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WW3 Europe front. UPDATE page 532 -February 2024, the decisive month

 
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How is it that you think the virus is much older in China than it is in the rest of the world op..
Surely upon the first few days infected chinese were traveling around the world asymptomatically spreading the virus... Its hard to believe it took 3 weeks? to get started in other countries...
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Shit

they say in Spanish: this is the way houses that were sealed are now...

everyone looks sleeping or dead...

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The positions they are in, and none are moving, only indicate permanent sleep.
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Shit

they say in Spanish: this is the way houses that were sealed are now...

everyone looks sleeping or dead...

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The positions they are in, and none are moving, only indicate permanent sleep.
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You nailed it. 100% Permenant sleep.

I mean, if the screaming and the weird position they're in aren't dead giveaway clues that this isn't just normal sleep, whoever thinks this can be just "sleep" is obviously clueless.

Unless you believe all these videos are all staged and that there are no government conspiracies, aside from the conspiracies these poor people are brewing up with their fake staged videos to alarm the world.

If that's the case, you're gullible AF as well and deserve to get the virus.

Which you will.
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The OP's model is fundamentally flawed because does not factor in how a 3rd World communist country like China will deal with such a virus compared to how democratic countries will. China's priority is protecting the state apparatus, not the health or well being of any individual citizens. Don't make this political, you say? How can it not be. We are witnessing the human toll of communism for once instead of just the economic toll. COMMUNISM KILLS!!!! Its not just about $$$ or authoritarian laws against doing this or that. Its the stark difference in the fundamental outlook on the value of a human life. This virus may well devastate mainland China but its effects will be much different elsewhere.

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I lived 18 years under communist Romania (of which 2 were in a military school), which was the ruthless commie regime after NK, China and Russia.

I know WELL what communism means.


But wake up, please. We are in 2020. Except NK, all other countries on the planet are using the healthcare system as A BUSINESS.
Hospitals have to have an occupancy rate of 85%+ to be deemed "profitable", no matter if it's China, the U.S., E.U. or whatever country you want.


And I repeat, AGAIN, for idiots like you : my model doesn't give a flying fuck on death rate, it only cares about INFECTION RATE and attempts to PREDICT when the quarantines will start and when the healthcare systems will COLLAPSE. And it's GAME OVER for the world.

Also, my model doesn't care about China. China is DONE. There are more than 8 million infected and over 180,000 dead in China. In 7 more days, they will have over 50 million infected and 700,000 dead. China is a done deal, I don't care what the commies are saying or doing. They might as well let half the China die now, and TRY to save 70% of the half that is still breathing.
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I didn't mention anything about "death rate". I said that China's state priority was protecting the state, not the health of individual citizens. The death rate there is simply a byproduct of that.

Are you seriously going to stand behind your above-stated figures that China has over 8 million infected right now and 180k dead? Where did you get those numbers? What verification? Are you feeding your data into the same modeling programs that tell us that NYC will be underwater in 25 years?
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You're stupid.

Keep believing the "official" sources.


A country of 1.4 billion is locking down 90 million people in 25 cities (this is the "official" number now) for 20,000 cases and 425 dead?


Idiot, grow a fucking brain.

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I lived 18 years under communist Romania (of which 2 were in a military school), which was the ruthless commie regime after NK, China and Russia.

I know WELL what communism means.


But wake up, please. We are in 2020. Except NK, all other countries on the planet are using the healthcare system as A BUSINESS.
Hospitals have to have an occupancy rate of 85%+ to be deemed "profitable", no matter if it's China, the U.S., E.U. or whatever country you want.


And I repeat, AGAIN, for idiots like you : my model doesn't give a flying fuck on death rate, it only cares about INFECTION RATE and attempts to PREDICT when the quarantines will start and when the healthcare systems will COLLAPSE. And it's GAME OVER for the world.

