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WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month

 
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This report is interesting because shows what is purported to be the "worst case scenario" of letting the virus run wildly. It caused 1 in 800 deaths in a city (Manaus) with a rather young population.

It makes the claim that up to 66% of the cityzens got infected. I don't know if that is possible under this scenario.

Another data point for the broader analysis.

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 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


Yes, I read these articles and others that appeared here in Brazilian newspapers. The most populous city in the country, São Paulo, had a total of 17 deaths by covid19 yesterday, and the people there are no longer practicing social distancing and there are no lockdowns. It is the end of pandemic, insisting that there is still a pandemic is stupidity associated with bad faith. As for the countries that are experiencing an increase in cases, it is the countries that entered the pandemic later, who enter later, leave later, it is obvious. In Manaus, the cases and deaths are practically zeroed, which reminds me when the mayor boasted in March that he would dig mass graves in cemeteries due to the thousands of deaths that would die. Here in São Paulo it was no different, the mayor said he bought 40 thousand coffins, that's right, 40 thousand extra coffins for the funeral system. It is an extreme case of impudence that was done with the people. No, I am not a pandemic denier and I do not even say that it was a "nothinburguer", it was a "somethingburguer", but it'sover, and the sooner the people know it, the better.
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It looks like Brazil has finished wave 1. They need to take this time to prepare for wave 2.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith


Maybe.

The article WAS interesting.

But I doubt places like Brazil or New Zealand can be used as a viral metric or a case book litmus test for the majority of the northern hemisphere. It would be less of a challenge for a leader to lockdown an island, or how the leader of Brazil was a poor example of how to conduct oneself during a global pandemic.

Plus aren't the majority of Brazilians dark skinned?

Old people, obese people and dark skinned people are less successful in the metabolizing of serum vitamin d from the UV light.

Lucky for the southern hemisphere, now their days are getting longer.

Our hours of UV light are getting shorter as we approach December 21 (Flu Season)

There was an email cited by DR Campbell claiming that Fauci stated he takes 6000 iu of vitamin d per day.

But my excitement for the Brazilians would be tempered more by this:

"Humoral immunity against SARS-CoV-2 may not last long in individuals who had mild infections, and the loss of antibodies may actually be quicker than reported previously for the virus, according to investigators from the David Geffen School of Medicine, University of California, Los Angeles.

“The results call for caution regarding antibody-based “immunity passports,” herd immunity, and perhaps vaccine durability, especially in light of short-lived immunity against common human coronaviruses,” the investigators commented in a letter to the editor in the New England Journal of Medicine.The first measurement of the IgG levels was obtained a mean of 37 days (range, 18-65 days) after symptom onset and the last measurement a mean of 86 days (44-119 days) after symptom onset. Analysis of the meabeautiful, beautiful black man levels indicated a half-life of the antibody level of about 36 days over the observation period.

“The protective role of antibodies against SARS-CoV-2 is unknown, but these antibodies are usually a reasonable correlate of antiviral immunity, and anti-receptor-binding domain antibody levels correspond to plasma viral neutralizing activity,” investigators said. “Our findings raise concern that humoral immunity against SARS-CoV-2 may not be long lasting in persons with mild illness, who compose the majority of persons with Covid-19. It is difficult to extrapolate beyond our observation period of approximately 90 days because it is likely that the decay will decelerate.”

"The investigators advise caution when considering herd immunity and vaccine durability and look to future studies to determine a quantitative protection threshold and rate of decline of antiviral antibodies beyond 90 days.
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I call danger Will Robinson. 

Your "herd immunity", if you want to call it that, may only have a half life of 36 days.

The Brazilian's "immunity passport", may soon be revoked.

Maybe this is what dictates the starting and stopping of the "waves" amongst a jurisdictional populace.

Distress of nations in perplexity because of the roaring of the sea and the waves.

Singing to an ocean, I can hear the ocean roar.

Singing about the good things and the sun that lights the day I used to sing on the mountains, has the ocean lost its way…

I don't know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77987078


Well, if there is no herd immunity or if the herd immunity only lasts 36 days, then a second wave MUST HAPPEN, and this reports to us to the middle October, as the OP said, it is close, time will tell what is or what was this pandemic.
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Russia on the rise

Despite the vaccine
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The accuracy of your forecasts in relation to Europe is rather concerning. Thank you for continuing with your updates. They are proving to be very valuable in helping to set expectations with those I know.
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I hate to make a post but, what gives with the Netherlands?

