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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79389824 09/18/2020 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks, everyone, for contributing to this discussion (and particularly to DR, for starting and maintaining it). This is a very valuable thread. Quoting: Doommonkey I'm fortunate in that the school where I teach is staying digital through the spring semester, at least .... which is a damn good thing, since we're still in a pretty infected area. CA is out of tests again.... sigh. You can still get one, but they're hard to come by. My county is showing the highest numbers in the SF Bay Area. I'm glad we have the good sense not to try to return any time in the near future. At present, we're trying to cope with really horrendous air quality due to the smoke, which is probably masking symptoms of COVID, since we all feel like we have a cold. Don't stress the RW contributions on the other thread ... I think most of us who are regulars there take his analyses with a huge grain of salt. I'm not sure what he has invested in trying to make things look better than they are, but it's a pattern, and we've all seen it. I don't think any of us looks to him for data analysis ... or, few do, in any event. Thanks for the info on how to pin a thread. I managed to do it once, but then didn't know how I did it ... I guess the key is to go to page one, which is what I was missing. I found this thread easily tonight, just by typing in Chinese Virus ... it popped right up. I know that isn't always the case, though, and this is a thread I do want to follow. He wants stability..... just like everyone else. And he is worried about his dad. My heart goes out for him. |
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User ID: 71427568 United Kingdom 09/19/2020 12:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Checking in from Salzburg area of Austria. Both the local junior schools in the locale have closed due to a big spike in cases at both schools, no media reporting. The problem is we know many people with kids there and have had contact with them and now come to find out they should be self isolating but haven’t bothered. They’ve just carried on as normal, thinking closing the school is sufficient to stop the spread. My family have been told a hospital in Vienna is already at max capacity due to corona. |
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User ID: 59390060 United States 09/19/2020 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | H1N1 was just a flu, too, but it was a very bad one. Even a flu could cause a lot of problems with hospitals already at capacity. We're going to have flu season in the US, and since people aren't abiding by safety measures, it'll be a huge mess. People won't know if they have the flu, COVID, or both .. and it will clog up the hospitals. Looks like freedom but it feels like death. It's something in between I guess... it's closing time. Lenonard Cohen |
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User ID: 79391989 Italy 09/19/2020 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Italian regions to ease more Covid-19 restrictions Veneto and Emilia Romagna regions will open soccer stadiums for a maximum of 1000 supporters. [link to www.repubblica.it (secure)] Personal note: I expect more regions to take the same decision in a short time. You know... There are only two things that are more important than health, for italians: food and soccer. Ad Omnia Paratus |
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User ID: 77771189 United States 09/19/2020 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | how is the public there in the EU taking this? are they being proactive with PPE? or walking around living as thou nothing is happening? when or how has their minset changed? JAZZZ50 2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out. we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth. if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars. |
JAZZz50
User ID: 77771189 United States 09/19/2020 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The virus circulating in Italy is still the old one (the one from March, with a positivity rate of 1-2%) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79391998 The virus that is invading western and Central Europe is the American one (with a rate of 10%) Perhaps Italy has gained some immunity against the new virus thanks to the severity of the previous outbreak But didn't the "American" one originate in Italy? Predominantly blowing up in New York due to high travel between the US and Italy (NY has a large Italian population). Yes, that's why new york has a low number of cases New York is the exact proof of what I'm saying. Like Italy it has been severely hit in March and now despite the outbreaks in other US states has very few cases I suppose the 'American one'has originated in Mexico or Central America rural NY STATE is at wave 1 and climbing steadily. low #'s for now but climbing.with schools opening we are seeing more cases. JAZZZ50 2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out. we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth. if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars. |
JAZZz50
