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User ID: 77849624 United States 01/28/2020 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Call the President demand all chinese fights be stopped PHONE NUMBERS Comments: 202-456-1111 Switchboard: 202-456-1414 Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
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User ID: 77849624 United States 01/28/2020 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you and I both know the RO number of 2.6 is bullpucky more like 9.5 Last Edited by Slowly awakening on 01/28/2020 12:57 PM Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
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(OP) User ID: 73110508 United Kingdom 01/28/2020 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For China and South East Asia it is. By my model is adjusted for US, EU, Japan, SK, Australia, NZ and other developed countries to 2.2 in the incipient phase to 2.6 in the mid stage of the pandemic. For South East Asia, the R0 is 2.6 in the incipient stage, and 3 in the mid stage of the pandemic. After that, it won't matter how big the R0 is, the society will be collapsed anyway, and nobody will give a fuck about it. |
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User ID: 77849624 United States 01/28/2020 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For China and South East Asia it is. By my model is adjusted for US, EU, Japan, SK, Australia, NZ and other developed countries to 2.2 in the incipient phase to 2.6 in the mid stage of the pandemic. For South East Asia, the R0 is 2.6 in the incipient stage, and 3 in the mid stage of the pandemic. After that, it won't matter how big the R0 is, the society will be collapsed anyway, and nobody will give a fuck about it. true on the it wont matter part. we are screwed I can feel it in my bones. Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
deplorable recollector
(OP) User ID: 73110508 United Kingdom 01/28/2020 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For China and South East Asia it is. By my model is adjusted for US, EU, Japan, SK, Australia, NZ and other developed countries to 2.2 in the incipient phase to 2.6 in the mid stage of the pandemic. For South East Asia, the R0 is 2.6 in the incipient stage, and 3 in the mid stage of the pandemic. After that, it won't matter how big the R0 is, the society will be collapsed anyway, and nobody will give a fuck about it. true on the it wont matter part. we are screwed I can feel it in my bones. Oh yeah, we are. Big time. This is why I bolded what it must be done to limit and eventually stop the pandemic...but we all know that they won't do it, until way too fucking late. I also didn't bothered on death rate, because it is irrelevant. The social collapse will kill many more people than the virus will. Last Edited by Recollector on 01/28/2020 01:12 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72609499 United States 01/28/2020 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the beginning, I want to specify that my model is only for the infection rate. Not death rate, and not confirmed cases by the authorities and governments. It is a mathematical model, based on 4 separate patterns : Quoting: deplorable recollector -Chinese official number -The commonly accepted R0 of 2.6 among many epidemiologists -The Spanish Flu R0 of 1.8 -The weaponized virus R0 > 5 Starting from January 16th, all the patterns, except the one based on an Ro of 2.6 failed to apply. The R0 = 2.6 pattern still stands, for China. However, considering that China is still allowing free travel among all provinces except Tibet (least populated and most isolated one) and Hubei (the epicenter of the pandemic), the R0 will jump over 3 by Sunday, February 2nd. For the developed countries, with better hygiene, long history of flu (herd immunization) and high quality medical system, the R0 was skewed (for the time being) to 2.2. If the developed countries will not stop ALL travel by Sunday, Feb. 2nd, the R0 will jump to 2.6. Everyone can do their own math, applying an R0 = 2.2, for the develop countries, 2.4 for Asian countries and 2.6 for China, while adjusting the index for infection spread chance to 0.7-0.8. As an example 10 x 2.2 x 0.7, for developed countries and 10 x 2.2 x 0.8 for SE Asia, South and Central America and Africa. For those that don't want to do that, here is the infection spread, worldwide (except China mainland), starting with today, January 28th, with all the numbers adjusted : January 28th 00:00 GMT : Between 3,000 and 4,000 infected people, in different stages of incubation (1 to 14 days). Presenting symptoms : 37-38 cases. January 29th, 00:00 GMT : Between 5,200 and 7,000 infected people, in different stages of incubation (1 to 14 days). Presenting symptoms : 67-69 cases. January 30th, 00:00 GMT : Between 8,000 and 12,000 infected people, in different stages of incubation (1 to 14 days). Presenting symptoms : 103-106 cases. January 31st, 00:00 GMT : 12,300 - 20,100 infected people, in different stages of incubation (1 to 14 days). Presenting symptoms : 158 - 168 cases. February 1st, 00:00 GMT : 18,900 - 30,900 infected people, in different stages of incubation (1 to 14 days). Presenting symptoms : 243 - 258 February 2nd, 00:00 GMT : 29,100 - 47,500 infected people, in different stages of incubation (1 to 14 days). Presenting symptoms : 374 - 397. If by this date, the traveling between all countries is not stopped, and borders are not closed, the epidemic will accelerate.These are the numbers : February 3rd, 00:00 GMT : 48,000 - 78,000 infected people, in different stages of incubation (1 to 14 days). Presenting symptoms : 617 - 655 February 4th, 00:00 GMT : 79,200 - 128,700 infected people, in different stages of incubation (1 to 14 days). Presenting symptoms : 1,018 - 1,080. If by this date, the traveling between all countries is not stopped, and borders are not closed, the epidemic will accelerate.These are the numbers : February 5th, 00:00 GMT : 139,000 - 226,500 infected people, in different stages of incubation (1 to 14 days). Presenting symptoms : 1,790 - 1,900. From this date on, the pandemic no longer can be contained, without full quarantine, at least for all major cities across the world. This will come with total economic collapse and the panic that will be widespread. The huge difference between the number of infected in my model, is because most populated countries are also underdeveloped, and