What are they doing over there?

Are they trying to get OP's Oktoberfest party started early?

[imgur] [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

September 21 cases: 2217.

That high bar will be higher tomorrow at 2245 when the chart updates.

If this virus doesn't mutate itself away and we do a chart like this in the states, there won't need to be another lockdown, the economy will lock itself down out of sheer fear.

Talk'in bout the infection/inflection point.

Turn that dial all the way.

Shoot me like a rocket into space.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77135970


Dutch daily COVID cases hit new high, also pass 100,000 in all

[imgur] [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

September 21 cases: 2217.

September 22 cases: 2245.

That high bar will be higher tomorrow when the chart updates at 2357 cases.

Are they not getting enough UV light up there?

Too many cloudy cold days?

"Prime Minister Mark Rutte to urge citizens to recover a sense of "urgency" about social distancing to slow the spread of the virus.

"‘We are now at the tipping point,’ RIVM spokesman Jaap van Dissel told MPs in a face to face briefing. ‘The curve is rising.’

"‘The virus is spreading more quickly that we can scale up,’ De Gouw said.

Read more at DutchNews.nl

Those Dutch guys have cool names.

Jaap van Dissel.

Marinus van Veld.


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September 13 1087

September 14 1300

September 15 1379

September 16 1542

September 17 1753

September 18 1974

They've already displayed their ability to perform 5 days of increases in a row.

Will they do it again?

September 21 cases: 2217.

September 22 cases: 2245.

September 23 cases: 2357.

September 24 cases: 2544.

September 25 cases: ???? 

The tall bar on this graph will be taller tomorrow when it updates at 2544.

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"Hans Heesterbeek told the AD coroanvirus is spreading out from the central urban belt ‘like an oil leak’, he said. ‘This is not something you can solve with regional measures. People are travelling from one region to another. There is too much mingling for regional measures to be effective.’ 

"Bart Berden, director of the Elisabeth-TweeSteden hospital in Tilburg, said that he too considered national measures are the only option, if ministers decide to intervene. ‘What is the point in having regional measures if you see that the regions are becoming more similar in terms of infection rates?,’ he said to the paper. 

"Last Friday, prime minister Mark Rutte announced that bars and cafes in the six worst affected areas would have to close their doors at midnight, and brought in new limits on numbers at organised gatherings.

Read more at DutchNews.nl.

Atta-boy Rutte, closing the bars at midnight ought to do it.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77987125


September 21 cases: 2217.

September 22 cases: 2245.

September 23 cases: 2357.

September 24 cases: 2544.

September 25 cases: 2777

The tall bar on this graph will be taller tomorrow when it updates at 2777.

[imgur] [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]
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2777 cases.

That's wild.

Did they mutate a new strain over there?

The chart looks weird to me. They're doubling the case numbers. April 10 high was 1335 cases, today they hit 2777.

These numbers are Biblical. If this was a stock chart, I'd be selling into strength. Spooky man.

Are we about to rock like that?

If we do a graph like this in our old hot spots, New York, Florida, Texas, Arizona and California, It's going to be game over. That's what worries me. Imagine New York doubling the numbers they did when they were stacking up bodies in refrigerated trailers? The stock market would be crashing day after day. 

One big hope is that the medical community have gotten better at the treatment protocols. Maybe now they know the trick of what stage to administer the appropriate drug protocol.

I can't find any new Dutch news yet.

But then I saw this note from the OP:

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If this is true, deplorable recollector is a genius.

I google for when the Netherlands open the schools.

June 8.

Are you kidding me?

And the parents let them go?

Who goes back to school on June 8?

Netherlands primary schools reopen completely June 8.

They opened the schools too early.

"MONDAY, JUNE 8, 2020 - 08:29
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"Netherlands primary schools reopen completely

"Primary schools in the Netherlands are opening completely from today. For the first time since mid-March pupils will be able to see all their classmates in class with them.

"Schools in the Netherlands all closed on March 16, one of the measures taken to curb the spread of the coronavirus. For nearly two months all kids in the Netherlands, except the children of people with essential professions and a few other exceptions, had their lessons digitally.