User ID: 77771189 United States 09/19/2020 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I did read Jazz's thread, and replied to it. Quoting: deplorable recollector Pretty much what he described as phases, from a different perspective, is kinds true. As much as we don't like it, we are in the midst of Jazz's Phase 5. thank you. yes,i don't think anyone could have predicted the state of stuck in limbo we have been at this whole year. most thought doom would b quicker. the lockdowns and travel restrictions did help delay things. phase 5 is rough and long. as long as the electric grid stays up, the world's governments maintain control and stay in power. they did a lot of work at keeping the ppl calm and working. surprised more medical workers have not quit yet. the govern is hard to predict and the ppl as well. hard to say how long they can keep this pace. my prediction of a billion dead withiin 3 years,wrote back at the beginning,stands. i do worry the # is low. greatest fear here is the grid going down in the cold of winter. millions will die in days. when this is over please do not let the leaders of the world's countries stay in charge. replace them all. JAZZZ50 2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out. we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth. if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79395871 Germany 09/19/2020 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i have used PPE inside the apt building when walking thru even to get the mail. we heard in the beginning hoiw the virus infected ppl via air,surfaces,and even vent pipes. Quoting: JAZZz50 how is the public there in the EU taking this? are they being proactive with PPE? or walking around living as thou nothing is happening? when or how has their minset changed? pretty much anyone is taking off masks when exiting public transport and shops. I haven't seen anyone wearing PPE inside apartment buildings. In my building I am making sure to keep the windows open in the common areas. I think my risk is higher from getting infected via my children bringing it home from school. Nothing that I can do about that. At least the infection rate is (still) low where I live. |
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User ID: 78885608 United States 09/20/2020 12:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | https://twitter.com/_/status/1306683551086268417 Posted in the main thread but very interesting. The UK is currently at 3-4K cases a day. To get to the peak hospitalisations we had before we are going to have to be in the 30-50K cases a day range! Will that happen DR ? Maybe. Hospitalisation is the only figure that really means anything ? Thanks "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79401941 Italy 09/21/2020 07:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Italian regions to ease more Covid-19 restrictions Quoting: Leonero Veneto and Emilia Romagna regions will open soccer stadiums for a maximum of 1000 supporters. [link to www.repubblica.it (secure)] Personal note: I expect more regions to take the same decision in a short time. You know... There are only two things that are more important than health, for italians: food and soccer. "The Serie A stadiums reopen, Piedmont also asks for it for the other categories and all sports" [link to translate.google.it (secure)] (You forgot the third important thing ) |
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User ID: 79401835 Italy 09/21/2020 08:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Italian regions to ease more Covid-19 restrictions Quoting: Leonero Veneto and Emilia Romagna regions will open soccer stadiums for a maximum of 1000 supporters. [link to www.repubblica.it (secure)] Personal note: I expect more regions to take the same decision in a short time. You know... There are only two things that are more important than health, for italians: food and soccer. "The Serie A stadiums reopen, Piedmont also asks for it for the other categories and all sports" [link to translate.google.it (secure)] (You forgot the third important thing ) Hahaha yeah... "italians do it better" However, now is Covid-19 that is fu**ing us very hard I was looking at Spallanzani (first hospital in Rome to study and track the novel coronavirus) hospitalizations: numbers are increasing at a +10% rate everyday. I am pretty sure that re-opening stadiums is just an economical and political move... Some sort of "distraction" in a time that resembles the "quiet before the storm". And I feel that things will get worse rapidly. Government can always play the "We did our best but population didn't respect the Covid restrictions" card. Last Edited by Leonero on 09/21/2020 09:03 AM Ad Omnia Paratus |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78576165 United States 09/21/2020 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Caught this in other thread. I thought the UK was going to resist new Lockdowns and it seems they are already talking of a six months lockdown. The fine for lockdown breach (I got that from yet another thread) would be of up to 13.000 pounds. Interesting if this happens. They're predicting the shit show for October 15th. DR, seems to me they are reading your thread :) We always said we wish that You're wrong. Yet here we are. Last few days of September and Europe is going wild weasel. Do you see trends for US showing another upswing now? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1171822 Canada 09/21/2020 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We're also getting a big increase of cases in Canada. I'm in Ontario and our cases have doubled since last week. Quebec has tripled. They just implemented more restrictions, indoor gathering down to 10 indoors and 25 outdoors, from 50 and 100. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77153496 Czechia 09/21/2020 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well after recording back to back records for daily infection rates recently, Czech numbers have fallen slightly, although still maintaining fairly decent numbers, I expected this, as they (the valiant medical workers etc) try to get a hold of the virus. I’m also expecting a surge again as this virus is hard to tame. Read a few articles recently that said they predict 6-8000k a day potentially within weeks. Lockdowns maybe considered if the r rate goes above 2. This came from the health minister or whatever you’d call it, which btw he resigned today. *I must add though. That as I check the rates daily, things become routine. What did take me by surprise (and prompted me to post) was that at the halfway point today on worldometer, czech has recorded its highest death toll since the peak. There was also another reading in April of 18, a one off day, which holds the record. So it’ll either draw this record or beat it when I check back in the morning. Really quite surprising that, I could see the general uptick, but this has jumped ahead out of nowhere. I wanted to also add this, as many media outlets are touting that atm, or “this wave” is less deadly. I’d like to hear your theory on this DR? I know you haven’t liked to focus solely on this side of the equation, but I feel they are just downplaying it, to get people out there catching it. Then after a certain time the death rates will catch up again. As I’ve said before, czech could be a good gauge of how it will develop elsewhere. It will be curious to now see how the death rate trend goes from here. I’m expecting a bounce back on infections again too. What I’d also like to mention, is that I surmise and sense, that there is a big stinging surprise in store, that will come out of the blue just as this did in January. I remember what I saw in those Chinese videos. It’s now clear how bad China are lying, and also I’m suspecting lies are being told on different levels globally, such as the CDC retracting their claim about it being airborne. I can’t help but think back to a post made on GLP yesterday, where a member shared a dream of a newsreader saying how the virus had turned into hemorrhagic fever (in Brazil and India) and people were coughing blood. Something big is underway imo. Early signs are here. Deceit abounds. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78576165 United States 09/21/2020 05:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well after recording back to back records for daily infection rates recently, Czech numbers have fallen slightly, although still maintaining fairly decent numbers, I expected this, as they (the valiant medical workers etc) try to get a hold of the virus. I’m also expecting a surge again as this virus is hard to tame. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77153496 Read a few articles recently that said they predict 6-8000k a day potentially within weeks. Lockdowns maybe considered if the r rate goes above 2. This came from the health minister or whatever you’d call it, which btw he resigned today. *I must add though. That as I check the rates daily, things become routine. What did take me by surprise (and prompted me to post) was that at the halfway point today on worldometer, czech has recorded its highest death toll since the peak. There was also another reading in April of 18, a one off day, which holds the record. So it’ll either draw this record or beat it when I check back in the morning. Really quite surprising that, I could see the general uptick, but this has jumped ahead out of nowhere. I wanted to also add this, as many media outlets are touting that atm, or “this wave” is less deadly. I’d like to hear your theory on this DR? I know you haven’t liked to focus solely on this side of the equation, but I feel they are just downplaying it, to get people out there catching it. Then after a certain time the death rates will catch up again. As I’ve said before, czech could be a good gauge of how it will develop elsewhere. It will be curious to now see how the death rate trend goes from here. I’m expecting a bounce back on infections again too. What I’d also like to mention, is that I surmise and sense, that there is a big stinging surprise in store, that will come out of the blue just as this did in January. I remember what I saw in those Chinese videos. It’s now clear how bad China are lying, and also I’m suspecting lies are being told on different levels globally, such as the CDC retracting their claim about it being airborne. I can’t help but think back to a post made on GLP yesterday, where a member shared a dream of a newsreader saying how the virus had turned into hemorrhagic fever (in Brazil and India) and people were coughing blood. Something big is underway imo. Early signs are here. Deceit abounds. I share your thoughts on this possible surprise they seem to be holding back. It's as if they downplay and then scare people shitless when it's just about to go haywire. I'm not sure exactly what the reasoning is but in my gut, we are soon going to find out wrapped up with bow like a Xmas gift. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68759456 09/22/2020 05:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can't see the UK doing more than limited curfews and restrictions on home visits. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8366836 That seems to be case and what good will that do - nothing! :UK Keep Calm Sma: Got to agree. So many people could not believe we have restrictions again. I told them all 4 weeks ago it would happen.. Oh look its happening. Next they start with hard lockdowns in local areas. And them too will spread. I think independent sage is following this thread. They said the UK has 2 weeks to sort it out or it will be out of control, which puts us in the timeframe of The 6 weeks that DP said. Also to note, the infection rate in march must have been massive compared to now, So much virus must have been undetected before. We got a long way to go till we reach aprils hosptial issues. The train just slowed that little more to drag it out. |