Also, my model doesn't care about China. China is DONE. There are more than 8 million infected and over 180,000 dead in China. In 7 more days, they will have over 50 million infected and 700,000 dead. China is a done deal, I don't care what the commies are saying or doing. They might as well let half the China die now, and TRY to save 70% of the half that is still breathing.
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I didn't mention anything about "death rate". I said that China's state priority was protecting the state, not the health of individual citizens. The death rate there is simply a byproduct of that.

Are you seriously going to stand behind your above-stated figures that China has over 8 million infected right now and 180k dead? Where did you get those numbers? What verification? Are you feeding your data into the same modeling programs that tell us that NYC will be underwater in 25 years?
norespect
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You're stupid.

Keep believing the "official" sources.


A country of 1.4 billion is locking down 90 million people in 25 cities (this is the "official" number now) for 20,000 cases and 425 dead?


Idiot, grow a fucking brain.
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Let me remind you of the first sentence of your OP:

From the beginning, I want to specify that my model is only for the infection rate. Not death rate, and not confirmed cases by the authorities and governments. It is a mathematical model, based on 4 separate patterns :

-Chinese official number




So you, as you originally stated, you began your model with the official Chinese estimate as a component but now that your model is beclowningly inaccurate you say not to trust "official sources". I'll ask you again. Are you stating as a point of fact that at this very moment over 8 million people are infected and 180,000 have died? You just posted that. Do you stand by those numbers? If official Chinese sources were never to be trusted, why did you include them as a component of your model?

norespect
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I said that I REMOVED the Chinese PATTERN, and 2 more, out of the 4 I started with.

In other words, you are so dumb, that you can't even read.

I already replied too many times to your stupidity. But that is over now.

Die happy, moron, you'll be among the first to bite the dust.

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COUNT DOWN TIL THE NEW NUMBERS!?!?!
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To the previous poster AC - Great Britain,

We know that Wu Flu existed on 10/31/19 Halloween. 1st week of Nov 8 doctors were arrested for alerting social media.
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Not true. They aren't able to test anymore than they are with manpower they have.

If millions are infected there, and that is likely the case, than there could easily be 200,000 dead at home and they would not have to release it. China is not like America, takes them alot of effort to upload onto the internet going through the communist filters. And if it as bad there as rumor is saying, and with 50 million quarantined, I'd say it is....these people have far bigger concerns than hacking the Chinese internet blockers.

In my opinion, after reading everything and taking stock....China is in complete collapse. They won't be able to hide it forever, another week or two maybe.
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Not true. They aren't able to test anymore than they are with manpower they have.

If millions are infected there, and that is likely the case, than there could easily be 200,000 dead at home and they would not have to release it. China is not like America, takes them alot of effort to upload onto the internet going through the communist filters. And if it as bad there as rumor is saying, and with 50 million quarantined, I'd say it is....these people have far bigger concerns than hacking the Chinese internet blockers.

In my opinion, after reading everything and taking stock....China is in complete collapse. They won't be able to hide it forever, another week or two maybe.
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Currently, 25 cities in China, with a total of 90 million people are in lock-down.
69% of China's manufacture production is frozen.


Nobody, with a working brain, would ever think that they would do such drastic measures and lose trillions of $$$ already....for 20,500 infected and 425 dead, in a country of 1.4 BILLION people.

The number of infected people have to be at least 1,000 times more than what they reported, and the number of dead 100 times more.

25,000,000 infected and 42,500 dead are more likely the REAL NUMBERS, numbers that are big enough for the CCP to lock-down so many cities.

Last one that was locked-down today, is Nanjing, an 8.3 million people city...and they reported 35 (THIRTY-FIVE) cases.


I am sorry, but nobody will ever lock-down an 8+ million city for 35 cases...or 350...or even 3,500.

If it's tens of thousands, yes.


Which means that the number of infected in China is roughly 1,000 times bigger than what they report...or the death rate is massive (25%+)...or a combination of both.


China is done.

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Dear OP.

Please stop deleting posts and IP banning people from your thread just because they disagree with your figures.