"On May 11, primary schools reopened partially with about half of kids being allowed in class at a time. According to the RIVM, kids under the age of 12 hardly contribute to the spread of the coronavirus. Last week, secondary schools also partly reopened their doors.

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If this is all it is, then we ARE about to rock like that.

The Netherlands may be taking one for the team.

Thank goodness the weekend is here.

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Molecular Architecture of Early Dissemination and Massive Second Wave of the SARS-CoV-2 Virus in a Major Metropolitan Area


Abstract

We sequenced the genomes of 5,085 SARS-CoV-2 strains causing two COVID-19 disease waves in metropolitan Houston, Texas, an ethnically diverse region with seven million residents. The genomes were from viruses recovered in the earliest recognized phase of the pandemic in Houston, and an ongoing massive second wave of infections. The virus was originally introduced into Houston many times independently. Virtually all strains in the second wave have a Gly614 amino acid replacement in the spike protein, a polymorphism that has been linked to increased transmission and infectivity. Patients infected with the Gly614 variant strains had significantly higher virus loads in the nasopharynx on initial diagnosis. We found little evidence of a significant relationship between virus genotypes and altered virulence, stressing the linkage between disease severity, underlying medical conditions, and host genetics. Some regions of the spike protein - the primary target of global vaccine efforts - are replete with amino acid replacements, perhaps indicating the action of selection. We exploited the genomic data to generate defined single amino acid replacements in the receptor binding domain of spike protein that, importantly, produced decreased recognition by the neutralizing monoclonal antibody CR30022. Our study is the first analysis of the molecular architecture of SARS-CoV-2 in two infection waves in a major metropolitan region. The findings will help us to understand the origin, composition, and trajectory of future infection waves, and the potential effect of the host immune response and therapeutic maneuvers on SARS-CoV-2 evolution.
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Coronavirus mutation emerges that may bypass mask-wearing, hand-washing protections


A new COVID-19 mutation appears to be even more contagious, according to a study — and experts say it could be a response by the virus to defeat masks and other social-distancing efforts.

Scientists in a paper published Wednesday identified a new strain of the virus, which accounted for 99.9 percent of cases during the second wave in the Houston, Texas, area, the Washington Post reported.

The paper, which has not been peer-reviewed, said people with the strain, known as the D614G mutation, had higher loads of virus — suggesting it is more contagious.
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Molecular Architecture of Early Dissemination and Massive Second Wave of the SARS-CoV-2 Virus in a Major Metropolitan Area


Abstract

We sequenced the genomes of 5,085 SARS-CoV-2 strains causing two COVID-19 disease waves in metropolitan Houston, Texas, an ethnically diverse region with seven million residents. The genomes were from viruses recovered in the earliest recognized phase of the pandemic in Houston, and an ongoing massive second wave of infections. The virus was originally introduced into Houston many times independently. Virtually all strains in the second wave have a Gly614 amino acid replacement in the spike protein, a polymorphism that has been linked to increased transmission and infectivity. Patients infected with the Gly614 variant strains had significantly higher virus loads in the nasopharynx on initial diagnosis. We found little evidence of a significant relationship between virus genotypes and altered virulence, stressing the linkage between disease severity, underlying medical conditions, and host genetics. Some regions of the spike protein - the primary target of global vaccine efforts - are replete with amino acid replacements, perhaps indicating the action of selection. We exploited the genomic data to generate defined single amino acid replacements in the receptor binding domain of spike protein that, importantly, produced decreased recognition by the neutralizing monoclonal antibody CR30022. Our study is the first analysis of the molecular architecture of SARS-CoV-2 in two infection waves in a major metropolitan region. The findings will help us to understand the origin, composition, and trajectory of future infection waves, and the potential effect of the host immune response and therapeutic maneuvers on SARS-CoV-2 evolution.
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Coronavirus mutation emerges that may bypass mask-wearing, hand-washing protections


A new COVID-19 mutation appears to be even more contagious, according to a study — and experts say it could be a response by the virus to defeat masks and other social-distancing efforts.

Scientists in a paper published Wednesday identified a new strain of the virus, which accounted for 99.9 percent of cases during the second wave in the Houston, Texas, area, the Washington Post reported.

