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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72510977 United States 02/10/2020 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When can we expect to read "a new, adjusted model, based on new data, for the week of Feb.17th-23rd." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78309681 Thanks for the great thread! On Feb. 16th. around 20:00 GMT, or a bit earlier. Unless there is like a tsunami of data next week, that need a lot of adjusting. If so, the model will be posted late night on Sunday, Feb.16th, early Monday morning, Feb.17th. you should consider waiting a few days after feb 17th. Those numbers will be easily skewed for a few days, particularly mortality, which we won't see increasing much until at least the 24th. Either that, or be prepared to adjust the model again a week or two after. |
mr. jingles
User ID: 74525426 United States 02/10/2020 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP We know Hop and lag time greatly affect the model Incubation may have just been bumped from 14 days to 24. If thats the case this currentl model is actually best case scenario lol That means not only are there nearly 40% more probability in potentials of infection but deaths will shoot up as described by mid to end feb mr. jingles |
xBl4ckFir3x
User ID: 78218817 Argentina 02/10/2020 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your post is incredible, excelent!! So do you think the mundial economic collapse will be in the end of march? Why? Quoting: xBl4ckFir3x Because of all the reasons I have already said in this thread, starting with page 1. Not going to repeat them. Sorry but i dont understand why 15-16 febrary is critical, in what page is the answer? First page, first post. From February 16th - February 18th, multiple hospitals across the world, starting with India, Hong Kong, Singapore, Thailand, Africa, will start to feel the pressure.Many hospitals will be overcrowded and unable to test and treat most of the patients.The social fabric will start to collapse in certain countries, and the governments, if they delayed the quarantines, will have no other choice but to lock-down hundreds of millions of people in major and large to medium cities, with hundreds of millions more self-isolating in smaller cities, towns and villages. So for this can be critical? If nothing of that happens in 16-18 of next week all the model fail? Thats what you are saying? Sorry for the questions but i want to know when start to prep here in South America (Argentina) i need the time and i need to do calculations too. I want to know when is possible the economic crash here in my country to withdraw the monet from the bank. Your post is very credible, thats why i try to understand it 100%, sorry for that. Greetings.- |
deplorable recollector
(OP) User ID: 73110508 United Kingdom 02/10/2020 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP Quoting: mr. jingles We know Hop and lag time greatly affect the model Incubation may have just been bumped from 14 days to 24. If thats the case this currentl model is actually best case scenario lol That means not only are there nearly 40% more probability in potentials of infection but deaths will shoot up as described by mid to end feb Among other things, yes, lag and hop affects the CONFIRMED CASES...not my model. I wanted to adjust my model...but the cruise ship in Japan happened, and I realized that my model needs no adjustment. The longer incubation period doesn't affect my numbers, I have already counted a 14 days MEDIAN incubation period. Yes, there are cases of 17 days or 21 days...but there are also cases of 5 days and less. I believe that a median 14 days for incubation in my model is more than fine. This week is critical for many, many reasons. First, I expect MAJOR outbreaks in Hong King and Singapore to happen this week. If the above major outbreaks (HK and Singapore) happen this week, my model is virtually 100% correct...and probably optimistic. Secondly, I expect, also this week, the number of cases in the E.U. to at least double. This will be another sign that my model is correct. I expect, also this week, that India and Africa to be as silent as they are now, or maybe, maybe announce a couple cases. I expect the U.S. to follow the same trend this week, not announcing any new cases, or only announce like 2 or 3 cases. The reason is simple : the markets have to stay open, and the U.S. have to keep the information quasi-blocked for this to happen. Same for South and Central America. They will not announce cases, or very few, like 1 or 2. Thirdly, I expect Thailand and Japan cases to double this week. NOT THE CRUISE SHIP cases, but cases inside Japan. And fourth, I expect the cases on the cruise ship to be keep the 30-40% infection rate of the tested cases, which will reinforce my model base R0 of 2.4-2.6. I also expect an event this week, a major one, to take place, and it will be related to the virus, most likely a disorderly panic in a major city...I just don't know which one, tbh. |
deplorable recollector
