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WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month

 
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Monkeypox: Pandemic scenario cannot be ruled out…, expert explains how the virus can become dangerous

Despite the rise in the number of cases, it is still too early to talk about a monkeypox epidemic, an expert pointed out. “Unless the virus has evolved significantly, both in its transmissibility and in its modes of transmission, this virus is known to be not very transmissible." But, the pandemic scenario cannot be ruled out completely, he further warned.

“We're seeing the emergence of an unusual phenomenon, but it's still difficult to know whether it will explode into an epidemic, or whether its spread will be more contained. In recent days, the number of cases has doubled every three or four days, which could signal the exponential growth of an epidemic wave."

It should always be remembered that an epidemic progression of contamination follows an exponential law which can be very rapid. For the moment, what we know about the monkeypox virus does not lead us to fear the massive contamination of the general population. Unless the virus has evolved significantly, both in its transmissibility and in its modes of transmission, this virus is known to be not very transmissible.
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

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My only opinion on monkey pox or other diseases that suddenly surfaced is that they started to be picked up by the MSM right after Popasna fell to the Russians, triggering the collapse of Ukrainian Army, which will trigger the collapse of the Ukrainian nation and state.


So, all these diseases are stupid attempts at DIVERTING the masses from the utter defeat of the West in Ukraine, and BLINDING the said masses of what is about to come our way : famine, war and economic collapse before year's end.



I have said that the pandemic card (with the kill shot "vaccine attached) had FAILED, and the last card to be played is world war.



Which is about to happen, because Ukraine have already started to fall, and the globalists CANNOT accept such a defeat, because NEXT to fall is the entire front of Eastern Europe, from Baltic States to Bulgaria, and this is GAME OVER for a one world government.


Russia and China are becoming very inter-linked, and close to become the other pol of the multi-polar world currently in the forming, and a process that cannot be stopped, no matter what.
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In Stunning Shift, WaPo Admits Catastrophic-Conditions, Collapsing-Morale Of Ukraine Front-Line Forces

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My only opinion on monkey pox or other diseases that suddenly surfaced is that they started to be picked up by the MSM right after Popasna fell to the Russians, triggering the collapse of Ukrainian Army, which will trigger the collapse of the Ukrainian nation and state.


So, all these diseases are stupid attempts at DIVERTING the masses from the utter defeat of the West in Ukraine, and BLINDING the said masses of what is about to come our way : famine, war and economic collapse before year's end.



I have said that the pandemic card (with the kill shot "vaccine attached) had FAILED, and the last card to be played is world war.



Which is about to happen, because Ukraine have already started to fall, and the globalists CANNOT accept such a defeat, because NEXT to fall is the entire front of Eastern Europe, from Baltic States to Bulgaria, and this is GAME OVER for a one world government.


Russia and China are becoming very inter-linked, and close to become the other pol of the multi-polar world currently in the forming, and a process that cannot be stopped, no matter what.
 Quoting: Recollector

Pushing Christian Russia into the arms of China is a really bad move from the west.
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Monkeypox: Pandemic scenario cannot be ruled out…, expert explains how the virus can become dangerous

Despite the rise in the number of cases, it is still too early to talk about a monkeypox epidemic, an expert pointed out. “Unless the virus has evolved significantly, both in its transmissibility and in its modes of transmission, this virus is known to be not very transmissible." But, the pandemic scenario cannot be ruled out completely, he further warned.

“We're seeing the emergence of an unusual phenomenon, but it's still difficult to know whether it will explode into an epidemic, or whether its spread will be more contained. In recent days, the number of cases has doubled every three or four days, which could signal the exponential growth of an epidemic wave."

It should always be remembered that an epidemic progression of contamination follows an exponential law which can be very rapid. For the moment, what we know about the monkeypox virus does not lead us to fear the massive contamination of the general population. Unless the virus has evolved significantly, both in its transmissibility and in its modes of transmission, this virus is known to be not very transmissible.
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At this moment, it seems to be transmitted still mostly by homosexual males.
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Part V. The so-called war in Ukraine.






As I said before this war started, Russia is preparing its troops for WW3, a WW3 that will be similar to WW2, because Russia cannot win a conventional war against NATO, as long as NATO air superiority matters.