the virus will affect much more people in India and SE Asia. If full or at last partial quarantine is not implemented by February 5th, in major cities across the world, the pandemic will spread as follow (adjusted for higher R0 and higher index for infection spread chance), with the mention that the numbers will be the median ones : Feb 6th :345,000 infected with 3,600 presenting symptoms Feb 7th :690,000 infected with 7,500 presenting symptoms Feb 8th : 1,435,000 / 15,600 Feb 9th : 2,980,000 / 27,456 Feb 10th: 6,240,000 / 57,100 Feb 11th: 12,979,000 / 118,100 Feb 12th: 27,990,000 / 245,600 Feb 13th: 58,220,000 / 509,600 Feb 14th:121,970,000 /1,060,000 Feb 15th:253,697,000 /2,204,800 From February 16th, multiple health systems across the world will collapse.Hospitals will be overcrowded and unable to test and treat most of the patients.The social fabric will completely collapse, and the governments, if they delayed the quarantines, will have no other choice by to lock-down hundreds of millions of people in major and large to medium cities, with hundreds of million more will self-isolate in smaller cities, towns and villages. There might be slight variations in my model, if some countries implement some travel restrictions here and there, some quarantines here and there...but anything except total quarantine is not going to work, but only delay the infection by mere DAYS. I am going to end with what matters the most, for my model to HOPEFULLY fail : FULL INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL MUST STOP BY FEB.3RD. FULL LOCAL TRAVEL IN AFFECTED COUNTRIES MUST BE STOP BY FEB. 5TH. If the above measures are not taking places, the pandemic will be catastrophic. well done sir! well done ! |
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User ID: 74637769 United States 01/28/2020 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll green pin it. Thanks OP. I tried. Too many right now. Last Edited by Gray Man on 01/28/2020 01:26 PM My friends call me Bob. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77811278 Canada 01/28/2020 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is assuming a highly doubtful starting point: January 28th 00:00 GMT : Between 3,000 and 4,000 infected people, in different stages of incubation (1 to 14 days). Presenting symptoms : 37-38 cases.) There is a lot of increasingly validated information out there demonstrating that there are 45,000 to as many as 140,000 infected people as of today. All due to intentional under-reporting or due to inability to diagnose actual cases (lack of supplies, staff, IT...). Considering this, your scenario could be way too conservative. |
deplorable recollector
(OP) User ID: 73110508 United Kingdom 01/28/2020 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For the curious ones that are anxiously waiting the new numbers from China : The total number of confirmed cases that will be reported next by the Chinese government will be 8,099, give it a 1-2% error. The REAL and total number of the infected people (asymptomatic and confirmed) in China is roughly 700,000 people, most of them in the 1-2 day incubation period. Last Edited by Recollector on 01/28/2020 01:27 PM |
deplorable recollector
(OP) User ID: 73110508 United Kingdom 01/28/2020 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is assuming a highly doubtful starting point: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77811278 January 28th 00:00 GMT : Between 3,000 and 4,000 infected people, in different stages of incubation (1 to 14 days). Presenting symptoms : 37-38 cases.) There is a lot of increasingly validated information out there demonstrating that there are 45,000 to as many as 140,000 infected people as of today. All due to intentional under-reporting or due to inability to diagnose actual cases (lack of supplies, staff, IT...). Considering this, your scenario could be way too conservative. I think you missed the part where my model is not for China. The information you are talking about is for China. My model for China, which is for fun only, since they are fucked anyway, is 690,000 infected people. Last Edited by Recollector on 01/28/2020 01:31 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77811278 Canada 01/28/2020 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is assuming a highly doubtful starting point: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77811278 January 28th 00:00 GMT : Between 3,000 and 4,000 infected people, in different stages of incubation (1 to 14 days). Presenting symptoms : 37-38 cases.) There is a lot of increasingly validated information out there demonstrating that there are 45,000 to as many as 140,000 infected people as of today. All due to intentional under-reporting or due to inability to diagnose actual cases (lack of supplies, staff, IT...). Considering this, your scenario could be way too conservative. I think you missed the part where my model is not for China. The information you are talking about is for China. I DID miss that, thanks. What's the math INSIDE China? |
deplorable recollector
(OP) User ID: 73110508 United Kingdom 01/28/2020 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is assuming a highly doubtful starting point: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77811278 January 28th 00:00 GMT : Between 3,000 and 4,000 infected people, in different stages of incubation (1 to 14 days). Presenting symptoms : 37-38 cases.) There is a lot of increasingly validated information out there demonstrating that there are 45,000 to as many as 140,000 infected people as of today. All due to intentional under-reporting or due to inability to diagnose actual cases (lack of supplies, staff, IT...). Considering this, your scenario could be way too conservative. I think you missed the part where my model is not for China. The information you are talking about is for China. I DID miss that, thanks. What's the math INSIDE China? 690,000 infected. The Chinese should report 8,099 confirmed cases today, give it a 1-2% error. So, a jump from 4,500 yesterday to 8,100 today. Last Edited by Recollector on 01/28/2020 01:35 PM |
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(OP) User ID: 73110508 United Kingdom 01/28/2020 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you. I have been promised a karma pin on this, but I guess it will come out later on today. Last Edited by Recollector on 01/28/2020 02:05 PM |
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