(OP) User ID: 73110508 United Kingdom 02/10/2020 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: deplorable recollector Because of all the reasons I have already said in this thread, starting with page 1. Not going to repeat them. Sorry but i dont understand why 15-16 febrary is critical, in what page is the answer? First page, first post. From February 16th - February 18th, multiple hospitals across the world, starting with India, Hong Kong, Singapore, Thailand, Africa, will start to feel the pressure.Many hospitals will be overcrowded and unable to test and treat most of the patients.The social fabric will start to collapse in certain countries, and the governments, if they delayed the quarantines, will have no other choice but to lock-down hundreds of millions of people in major and large to medium cities, with hundreds of millions more self-isolating in smaller cities, towns and villages. So for this can be critical? If nothing of that happens in 16-18 of next week all the model fail? Thats what you are saying? Sorry for the questions but i want to know when start to prep here in South America (Argentina) i need the time and i need to do calculations too. I want to know when is possible the economic crash here in my country to withdraw the monet from the bank. Your post is very credible, thats why i try to understand it 100%, sorry for that. Greetings.- By the end of this week, you and everyone else will see what is happening, and realize what is going to happen after this week. The decision will be yours entirely, after what will unfold this week. Keep your eye on the news...there will be PLENTY. Last Edited by Recollector on 02/10/2020 01:33 PM |
mr. jingles
User ID: 74525426 United States 02/10/2020 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP Quoting: mr. jingles We know Hop and lag time greatly affect the model Incubation may have just been bumped from 14 days to 24. If thats the case this currentl model is actually best case scenario lol That means not only are there nearly 40% more probability in potentials of infection but deaths will shoot up as described by mid to end feb Among other things, yes, lag and hop affects the CONFIRMED CASES...not my model. I wanted to adjust my model...but the cruise ship in Japan happened, and I realized that my model needs no adjustment. The longer incubation period doesn't affect my numbers, I have already counted a 14 days MEDIAN incubation period. Yes, there are cases of 17 days or 21 days...but there are also cases of 5 days and less. I believe that a median 14 days for incubation in my model is more than fine. This week is critical for many, many reasons. First, I expect MAJOR outbreaks in Hong King and Singapore to happen this week. If the above major outbreaks (HK and Singapore) happen this week, my model is virtually 100% correct...and probably optimistic. Secondly, I expect, also this week, the number of cases in the E.U. to at least double. This will be another sign that my model is correct. I expect, also this week, that India and Africa to be as silent as they are now, or maybe, maybe announce a couple cases. I expect the U.S. to follow the same trend this week, not announcing any new cases, or only announce like 2 or 3 cases. The reason is simple : the markets have to stay open, and the U.S. have to keep the information quasi-blocked for this to happen. Same for South and Central America. They will not announce cases, or very few, like 1 or 2. Thirdly, I expect Thailand and Japan cases to double this week. NOT THE CRUISE SHIP cases, but cases inside Japan. And fourth, I expect the cases on the cruise ship to be keep the 30-40% infection rate of the tested cases, which will reinforce my model base R0 of 2.4-2.6. I also expect an event this week, a major one, to take place, and it will be related to the virus, most likely a disorderly panic in a major city...I just don't know which one, tbh. mr. jingles |
dodger007
User ID: 77690112 United States 02/10/2020 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THE CASE WHERE IT WAS DISCOVERED THAT ASYMPTOMATIC PEOPLE WERE SPREADING THE VIRUS TURNED OUT TO BE INCORRECT. THE CASE IN QUESTION WAS A LADY WHO FLEW TO GERMANY FOR MEETING AND 'APPEARED' TO OTHERS TO BE IN GOOD HEALTH. AFTER SHE HAD SPREAD THE VIRUS TO OTHERS AND RETURNED HOME IT TOOK TIME FOR DRS TO CONTACT HER. IN THE INTERIM THE PAPER WAS PUBLISHED RE ASYMPTOMATIC SPREADING. WHEN SHE WAS CONTACTED SHE WAS ABLE TO CONFIRM THAT WHILE ON HER TRIP SHE DID HAVE SYMPTOMS. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69990768 I HAVEN'T HEARD OF ANY OTHER CASES WHERE ADYMPTOMATIC SPREADING HAS OCCURED. Did you read the paper “ace”? Did you see how two Germans that never had any direct contact with the Chinese woman got infected because they had contact with the German that had contact with the Chinese woman? If you can’t read and understand, please don’t post misleading disinfo. Ditto with family at ski area in France, infected by man who had been to conference in Singapore. Who went to hospital in UK a week after leaving France You can count on America to do the right thing after exhausting every other alternative." Winston Churchill |
TIO JUAN
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75743490 United States 02/10/2020 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Which brings us to an amazing idea...Why not transfer suspected/infected cases to cruiseships, instead of dropping people off in cities? The folks that were recently dropped off in California, should have been taken to a large cruiseship where at least the spreading stops hopefully at that point for time being until properly tested/researched. Quoting: TripleReiki Also, would like to thank you OP for keeping us updated with your model findings Too late - they are already set up at dot mil across usa. dot gov not as smart a GLP'ers. RE: UK - clearly they will have uptick, they clearly already know about that or would not have issued their statement. Agree we will see uptick this week - and next -- and probably next ---- some say it will continue until Spring when weather warms. |
