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WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month

 
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So I was going to check out "The Road" that you posted...

Apparently you can no longer stream it, rent it or buy it... wonder why that is....

[link to reelgood.com (secure)]

Not available to watch free online.


Not available to stream on a subscription service.


Not available to stream on a TV everywhere service.


Not available to rent or buy.
 Quoting: Dead_Check


Just checked Amazon. Not there either.

I have it on DVD somewhere in the theatre room. Maybe I need to watch it again this weekend.
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ahhh
 Quoting: Still


It's not a great movie. Very dark and depressing, with no point.
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READ THE DAMN THREAD!!!

Losers like you keep asking the same stupid questions about mortality rates and OP has REPEATEDLY stated his model is designed to project INFECTION RATES ONLY. He has REPEATEDLY stated his model does NOT address mortality rates.

READ BEFORE YOU POST!!!

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72997071


Infection rates mean jack shit to us. Can we get it? Sure. Just like any common cold. But will it kill us is what we care about?
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Infection rate is what it MATTERS with this virus. Rest is poetry.

Why?


Because 18% of the cases need ICU. No ICU, 18% dead. The more are infected, the MORE are those that need ICU.

That is step one : 18% DEAD because no ICU beds (which means ventilators, computers AND MEDICS.

Step 2 : due to lack of ICU beds...EVERYONE that needs ICU beds will die : car accidents, heart failures, kidney patients, etc. etc.

Add 10-12% more percent.


So, in just 2 fucking steps, the mortality rate is 30% JUST BECAUSE there are no fucking beds and medics available.


Step 3 : China is offline. 80% of pharmaceuticals and/or ingredients are produced in China.
From diabetics to recovering patients, ALL NEED medication to stay fucking alive.

Add 15% more.


And I am not even TALKING ABOUT THE FUCKING VIRUS DEATH RATE, just SECONDARY DEATHS !


Now you understand WHY the fucking infection rate matters and the rest is fucking poetry?

 Quoting: deplorable recollector


Perhaps Federal reserve and other central banks instead of giving free money to the already super wealthy could let all these billions go where they actually help our socities.
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No amount of coin is going to stop this microbe.
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Just checked Amazon. Not there either.

I have it on DVD somewhere in the theatre room. Maybe I need to watch it again this weekend.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith



One EXCELLENT show to watch for free is "After Armageddon" on YouTube. It was a Discovery Channel original. And it's mimicking EVERYTHING that is happening now.

Prepare

WWG1WGA
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Sorry, it was History Channel.

[youtube] [link to m.youtube.com (secure)]
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Thank you. I will look.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith


Lady Jane, did you get to see the video? I've made a couple of posts for the forum to check out.

Deplorable Recollector, keep up the good work! (not attempting to hijack your post, sorry!)


Thread: Surviving In A Post-Apocalyptic Environment | Aftermath - ANOTHER COVID 19/CORONAVIRUS PRIMER

Thread: "AFTER ARMAGEDDON - HISTORY CHANNEL" - A COVID-19 PRIMER... WHAT TO EXPECT
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South Korea and Italy CV-19 timelines.

I will update this post with new numbers and what can be expected in term of new cases and new clusters.

January 20th : South Korea's first confirmed case.
.
.
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February 17th : 31 cases in total.
February 18th : Daegu church 1st case.
February 19th : 15 new cases (Daegu church cluster established), 62 total cases in SK.
February 20th : 49 new cases, 111 total cases.
February 21st : 98 new cases, 209 total cases.
February 22nd : 229 new cases, 438 total cases.
February 23nd : in progress.


Additional clusters (1-2) are expected to pop-up in South Korea in the next 48 hours, along with new cases from established Daegu cluster, albeit less than previous days.
Next cluster will probably be in Seoul area and/or city of Cheongdo, just south of Daegu.


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January 30th : Italy's first confirmed case.
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.
.
February 19th : 4 cases in total.
February 20th : Lombardy cluster, 2 cases.
February 21st : 17 new cases (Lombardy cluster established), 23 total cases.
February 22nd : 56 new cases, 78 total cases.
February 23rd : in progress.




Additional clusters (1-2) are expected to pop-up in Italy in the next 72 hours, along with new cases from Lombardy cluster.
Next cluster will probably be in Venice area.


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Expecting clusters in the next 72 hours in other countries.
Expecting a cluster in Japan in the next 48-72 hours.