Your claim of 180,000 dead in China is nothing but baseless wild speculation, and pointing this out to you does not constitute trolling or unreasonable argument.

Grow a thicker skin and learn to handle disagreement like an adult.
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The Chinese numbers are also speculation...CCP speculation.


Let me ask you something, smart-ass.


If there is outbreak in a city of 8 million people with you as the Mayor...what number of infected people is the one that will make you decide to lock down such city?


Please answer honestly to this question, and you won't be banned anymore.

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Dear OP.

Please stop deleting posts and IP banning people from your thread just because they disagree with your figures.

Your claim of 180,000 dead in China is nothing but baseless wild speculation, and pointing this out to you does not constitute trolling or unreasonable argument.

Grow a thicker skin and learn to handle disagreement like an adult.
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The Chinese numbers are also speculation...CCP speculation.


Let me ask you something, smart-ass.


If there is outbreak in a city of 8 million people with you as the Mayor...what number of infected people is the one that will make you decide to lock down such city?


Please answer honestly to this question, and you won't be banned anymore.
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Do you stand by your statement that 8 million are infected and 180,000 have died?
norespect
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Avoiding the answer proves that I am right.


Feel free to contradict me, by answering my question.


And yes, I am standing behind my numbers. Now, will you answer the question or not?

If you will avoid to answer, again, I will no longer reply to you or anyone else.

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Must be over the target, too many shills infecting the forum.

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Thanks to GLPer LostRabbit.

Thread: Pandemic research paper by the German government from 2012 - IMPORTANT READ

If any mods can pin it, please do so. I rather not green karma pin it.

Please read from page 55.


It is like the German government knew what we are living now...and what we are going to experience in the next months.



This study made it to GLP about 30 min ago. And it was a larger study by the German authorities, for different catastrophic scenarios.

The pandemic scenario starts at page 55, and it is for a supposed SARS-like coronavirus epidemic.


I predicted the outcome (except the death rate, which I consider it irrelevant) when I posted my model, 6 days ago.


Feel free to ignore what my model is showing...but at least read the German study.

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Now, the reason why I said that I will update the model on February 6th, and why I consider Feb. 3rd - Feb.5th as a critical period, it is because I believe that my model is accurate (within 5-10% margin of error, which is a small error in a pandemic model), and there will be almost 2,000 symptomatic cases outside China by Feb. 6th, and the authorities can no longer delay announcing them.


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OP, why do you believe 2,000 cases is the point at which authorities will release true results? Why 2,000?

Couldn't they just keep kicking the can down the road till 3,000 or 4,000 or even beyond?
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Yeah, that seems totally arbitrary. Why is 2,000 the magic number?

I don't think we'll ever be told the real numbers by any country. We'll just never know the truth. That's just how governments work. Duh!
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It's terribly obvious that China's reaction and lockdowns are WAY out of scale from their reported numbers.

If it were me, and I had a city of 8 million, I'd need to have at least 10k dead or in serious danger of dying to lock it down.

It's completely out of control in China. Like trying to fill a missile hole on a sub with bubble gum. What remains to be seen is whether the ACE2 receptors are a factor in virulence and transmissibility of the virus.

Should transmission and strength of the virus decrease in none Asian populations, we will still have significant economic fall out as China is about 17% of the entire world's economy.

So we shall see.

But it is real doom in the making.
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OP is the real science hero we need. Great work.

Ignore all the Gretas saying “how dare you!!”
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It's terribly obvious that China's reaction and lockdowns are WAY out of scale from their reported numbers.

If it were me, and I had a city of 8 million, I'd need to have at least 10k dead or in serious danger of dying to lock it down.

It's completely out of control in China. Like trying to fill a missile hole on a sub with bubble gum. What remains to be seen is whether the ACE2 receptors are a factor in virulence and transmissibility of the virus.

Should transmission and strength of the virus decrease in none Asian populations, we will still have significant economic fall out as China is about 17% of the entire world's economy.

So we shall see.