To conclude this part, as long as NATO doesn't directly intervene against Russia, Ukraine already lost, and it is doomed to not even exist anymore, if they keep dragging this conflict with the help of U.S. weapons and money.


The longer will TAKE, the more Russia will TAKE of Ukraine.
 Quoting: Recollector

Why would this be so?

Didn't you yourself say Putin does not intend to destroy Ukraine, he is only trying to denazify it?
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Please everyone stop quoting very long posts!!!
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Once upon a time in the west everyone knew how to snip... but snipping has gone out of fashion. The new generation is very ignorant really.
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Please everyone stop quoting very long posts!!!
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Once upon a time in the west everyone knew how to snip... but snipping has gone out of fashion. The new generation is very ignorant really.
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They think if you snip, you are messing with their posts or something and will retaliate in kind - or so they believe.
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The next several days come with a high risk of direct conflict between NATO and Russia.


The goal of the globalists was for Russia to be economically weakened and militarily weakened, working in tandem.


Ukraine MIGHT BE on the brink of falling, militarily.


Azovstal surrendering could be the first domino in a series of surrendering in several key garrisons (Marinka, Advivka, Sieverodonetsk, Lyman), which will trigger a general surrendering across the entire front.


If this will happen (I give it a good chance), get ready.


Hungary is not going to suicide by accepting the oil ban. While there is a chance that they can be forced, I think that time has passed, and Orban is not going to fold.


Turkey is going to veto Sweden into NATO, and possibly Finland as well. Turkey and Kurds are archenemies, and money is not going to convince Erdogan to forgo Sweden's love for PKK and their rejections of Turkey's requests.

But, as I said in my last update, Turkey have multiple options, and while I believe that they will veto Sweden, there are ways that they will just accept it.

 Quoting: Recollector

If I understand right, Turkey has the power to make it impossible for Sweden to enter NATO. Why is that? Maybe NATO should change its rules. A one-member ban should be impossible. Or is there something I have misunderstood?
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I know it's an outrageous idea, but take it a thought exercise.

What if Russia were itself to join NATO?

Sure, it goes against all logic as we know it - but let's give it some thought.

Wouldn't it be better than Russia joining China in some sort of unholy alliance?

It seems absolutely impossible either for NATO to ever accept Russia, or for Russia to want to join NATO.

But would this be impossible if NATO were to be "upgraded" into a Born Again NATO, with some more realistic visions adapted to the real modern world (not the world as it was after WW II)?

A NATO whose vision, and purposes, would not clash with those of Russia, but rather be able to encompass and integrate both - the western nations AND Russia's?

This would require a lot of work, and a lot of changing mentalities.
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The next several days come with a high risk of direct conflict between NATO and Russia.

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Hang on to your seats people.


If we get past next 4-5 days, we're going to get a little bit more time before the inevitable, time that I strongly suggest to be spent by preparing even more.
 Quoting: Recollector

Isn't trying to prepare just a waste of time if you are living in densely populated western Europe?

Anything you have stacked will be taken by force - if not by governments, then by roving criminal bands or wannabe rebels.
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Part V. The so-called war in Ukraine.






As I said before this war started, Russia is preparing its troops for WW3, a WW3 that will be similar to WW2, because Russia cannot win a conventional war against NATO, as long as NATO air superiority matters.


To conclude this part, as long as NATO doesn't directly intervene against Russia, Ukraine already lost, and it is doomed to not even exist anymore, if they keep dragging this conflict with the help of U.S. weapons and money.


The longer will TAKE, the more Russia will TAKE of Ukraine.
 Quoting: Recollector

Why would this be so?

Didn't you yourself say Putin does not intend to destroy Ukraine, he is only trying to denazify it?
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I don't understand how you came to this conclusion.


Ukraine won't be destroyed, unless the direct conflict between NATO and Russia will linger to much in Ukraine, before spilling over.


But Ukraine, as a country, is in danger of disappearing, because Russia cannot simply stop if Ukraine is going to mount a counter-offensive later on.


This will force Russia advance even more, capture even more, or destroy, if they can't capture, until one side is beaten to a pulp, and I don't see that side being Russia.


