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WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month

 
Recollector  (OP)

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Thinking like a strategist, I believe that China will send a preemptive strike in the next 4 to 6 hours, but not a military one, but a massive economic attack.

It is the art of war, to win without fighting.

Keeping the enemy extremely busy with a market collapsing at 20% per hour. I think that of the possible developments, this would be the least worst.

But it's just a guess, I don't know anything, I'm just tense here, as we all are.

hiding
 Quoting: Mr.Borg


That would usher in the Great reset imminently imo

waitwhat
 Quoting: Shamanic


Nope china's entire response to this is to hold military exercises. They literally announced it themselves. If nothing has happened yet nothing is going to happen. Pelosi called their bluff. I'll bet everything I own on that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69036499



I hope you remember the "exercises" Russia started in late 2021...


I am sure China is going to do 3 days of "exercises" and call it a day. s/
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China is a nothing Burger, the US is not afraid and they just demonstrated that to the world today, release the tic tacs
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Economics play into this as well. China is holding over 1t of us debt. Pretty hefty insurance. Can their economy handle sanctions? They still owe the world for Covid, but nobody is holding them accountable for that.
Would love to see some learned write ups that include military, economic, and political histories and possible courses of action.
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(OP) you are so wrong!

Pelosi landed and China did nothing! Paper Tiger!

Now I wish they had blown her out of the sky, they would be doing us a huge favor but they did NOTHING.

you said "RUSSIA, who already engaged the U.S. in Ukraine, with huge success."

You are delusional. Russia is struggling badly and has lost how many Generals? It's unheard of how many Generals and officers they've lost in such a short time.

"At least 317 Russian officers have been killed in Ukraine, a third of whom are majors, lieutenant colonels and colonels, independent Russian media reported in April, citing publicly available data."

The USA gov is garbage, completely corrupt, I'm not a fan, but Russia is weak and so is China.
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(OP) you are so wrong!

Pelosi landed and China did nothing! Paper Tiger!

Now I wish they had blown her out of the sky, they would be doing us a huge favor but they did NOTHING.

you said "RUSSIA, who already engaged the U.S. in Ukraine, with huge success."

You are delusional. Russia is struggling badly and has lost how many Generals? It's unheard of how many Generals and officers they've lost in such a short time.

"At least 317 Russian officers have been killed in Ukraine, a third of whom are majors, lieutenant colonels and colonels, independent Russian media reported in April, citing publicly available data."

The USA gov is garbage, completely corrupt, I'm not a fan, but Russia is weak and so is China.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79549194


Pelosi is a Chinese asset. Was forced to go there so China could have a pretext for invasion.
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Thinking like a strategist, I believe that China will send a preemptive strike in the next 4 to 6 hours, but not a military one, but a massive economic attack.

It is the art of war, to win without fighting.

Keeping the enemy extremely busy with a market collapsing at 20% per hour. I think that of the possible developments, this would be the least worst.

But it's just a guess, I don't know anything, I'm just tense here, as we all are.

hiding
 Quoting: Mr.Borg


That would usher in the Great reset imminently imo

waitwhat
 Quoting: Shamanic


Nope china's entire response to this is to hold military exercises. They literally announced it themselves. If nothing has happened yet nothing is going to happen. Pelosi called their bluff. I'll bet everything I own on that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69036499


Yep!
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Economics play into this as well. China is holding over 1t of us debt. Pretty hefty insurance. Can their economy handle sanctions? They still owe the world for Covid, but nobody is holding them accountable for that.
Would love to see some learned write ups that include military, economic, and political histories and possible courses of action.
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""They still owe the world for Covid""
LOOOL



https://imgur.com/ypQHzt8


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Translation

"Decipher:

11.06.2019

#US sent a planeload of biological weapons to China. Pandemics may soon begin in China.

Let them not forget that if there is a Turk on earth, there is hope.
""

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China and Russia have been planning this for over 50 years

But now they own your political system including POTUS

Russia wants Canada China wants the USA

Good conversation happening right now


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08/02/2022 04:11 PM
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China and Russia have been planning this for over 50 years

But now they own your political system including POTUS

Russia wants Canada China wants the USA

Good conversation happening right now


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83863092


Are you insane?