mr. jingles
User ID: 74525426 United States 02/10/2020 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)] 30% infected op Ship Definitely being used as a controlled lab Last Edited by mr. jingles on 02/10/2020 02:27 PM mr. jingles |
anonymous kiwi User ID: 62035388 New Zealand 02/10/2020 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quarantined people cannot infect outside there group once everyone is infected ..also small villages etc once everyone is infected the virus will run out of new victims. |
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Ann Arbor Chick User ID: 5814162 United States 02/10/2020 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, what multiple would you use to be close to what you project? Quoting: Sherlock Holmes 10x, 5x? [link to gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com (secure)] OP, what multiple would you use to be close to what you project? Quoting: Sherlock Holmes 10x, 5x? [link to gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com (secure)] Does anyone know how many CONFIRMED cases outside China there are, excluding cruise ship cases? |
Fluffy Pancakes
User ID: 51775590 United States 02/10/2020 03:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, what multiple would you use to be close to what you project? Quoting: Sherlock Holmes 10x, 5x? [link to gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com (secure)] OP, what multiple would you use to be close to what you project? Quoting: Sherlock Holmes 10x, 5x? [link to gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com (secure)] Does anyone know how many CONFIRMED cases outside China there are, excluding cruise ship cases? I think a little math on your part and this link will answer your questions. [link to gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com (secure)] We know the cruise ship has 130 people confirmed from news stories, but I don't see it reflected in the totals. Unless I am missing it.... I was. Japan lists 161 confirmed, so minus the 130 and you have your answer. Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up. ~Fluffy "Never interrupt an enemy in the process of destroying himself." Quercitin and zinc...Get it. Take it. Visit howbad.info...If you took the shot, for sure. |
Kilroywashere User ID: 78449028 United States 02/10/2020 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, what multiple would you use to be close to what you project? Quoting: Sherlock Holmes 10x, 5x? [link to gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com (secure)] What I am projecting is the real deal. I could care less for my model to be confirmed by anyone. My model, again, is projecting an outcome. Whether the outcome will take place or not, is what matters, not for me to try and see what others are projecting, announcing or parroting some governments. Ginsadata or BNOnews are irrelevant to my model, to a large extent. Both are just parroting official numbers, and I only follow them to see certain patterns and variations in the official numbers. I can afford to say that now, there are between 5 and 6 million people infected outside China, because I am posting on GLP, which is not a news site. If you choose to believe a site that is only showing official numbers, when it is crystal clear that those numbers are far for being the real numbers, and 24-36 hrs lagging behind the epidemic...be my guest. If it's better for your own sanity to choose to believe that are only 40,000 infected, because some site on the internet, with some guys posting some numbers, instead 5-6 million, from another guy on the internet posting numbers...what can I do? I cannot convince you that my numbers are the real ones. What hes saying is take the red pill or blue pill. Its simple people. How many times does OP have to repeat? Soak up the info, make logic out of the numbers he gives. Its an IF/THEN answer. This is as close to real data and possibly the truth we will ever get. We will find the truth AFTER its too late if its the case. But KNOW the info before so YOU can realize the truth. Beggars cant be choosers. I hope OPs model is wrong too. But this is a sneaky ass virus and just like OP said, by mid or end of February if his model is accurate then we are SOL. BUT. BUuUuUuUt. That doesnt mean the rest of the world will know or see it. They will most likely still be lying about it. Watch not what they say, but what they do......and make your own friggin mind up.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78240172 United States 02/10/2020 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry for the delay, I just had to change my underwear I can afford to say that now, there are between 5 and 6 million people infected outside China, because I am posting on GLP, which is not a news site As an aside there are news articles how a "British Man Contacts Coronavirus" Just fill in the blank for the person's citizenship. UK, USA, France.... They never mention their ancestry. Read virus has a proclivity towards infecting Asians. Are you buying into it is an Asian DNA problem? p.s. Really respect what you are doing. |
