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WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month

 
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Another GLPer that works in the healthcare field, cracked under the pressure of the pandemic.

I absolutely understand his position, humanely, but if people in the field of medical care are saying what Tarnished Halo and others before him are saying, we're fucked.


This is not about TH, or PK, or any other person in the medical field. It is not their fault that the pressure is stupidly high for them.

This is about the governments doing such a piss poor job, that even those who should save lives are no longer thinking straight, being under such stress.


Tarnished Halo post on main thread, on page 11195 :

After skimming through mindless arguments here's my 2 cents:

People are losing sight of the entire reason for lockdowns in the first place....to PREVENT OVERWHELMING OF THE HOSPITALS. Lockdowns are NOT to defeat the virus.

Now for my humble opinion. Lockdowns do not work. Period. As soon as they are lifted people act like they've been in prison for years and act like idiots. Thus the reason for spikes again after the lockdown is lifted. Even though I'm in the medical profession and will get my ass kicked, I'm ready to let it burn. Those who will take precautions will and those who won't, won't. I'll see some of the latter in the hospital, but it many are doing well with the treatments we have now.


Every single one of my friends and coworkers from 23-51 have survived and appear to be doing well. The first one was positive in late June and is fine. I have one friend who has it now and is doing good. The people I have personally cared for that died all had pre-existing conditions. every.single.one.

As far as "long haulers" I'll stick to my opinion that the virus triggers an autoimmune disease in people who are already predispositioned to have one. The symptoms are the same as others that are already known. I just wish I knew if they are being treated with the same known treatments for them.

I know this isn't a popular opinion, but it is what it is. Call it normalcy bias, burn out, whatever, but I'm so sick of this shit I could literally walk outside and scream until my throat bleeds. I'm tired of the arguing over masks, flu vs covid, lockdown, covid, politics, etc. I long for the days of the dumb ass chicken sandwich debate.

I'm prepped to the hilt and am prepared for what may come so don't think I'm throwing caution to the wind. As most of you know all of us are on the front lines and will continue to take precautions, but we will live in a healthy fear of this virus and continue to do things we enjoy using precautions.

Stay safe out there!
 Quoting: Tarnished Halo



I have bolded the phrases that for me, are extremely worrying.

I think a lot of people think the same way as TH, and I do not blame them. Can't ask anyone to think the way others think. Their opinion is their opinion, even if it's illogical.

Lock-downs are not only to prevent the overwhelming of hospitals. Lock-downs are mainly to slow down the pandemic, and it is the most substantial measure in this aspect.

All other measures, COMBINED, do not slow down the pandemic as much as lock-downs do.


TH is saying that lock-downs do not defeat the virus. In it self, a lock-down cannot defeat the virus. What defeats the virus is a vaccine, or herd immunity, or prophylactic treatments.

We are 9 months (after this virus existence was made public) into this pandemic. We got no vaccine. We got no prophylactic treatment. Heck, we don't even have a treatment for the symptoms. As for herd immunity, forget about it. It is a novel virus, we will have a vaccine before herd immunity.


So, what can we do to slow down the pandemic at maximum, so we can gain precious time for a vaccine, or a prophylactic or a treatment?

Well, best way to gain this precious time is lock-downs. So while the lock-downs do not defeat the virus, the TIME that lock-downs are giving us will HELP us defeat the virus.


Now, this is TH is saying next :

Now for my humble opinion. Lockdowns do not work. Period. As soon as they are lifted people act like they've been in prison for years and act like idiots.


I am sorry TH, but why do you say that lock-downs do not work...if PEOPLE act like idiots?

The problem is NOT the lock-downs...it is THE PEOPLE.


Moving on to next :

Even though I'm in the medical profession and will get my ass kicked, I'm ready to let it burn. Those who will take precautions will and those who won't, won't. I'll see some of the latter in the hospital, but it many are doing well with the treatments we have now.


This is the most worrying part.

Let is burn? And those who take precautions will, and those who won't won't?