 Quoting: deplorable recollector


117 confirmed in Italy 2 hours ago.. Now up to 132 confirmed this minute..
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Italy 9.00 GMT
38 new cases today, total 117
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AS EVERY ONE OF THESE OTHER COUNTRIES GIVES US THE 'REAL' NUMBERS...THE ENTIRE WORLD CAN SEE WHAT FUCKIN SHITS CHINUH 'IS'!!!.....


LYIN COCKSUCKIN EVIL CUNTZ!...
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I don't know if they are "real", this is what the government says
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South Korea and Italy CV-19 timelines.

I will update this post with new numbers and what can be expected in term of new cases and new clusters.

January 20th : South Korea's first confirmed case.
.
.
.
February 17th : 31 cases in total.
February 18th : Daegu church 1st case.
February 19th : 15 new cases (Daegu church cluster established), 62 total cases in SK.
February 20th : 49 new cases, 111 total cases.
February 21st : 98 new cases, 209 total cases.
February 22nd : 229 new cases, 438 total cases.
February 23nd : in progress.


Additional clusters (1-2) are expected to pop-up in South Korea in the next 48 hours, along with new cases from established Daegu cluster, albeit less than previous days.
Next cluster will probably be in Seoul area and/or city of Cheongdo, just south of Daegu.


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January 30th : Italy's first confirmed case.
.
.
.
February 19th : 4 cases in total.
February 20th : Lombardy cluster, 2 cases.
February 21st : 17 new cases (Lombardy cluster established), 23 total cases.
February 22nd : 56 new cases, 78 total cases.
February 23rd : in progress.




Additional clusters (1-2) are expected to pop-up in Italy in the next 72 hours, along with new cases from Lombardy cluster.
Next cluster will probably be in Venice area.


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Expecting clusters in the next 72 hours in other countries.
Expecting a cluster in Japan in the next 48-72 hours.

 Quoting: deplorable recollector


S. Korea: 602 confirmed right now...
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South Korea and Italy CV-19 timelines.

I will update this post with new numbers and what can be expected in term of new cases and new clusters.

January 20th : South Korea's first confirmed case.
.
.
.
February 17th : 31 cases in total.
February 18th : Daegu church 1st case.
February 19th : 15 new cases (Daegu church cluster established), 62 total cases in SK.
February 20th : 49 new cases, 111 total cases.
February 21st : 98 new cases, 209 total cases.
February 22nd : 229 new cases, 438 total cases.
February 23nd : in progress.


Additional clusters (1-2) are expected to pop-up in South Korea in the next 48 hours, along with new cases from established Daegu cluster, albeit less than previous days.
Next cluster will probably be in Seoul area and/or city of Cheongdo, just south of Daegu.


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January 30th : Italy's first confirmed case.
.
.
.
February 19th : 4 cases in total.
February 20th : Lombardy cluster, 2 cases.
February 21st : 17 new cases (Lombardy cluster established), 23 total cases.
February 22nd : 56 new cases, 78 total cases.
February 23rd : in progress.




Additional clusters (1-2) are expected to pop-up in Italy in the next 72 hours, along with new cases from Lombardy cluster.
Next cluster will probably be in Venice area.


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Expecting clusters in the next 72 hours in other countries.
Expecting a cluster in Japan in the next 48-72 hours.

 Quoting: deplorable recollector


AFTER THIS IS IT HONG KONG AND SINGAPORE?..
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Italy at 157 cases, +78 from last night (PST)
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One EXCELLENT show to watch for free is "After Armageddon" on YouTube. It was a Discovery Channel original. And it's mimicking EVERYTHING that is happening now.

Prepare

WWG1WGA
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Sorry, it was History Channel.

[youtube] [link to m.youtube.com (secure)]
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Thank you. I will look.
 Quoting: Lady Jayne Smith


Lady Jane, did you get to see the video? I've made a couple of posts for the forum to check out.

Deplorable Recollector, keep up the good work! (not attempting to hijack your post, sorry!)


Thread: Surviving In A Post-Apocalyptic Environment | Aftermath - ANOTHER COVID 19/CORONAVIRUS PRIMER

Thread: "AFTER ARMAGEDDON - HISTORY CHANNEL" - A COVID-19 PRIMER... WHAT TO EXPECT
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No, we went out last night. I need to add to preps today, then I will watch some things.