To the people who thinks Asians are all talk.
Listen.

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So finally after decades of creating Nukes, Chemical, Biological and all sort of Devilish/Demonic BS; the big dogs are ready to unleash the big war on the masses.

All the while peons still think the democrats or republicans are to blame when in reality all these evil politicians and puppets (yes that includes Trump and Biden). Blame Obama nah how about Trump, nah he was peaceful even though he hit Syria and almost started WW3 with Iran prior to Covid, um maybe Biden senile ass. Wait Wait it's Bush nah Regan. Hogwash.

World governments trade with "enemies". Go to space together, send jobs overseas and import immigrants all over. The Sheep point the finger at each based on arrogant perception when in reality the Human Race deserves whats coming. Hell some of your ancestors may be from other worlds and you bitches deserve it as well.
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President Xi Jinping has today demonstrated that China is all words and no actions. A military drill in this situation is pathetic and nobody will take China serious hereafter.
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China and Russia have been planning this for over 50 years

But now they own your political system including POTUS

Russia wants Canada China wants the USA

Good conversation happening right now


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83863092


Are you insane?


To the people who thinks Asians are all talk.
Listen.

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hesright
Our Judgement defeats us
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China won’t do shit. They fear Western sanctions which is why they aren’t arming Russia in Ukraine. They know which side their bread is buttered. It’s all for show. Russia sucking up to them as usual, but China doesn’t give a shit about Russia.
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my mom died the other day. puts things into perspective. i have given all the fucks i have to give in thing life . bring it !
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Thinking like a strategist, I believe that China will send a preemptive strike in the next 4 to 6 hours, but not a military one, but a massive economic attack.

It is the art of war, to win without fighting.

Keeping the enemy extremely busy with a market collapsing at 20% per hour. I think that of the possible developments, this would be the least worst.

But it's just a guess, I don't know anything, I'm just tense here, as we all are.

hiding
 Quoting: Mr.Borg


That would usher in the Great reset imminently imo

waitwhat
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this is most likely. a combination of drills and economic warfare provoked purposely by the US gov't to destroy the US economy. The Biden admin knows what the retaliation will be
yomtvrap
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I think Recollector is full of crap. It's August and WWIII hasn't started. The sky isn't falling. Doom off.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83483868


epiclol



I don't know what is your definition of WW3, but it is already started, the only thing that is missing is a direct clash between superpowers.


Don't you SEE that this is where we are heading?



Have you missed the part of my thread where I explained, in simple words, that individuals perceive TIME different then societies do?



Do not hope for me to be right, hope that I am wrong. I hope that I am wrong.



But I am full of crap because the most devastating event in our lives didn't started...YET?
 Quoting: Recollector

Where do you WWIII, OP?

On the internet?
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my mom died the other day. puts things into perspective. i have given all the fucks i have to give in thing life . bring it !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83875764

ABsolutely right. I know what it is man, we all have to go through it.....

But make no mistake, contrary to your expectations life is going to take up again at some point.
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I think Recollector is full of crap. It's August and WWIII hasn't started. The sky isn't falling. Doom off.
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epiclol



I don't know what is your definition of WW3, but it is already started, the only thing that is missing is a direct clash between superpowers.


Don't you SEE that this is where we are heading?



Have you missed the part of my thread where I explained, in simple words, that individuals perceive TIME different then societies do?



Do not hope for me to be right, hope that I am wrong. I hope that I am wrong.



But I am full of crap because the most devastating event in our lives didn't started...YET?
 Quoting: Recollector

Where do you WWIII, OP?

On the internet?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83833485

"where do you SEE..."
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China won’t do shit. They fear Western sanctions which is why they aren’t arming Russia in Ukraine. They know which side their bread is buttered. It’s all for show. Russia sucking up to them as usual, but China doesn’t give a shit about Russia.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67309505




?????????? sanctions lol

do u know if china decides to stop 'export' , that then 'world' will be done in like 5-10 days (way less than china can sustain) ))))
Anonymous Coward
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I hope you all prepared for at least 1 year of survival.


The vaccination plan did not worked.


Plan B started : massive war with swift economic collapse.



Population reduction by all means and economic collapse is NEEDED for the Great Reset.