But it is real doom in the making.
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I agree.

There is either a horrific death rate, or the infection rate is off the roof.

Or a combination of both.


But one thing is crystal clear : no one will ever lock-down Nanjing for 35 cases.

We can speculate on the numbers, but for such a big city, the infected people have to be a significant percentage of the population, at least 1%. Which is 85,000 people. While the death rate similar with SARS, 8% of the infected, so at least 6,800 dead.

If anyone extrapolates from 8.5 million to 90 million there are locked-down in China, keeping the same 1% of the population infected and 8% of the infected dead, the numbers rise to at least 900,000 infected and at least 72,000 dead.


But here is the thing...we are ONLY talking about the locked-down cities. And even if we stick to those cities, the situation is so dire (everyone on lock-down, within their families, hospitals collapsed, not enough healthcare personal), the number of infected people in such condition will rapidly reach 5-7% of the population, which for those 90 million is 4.5-6.3 million people.


And than you have another 1.3 BILLION people with lesser percentages of infected, the further away from the epicenter.


What exactly is the problem of some people to accept that a 1.4 billion people country is millions of infected and hundreds of thousand of dead, from a virus that NOBODY still doesn't know how it spread, with certitude, especially considering the healthcare system collapsing and the ONLY way to stop the epidemic is to lock down cities?

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Dear OP.

Please stop deleting posts and IP banning people from your thread just because they disagree with your figures.

Your claim of 180,000 dead in China is nothing but baseless wild speculation, and pointing this out to you does not constitute trolling or unreasonable argument.

Grow a thicker skin and learn to handle disagreement like an adult.
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The Chinese numbers are also speculation...CCP speculation.


Let me ask you something, smart-ass.


If there is outbreak in a city of 8 million people with you as the Mayor...what number of infected people is the one that will make you decide to lock down such city?


Please answer honestly to this question, and you won't be banned anymore.
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Mate, I'm honestly not attacking you personally. Whilst we can't trust CCP's figures, we should also be wary of over-compensating for their dishonesty by inflating the numbers. If there were 180k dead in Wuhan as you said, I'm certain we'd know about it. Not even CCP would be able to keep that from leaking.

As for your question. I would decide based not just on the total figure of cases but also the speed of the spread. So on Monday it's 1000 cases, and come Sunday it's 10,000 cases, and the docs tell me in another week there'll be 30,000 cases and the hospitals are already straining. At that point I'd be taking serious measures.
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Dear OP.

Please stop deleting posts and IP banning people from your thread just because they disagree with your figures.

Your claim of 180,000 dead in China is nothing but baseless wild speculation, and pointing this out to you does not constitute trolling or unreasonable argument.

Grow a thicker skin and learn to handle disagreement like an adult.
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The Chinese numbers are also speculation...CCP speculation.


Let me ask you something, smart-ass.


If there is outbreak in a city of 8 million people with you as the Mayor...what number of infected people is the one that will make you decide to lock down such city?


Please answer honestly to this question, and you won't be banned anymore.
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Mate, I'm honestly not attacking you personally. Whilst we can't trust CCP's figures, we should also be wary of over-compensating for their dishonesty by inflating the numbers. If there were 180k dead in Wuhan as you said, I'm certain we'd know about it. Not even CCP would be able to keep that from leaking.

As for your question. I would decide based not just on the total figure of cases but also the speed of the spread. So on Monday it's 1000 cases, and come Sunday it's 10,000 cases, and the docs tell me in another week there'll be 30,000 cases and the hospitals are already straining. At that point I'd be taking serious measures.
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Well, you are closely getting to the truth.

Think a bit more, and come up with a solid number that will make you say "all right, this is it, I am locking down the city".

Please do so, and keep in mind that once you reach the decision to lock-down the city, you also HAVE TO QUARANTINE people in their homes, because all your hospitals are full, which will lead to those infected to infect their families, the secondary deaths from other grave ill people to skyrocket, because there are no ICU beds left in the hospitals, panic, etc. etc.