Even if Russia stops where they are NOW, Ukraine, as a country, already lost their entire gas and oil fields, 90% of their coal, 80% of their iron, biggest nuclear power plant, and about 30% of their best farm lands (Crimeea and Donbass).


They will be left with a "country" of 30 million people, that have NO RESOURCES, and only about 70% of their farm land.


Such country will rapidly collapse, many parts will join Russia, others Poland, and whatever is left (if anything is left) will be something like Rwanda, before that small nugget will also be absorbed by Russia or Poland.



The only way that Ukraine can be saved, and continue to exist, is to capitulate, and accept all Russian conditions, because in this case, Russia will make sure Ukraine survives as a country, but neutral and demilitarized.


But this is just a fantasy scenario, because it is not going to happen.


The globalists will make SURE that it won't happen, and instead, WW3 happens.
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The next several days come with a high risk of direct conflict between NATO and Russia.


The goal of the globalists was for Russia to be economically weakened and militarily weakened, working in tandem.


Ukraine MIGHT BE on the brink of falling, militarily.


Azovstal surrendering could be the first domino in a series of surrendering in several key garrisons (Marinka, Advivka, Sieverodonetsk, Lyman), which will trigger a general surrendering across the entire front.


If this will happen (I give it a good chance), get ready.


Hungary is not going to suicide by accepting the oil ban. While there is a chance that they can be forced, I think that time has passed, and Orban is not going to fold.


Turkey is going to veto Sweden into NATO, and possibly Finland as well. Turkey and Kurds are archenemies, and money is not going to convince Erdogan to forgo Sweden's love for PKK and their rejections of Turkey's requests.

But, as I said in my last update, Turkey have multiple options, and while I believe that they will veto Sweden, there are ways that they will just accept it.

 Quoting: Recollector

If I understand right, Turkey has the power to make it impossible for Sweden to enter NATO. Why is that? Maybe NATO should change its rules. A one-member ban should be impossible. Or is there something I have misunderstood?
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You missunderstood how a military alliance works. ANY MILITARY alliance.


A military alliance cannot function with majority. It must have unanimity in decisions, otherwise is not a military alliance.


It can't change the voting rules. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE.


What it can do is exclude members.
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I know it's an outrageous idea, but take it a thought exercise.

What if Russia were itself to join NATO?

Sure, it goes against all logic as we know it - but let's give it some thought.

Wouldn't it be better than Russia joining China in some sort of unholy alliance?

It seems absolutely impossible either for NATO to ever accept Russia, or for Russia to want to join NATO.

But would this be impossible if NATO were to be "upgraded" into a Born Again NATO, with some more realistic visions adapted to the real modern world (not the world as it was after WW II)?

A NATO whose vision, and purposes, would not clash with those of Russia, but rather be able to encompass and integrate both - the western nations AND Russia's?

This would require a lot of work, and a lot of changing mentalities.
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I saddens me to see that people don't know what I consider basic knowledge.


Russia intended to join NATO, but they were refused.


And I will tell you WHY.


The United States CANNOT ACCEPT in NATO any member that is their equal. The United States wants a bunch of weak countries that will be their SUBJECTS...not ALLIES.


The United States is the reason why the world is not united : they want to be the hegemon, and EVERYONE ELSE to be much weaker then them.


Is as simple as that.
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The next several days come with a high risk of direct conflict between NATO and Russia.


The goal of the globalists was for Russia to be economically weakened and militarily weakened, working in tandem.


Ukraine MIGHT BE on the brink of falling, militarily.


Azovstal surrendering could be the first domino in a series of surrendering in several key garrisons (Marinka, Advivka, Sieverodonetsk, Lyman), which will trigger a general surrendering across the entire front.


If this will happen (I give it a good chance), get ready.


Hungary is not going to suicide by accepting the oil ban. While there is a chance that they can be forced, I think that time has passed, and Orban is not going to fold.


Turkey is going to veto Sweden into NATO, and possibly Finland as well. Turkey and Kurds are archenemies, and money is not going to convince Erdogan to forgo Sweden's love for PKK and their rejections of Turkey's requests.

But, as I said in my last update, Turkey have multiple options, and while I believe that they will veto Sweden, there are ways that they will just accept it.