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deplorable recollector
(OP) User ID: 73110508 United Kingdom 02/10/2020 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, Quoting: 3927 Sorry for the delay, I just had to change my underwear I can afford to say that now, there are between 5 and 6 million people infected outside China, because I am posting on GLP, which is not a news site As an aside there are news articles how a "British Man Contacts Coronavirus" Just fill in the blank for the person's citizenship. UK, USA, France.... They never mention their ancestry. Read virus has a proclivity towards infecting Asians. Are you buying into it is an Asian DNA problem? p.s. Really respect what you are doing. No, not at all. Never did. And the answer is extremely simple : viruses MUTATE. It matters not if this is a bio-weapon intended against Asians, or a natural virus that started in an Asian population first. The virus WILL mutate, many times over, in a short period of time, and it will affect everyone, regardless of their DNA specifics. This is also a coronavirus. It will never disappear. It will stay with us forever...while mutating hundreds of times every season. Last Edited by Recollector on 02/10/2020 03:26 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78240172 United States 02/10/2020 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, Quoting: 3927 Sorry for the delay, I just had to change my underwear I can afford to say that now, there are between 5 and 6 million people infected outside China, because I am posting on GLP, which is not a news site As an aside there are news articles how a "British Man Contacts Coronavirus" Just fill in the blank for the person's citizenship. UK, USA, France.... They never mention their ancestry. Read virus has a proclivity towards infecting Asians. Are you buying into it is an Asian DNA problem? p.s. Really respect what you are doing. No, not at all. Never did. And the answer is extremely simple : viruses MUTATE. It matters not if this is a bio-weapon intended against Asians, or a natural virus that started in an Asian population first. The virus WILL mutate, many times over, in a short period of time, and it will affect everyone, regardless of their DNA specifics. Thanks |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78377180 France 02/10/2020 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does the 800-1000 infected outside China apply even if they are all located on a single cruise ship? ABSOLUTELY NO. The ship is in quarantine. I will use the number of cases on the quarantined ship off Japan EXCLUSIVELY to adjust, in my model, the R0, the incubation period and the chance of contagion in an environment that is similar to an office building or a busy train/subway commute in a big city. The ship off Japan has been a TREMENDOUS help for my model, and looking at the confirmed cases, that are updated every 24-36 hrs, made me NOT adjust my model. Like me, I believe that A TON of experts are focused on the cruise ship, because it's near a PERFECT model for a pandemic : people of all ages, multiple nationalities,a social environment that includes bars, ballrooms, kitchens, restaurants, cabins, etc.etc., many of them visiting cities before the quarantine...and what is most important, the ship is in QUARANTINE, which means contact is a minimum since, so the number of positives cases is as "clean" as possible, to determine how this virus spreads, how many got it already and won't pass it (because everyone is quarantined), the length of incubation, the percentage of severe cases, and a ton of other information that wouldn't be available otherwise. Understood. They are removing the confirmed infected. Also they have stated they are only going to test those who show symptoms. Thanks |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78309681 United States 02/10/2020 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78309681 United States 02/10/2020 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Listen guys, in a few days, when opee’s ridicoulous, wild guesses are prived to be a joke. I want you to remenber. This guy behind the Romanian proxy is either an attention whore or a disinfo agent. This “epidemic” is looking like a big fake UN/globalist power grab. But think about tjis thread after it peters out. And then when the next scare mongering hoax comes out, remember this bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73459426 Opee has said china is a lost cause, he’s insinuating 50% of the chinese are gonna die. Thats simply not the case. Shanghai ports and factories are already back in business. This was a giant nothing burger... 12 US cases .... TWELVE. GIMME A BREAK... |
deplorable recollector