This is, no offense intended, absolutely stupid, especially from a person working in the medical field.

If someone is taking ALL precautions in the world against the virus, HOW is this going to help that person if it is involved in a car accident but the ICUs are fucking full?

Or someone that have a hearth attack? Or ANYONE else that needs ICU, but he can't get in, because it is full of Covid-19 patients?


How exactly would "let it burn" help those who protect themselves from the virus, but still need medical care because of SOMETHING ELSE, but the virus?



This type of thinking is dangerous. Most people are unable to see the big picture, and inside the big picture, the small details.


Again, I understand TH and others. People are not robots, and we ALL crack if we are under enough pressure.


I just wanted only to point out that we are in a pandemic that didn't even started to really pressure us, and because of the stupid ass governments, we are now, just after NINE months of basically NOTHING in terms of this pandemic, on the brink of giving up, with many who already gave up.


I expected everything from the human race in 2020, from anti-maskers, to 5G idiots, to whatever stupid thing...but GIVING UP after nine months of nothing, was not on the list.


If we are here NOW...what the fuck will we do next month? Or the month after?


Man, this is worse then I could even imagine.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


I am afraid as a society we are screwed. Take my place of employment as an example, company has policies in place, social distance, wear masks, wash hands ect. Nobody, I mean nobody is following these policies and the company is doing nothing to enforce them. People just do what they want. Their opinion is masks don't work, we are all going to catch it, so what difference does it make. I believe that is is the opinion of society as a whole and this thinking is going to doom us. I have been following your thread since the beginning and I just want to say thank you for your work. I have always been a prepper, but following this thread has kicked it into overdrive. This winter is going to be very very bad. May God have mercy on us.
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Another GLPer that works in the healthcare field, cracked under the pressure of the pandemic.

I absolutely understand his position, humanely, but if people in the field of medical care are saying what Tarnished Halo and others before him are saying, we're fucked.


This is not about TH, or PK, or any other person in the medical field. It is not their fault that the pressure is stupidly high for them.

This is about the governments doing such a piss poor job, that even those who should save lives are no longer thinking straight, being under such stress.


Tarnished Halo post on main thread, on page 11195 :

After skimming through mindless arguments here's my 2 cents:

People are losing sight of the entire reason for lockdowns in the first place....to PREVENT OVERWHELMING OF THE HOSPITALS. Lockdowns are NOT to defeat the virus.

Now for my humble opinion. Lockdowns do not work. Period. As soon as they are lifted people act like they've been in prison for years and act like idiots. Thus the reason for spikes again after the lockdown is lifted. Even though I'm in the medical profession and will get my ass kicked, I'm ready to let it burn. Those who will take precautions will and those who won't, won't. I'll see some of the latter in the hospital, but it many are doing well with the treatments we have now.


Every single one of my friends and coworkers from 23-51 have survived and appear to be doing well. The first one was positive in late June and is fine. I have one friend who has it now and is doing good. The people I have personally cared for that died all had pre-existing conditions. every.single.one.

As far as "long haulers" I'll stick to my opinion that the virus triggers an autoimmune disease in people who are already predispositioned to have one. The symptoms are the same as others that are already known. I just wish I knew if they are being treated with the same known treatments for them.

I know this isn't a popular opinion, but it is what it is. Call it normalcy bias, burn out, whatever, but I'm so sick of this shit I could literally walk outside and scream until my throat bleeds. I'm tired of the arguing over masks, flu vs covid, lockdown, covid, politics, etc. I long for the days of the dumb ass chicken sandwich debate.

I'm prepped to the hilt and am prepared for what may come so don't think I'm throwing caution to the wind. As most of you know all of us are on the front lines and will continue to take precautions, but we will live in a healthy fear of this virus and continue to do things we enjoy using precautions.

Stay safe out there!
 Quoting: Tarnished Halo



I have bolded the phrases that for me, are extremely worrying.