 Quoting: Recollector

If I understand right, Turkey has the power to make it impossible for Sweden to enter NATO. Why is that? Maybe NATO should change its rules. A one-member ban should be impossible. Or is there something I have misunderstood?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79568996



You missunderstood how a military alliance works. ANY MILITARY alliance.


A military alliance cannot function with majority. It must have unanimity in decisions, otherwise is not a military alliance.


It can't change the voting rules. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE.


What it can do is exclude members.
 Quoting: Recollector

From what you are saying yourself, NATO is not a military alliance. Turkey by itself is able to veto Sweden entering NATO - so how is there "unanimity of decision"?
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I know it's an outrageous idea, but take it a thought exercise.

What if Russia were itself to join NATO?

Sure, it goes against all logic as we know it - but let's give it some thought.

Wouldn't it be better than Russia joining China in some sort of unholy alliance?

It seems absolutely impossible either for NATO to ever accept Russia, or for Russia to want to join NATO.

But would this be impossible if NATO were to be "upgraded" into a Born Again NATO, with some more realistic visions adapted to the real modern world (not the world as it was after WW II)?

A NATO whose vision, and purposes, would not clash with those of Russia, but rather be able to encompass and integrate both - the western nations AND Russia's?

This would require a lot of work, and a lot of changing mentalities.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79568996




I saddens me to see that people don't know what I consider basic knowledge.


Russia intended to join NATO, but they were refused.


And I will tell you WHY.


The United States CANNOT ACCEPT in NATO any member that is their equal. The United States wants a bunch of weak countries that will be their SUBJECTS...not ALLIES.


The United States is the reason why the world is not united : they want to be the hegemon, and EVERYONE ELSE to be much weaker then them.


Is as simple as that.
 Quoting: Recollector

I hope it does not sadden you to see when people are trying to inform themselves.

I didn't know Russia actually intended to join NATO, as the idea seems to strange and counter-intuitive. Wasn't NATO created to protect the western nations against the expansion of communism? Admittedly that was the then USSR.

Who exactly vetoed Russia's entry into NATO?

Not everyone can be an expert in military matters from the start, DR...
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Part V. The so-called war in Ukraine.


By any moral definition, there is a war going on in Ukraine. People are killed, buildings destroyed, lives changed drastically.


But make no mistake, by definition, there is no war between Russia and Ukraine. If it were, it would have been over long time ago, or we would be in full WW3 by now.


My personal, again, PERSONAL estimates of casualties, is a 1 to 4 ratio, between Russia and Ukraine. I cannot go as far as trying to estimate dead and wounded, but I can say that total casualties are 15,000 for Russia and 60,000 for Ukraine.


Looking at how this conflict is waged, there is a higher death to wounded casualty ratio then a modern war. The conflict is mainly infantry, artillery and armored warfare, with the odd missile and air strikes here and there.


I can estimate that Ukraine dead toll is likely close to 10:1 , with Russia suffering at least 30% of total casualties being dead (4,500), with Ukraine suffering around 40,000 dead out of the total of 60,000 casualties.


If this would have been a war, Ukraine would be tens of Mariupols, hundreds of thousands of dead and millions more maimed. They wouldn't be a country anymore.


In the other thread, before being banned, I was very vocal against a certain poster, because like 90% of his posts were UNVERIFIED and blatant Ukrainian and Western propaganda, which I absolutely understand (the propaganda, that is), but I cannot stay silent when this propaganda clearly led to a FALSE IMAGE of Russia.



Make no mistake, Russia is not the U.S., the same way Ukraine is not Iraq. Russia is strong, but not U.S. level of strong, and Ukraine is far, FAR MORE powerful then Iraq ever was, not even counting full NATO informational and e-war support.


But even in this conditions, with high Russian casualties, we have to understand one simple fact, that everyone knows it, or it should know it : Russia attacked Ukraine with no more then 100,000 troops, after A SINGLE NIGHT of bombing only military targets, facing a 600,000 army, trained by NATO, with tens of thousands of veterans cycled for 8 years in Donbass, highly entrenched in the East (in a hybrid Vietnam/Maginot Line/Verdun style), with full support from NATO.