The time to prep is very, very short, no matter where you live.
 Quoting: Recollector


How short
 Quoting: ParamedicUK



Days.
 Quoting: Recollector




This short sequence of comments took place on February 21st, page 402 of the thread.



Russia invaded 3 days later.



I hope that all of you listened and have 1 year preps since, and if not, make EVERYTHING in your power to prep as good as humanly possible.



I have told you that at some point in time, China will make their move, when they will be ready.



I believe that China is ready, and will make their move.



I DO NOW KNOW what they will do, but it will be a military move that will bring China, the U.S. and Taiwan armed forces into an armed conflict that COULD, and highly likely WILL escalate.



I still have hopes that the U.S. will back down, but just like in the case of Ukraine, my hopes are dimming very fast.



Get ready guys.



It is about to get REAL.
 Quoting: Recollector

Could you perhaps - as a suggestion - put down a short list with essentials to prep, OP?

I mean, not "food, water, and toilet paper" - we are aware of that kind of thing, I suppose.

For added info, does it make any difference if you are located in Europe rather than in the US?
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VERY IMPORTANT


THE REAL AMERICAN VIRUS UPDATE




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wtfdid
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So Pelosi went to taiwan and nothing happened, pure word again the chinese? LMAO, thoughts?
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I hope you all prepared for at least 1 year of survival.


The vaccination plan did not worked.


Plan B started : massive war with swift economic collapse.



Population reduction by all means and economic collapse is NEEDED for the Great Reset.



The time to prep is very, very short, no matter where you live.
 Quoting: Recollector


How short
 Quoting: ParamedicUK



Days.
 Quoting: Recollector




This short sequence of comments took place on February 21st, page 402 of the thread.



Russia invaded 3 days later.



I hope that all of you listened and have 1 year preps since, and if not, make EVERYTHING in your power to prep as good as humanly possible.



I have told you that at some point in time, China will make their move, when they will be ready.



I believe that China is ready, and will make their move.



I DO NOW KNOW what they will do, but it will be a military move that will bring China, the U.S. and Taiwan armed forces into an armed conflict that COULD, and highly likely WILL escalate.



I still have hopes that the U.S. will back down, but just like in the case of Ukraine, my hopes are dimming very fast.



Get ready guys.



It is about to get REAL.
 Quoting: Recollector


hmm isn't it the usa making her move?
2 ways to see that, i see that usa is finally taking steps to escalate to a point where russia and now china just has to respond, similar to japan oil stop in ww2.
Taking Ukraine as an example, it is so russia or china make a move so usa can say see they are the bougie man!
But i could of course see it all wrong.
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Re: WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month
Made a long post about current situation with Pelosi's visit in Taiwan, but I probably used a banned word, and it didn't got posted, with reasons why I believe we are heading towards a confrontation between the U.S. and China.



This time I will keep it short.



I believe that we are going to see something bad taking place in South China Sea and/or Taiwan, because this time China isn't bluffing, simply for the fact that Russia and China are on the verge of going full on against the U.S.



Ukraine, Taiwan, aren't the targets.



The target is the U.S. military.



And I believe that this is the time when China stops being on the sidelines, and act militarily against the U.S., the same way Russia did with Ukraine.




Hopefully, Pelosi will NOT go to Taiwan.
 Quoting: Recollector

Can China act militarily against the US, "the same way Russia did with Ukraine"?

The idea seems so ludicrous. At least to me.
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A war between China and U.S. would never devolve into a ww2 style grind like today in Ukraine. We live Oceans apart and have far better long range capabilities making any troops invasions impossible for either side. The movie Red Dawn came out like 30 years ago. Give your heads a shake. its 2022
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Just as an fyi, astrologers have noted Aug and Oct as months where war could break out.
It's coming for sure but we still have a bit of time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83786545

This doesn't mean it's coming for sure. It's impossible to predict war with certainty.
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Just as an fyi, astrologers have noted Aug and Oct as months where war could break out.
It's coming for sure but we still have a bit of time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83786545

This doesn't mean it's coming for sure. It's impossible to predict war with certainty.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83833485


If you can't predict this doesn't mean others can not the thing that is impossible for you
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Economics play into this as well. China is holding over 1t of us debt. Pretty hefty insurance. Can their economy handle sanctions? They still owe the world for Covid, but nobody is holding them accountable for that.
Would love to see some learned write ups that include military, economic, and political histories and possible courses of action.
 Quoting: soccerinco


I read several years ago, but can not verify, that China pledged much of their US debt as collateral to some
European banks.
Think that through.
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So, broomstick one has landed. Let the games begin.hiding
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I am patiently waiting for real stuff to be reported.