The paper, which has not been peer-reviewed, said people with the strain, known as the D614G mutation, had higher loads of virus — suggesting it is more contagious.
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Great. Nothing like bad news on a Friday.
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Cancer, already 1.4 million fewer screening tests. Skipped visits and postponed interventions for Covid: "Patient mortality increases with late diagnosis"

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Talk of a total lockdown for two weeks when the UK schools go off for the October holiday.
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Argentina is also experiencing a drastic increase in cases and deaths, from about a month ago or so.
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Talk of a total lockdown for two weeks when the UK schools go off for the October holiday.
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Early June Netherlands opens schools.

[link to nltimes.nl (secure)]

[imgur] [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

Early September UK opens schools.

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[imgur] [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

Out for summer
Out 'til fall
We might not come back at all

School's out forever
School's out for summer
School's out with fever
School's out completely
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Talk of a total lockdown for two weeks when the UK schools go off for the October holiday.
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Early June Netherlands opens schools.

[link to nltimes.nl (secure)]

https://imgur.com/qp21k3K


Early September UK opens schools.

[link to www.republicworld.com (secure)]

https://imgur.com/MCJu9y2


Out for summer
Out 'til fall
We might not come back at all

School's out forever
School's out for summer
School's out with fever
School's out completely
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77135796


Took less time in the UK, but the baseline of cases in the UK was much higher, hence it spread faster through the schools. Nice post, much thanks.
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Talk of a total lockdown for two weeks when the UK schools go off for the October holiday.
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Early June Netherlands opens schools.

[link to nltimes.nl (secure)]

[imgur] [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

Early September UK opens schools.

[link to www.republicworld.com (secure)]

[imgur] [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

Out for summer
Out 'til fall
We might not come back at all

School's out forever
School's out for summer
School's out with fever
School's out completely
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77135796


Took less time in the UK, but the baseline of cases in the UK was much higher, hence it spread faster through the schools. Nice post, much thanks.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


Thank you as well Chile.

I was looking at the chart for Chile.

It looked different from the rest.

So I looked for when they opened the schools.

The OP on this thread has me thinking about school openings.

I can't find too much for Chile.

This page won't load for me right now:

[link to santiagotimes.cl (secure)]

COVID-19: Over 68% of parents won't allow their children ...santiagotimes.cl › COVID-19Jun 27,

2020 - Since the closure of schools in March students have been taking ... and Back to School Modality in Chilean Education” public consultation.

Chile did a hard lockdown:

[link to www.abc.net.au (secure)]

So with the school issue in Chile seemingly out of the equation, I'm a big fan of vitamin d. And how the sun shines on a population and they generate their own serum levels.

There's so many studies of how the victims of Covid had low levels of vitamin d in their blood all the way back to Wuhan.

Now look at this strange Chile chart, see how it all bunches up in May, June and July:

[imgur] [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

Compare that with the cloudy months in this chart, see how it bunches up in the center like the Covid chart:

[imgur] [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

And the short hours of daylight May, June and July:

[imgur] [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

Sun index for Chile by month:

[imgur] [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

[link to suncurves.com (secure)]

Chile can do the hardest lockdown on earth, but they can't control the sun times.

I recommend to buy vitamin d.
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Talk of a total lockdown for two weeks when the UK schools go off for the October holiday.
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Early June Netherlands opens schools.

[link to nltimes.nl (secure)]

https://imgur.com/qp21k3K


Early September UK opens schools.

[link to www.republicworld.com (secure)]

https://imgur.com/MCJu9y2


Out for summer
Out 'til fall
We might not come back at all

School's out forever
School's out for summer
School's out with fever
School's out completely
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77135796


Took less time in the UK, but the baseline of cases in the UK was much higher, hence it spread faster through the schools. Nice post, much thanks.
 Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe


Thank you as well Chile.

I was looking at the chart for Chile.

It looked different from the rest.

So I looked for when they opened the schools.

The OP on this thread has me thinking about school openings.

I can't find too much for Chile.

This page won't load for me right now:

[link to santiagotimes.cl (secure)]

COVID-19: Over 68% of parents won't allow their children ...santiagotimes.cl › COVID-19Jun 27,

2020 - Since the closure of schools in March students have been taking ... and Back to School Modality in Chilean Education” public consultation.

Chile did a hard lockdown:

[link to www.abc.net.au (secure)]

So with the school issue in Chile seemingly out of the equation, I'm a big fan of vitamin d. And how the sun shines on a population and they generate their own serum levels.