This is a fact, and looking at a map, Russia, in the above conditions, and showing massive restraint (not destroying cities, except Mariupol, not destroying the infrastructure, and not touching a SINGLE governmental building in Kiev, avoid at all costs civilian casualties), showed, at least to me, that they are HIGHLY motivated, very well trained and capable of winning in conditions that would be impossible for anyone else, INCLUDING THE U.S.


If the U.S. would have had invaded Iraq after one night of bombing...Saddam would still be sitting on his throne in Baghdad. The U.S. would have retreated after suffering first 1,000 dead, which would be probably before reaching Basra.



As I said before this war started, Russia is preparing its troops for WW3, a WW3 that will be similar to WW2, because Russia cannot win a conventional war against NATO, as long as NATO air superiority matters.


To conclude this part, as long as NATO doesn't directly intervene against Russia, Ukraine already lost, and it is doomed to not even exist anymore, if they keep dragging this conflict with the help of U.S. weapons and money.


The longer will TAKE, the more Russia will TAKE of Ukraine.
 Quoting: Recollector


from what I am seeing, the war in Ukraine may not be real as so many military precepts are being violated. the peasents from nowheresville speaking very good english, the stretched out immobile column. the signs in english???? the lack of jamming, just to name a fewof the oddities.
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A big apartment building with empty windows, intense fire coming out of 3 adjacent windwos, purportedly having been struck by a missile but no big hole in the wall.
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The next several days come with a high risk of direct conflict between NATO and Russia.


The goal of the globalists was for Russia to be economically weakened and militarily weakened, working in tandem.


Ukraine MIGHT BE on the brink of falling, militarily.


Azovstal surrendering could be the first domino in a series of surrendering in several key garrisons (Marinka, Advivka, Sieverodonetsk, Lyman), which will trigger a general surrendering across the entire front.


If this will happen (I give it a good chance), get ready.


Hungary is not going to suicide by accepting the oil ban. While there is a chance that they can be forced, I think that time has passed, and Orban is not going to fold.


Turkey is going to veto Sweden into NATO, and possibly Finland as well. Turkey and Kurds are archenemies, and money is not going to convince Erdogan to forgo Sweden's love for PKK and their rejections of Turkey's requests.

But, as I said in my last update, Turkey have multiple options, and while I believe that they will veto Sweden, there are ways that they will just accept it.

 Quoting: Recollector

If I understand right, Turkey has the power to make it impossible for Sweden to enter NATO. Why is that? Maybe NATO should change its rules. A one-member ban should be impossible. Or is there something I have misunderstood?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79568996



You missunderstood how a military alliance works. ANY MILITARY alliance.


A military alliance cannot function with majority. It must have unanimity in decisions, otherwise is not a military alliance.


It can't change the voting rules. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE.


What it can do is exclude members.
 Quoting: Recollector

From what you are saying yourself, NATO is not a military alliance. Turkey by itself is able to veto Sweden entering NATO - so how is there "unanimity of decision"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79568996



Do I have to do also grammar lessons?


If Turkey's vetoes, there is no unanimity in the DECISION TO ADMIT A NEW MEMBER.


I am saying that NATO is a military alliance, and by DEFAULT, works with unanimity of decision.



You said that they could change the voting rules...THEY CAN'T. And this is why any member can veto. But a DECISION will be taken by UNANIMITY.


Seriously, are you stupid?

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Re: WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month
I know it's an outrageous idea, but take it a thought exercise.

What if Russia were itself to join NATO?

Sure, it goes against all logic as we know it - but let's give it some thought.

Wouldn't it be better than Russia joining China in some sort of unholy alliance?

It seems absolutely impossible either for NATO to ever accept Russia, or for Russia to want to join NATO.

But would this be impossible if NATO were to be "upgraded" into a Born Again NATO, with some more realistic visions adapted to the real modern world (not the world as it was after WW II)?

A NATO whose vision, and purposes, would not clash with those of Russia, but rather be able to encompass and integrate both - the western nations AND Russia's?

This would require a lot of work, and a lot of changing mentalities.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79568996




I saddens me to see that people don't know what I consider basic knowledge.