Also, I never said that there are 180,000 dead in Wuhan. I said in China.

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Locking down a city of 8 million is such a huge decision, it's tough to say at what exact point I'd do it. If spread is rapid and morbidity is what is being reported then my instinct is to say I'd lock down at 10,000 cases. But that feels premature, it would be easy for critics to blame me for overreacting. Would I dare fuck up the economy and so on for 10,000 cases? Probably not. I'd probably let it go to 50,000 before I quarantined the place.
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Locking down a city of 8 million is such a huge decision, it's tough to say at what exact point I'd do it. If spread is rapid and morbidity is what is being reported then my instinct is to say I'd lock down at 10,000 cases. But that feels premature, it would be easy for critics to blame me for overreacting. Would I dare fuck up the economy and so on for 10,000 cases? Probably not. I'd probably let it go to 50,000 before I quarantined the place.
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Ok, so 50,000 infected for an 8 million people city to be put on lock-down.

Let's not talk about death rate yet.


Now, there are 90 millions on lock-down cities in China, at this very moment.

If 50,000 for 8 million, this means 562,500 infected for 90 million.


60 millions of the current 90 million, are on lock-down since January 27th. Obviously they have many more infected, with everyone indoors in their homes 24/7, except short trips once every 2 days, for food.


China's official numbers are 24,500 infected. Your personal opinion would be 50,000 infected for a city of 8 million, which means 562,500 for 90 million, and I am not doing the math for the 60 million who were in lock-down for 1 week now, and have 3 times more infected people now (a family of 3 as a medium) compared to the time 0 of the lock-down.

If I do the math for the 60 million, they will have 1,125,000 infected people, and the "fresh" 30 million on lock-down will have 187,000 infected, for a total of 1,313,000 infected people.


So, the final tally would be 1,313,000 infected people in 25 cities that have a total of 90 million people.


But here is the thing...there are 1.3 billion people left, in other cities. I can do the math for them as well, with significantly lower numbers.

Also, we are talking about Chinese Communist Party here...they will probably lock-down a city when the number of infected is much higher than yours...because they CANNOT ADMIT DEFEAT unless they ARE DEFEATED.


But hey, let's stick to 1,313,000 infected only in China, which is probably a low-ball figure, it's more than likely 5-10 times higher in reality, for MANY reasons, one being the rest of 1.3 billion in cities that HAVE infected people but not on lock-down and the CCP waiting until the numbers a scary enough...FOR THEM, before locking-down a city.


Does it still look like 8 million infected and 180k dead, in the entire China (1.4 billion people) are not realistic numbers? Or close to the real ones?

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Gentleman, regarding locking down a large population, one factor you havent talked about is what else would make you lock down a city or region for the reported number of deaths?

I think how those people die. Reading about the seizures and collapsing people would give cause to shut down.

I'm not trying to rationlize or provide cover for the Chinese Gov. Just trying to say if you know there's a creeping death amongst your lands, well lock it down.
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Gentleman, regarding locking down a large population, one factor you havent talked about is what else would make you lock down a city or region for the reported number of deaths?

I think how those people die. Reading about the seizures and collapsing people would give cause to shut down.

I'm not trying to rationlize or provide cover for the Chinese Gov. Just trying to say if you know there's a creeping death amongst your lands, well lock it down.
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Yeah, I am getting there.


But he still have to realize that the number of infected is in high millions, before realizing that the dead are also a big number.
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Ok, so 50,000 infected for an 8 million people city to be put on lock-down.

Let's not talk about death rate yet.


Now, there are 90 millions on lock-down cities in China, at this very moment.

If 50,000 for 8 million, this means 562,500 infected for 90 million.


60 millions of the current 90 million, are on lock-down since January 27th. Obviously they have many more infected, with everyone indoors in their homes 24/7, except short trips once every 2 days, for food.