I think a lot of people think the same way as TH, and I do not blame them. Can't ask anyone to think the way others think. Their opinion is their opinion, even if it's illogical.

Lock-downs are not only to prevent the overwhelming of hospitals. Lock-downs are mainly to slow down the pandemic, and it is the most substantial measure in this aspect.

All other measures, COMBINED, do not slow down the pandemic as much as lock-downs do.


TH is saying that lock-downs do not defeat the virus. In it self, a lock-down cannot defeat the virus. What defeats the virus is a vaccine, or herd immunity, or prophylactic treatments.

We are 9 months (after this virus existence was made public) into this pandemic. We got no vaccine. We got no prophylactic treatment. Heck, we don't even have a treatment for the symptoms. As for herd immunity, forget about it. It is a novel virus, we will have a vaccine before herd immunity.


So, what can we do to slow down the pandemic at maximum, so we can gain precious time for a vaccine, or a prophylactic or a treatment?

Well, best way to gain this precious time is lock-downs. So while the lock-downs do not defeat the virus, the TIME that lock-downs are giving us will HELP us defeat the virus.


Now, this is TH is saying next :

Now for my humble opinion. Lockdowns do not work. Period. As soon as they are lifted people act like they've been in prison for years and act like idiots.


I am sorry TH, but why do you say that lock-downs do not work...if PEOPLE act like idiots?

The problem is NOT the lock-downs...it is THE PEOPLE.


Moving on to next :

Even though I'm in the medical profession and will get my ass kicked, I'm ready to let it burn. Those who will take precautions will and those who won't, won't. I'll see some of the latter in the hospital, but it many are doing well with the treatments we have now.


This is the most worrying part.

Let is burn? And those who take precautions will, and those who won't won't?

This is, no offense intended, absolutely stupid, especially from a person working in the medical field.

If someone is taking ALL precautions in the world against the virus, HOW is this going to help that person if it is involved in a car accident but the ICUs are fucking full?

Or someone that have a hearth attack? Or ANYONE else that needs ICU, but he can't get in, because it is full of Covid-19 patients?


How exactly would "let it burn" help those who protect themselves from the virus, but still need medical care because of SOMETHING ELSE, but the virus?



This type of thinking is dangerous. Most people are unable to see the big picture, and inside the big picture, the small details.


Again, I understand TH and others. People are not robots, and we ALL crack if we are under enough pressure.


I just wanted only to point out that we are in a pandemic that didn't even started to really pressure us, and because of the stupid ass governments, we are now, just after NINE months of basically NOTHING in terms of this pandemic, on the brink of giving up, with many who already gave up.


I expected everything from the human race in 2020, from anti-maskers, to 5G idiots, to whatever stupid thing...but GIVING UP after nine months of nothing, was not on the list.


If we are here NOW...what the fuck will we do next month? Or the month after?


Man, this is worse then I could even imagine.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


Everyone has their point of “team virus”.
The important part is not fully losing hope.
Eventually having reflection and realization.
Only then can we be at peace.

But ultimately it will take each of us contributing what we can to help others.
Working together.

We (generally speaking) probably need a bit more of an ass kicking by the virus before we are able to strengthen our resolve and come together.

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Yah. I am so there.

If folks won’t use PPE properly and that’s not totally their fault or stay back ..... I won’t participate.

I will offer kindness and ideas for mental and physical coping skills via some of these threads but other than that.....

I think this is sooooo big that most never get to that work together moment because by then.... they are the victims too.

#teamvirus
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11k cases on Sunday, that's not good.
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Welcome to the new era-DOOM ERA.

Thread: PHASES OF A PANDEMIC OUTBREAK (Page 6)

now u know why the virus was being made and what the governments' of the world goal is. it is not to save U.
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we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Welcome to the new era-DOOM ERA.

Thread: PHASES OF A PANDEMIC OUTBREAK (Page 6)

now u know why the virus was being made and what the governments' of the world goal is. it is not to save U.
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So how bad do you think it will get on a population reduction level J!
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

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Showing spain dropping in hospital cases hmmmm
I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling.