Russia intended to join NATO, but they were refused.


And I will tell you WHY.


The United States CANNOT ACCEPT in NATO any member that is their equal. The United States wants a bunch of weak countries that will be their SUBJECTS...not ALLIES.


The United States is the reason why the world is not united : they want to be the hegemon, and EVERYONE ELSE to be much weaker then them.


Is as simple as that.
 Quoting: Recollector

I hope it does not sadden you to see when people are trying to inform themselves.

I didn't know Russia actually intended to join NATO, as the idea seems to strange and counter-intuitive. Wasn't NATO created to protect the western nations against the expansion of communism? Admittedly that was the then USSR.

Who exactly vetoed Russia's entry into NATO?

Not everyone can be an expert in military matters from the start, DR...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79568996



Russia approached the U.S. for entering NATO. It wasn't an official process, just Russian proposal to the U.S. to join NATO.


The U.S. said nope. They gave some stupid reasons, but everyone knows that the U.S. cannot accept an equal in NATO, especially Russia.


Globalist elite are ruling the U.S., and the U.S. does what the globalist tell them to do.


The globalists want to exist a SINGLE superpower, before they are ready for one world government. And this superpower is the U.S., and the only way to have it, is for ANYONE ELSE to be much weaker then the U.S., or controlled by the globalist cabal through other means.


Russia and China cannot be controlled by other means to the point of becoming puppet states. Like the U.K., or Germany, or Australia or Japan.


So, the moment a country like Russia would join NATO, all of a sudden the globalists run out of the perfect enemy while in the same time Russia becomes the U.S. equal in an alliance that will likely split the moment Russia doesn't accept the globalist agenda.



It is better to have Russia as the enemy, instead an ally that can, at any point, dismantle NATO, by rejecting the globalist agenda, which for Russia is to become, in the case of a potential NATO membership, a puppet state.
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If I understand right, Turkey has the power to make it impossible for Sweden to enter NATO. Why is that? Maybe NATO should change its rules. A one-member ban should be impossible. Or is there something I have misunderstood?
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You missunderstood how a military alliance works. ANY MILITARY alliance.


A military alliance cannot function with majority. It must have unanimity in decisions, otherwise is not a military alliance.


It can't change the voting rules. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE.


What it can do is exclude members.
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From what you are saying yourself, NATO is not a military alliance. Turkey by itself is able to veto Sweden entering NATO - so how is there "unanimity of decision"?
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Do I have to do also grammar lessons?


If Turkey's vetoes, there is no unanimity in the DECISION TO ADMIT A NEW MEMBER.


I am saying that NATO is a military alliance, and by DEFAULT, works with unanimity of decision.



You said that they could change the voting rules...THEY CAN'T. And this is why any member can veto. But a DECISION will be taken by UNANIMITY.


Seriously, are you stupid?
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Thank you for your civility.
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Maybe it's you who don't understand what I am saying, OP.
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I hope it does not sadden you to see when people are trying to inform themselves.

I didn't know Russia actually intended to join NATO, as the idea seems to strange and counter-intuitive. Wasn't NATO created to protect the western nations against the expansion of communism? Admittedly that was the then USSR.

Who exactly vetoed Russia's entry into NATO?

Not everyone can be an expert in military matters from the start, DR...
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Russia approached the U.S. for entering NATO. It wasn't an official process, just Russian proposal to the U.S. to join NATO.


The U.S. said nope. They gave some stupid reasons, but everyone knows that the U.S. cannot accept an equal in NATO, especially Russia.


Globalist elite are ruling the U.S., and the U.S. does what the globalist tell them to do.
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So in fact, it was not the US that said no, it was the globalists behind the US.

When did this happen? Who was the US spokesman or intermediate?
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Russia have almost taken Donbas. Won’t take long as the Ukraine forces are falling apart.

So what happens then. Does Russia stop. Or does it move towards Odessa and Moldova?

At what point NATO do something ?
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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 Quoting: Recollector

I hope it does not sadden you to see when people are trying to inform themselves.

I didn't know Russia actually intended to join NATO, as the idea seems to strange and counter-intuitive. Wasn't NATO created to protect the western nations against the expansion of communism? Admittedly that was the then USSR.