China's official numbers are 24,500 infected. Your personal opinion would be 50,000 infected for a city of 8 million, which means 562,500 for 90 million, and I am not doing the math for the 60 million who were in lock-down for 1 week now, and have 3 times more infected people now (a family of 3 as a medium) compared to the time 0 of the lock-down.

If I do the math for the 60 million, they will have 1,125,000 infected people, and the "fresh" 30 million on lock-down will have 187,000 infected, for a total of 1,313,000 infected people.


So, the final tally would be 1,313,000 infected people in 25 cities that have a total of 90 million people.


But here is the thing...there are 1.3 billion people left, in other cities. I can do the math for them as well, with significantly lower numbers.

Also, we are talking about Chinese Communist Party here...they will probably lock-down a city when the number of infected is much higher than yours...because they CANNOT ADMIT DEFEAT unless they ARE DEFEATED.


But hey, let's stick to 1,313,000 infected only in China, which is probably a low-ball figure, it's more than likely 5-10 times higher in reality, for MANY reasons, one being the rest of 1.3 billion in cities that HAVE infected people but not on lock-down and the CCP waiting until the numbers a scary enough...FOR THEM, before locking-down a city.


Does it still look like 8 million infected and 180k dead, in the entire China (1.4 billion people) are not realistic numbers? Or close to the real ones?
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I mean... when you put it like that it does seem believable. The authorities really did come down on this like a million ton of bricks. But wouldn't we see more evidence on social media and so on? I don't know.
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OP is spot on and correct from the beginning. HE is only using NON CHINA numbers. This is paramount to any of us outside China. But watching what is going on in China right now is beyond disturbing. Read between the lines of what the CPC is doing verse the numbers reporting and it does not add up. OP knows how to add it up and has the knowledge and experience to graph it for us too. I cant image what the people of Wuhan are thinking now as each day goes by and the picture gets dimmer and dimmer with death surrounding you everywhere and growing day by day. My heart goes out to them. They certainly don't deserve to be treated like this. Here in America most Americans think like me and pray for the Chinese people. What their government has done to them is absolutely unacceptable accident or not. WHO and CDC can't be trusted.

The USA Government has quarantined 200 diplomat families for 14 days (maybe more) and that was a clear signal to all USA people something is up.

I await OPs numbers and have already taken necessary action here in USA to remain in home and out of public for 1-3 months time.

God Bless to all especially the Chinese.
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The Chinese numbers are also speculation...CCP speculation.


Let me ask you something, smart-ass.


If there is outbreak in a city of 8 million people with you as the Mayor...what number of infected people is the one that will make you decide to lock down such city?


Please answer honestly to this question, and you won't be banned anymore.
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Do you stand by your statement that 8 million are infected and 180,000 have died?
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Avoiding the answer proves that I am right.

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You are using the same propaganda technique and the "climate change" Nazis. You make outrageous apocalyptic claims and then either do not respond to rational refutations or shut down any attempt at questioning altogether, in this case by constantly deleting posts and banning the IP addresses of those who don't agree with you. Don't be surprised that your methods and motives, aside from being wildly inaccurate, are suspect for motive.
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As opposite to climate change Nazis, which I personally consider them nuts and their climate change theory a big pile of crap designed to get Musk (who is, at best, street smart) and his masters rich, my apocalyptic claims will be proven or unproven in 3 weeks tops, not in 50 years.

My claims, up until this moment, especially considering the 7 reasons in the page 41 update AND the latest WHO announcements that only 38% of the cases are actually reported, are more than solid.


If you think that a tread on GLP, with under 100k views in 7 days, is a platform for some gov. agent to have an ulterior motive, while the ENTIRE FUCKING MSM that reaches billions of people every single day is down playing hard this epidemic, you are beyond stupid, my friend.

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HAS ME CONVINCED ...THERE MUST BE AT LEAST ONE MIL CASES!!!
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Have seen the video, but I cannot take it for face value.


It is probably true, but I don't know how small is that clinic. It is China small...or small-small?


I rather stick to verifiable data, but thanks for the link anyway.





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