We all love green, thanks in advance :)

So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking.

We all love green. Thanks in advance :)
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Here we go again, today two doctors died from COVID
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Looks like ireland back in level 5 lockdown tomorrow for 3 to 4 weeks and reassess then.5km radius, eviction ban, covid social welfare benefits and re-jigging of 'social bubbles to support elderly/vulnerable/isolated people, etc.
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If we are here NOW...what the fuck will we do next month? Or the month after?


Man, this is worse then I could even imagine.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector



Keep spirts high. I know idea how but you got to keep your chin up.

Its bad. Its real bad..
But at least mentally you will be prepared.

God knows what will happen to others when they see how bad it is.

Even freinds who i had long chats with at the start of this who knew hoe bad it was, have turned to "let it burn"
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Let it burn is pretty much the theme for this quarter. I know my son feels this way. The young ones represent this idea.
Empathy is gone.

I have to keep reminding him that this is far from over. Just the beginning. My biggest concern is your theory DR. If this virus figures out how to work on the healthy and the young, we are finished.
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More and more people are thinking that the 'let it run' route is the way forward. It seems that the option of controls and lockdowns is just too much for most people to cope with.

Years of lockdowns just to see them followed by spikes until we get to 'herd immunity' or a 'good mutation' or a 'vaccine' feels like a long drawn out process.

Is this not just another human coronavirus like 229E or HKU1 that will be here for all time? It is not going anywhere is it? I wonder what affect 229E had when it first arrived on this planet?

Most of us are following the guidance and doing our best. But in the long run its up to the governments to choose the path they want and they know the models and the predictions as well as we do.

Prepare for the worse and hope for the best and....

UK Keep Calm Sma

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Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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The Italian PM conte says today: Italy can't afford a new lockdown, it would severely compromise the economy.
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More and more people are thinking that the 'let it run' route is the way forward. It seems that the option of controls and lockdowns is just too much for most people to cope with.

Years of lockdowns just to see them followed by spikes until we get to 'herd immunity' or a 'good mutation' or a 'vaccine' feels like a long drawn out process.

Is this not just another human coronavirus like 229E or HKU1 that will be here for all time? It is not going anywhere is it? I wonder what affect 229E had when it first arrived on this planet?

Most of us are following the guidance and doing our best. But in the long run its up to the governments to choose the path they want and they know the models and the predictions as well as we do.

Prepare for the worse and hope for the best and....

UK Keep Calm Sma
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Yes so many see it as let it run..
But thats Becuase they never seen death piled on the street.
The low deaths in march they see as northing.
Only over 65 die blah blah blah.

The people are the problem.
Now what ever it is, maybe asia countrys are fiddling the figures, hiding it from the world.

But they look like they doing a hell of a lot better then the west.
I got contacts all over asia amd they confirm life is pretty normal.

Yes small selection of people to judge a whole area but none the less more life than the uk/eu has.
I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling.

We all love green, thanks in advance :)

So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking.

We all love green. Thanks in advance :)
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Wales to enter 17-day 'circuit break' lockdown, leaked letter reveals

The lockdown will take Wales "back to the situation in March", when businesses shut and people were told they must stay at home.


[link to news.sky.com (secure)]
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17 days ! How will that achieve anything. It will take 2-3 weeks to even start to see a levelling off and then it will take off again. Pointless politic play!

:UK Keep Calm Sma:
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Don't be so negative.

It's not pointless at all. It's a start, and as they will observe there are results, they will be encouraged to take the next step for real, which is a longer term lockdown.

I even think interrupting long term lockdowns for a couple or a few days although it will result in a temporary slowing down of a the decrease, it will be like taking a deep breath and allow people to catch up with things, prep, etc.
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Wales to enter 17-day 'circuit break' lockdown, leaked letter reveals

The lockdown will take Wales "back to the situation in March", when businesses shut and people were told they must stay at home.