Who exactly vetoed Russia's entry into NATO?

Not everyone can be an expert in military matters from the start, DR...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79568996



Russia approached the U.S. for entering NATO. It wasn't an official process, just Russian proposal to the U.S. to join NATO.


The U.S. said nope. They gave some stupid reasons, but everyone knows that the U.S. cannot accept an equal in NATO, especially Russia.


Globalist elite are ruling the U.S., and the U.S. does what the globalist tell them to do.
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 Quoting: Recollector

So in fact, it was not the US that said no, it was the globalists behind the US.

When did this happen? Who was the US spokesman or intermediate?
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The U.S. is the spearhead of globalist elites since 1947. Every single president was and is under their payroll since.


Exception : Trump.


And because he didn't was with them, he got removed. And won't come back, ever.
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dr do you think trump is alive or has been killed?
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Russia have almost taken Donbas. Won’t take long as the Ukraine forces are falling apart.

So what happens then. Does Russia stop. Or does it move towards Odessa and Moldova?

At what point NATO do something ?
 Quoting: ParamedicUK



Now this are very pertinent questions, and very hard to answer.


As anything that I have predicted with Covid, events can accelerate or delay the inevitable total collapse, in order to implement the NWO and one world government.


My mistake was to give hard dates, and even if I conditioned those date on certain events, most people only remembered THE DATES, telling me how I failed in my predictions.


But have I?


Shortly, before answering your question, I would just say that my prediction that world will NEVER GO BACK TO NORMAL is pretty damn accurate. My prediction that we're going to collapse, one way or the other (bio-weapons, martial law OR war) is on track.



And those prediction were made in the spring of 2020, when pretty much everyone alive would never believe that I could be right.


Now, it's 2022, and I bet that the close to 100% percentage of people that in April 2020 thought I as insane, predicting that world will never return to normal and will collapse, is far smaller today.



What is going to happen after Donbass fails?


As I previously said recently, the course of events will depend entirely on globalists decision about Ukraine : let it fall and get Poland involved, and by extent NATO, and fight Russia inside former Ukraine (at first) and in Eastern Europe afterwards, or NOT let Ukraine fell, and fight Russia as much as possible inside Ukraine, before Eastern Europe gets the brunt.


Russia's response will be a reactive one to such scenarios.


The only possible way that Russia will initiate, is if Ukraine, which is rebuilding their army in Poland, Romania and Germany, being armed with enough NATO hardware, will get to the point of threatening the newly conquered territories.


If such scenario happens, Russia will call for mobilization of reservists, which won't take very long, and strike the Ukrainian training bases and personnel in Poland, Germany and Romania.


But I believe that such a scenario, while possible, doesn't have much chances of happening. Russia will rather present the situation to their people, call for reservists mobilization, deploy, but will NOT strike the training bases, rather using this threat for widening the conflict in Ukraine past Donbass, towards 4 main axis : Dnieprpetrovsk - Zaporoje (Dniepr river part that is most easily to defend, due to widening of the river between the 2 cities), Krivoy Rog industrial conurbation (back door to Dniepr river, in case first axis attack fails), Mykolaiv ->Odessa -> Transnistria, and Kharkiv metro area.


Once they achieved that, and NATO will still not initiate a direct or indirect attack (using Polish-Lithuanian "peace" keepers), Russia will STOP.


If NATO gets involved, it's WW3, so...yeah. It's WW3.




My personal belief is that Russia will do everything possible to avoid being the FIRST who strikes NATO, unless the Ukrainian army that is rebuilding outside Ukraine is strong enough, and able to start a counteroffensive BEFORE Russia is able to consolidate their current front lines.


No matter how much trust level Putin have (and it is A LOT, over 90%), he, his staff and his generals cannot risk the opening salvo, without having a SERIOUS REASON, otherwise those trust levels will quickly drop, and even risk popular uprising.


So, Russia will take it to the chin, before they answer.



Thing is, it doesn't really matter what Russia does after Donbass, WW3 is 100% inevitable, be it June, July or August, at the latest.


I believe that unless Russia preempts in Poland, Germany and Romania, the forces currently training and arming in the above 3 countries will be ready for a counter offensive in August.

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