I just pinned one of your threads to help others.
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South Korea and Italy CV-19 timelines.

I will update this post with new numbers and what can be expected in term of new cases and new clusters.

January 20th : South Korea's first confirmed case.
.
.
.
February 17th : 31 cases in total.
February 18th : Daegu church 1st case.
February 19th : 15 new cases (Daegu church cluster established), 62 total cases in SK.
February 20th : 49 new cases, 111 total cases.
February 21st : 98 new cases, 209 total cases.
February 22nd : 229 new cases, 438 total cases.
February 23nd : in progress.


Additional clusters (1-2) are expected to pop-up in South Korea in the next 48 hours, along with new cases from established Daegu cluster, albeit less than previous days.
Next cluster will probably be in Seoul area and/or city of Cheongdo, just south of Daegu.


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January 30th : Italy's first confirmed case.
.
.
.
February 19th : 4 cases in total.
February 20th : Lombardy cluster, 2 cases.
February 21st : 17 new cases (Lombardy cluster established), 23 total cases.
February 22nd : 56 new cases, 78 total cases.
February 23rd : in progress.




Additional clusters (1-2) are expected to pop-up in Italy in the next 72 hours, along with new cases from Lombardy cluster.
Next cluster will probably be in Venice area.


--------------------------------------------------------

Expecting clusters in the next 72 hours in other countries.
Expecting a cluster in Japan in the next 48-72 hours.

 Quoting: deplorable recollector


Does this essentially confirm your theory of the r0 being >6?
Dunno how you work your mathematical sorcery but I sure as hell appreciate it.
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Of course frequency can be used to destroy this virus and all others, and they know it, and they use this in military and haarp.

And its just all bullshit.

Know that they can clean up earth in less than a year of all contaminants as well.

This is what they need to disclose.
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The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist.
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Howdy motherfuckers
I hear you talking about MMS as though it were something that's totally fine and cool to be in your bloodstream, and I like your forward thinking. It's pretty radical to have a ClO2 compound that really likes to steal electrons from nearby molecules in something that totally sorta kinda needs to retain
1. Electrically stable and malleable environments in order to signal dilation or contraction of the blood vessels
2. A constant stable pH that might sorta kinda totally rise in the presence of freed H+ atoms due to the oxidation of nearby molecules from an oxidizing agent like ClO2
You guys are pretty coolio, dudes!
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hi again, from Iowa, so lets say you have a friend with an important job for one of the acronyms, abc, etc... if the US was going too shit, why would that person buy a brand new mustang, it doesn't add up
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It does.

Sun Tzu.

Look strong when you are weak.

Buy a brand new car to show that all is good...when in fact it is bad as fuck.
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yeah if all going to hell borrow as much as ya can .mustang i
would go porche
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I am not missing any questions.


It's just that I do not answer to questions that nobody can answer.I am not a seer or a prophet.


I have no idea what will happen, and I have already said that there are 2 possible scenarios.


Anyone who is asking any question on the lines of "What will happen?", please browse my posts on this thread.


I won't repeat what I have ALREADY said.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


OP,

I've been a strong supporter of your thread from the very beginning.

That said, I suppose that I didn't make myself clear and for that, I apologize.

I suppose what I was getting at is this...do you suppose you'd be willing to Extrapolate or Theorize what wicked things cometh our way? In previous posts, you gave a morsel on what to expect. Perhaps I'm expecting too much, but for those of us who'd be really interested, do you suppose you'd be willing to give us Detailed Opinion of what you are Thinking?

Thanks for your time and consideration with regard to this matter. hf
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Good question
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Well, let me put it this way. In today's world, information is instant. We live in a society that is prone to panic more then any other time in the past.


What happened in the past 30 years or so, we watched live wars on TVs...wars that were FAR from our homes.
We watched terror attacks. And for 99% of us, those were far away.

We got into a state of mind that things are bad...but they are always far away from us, and we can have a drink and watch them unfold on our TV and computer screens.


This is a different beast. It's a pandemic, and it will hit home for most of us.

There are a number of things that I am 100% sure that WILL happen in the near future. I cannot give a time line, but I believe that March 5-6 is SHTF time.

I know that the economic impact will be devastating, which will trigger mass unemployment and skyrocketing prices...which will trigger social unrest.

I don't know WHEN it will happen, but it is going to be soon.