(OP) User ID: 73110508 United Kingdom 02/10/2020 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Listen guys, in a few days, when opee’s ridicoulous, wild guesses are prived to be a joke. I want you to remenber. This guy behind the Romanian proxy is either an attention whore or a disinfo agent. This “epidemic” is looking like a big fake UN/globalist power grab. But think about tjis thread after it peters out. And then when the next scare mongering hoax comes out, remember this bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73459426 Opee has said china is a lost cause, he’s insinuating 50% of the chinese are gonna die. Thats simply not the case. Shanghai ports and factories are already back in business. This was a giant nothing burger... 12 US cases .... TWELVE. GIMME A BREAK... Thank you, Chairman Xi. Now go back to your bunker...or grave. Last Edited by Recollector on 02/10/2020 03:52 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76799292 United States 02/10/2020 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Listen guys, in a few days, when opee’s ridicoulous, wild guesses are prived to be a joke. I want you to remenber. This guy behind the Romanian proxy is either an attention whore or a disinfo agent. This “epidemic” is looking like a big fake UN/globalist power grab. But think about tjis thread after it peters out. And then when the next scare mongering hoax comes out, remember this bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73459426 Opee has said china is a lost cause, he’s insinuating 50% of the chinese are gonna die. Thats simply not the case. Shanghai ports and factories are already back in business. This was a giant nothing burger... 12 US cases .... TWELVE. GIMME A BREAK... Thank you, Chairman Xi. Now go back to your bunker...or grave. Opee, LITERALLY NO ONE HAS DIED OUTSIDE OF CHINA |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78462143 Australia 02/10/2020 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Listen guys, in a few days, when opee’s ridicoulous, wild guesses are prived to be a joke. I want you to remenber. This guy behind the Romanian proxy is either an attention whore or a disinfo agent. This “epidemic” is looking like a big fake UN/globalist power grab. But think about tjis thread after it peters out. And then when the next scare mongering hoax comes out, remember this bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73459426 Opee has said china is a lost cause, he’s insinuating 50% of the chinese are gonna die. Thats simply not the case. Shanghai ports and factories are already back in business. This was a giant nothing burger... 12 US cases .... TWELVE. GIMME A BREAK... Thank you, Chairman Xi. Now go back to your bunker...or grave. Opee, LITERALLY NO ONE HAS DIED OUTSIDE OF CHINA Thousands have died from the "flu" and schools all over the US are closed because of "the flu".. And its not like they will tell us the TRUTH is it? They hide the TRUE DOOM under the heading "THE FLU". AND idiots are far too fucking DUMB to see whats REALLY going on here. Get your flu vax...and everything will be just PEACHY. |
deplorable recollector
(OP) User ID: 73110508 United Kingdom 02/10/2020 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No deaths outside china Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73459426 900 deaths inside china FUCKING ELEVATOR AND ESCALATOR ACCIDENTS AT CHINESE MALLS HAVE KILLED MORE THAN THAT IN THE LAST MONTH LMAO Chill, comrade. Your duty, as a CCP troll, is to make others get mad...not yourself. But hey, keep posting. Need a bit of amusement. What else kills more people, outside elevators accidents? |
Dangerous Times
User ID: 78312115 02/10/2020 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Scientists worry coronavirus could evolve into something worse than flu, says quarantined expert [link to www.cnbc.com (secure)] Last Edited by Dangerous Times on 02/10/2020 04:09 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75868928 United States 02/10/2020 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Listen guys, in a few days, when opee’s ridicoulous, wild guesses are prived to be a joke. I want you to remenber. This guy behind the Romanian proxy is either an attention whore or a disinfo agent. This “epidemic” is looking like a big fake UN/globalist power grab. But think about tjis thread after it peters out. And then when the next scare mongering hoax comes out, remember this bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73459426 Opee has said china is a lost cause, he’s insinuating 50% of the chinese are gonna die. Thats simply not the case. Shanghai ports and factories are already back in business. This was a giant nothing burger... 12 US cases .... TWELVE. GIMME A BREAK... Thank you, Chairman Xi. Now go back to your bunker...or grave. Opee, LITERALLY NO ONE HAS DIED OUTSIDE OF CHINA Thousands have died from the "flu" and schools all over the US are closed because of "the flu".. And its not like they will tell us the TRUTH is it? They hide the TRUE DOOM under the heading "THE FLU". AND idiots are far too fucking DUMB to see whats REALLY going on here. Get your flu vax...and everything will be just PEACHY. Yep....wife just went to the doc for other things the other day and they asked her if she had her flu shot yet and if not, do you want one? She quickly said NO because I have educated her about the shots and whats in them. SAY NO TO FLU SHOTS!! |
deplorable recollector
(OP) User ID: 73110508 United Kingdom 02/10/2020 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not going to say what I did, do, or will do. But you should guess. I’m sorry, I don’t mean to be dense, but I don’t understand why you can’t share this info? I can share it...but can you, or anyone else verify if its true? No, you can't. I can be an internet troll, I can be a paranoid individual, I can be an agent of Big Pasta, trying to panic people into buying pasta. It is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT to this thread what I say about what I do or who I am...because this information cannot be verified, hence, it's useless information. |