[link to news.sky.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77757237


17 days ! How will that achieve anything. It will take 2-3 weeks to even start to see a levelling off and then it will take off again. Pointless politic play!

:UK Keep Calm Sma:
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Don't be so negative.

It's not pointless at all. It's a start, and as they will observe there are results, they will be encouraged to take the next step for real, which is a longer term lockdown.

I even think interrupting long term lockdowns for a couple or a few days although it will result in a temporary slowing down of a the decrease, it will be like taking a deep breath and allow people to catch up with things, prep, etc.
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He isn’t being negative.

Reality isn’t for everyone.
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The Italian PM conte says today: Italy can't afford a new lockdown, it would severely compromise the economy.
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He doesn't realize this is a problem all countries have to face. Italy is not alone in this and would not be particularly disadvantaged compared to other countries.
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Wales to enter 17-day 'circuit break' lockdown, leaked letter reveals

The lockdown will take Wales "back to the situation in March", when businesses shut and people were told they must stay at home.


[link to news.sky.com (secure)]
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17 days ! How will that achieve anything. It will take 2-3 weeks to even start to see a levelling off and then it will take off again. Pointless politic play!

:UK Keep Calm Sma:
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Don't be so negative.

It's not pointless at all. It's a start, and as they will observe there are results, they will be encouraged to take the next step for real, which is a longer term lockdown.

I even think interrupting long term lockdowns for a couple or a few days although it will result in a temporary slowing down of a the decrease, it will be like taking a deep breath and allow people to catch up with things, prep, etc.
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He isn’t being negative.

Reality isn’t for everyone.
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And your point is?
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Wales to enter 17-day 'circuit break' lockdown, leaked letter reveals

The lockdown will take Wales "back to the situation in March", when businesses shut and people were told they must stay at home.


[link to news.sky.com (secure)]
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17 days ! How will that achieve anything. It will take 2-3 weeks to even start to see a levelling off and then it will take off again. Pointless politic play!

:UK Keep Calm Sma:
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Do you think they are just saying 17 days so people will go along with it and then extend when they see they have to?
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That’s what I’m thinking. Same occurred before in spring. If they were to say, “you’re locked down for 4 months” that won’t go well. It’s just baby steps, which are then met with less opposition.
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If we can't escape long terms lockdowns... then that's the way to go. It's the diplomatic way.
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The lockdown will take Wales "back to the situation in March", when businesses shut and people were told they must stay at home.


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17 days ! How will that achieve anything. It will take 2-3 weeks to even start to see a levelling off and then it will take off again. Pointless politic play!

:UK Keep Calm Sma:
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Do you think they are just saying 17 days so people will go along with it and then extend when they see they have to?
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That’s what the states did. 2 weeks turned into 2 more weeks. I live in po dunk USA I think it will take people getting sick in every third house before these country folk think, oh hell
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It's "Podunk". I hate it when I see people continuously maiming and disfiguring your language in this forum.
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17 days ! How will that achieve anything. It will take 2-3 weeks to even start to see a levelling off and then it will take off again. Pointless politic play!

:UK Keep Calm Sma:
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Do you think they are just saying 17 days so people will go along with it and then extend when they see they have to?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78614390


That’s what the states did. 2 weeks turned into 2 more weeks. I live in po dunk USA I think it will take people getting sick in every third house before these country folk think, oh hell
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It's "Podunk". I hate it when I see people continuously maiming and disfiguring your language in this forum.
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You modunk lost your mind.

DR.....this might be ours from over yonder. Sorry. Just clean house. Words like this are not needed.
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Another GLPer that works in the healthcare field, cracked under the pressure of the pandemic.

I absolutely understand his position, humanely, but if people in the field of medical care are saying what Tarnished Halo and others before him are saying, we're fucked.


This is not about TH, or PK, or any other person in the medical field. It is not their fault that the pressure is stupidly high for them.