What I do not know, and it might accelerate the SHTF, is PANIC.
I expect panic all over the world, but it highly depends on WHERE it will happen.


For example, an uncontrolled panic in Milan, Italy, following a lock-down will absolutely be more impactful then a panic in Qom, Iran.

Europeans and Americans won't blink an eye, if there is a panic buying in Qom....but if it's Milan, a major European city, they will give a fuck.


A panic buying in Milan can trigger a panic buying in MANY European cities. It will be a chain reaction that will NOT exist if the panic buying is taking place in Qom, or some city in Thailand or Cambodia.

This is a factor that can accelerate EVERYTHING : the panic, the bank closures, the economic collapse, way earlier then expected.


The economy will collapse, 100%.
There will be worldwide panic, 100%.
The pandemic will hit all countries, 100%.
There will be lock-downs, 100%.
There will be quarantines, 100%.
There will be martial law in MANY countries, 100%.



I just don't know when exactly, where exactly, and how bad it will get.


But I do know that if lock-downs won't start in the next 72 hours, in many major cities...SHTF is going to be biblical, potentially destroying the social fabric in a way that will take DECADES to recover.

Sadly, no country will lock-down the major cities BEFORE is too late, and every day that passes, is leading to the worst-case scenario.


The time to prepare is extremely short. Between 3 and 7 days, depending on the country exposure to tourism.



We are heading to a historical change. World will drastically change, in the next 2-3 weeks, and the best case-scenario is still an absolute economic nightmare, martial laws all over the world, with a pandemic that will make the Spanish Flu look like "good days".

And this is the best-case scenario, but we are heading to the worst-case scenario, with every day that passes, planes still flying, people still gathering at festivals, sport events, etc.


My best advice is for everyone to prepare for a deep economic recession, with high unemployment and high prices...because it is the only scenario that we can prepare for.

The other scenario, it doesn't really matter how prepared you are. It will matter how skilled you are at surviving, because the world will be a very nasty place.


Think Mad Max. Or The Road.
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I do think this depends on where you live, but yes this will be bad. I grew up in Trailer Park with a bi polar mom. I think I will be okay.
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Re: WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month
South Korea and Italy CV-19 timelines.

I will update this post with new numbers and what can be expected in term of new cases and new clusters.

January 20th : South Korea's first confirmed case.
.
.
.
February 17th : 31 cases in total.
February 18th : Daegu church 1st case.
February 19th : 15 new cases (Daegu church cluster established), 62 total cases in SK.
February 20th : 49 new cases, 111 total cases.
February 21st : 98 new cases, 209 total cases.
February 22nd : 229 new cases, 438 total cases.
February 23nd : in progress.


Additional clusters (1-2) are expected to pop-up in South Korea in the next 48 hours, along with new cases from established Daegu cluster, albeit less than previous days.
Next cluster will probably be in Seoul area and/or city of Cheongdo, just south of Daegu.


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January 30th : Italy's first confirmed case.
.
.
.
February 19th : 4 cases in total.
February 20th : Lombardy cluster, 2 cases.
February 21st : 17 new cases (Lombardy cluster established), 23 total cases.
February 22nd : 56 new cases, 78 total cases.
February 23rd : in progress.




Additional clusters (1-2) are expected to pop-up in Italy in the next 72 hours, along with new cases from Lombardy cluster.
Next cluster will probably be in Venice area.


--------------------------------------------------------

Expecting clusters in the next 72 hours in other countries.
Expecting a cluster in Japan in the next 48-72 hours.

 Quoting: deplorable recollector


AFTER THIS IS IT HONG KONG AND SINGAPORE?..
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Re: WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month
South Korea and Italy CV-19 timelines.

I will update this post with new numbers and what can be expected in term of new cases and new clusters.

January 20th : South Korea's first confirmed case.
.
.
.
February 17th : 31 cases in total.
February 18th : Daegu church 1st case.
February 19th : 15 new cases (Daegu church cluster established), 62 total cases in SK.
February 20th : 49 new cases, 111 total cases.
February 21st : 98 new cases, 209 total cases.
February 22nd : 229 new cases, 438 total cases.
February 23nd : in progress.


Additional clusters (1-2) are expected to pop-up in South Korea in the next 48 hours, along with new cases from established Daegu cluster, albeit less than previous days.
Next cluster will probably be in Seoul area and/or city of Cheongdo, just south of Daegu.