My own assessment is that things are going to heat up in the coming hours. Not days.



Hours.
 Quoting: Recollector


Asians are VERY big on not losing face.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Wrong
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Two bits of news are relevant to what is coming.



First, is the announcing of military drills in 6 areas all around Taiwan, starting on 4th through 7th of August.


Secondly, we have seen the military build-up in Fujian during the day today, but now, the Chinese people have been asked not to post any other military moves of PLA.



Now, I can bet solid money that starting tonight, there will be a shit ton of PLA military mobilization for a BLOCKADE of Taiwan.



I know most Americans, who hate the democrats, wanted to see Pelosi's plane go down in flames. They should have know better that the chances of this happening were slim to none.


Other people are claiming that China is no bite, only bark, because Pelosi's plane didn't got shot down. Those people are complete idiots, and can't see further then 5 seconds away.



This situation had entered a path that will end up with a direct conflict between the U.S. and China, and I have said that this COULD take place today, but I have also said that I have no idea what China will do, but what they will do will be a military response.




As of now, it seems that China chose to do a blockade of Taiwan, that will start pretty damn soon. Those "exercises" around Taiwan, from 4th to 7th August will not end on August 7th.



They will continue, and continue, and in the mean time, both China and the U.S. will prepare for war. Taiwan is surely prepared to fight hard against an INVASION, but against a BLOCKADE, they are pretty much unable to do shit for change.



China's blockade will not start with a complete cut-off of Taiwan, but it will evolve to that point. When that point will be reached, the U.S. will have to intervene, otherwise Taiwan will collapse and China will simply walk in, with minimal losses, and take it over.



Think of Russia's build-up around Ukraine, just much shorter in time, and much more devastating for Taiwan, because it will be a blockade.



The advantage of a blockade is clear for China : Xi remains in power (a blockade is an act of war, except China and the Chinese won't see it like this, because Taiwan is not an independent country, gives Xi saving face in preparation for war with the U.S.), the people of China will see that their leaders and army are serious about Taiwan and protecting China against U.S., and part of the Taiwanese people will absolutely rise up against the government, while others against the Chinese.



This is not a game or a movie.



The signs are clear : there is going to be a blockade, and it will last until the U.S. intervenes or Taiwan caves.



And since the U.S. didn't do anything DIRECTLY in Ukraine, but sending some crap weapons, in case of Taiwan they really can't do shit, except DIRECT intervention, which they are too weak to do it.



China needed Pelosi visit like air. It is perfect for them. The same way Russia convinced their own people (and their own people's opinion is what matters for Russia) to support the special military operation, China will convince their own people (which is the only opinion they give a shit about) to line up behind the party and support the blockade.




It is going to get really hot in and around Taiwan. It is already going hot, with massive PLA deployments in the area.
 Quoting: Recollector



Agreed on all accounts. A blockade would soften the target for a later invasion. It sure is a smart move.

As far as internal opinion, China already has all the support it needs to go ahead with whatever they decide to do with Taiwan. Pelosi was a convenient catalyst and considering all the context, it's kind of a "now or never" moment for China to do it's move and put an end to this endless Taiwan saga. We will see soon enough.


President Xi Jinping has today demonstrated that China is all words and no actions. A military drill in this situation is pathetic and nobody will take China serious hereafter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83946947



It's virtually impossible for China not to seize this opportunity to finally make a move against Taiwan.

The military drill shit is just a cover for the beginning of whatever they decided to do, possible a blockade (at least initially).

The hypothesis of China "doing nothing" at this juncture is virtually nonexistent. They basically have NO alternative and WILL have to make good on those threats, no matter the cost for them. Which is why I don't rule out a full assault, "shock'n awe" style, although starting a blockade will give hem time to properly prepare for the "full monty" option.

By the end of this week we will have a clearer picture of what's to come.





GLP