This is about the governments doing such a piss poor job, that even those who should save lives are no longer thinking straight, being under such stress.


Tarnished Halo post on main thread, on page 11195 :

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 Quoting: deplorable recollector

What thread is that? Can you please link to it?
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Do you think they are just saying 17 days so people will go along with it and then extend when they see they have to?
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That’s what the states did. 2 weeks turned into 2 more weeks. I live in po dunk USA I think it will take people getting sick in every third house before these country folk think, oh hell
 Quoting: miabelieves

It's "Podunk". I hate it when I see people continuously maiming and disfiguring your language in this forum.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79415005


You modunk lost your mind.

DR.....this might be ours from over yonder. Sorry. Just clean house. Words like this are not needed.
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No, I did not lose my mind. You are just taking your ability for wit too much for granted.
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Another GLPer that works in the healthcare field, cracked under the pressure of the pandemic.

I absolutely understand his position, humanely, but if people in the field of medical care are saying what Tarnished Halo and others before him are saying, we're fucked.


This is not about TH, or PK, or any other person in the medical field. It is not their fault that the pressure is stupidly high for them.

This is about the governments doing such a piss poor job, that even those who should save lives are no longer thinking straight, being under such stress.


Tarnished Halo post on main thread, on page 11195 :

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 Quoting: deplorable recollector

What thread is that? Can you please link to it?
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You can use the search function.

Good luck.
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I am preparing an update for Thursday, with a list of countries in Europe that based on my calculations, lost the control of the epidemic already, or are very close to lose it.


I am also trying to determine if the lock-downs are really off the table, or it's just that Europe is waiting for the U.S. elections results, before deciding in favor or against lock-downs.

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The Welsh lockdown is confirmed.

Welsh FM Mark Drakeford has announced Wales will go into a national lockdown from Friday until 9th November. All will be told to stay at home while pubs, restaurants and non-essential shops will shut.
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I am preparing an update for Thursday, with a list of countries in Europe that based on my calculations, lost the control of the epidemic already, or are very close to lose it.


I am also trying to determine if the lock-downs are really off the table, or it's just that Europe is waiting for the U.S. elections results, before deciding in favor or against lock-downs.
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Ump bump
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siren2

The Welsh lockdown is confirmed.

Welsh FM Mark Drakeford has announced Wales will go into a national lockdown from Friday until 9th November. All will be told to stay at home while pubs, restaurants and non-essential shops will shut.

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siren2

"Our critical care units are already full", warns the First Minister.

Schooling affected too. Ages 13/14 and above are included and must stay at home until the lockdown is over.
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I am preparing an update for Thursday, with a list of countries in Europe that based on my calculations, lost the control of the epidemic already, or are very close to lose it.


I am also trying to determine if the lock-downs are really off the table, or it's just that Europe is waiting for the U.S. elections results, before deciding in favor or against lock-downs.
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Look forward to it.

Wonder if wales locking down will it push others todo the same
I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch.

But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling.

We all love green, thanks in advance :)

So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking.

We all love green. Thanks in advance :)
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Lil still not a single US Hospital “overwhelmed”. Opee, can you splain yerself? 99% recovery rate....

You sychphants that believe this guy need to wake the fuck up- he is part of the payop and is likely getting paid by the WHO or One of Fauci’s companies....
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Little dickhead.


There were hundreds of hospitals with full ICUs in the U.S. during the summer peak.

And there will be thousands in the winter peak.


Go back to your rat cave.

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Re: WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month
I am preparing an update for Thursday, with a list of countries in Europe that based on my calculations, lost the control of the epidemic already, or are very close to lose it.


I am also trying to determine if the lock-downs are really off the table, or it's just that Europe is waiting for the U.S. elections results, before deciding in favor or against lock-downs.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


Look forward to it.

Wonder if wales locking down will it push others todo the same
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I don't see why Wales lock-down is relevant. We're talking a very small population size.


Doesn't matter what such small entities do or don't.





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