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January 30th : Italy's first confirmed case.
.
.
.
February 19th : 4 cases in total.
February 20th : Lombardy cluster, 2 cases.
February 21st : 17 new cases (Lombardy cluster established), 23 total cases.
February 22nd : 56 new cases, 78 total cases.
February 23rd : in progress.




Additional clusters (1-2) are expected to pop-up in Italy in the next 72 hours, along with new cases from Lombardy cluster.
Next cluster will probably be in Venice area.


--------------------------------------------------------

Expecting clusters in the next 72 hours in other countries.
Expecting a cluster in Japan in the next 48-72 hours.

 Quoting: deplorable recollector


AFTER THIS IS IT HONG KONG AND SINGAPORE?..
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Neither.

It will be another European country. Which one, I do not know.
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All eyes on Germany
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:concoronacase:

As of Feb. 21, COVID-19 cases were confirmed in China, Thailand, Taiwan, Japan, Singapore, South Korea, Vietnam, the United States, France, Australia, Malaysia, Nepal, Germany, Sri Lanka, Cambodia, Canada, United Arab Emirates, Finland, India, the Philippines, the United Kingdom, Italy, Russia, Sweden, Spain, Belgium, Egypt and Israel.

[link to www.nbcnews.com (secure)]
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Meanwhile in Australia, the government has decided to ease restriction on Chinese students returning to school. How dumb is that!!!!
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Add Lebanon to that list.
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All eyes on Germany
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Yeah, it's the country I expect to have the next cluster.


However, I am betting that the German gov. will do everything it can to hide it. There is no difference between Trump, Xi, Abe and Merkel. All 4 of them are the ones who will do everything to hide the truth as long as possible...because the economic collapse, as weird as it sounds, will be felt the worst in the powerhouses that are the U.S., China, Germany and Japan.

The above 4 leaders MUST keep the panic at bay as long as possible, because panic is worse then the virus, at this point in time.

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VERY IMPORTANT UPDATE :

February 15th, 16:30 GMT
A NEW, ADJUSTED MODEL IS NOW POSTED.
THE FORMED MODEL was deleted.


Important notes :

1.Testing kits are not reliable
2.African countries, India, South and Central America countries, Eastern Europe countries, Pakistan, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Cambodia, other SE Asian countries, all former Soviet republics, most Middle East either don't have testing kits, laboratories or simply are unable/unwilling to detect/confirm the COVID19 cases.
About 70% of the population outside China belong to the above countries - cca. 4.4 billion people, labeled as Category B countries.
3.Western Europe, Japan, the U.S., South Korea, Australia, New Zeeland, Singapore are most likely not confirming COVID19 cases to postpone the panic and prop the markets.
About 30% of the population outside China belong to the above countries - cca. 1.9 billion people, labeled as Category A countries.
4.Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau are considered as a part of the countries and cities outside China.

5.Confirmed cases are still announced the day after the testing is done (24hr lag).

The model is based on a number of 2,000-2,500 infected people outside China, on January 28th, with an infection rate that is doubling every 2.5 days.

Los Alamos Labs study, peer reviewed, acknowledges an infection rate doubling every 2.4 days..

[link to arxiv.org (secure)]

The novel coronavirus (2019‐nCoV) is a recently emerged human pathogen that has spread
widely since January 2020. Initially, the basic reproductive number, R0, was estimated to be 2.2
to 2.7.
(from the study).

The previous model was based on an R0 of 2.4-2.6, with a 70-80% contagion chance, which resulted in an infection rate that was doubling every 22 hrs.. I was using the data that was known at that point.

World population outside China, with their respective share of infected cases (higher for India and Africa) :
India : 1,400,000,000 - (22,29%) - infected share: 27%
Africa : 1,216,000,000 - (19.35%) - infected share: 23%
North America : 368,000,000 - 5,85% : infected share: 5%
Central America + South America : 608,000,000 - 9.68% - infected share: 9%
Europe : 747,000,000 - 11.90% - infected share: 9%
Asia (minus China and India) : 1,900,000 - 30.25% - infected share: 27%


January(infected people):
28th : 2,000-2,500

29th : 3,200-4,000

30th : 4,400-5,500

31st : 5,600-7,000

February(infected people):
1st : 6,800-8,500

2nd : 8,000-10,000

3rd : 12,800-16,000

4th : 17,600-22,000
Presenting symptoms : 1,000-1,250
Serious/critical cases (18%): 202.