There's so many studies of how the victims of Covid had low levels of vitamin d in their blood all the way back to Wuhan.

Now look at this strange Chile chart, see how it all bunches up in May, June and July:

https://imgur.com/Emf110K


Compare that with the cloudy months in this chart, see how it bunches up in the center like the Covid chart:

https://imgur.com/lYjgDrA


And the short hours of daylight May, June and July:

https://imgur.com/nE9p5Od


Sun index for Chile by month:

https://imgur.com/cKQOsFc


[link to suncurves.com (secure)]

Chile can do the hardest lockdown on earth, but they can't control the sun times.

I recommend to buy vitamin d.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77791123


Well, the funny thing is that the lowering of cases was only achieved after a hard lock down, and now that it's being gradually lifted, cases are on the rise again. My city has been on lock down twice, and the second time started 2 months ago, and my city is the only one in Chile that has a subtropical weather, and cases, lock down an all, are rising again after the national holyday.

Here the talk about sending kids to school, is met with harsh criticism from all sides, online clases will remain for schools and universities for the next three semesters.
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I’d be interested to see charts like these with weather/temperature patterns instead of school reopening. I can’t stop wondering about the change in weather being a factor.
End of August in the uk, and you’d assume the Netherlands too, temps started to change and then early September cases started to rise again.

Im not dismissing the school reopening factor, it’s obv been a huge influence, just find the temperature change theory interesting. There was a fact shared earlier in the year, likely in the big thread, how for every degree the temperature rose cases dropped by ?15%?. Can’t remember the actual number.
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I’d be interested to see charts like these with weather/temperature patterns instead of school reopening. I can’t stop wondering about the change in weather being a factor.
End of August in the uk, and you’d assume the Netherlands too, temps started to change and then early September cases started to rise again.

Im not dismissing the school reopening factor, it’s obv been a huge influence, just find the temperature change theory interesting. There was a fact shared earlier in the year, likely in the big thread, how for every degree the temperature rose cases dropped by ?15%?. Can’t remember the actual number.
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So after I wrote this the page decided to finally load the images and now what I wrote doesn’t make sense! Haha oh dear smh! The sun and cloud info is really interesting, thanks for sharing!

Really been struggling to get pages to load since the introduction of imigur/twitter embedding! Some pages show half width, some with lots of black spaces. Guess it’s my crappy old iPad!
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I’d be interested to see charts like these with weather/temperature patterns instead of school reopening. I can’t stop wondering about the change in weather being a factor.
End of August in the uk, and you’d assume the Netherlands too, temps started to change and then early September cases started to rise again.

Im not dismissing the school reopening factor, it’s obv been a huge influence, just find the temperature change theory interesting. There was a fact shared earlier in the year, likely in the big thread, how for every degree the temperature rose cases dropped by ?15%?. Can’t remember the actual number.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79414428


So after I wrote this the page decided to finally load the images and now what I wrote doesn’t make sense! Haha oh dear smh! The sun and cloud info is really interesting, thanks for sharing!

Really been struggling to get pages to load since the introduction of imigur/twitter embedding! Some pages show half width, some with lots of black spaces. Guess it’s my crappy old iPad!
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No worries UK.

It usually takes me a couple tries to just do a post on this forum. I don't always seem to be smart enough to defeat the captcha test. The page will stall, then cloudfare will send a pop up claiming the page is taking too long and would I like to hit the refresh button. 

Then I lose the post I was trying to send so I'll just reboot the PC and try again at the end of the day. I have a Dell server converted to dual boot windows 10 and Linux mint. I've also tried my Acer laptop with windows 10.

My best chance however, is with this PC which is an old XP machine with the Avast secure browser. Maybe this forum software is old, windows 95 style, the only forum where you still can't indent a paragraph in the year 2020.

I keep on expecting to hear midi music start playing and a dancing banana move across the screen.

[INDENT] Just joking.[INDENT/]

The other day Italy 776 was saying something about "Russia on the rise Despite the vaccine"

I noticed it too.

I didn't have the patience for another round of the captcha challenge.

I watch Russia everyday.

Their death chart is looking spooky too.

I better not do another sun chart post, I'll save that for another day.

