winter season ahead, unlike it happening before at the end of the season.

In the thread that Jazz wrote, he has it spot on for phase 5, which I can see occurring before the year is out. ICU cases are quickly rising here, this is then reflected in the death rates.

In answer to your question. Read here what Jazz has outlined for phase 5

Thread: PHASES OF A PANDEMIC OUTBREAK
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I find it a coincidence that the uk are having problems with testing capacity right at the time when everyone always catches a cold. Isn’t it the case that the tests would come back positive for people with a cold, with it also being a type of corona virus? Lots of people are ill right now with the usual back to school colds so this would massively inflate the number of positive tests if all could access one.
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Appreciate your work OP. Just curious if the latest study that provides evidence that Covid was engineered in the lab has any baring on what we can expect going forward. Is it a study we can trust? Would it makes things better combatting it, worse or does it matter?
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The only thing that matters in the man-made vs natural virus is the ability to have a proper vaccine.

Leaving aside that a proper vaccine is 3 years away (if we break all the records), if this virus is man-made, there won't be any vaccine. And this is the "good" news.


The bad news is that if this is indeed a man-made virus, we're screwed, because a biological weapon have a single purpose : to win a war without firing a single shot, by destroying your enemy ability to wage war.


Which means either massive deaths, either massive hospitalizations, either social collapse forced by massive quarantines.



But we might be lucky and if this is a man-made virus which was accidentally released, it might not be that good as a bio-weapon.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector

This is one of my thoughts, someone fucked up and it got out.

Or, it was released intentionally. It's not going to wipe out civilization, but they can play it to push more control and they can get rid of liabilities in the process.
Think of the elderly and the weak.
Liabilities, they cost the States lots of money.
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Undoubtedly created in a lab and released at the precise month of the precise year in the precise location. You need to factor in all the evidence and as always this is a multi faceted campaign. One aspect is:Martial law globally must be in place before the cosmic event. So before next May this will absolutely occur. Much sooner tho imo.





GLP