5th : 22,400-28,000
Presenting symptoms : 1,600-2,000

6th : 27,200-34,000 (275 confirmed, 20 on Diamond Princess)
Presenting symptoms : 2,200-2,750

7th : 32,000-40,000 (327 confirmed, 61 on Diamond Princess)
Presenting symptoms : 2,800-3,500
Serious/critical cases (18%): 567.

8th : 51,200-64,000 (354 confirmed, 64 on Diamond Princess)
Presenting symptoms : 3,400-4,250

9th : 70,400-88,000 (379 confirmed, 70 on Diamond Princess)
Presenting symptoms : 4,000-5,000

10th : 89,600-112,000 (461 confirmed, 135 on Diamond Princess)
Presenting symptoms : 6,400-8,000
Serious/critical cases (18%): 1,296.

11th : 108,800-136,000 (517 confirmed, 174 on Diamond Princess)
Presenting symptoms : 8,800-11,000 (+3,485 added from the staggered numbers from previous 7 days), for a median number of 13,355 for this day.
Serious/critical cases (18%): 2,403.

12th : 128,000-160,000 (523 confirmed, 174 on Diamond Princess)
Presenting symptoms : 11,200-14,000

13th : 204,800-256,000 (586 confirmed, 218 on Diamond Princess)
Presenting symptoms : 13,600-17,000
Serious/critical cases (18%): 2,754.

14th : 281,600-352,000 (608 confirmed, 218 on Diamond Princess)
Presenting symptoms : 16,000-20,000

15th : 358,400-448,000 (697 confirmed, 285 on Diamond Princess)
Presenting symptoms : 26,100-32,000

16th : 435,200-544,000 (781 confirmed, 355 on Diamond Princess)
Presenting symptoms : 35,200-44,000
Serious/critical cases (18%): 7,128.

17th : 512,000-640,000(896 confirmed, 454 on Diamond Princess)
Presenting symptoms : 44,800-56,000

18th : 819,000-1,024,000(999 confirmed, 542 on Diamond Princess)
Presenting symptoms : 54,400-68,000 (+20,048 added from the staggered numbers from previous 7 days), for a median number of 81,248 for this day.
Serious/critical cases (18%): 14,624.

19th : 1,126,000-1,408,000(1,116 confirmed, 621 on Diamond Princess)
Presenting symptoms : 64,000-80,000

20th : 1,433,000-1,792,000(1,198 confirmed, 634 on Diamond Princess)
Presenting symptoms : 102,400-128,000

21st : 1,740,000-2,176,000(1,379 confirmed, 634 on Diamond Princess)
Presenting symptoms : 140,800-176,000
N.America share (5%) : 87,000-108,000 infected
Presenting symptoms : 7,040-8,800

Europe share (9%) : 156,000-195,000 infected
Presenting symptoms : 12,672-15,840


22nd : 2,048,000-2,560,000(1,695 confirmed, 634 on Diamond Princess)
Presenting symptoms : 179,200-224,000
Serious/critical cases (18%): 36,288.
N.America share (5%) : 102,400-128,000 infected
Presenting symptoms :8,960-11,200

Europe share (9%) : 184,000-230,000 infected
Presenting symptoms : 16,120-20,160


23rd : 3,277,000-4,096,000
Presenting symptoms : 217,600-272,000
N.America share (5%) : 163,850-204,800 infected
Presenting symptoms : 10,880-13,600

Europe share (9%) : 294,930-368,640 infected
Presenting symptoms : 19,500-24,500


24th : 4,506,000-5,632,000
Presenting symptoms : 256,000-320,000 (+128,953 added from the staggered numbers from previous 7 days), for a median number of 421,453 for this day.
Serious/critical cases (18%): 75,861.
N.America share (5%) : 225,300-281,600 infected
Presenting symptoms : 12,800-16,000

Europe share (9%) : 405,000-506,000 infected
Presenting symptoms : 23,000-28,800

25th : 5,735,000-7,168,000
Presenting symptoms : 409,500-512,000


26th : 6,964,000-8,704,000
Presenting symptoms : 563,000-704,000
Serious/critical cases (18%): 114,030



27th : 8,192,000-10,240,000
Presenting symptoms : 716,500-896,000
N.America share (5%) : 409,600-512,000 infected
Presenting symptoms : 35,800-44,800

Europe share (9%) : 737,000-921,000 infected
Presenting symptoms : 64,500-80,600


28th : 13,107,000-16,384,000
Presenting symptoms : 870,000-1,088,000


29th : 18,022,000-22,528,000
Presenting symptoms :1,024,000-1,280,000
Serious/critical cases (18%): 207,360.