But I'm looking at an article about Russian kids going back to school. They look like good kids. The Russian people look like good people, everyone smiling and happy.

"The Balashikha school has installed sophisticated temperature screening devices near the front door, much like what many airports now use to check passengers. As the children walk inside, cameras take their pictures and a thermometer scans their temperature. The results are displayed on a monitor for security staff.
[link to www.cbc.ca (secure)]

But I was surprised none of the kids or teachers wore masks.

In the video a teacher explained that they are testing all the teachers and the kids do whatever they're told. The DO look like good little kids.

I also consider the safety mitigations playing a role in the school re openings. It certainly isn't business as usual this year. These mitigations, like temperature screening, hand washing and mask wearing, may postpone the expected rise in cases. Could this be why the Netherlands seem to have enjoyed a delayed reaction to the opening up of schools in June?

I'd be interested to see how the Russians do without the masks, compared with a jurisdiction who enforces mask wearing in the schools.

But there's no denying, the Russians are moving on up. That high bar of 7523 will be higher tomorow when the graph updates at 7867:

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The Russian death chart is giving me the chills. The high bar on this graph on September 26 is 169:

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Notice how they were in a downward trend channel until around the third week of August. Since that inflection point they've been carving out an upward trend channel. NOT GOOD.

But I seriously don't think it's the cold temperatures. The drop in temperatures is coincident with the reduced hours of UV light.

I saw a video of someone sneezing in sub zero temperatures. The aerosolized respiratory droplets came out about a foot, then froze and fell to the ground.

They didn't linger, floating in the air, like they do in above freezing, or room temperature.

Stay tuned, we're about to see.
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The trend of the Netherlands keeps upward.

Russia is interesting because they have kept having massive numbers of cases for months and an average of 100+ deaths per day, for months. They seem to be completely oblivious, in my country when the numbers were above 100 the outcry against the authorities toppled one health minister.
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DR, we are anxiously awaiting your update!

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DR, we are anxiously awaiting your update!

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I agree!

DR -- are we still on the same projected path you've talked about? It seems pretty quiet here in the USA...but from what I'm reading above, Europe is ticking upward.

What are your thoughts? We are almost in October!

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My planned update is September 30th or October 1st.


I am already working on it, because it is a big one. Don't wanna miss any aspects, and the reason I wait one more week is because I expect to see sustained or rising infection rates across Europe and the U.S., as well as what new restrictions are in place by Oct. 1st., or what is planned for after Oct. 1st.


There will be some developments this week (especially on the anti-pandemic measures side), and I don't want to talk before accounting for them.
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The trend of the Netherlands keeps upward.

Russia is interesting because they have kept having massive numbers of cases for months and an average of 100+ deaths per day, for months. They seem to be completely oblivious, in my country when the numbers were above 100 the outcry against the authorities toppled one health minister.
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it is a real shitshow, I heard that the head of the Dutch "CDC" is against masks, this does not work well in one of the most populated EU countries. Steep sustained rise in cases. Similar in Denmark, less people, but also anti-mask.

In Germany masks have been mandatory since April when shopping and using public transport. We have an increase too, but not as strong as in many other countries. Mandatory masks might be a minimum requirememt. Most spreading events in the last weeks came from big private parties (Turkish weddings with hundreds of participants, also some smaller 30-50 people parties). Berlin is a large hotspot with 40-50/100,000 cases. Today there are talks scheduled between the individual state heads and chancellor Angela Merkel. She is not pleased with recent developments. It is expected that there will be a ban on large gatherings (50+ or even 25+ people). The question is whether this will apply to all states at once or only to the ones where infection levels are too high.
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Netherlands +3011, UK +7142
right on the trajectory
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The state of emergency in the Czech Republic will come into force again on Monday, the government has introduced new measures

An emergency situation will come into force in the Czech Republic again on Monday, October 5, to prevent the spread of a coronavirus pandemic. The proposal of the Minister of Health Roman Prymula (for YES) was approved by the government.

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The state of emergency in the Czech Republic will come into force again on Monday, the government has introduced new measures

An emergency situation will come into force in the Czech Republic again on Monday, October 5, to prevent the spread of a coronavirus pandemic. The proposal of the Minister of Health Roman Prymula (for YES) was approved by the government.

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This was Guythu

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It’s coming - today or tomorrow - watch this space ....,

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