March(infected people):
1st : 22,937,000-28,672,000
Presenting symptoms : 1,638,500-2,048,000
N.America share (5%) : 1,146,800-1,433,600 infected
Presenting symptoms : 81,925-102,000

Europe share (9%) : 2,064,000-2,580,000 infected
Presenting symptoms : 147,400-184,300


2nd : 27,852,000-34,816,000
Presenting symptoms : 2,253,000-2,816,000 (+610,807 added from the staggered numbers from previous 7 days), for a median number of 3,145,307 for this day.
Serious/critical cases (18%): 566,165.


3rd : 32,768,000-40,960,000
Presenting symptoms : 2,867,500-3,584,000
N.America share (5%) : 1,638,400-2,048,000 infected
Presenting symptoms : 143,300-179,000

Europe share (9%) : 2,949,000-3,686,000 infected
Presenting symptoms : 258,000-322,000


In the last days, most officially confirmed cases were detected roughly 7 days after symptoms appeared. There were some exceptions, with 15-21 days incubation period, but most were in the 7 day range.

However, a significant number of infected people will be asymptomatic for 12-14 or more days, which is roughly 40-50% of the infected people, at a given date. I will round it up to 50%.

The remaining 50% will be staggered for an additional 7 days, but in order to avoid adding a ton of numbers for every day, I will add them up every 7 days.

Applying this to my model, the number of symptomatic people on February 5th is about half the number of infected people on January 28th.

I will add the serious and critical cases (18% of the total) every 3-4 days and the days with the added staggered cases.

The current model points to an overload of the healthcare systems in Europe and the U.S. to start around mid-March, with Hong Kong, Singapore and Japan to start feeling the pressure at the end of February.

The former model was pointing that the healthcare systems would start feeling the pressure around mid-February for Hong Kong, Singapore and Japan, with Europe and U.S. by early March.

The former model was off by about 2 weeks.


The new model will have its critical period between March 2nd-March 8th., when it will be adjusted again, if new information regarding the R0, contagion chance and other related information come to light.

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OP have you got a list of anyone who will contact in to let you know whats goign on, it is going walking dead, can some methods for GLP folks be worked out, to work to?

Personally , I think it is going to go mad max locally
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South Korea and Italy CV-19 timelines.

I will update this post with new numbers and what can be expected in term of new cases and new clusters.

January 20th : South Korea's first confirmed case.
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February 17th : 31 cases in total.
February 18th : Daegu church 1st case.
February 19th : 15 new cases (Daegu church cluster established), 62 total cases in SK.
February 20th : 49 new cases, 111 total cases.
February 21st : 98 new cases, 209 total cases.
February 22nd : 229 new cases, 438 total cases.
February 23nd : in progress.


Additional clusters (1-2) are expected to pop-up in South Korea in the next 48 hours, along with new cases from established Daegu cluster, albeit less than previous days.
Next cluster will probably be in Seoul area and/or city of Cheongdo, just south of Daegu.


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January 30th : Italy's first confirmed case.
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February 19th : 4 cases in total.
February 20th : Lombardy cluster, 2 cases.
February 21st : 17 new cases (Lombardy cluster established), 23 total cases.
February 22nd : 56 new cases, 78 total cases.
February 23rd : in progress.




Additional clusters (1-2) are expected to pop-up in Italy in the next 72 hours, along with new cases from Lombardy cluster.
Next cluster will probably be in Venice area.


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Expecting clusters in the next 72 hours in other countries.
Expecting a cluster in Japan in the next 48-72 hours.

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AFTER THIS IS IT HONG KONG AND SINGAPORE?..
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Neither.

It will be another European country. Which one, I do not know.
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..OR..AFRICUH POP UP?!
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8 more deaths outside China today, Diamond Princess 1, South Korea 4, Italy 1, Iran 2.

I want to see how far the deniers are going to say this is a nothing burger.
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Yeah, it's the country I expect to have the next cluster.


However, I am betting that the German gov. will do everything it can to hide it. There is no difference between Trump, Xi, Abe and Merkel. All 4 of them are the ones who will do everything to hide the truth as long as possible...because the economic collapse, as weird as it sounds, will be felt the worst in the powerhouses that are the U.S., China, Germany and Japan.

The above 4 leaders MUST keep the panic at bay as long as possible, because panic is worse then the virus, at this point in time.
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Im concerned about us market shutting down if EU panics. Asian markets already suffering, EU would be a huge nail in the coffin.

If we get a market shutdown before this virus explodes in US it would be bad.
Or as it starts to heat up here and then the markets shut down because of EU it will greatly incite panic. That would pose a huge increase in infection possibilities.
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Germany already had cases in late January. It was contained because was within a corporate bussiness environment. It was published in the NEJM, but we learnt from that the highly contagious nature of the virus.

This is the timeline of contagion of the 5 patients involved in this contained branch:

NEMJ

Full article here:

“ Transmission of 2019-nCoV Infection from an Asymptomatic Contact in Germany.” Published Jan 30th 2020



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Germany so far has been able to contain the cases beyond the ones caused by the minor contagion reported in the NEJM paper. Anyway, with the long incubation period, we won’t know for sure. [link to berlinspectator.com (secure)]
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Yeah, it's the country I expect to have the next cluster.


However, I am betting that the German gov. will do everything it can to hide it. There is no difference between Trump, Xi, Abe and Merkel. All 4 of them are the ones who will do everything to hide the truth as long as possible...because the economic collapse, as weird as it sounds, will be felt the worst in the powerhouses that are the U.S., China, Germany and Japan.

The above 4 leaders MUST keep the panic at bay as long as possible, because panic is worse then the virus, at this point in time.
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Oh please let it be Germany, especially the big million people Cluster of the Ruhr Area + Dusseldorf and Cologne. Million people driving by train and car every day from city to city because of work. It‘s the most perfect area for the Virus to spread.

I am living in the heart of the Ruhr Area and will keep you updated here as far as I get something interesting to know. As you stated, the government here will do whatever they can to lie about numbers but I will also try to do my best to contact all the people I know working in hospitals to get inside intel.

Tbh, I don‘t give shit about Corona-chan. She‘s welcome, imho! The world needs a cleansing, if that means my life is over, than it shall be.
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READ THE DAMN THREAD!!!

Losers like you keep asking the same stupid questions about mortality rates and OP has REPEATEDLY stated his model is designed to project INFECTION RATES ONLY. He has REPEATEDLY stated his model does NOT address mortality rates.

READ BEFORE YOU POST!!!

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Infection rates mean jack shit to us. Can we get it? Sure. Just like any common cold. But will it kill us is what we care about?
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Infection rate is what it MATTERS with this virus. Rest is poetry.

Why?


Because 18% of the cases need ICU. No ICU, 18% dead. The more are infected, the MORE are those that need ICU.

That is step one : 18% DEAD because no ICU beds (which means ventilators, computers AND MEDICS.

Step 2 : due to lack of ICU beds...EVERYONE that needs ICU beds will die : car accidents, heart failures, kidney patients, etc. etc.

Add 10-12% more percent.


So, in just 2 fucking steps, the mortality rate is 30% JUST BECAUSE there are no fucking beds and medics available.


Step 3 : China is offline. 80% of pharmaceuticals and/or ingredients are produced in China.
From diabetics to recovering patients, ALL NEED medication to stay fucking alive.

Add 15% more.


And I am not even TALKING ABOUT THE FUCKING VIRUS DEATH RATE, just SECONDARY DEATHS !


Now you understand WHY the fucking infection rate matters and the rest is fucking poetry?

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Perhaps Federal reserve and other central banks instead of giving free money to the already super wealthy could let all these billions go where they actually help our socities.
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Why can’t you realize that those bankers are the ones wanting humanity cut down to a maintainable 500m??!!
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From one of my friends whos 6 yr old kid whos in the hospital. San diego

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Updates on Chelsey we are still here at the hospital, she has full blown asthma and a cough that isn’t helping with some bad wheezing 😔 She can’t have visitors since she’s in respiratory and it’s important to keep her away from people since it’s high flu season still sorry for those that wanted to come.
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This Makes me very nervous. Because they initially went there because she felt ill and they realized her oxygen levels were low. NO SYMPTOMS. Now over night this

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