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Email I just sent to my estranged wife regarding Coronavirus. THIS COULD SAVE LIVES...

 
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Thanks for the info....What could safely be used for kids; 7 years old.
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The only meds that can actually help you with the virus at this point are the same as anti HIV/Cancer ones.Meds that help your organism fight a failed immune system.Taking anything else is useless and will prolly do way more harm to you than the virus does.
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would it stand to reason that people taking antiretroviral meds for HIV and Hepatitis C already have a built-in immunity of sorts to THIS particulare NovelCoronaVirus despite having a compromised immune system?

BTW, most people don't know that the HIV drugs are decades old failed medications for cancer cures. That is why people with chronic viral infections all eventually will die...the drugs were killing off cancer patients in the 60s-80s instead of curing them and the FDA didn't approve them.

Which leads me to wonder if this NovelCoronaVirus is really just weaponized aerosoled HIV virus that works in weeks as opposed to years to cause accelerated death syndromes?

The old line HIV medication claimed to work best is called Kaletra...it causes gastrointestinal upset/diarrhea and it is no longer a top choice for controling HIV viral load.

I am still not sure why lopinavir/ritonavir will work on NovelCoronaVirus, anybody care to elaborate?!
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Because this is a "retro-virus" of sorts, it "hides", starts small and then bam knocks the wind of out your sails- It also possibly has HIV inserted in it-- which scares me, knowing what I know about HIV.
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What do you know about HIV?
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Do Tell.
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Thank you.
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This is my Phase 3 preps that I am getting today. People (well, at least GLPers) should take note and prepare now.
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I remembered this post but forgot the zantac or pecid. I gotta get that tomorrow.
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Good time to bump this thread I think, and thank you again for it OP.

I read something this morning that unless a person starts having great difficulty breathing, there is nothing more they will do at a hospital that you can't do at home.

I took this advice and have some generic claritin (I don't do Benedryl very well), some pepcid and some prilosec I think it was. I also have some zinc tablets with elderberry, and have been taking Vitamin C.

My goal has been to make sure I have what I need at home to treat the symptoms if any of us get it, and I really appreciated this heads-up. I'm not nearly as scared as some people, and I thank you for that!

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Thank you OP!

Bump this, pin this to the top! People will be getting sick and need this info!

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 You need to go to the store and buy one of these: Pepcid, Tagamet, Adix, or Zantac. 
Buy enough for you, xxxxx, xxx, and whoever you want to save, enough last 2 weeks. 
This covers your H2 antagonist drug. 

 Buy enough Prilosec, Prevacid. or Nexium to do the same as above. 

This covers the PPI Drugs. (Proton Pump Inhibitors)
 
Lastly, I'd buy a big ass bottle of benadryl or generic benadry. aka... diphenhydramine.
This covers your need for a H1 antagonist. 

You know what benadryl does. But the H2 drugs work in the same way except on different histamines. The PPI (Proton Pump Inhibitor) stops monocytes from going into overdrive. (Monocytes = White Blood Cells) 
The Coronavirus hits in a similar way to the flu. As it is a "Novel Virus" meaning the body has never seen anything like this... the body goes nuts, to the point that your own immune system kills you in something called a Cytokine Storm. 

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Someone needs to talk about oral and eye health. I suggest gargling with strong ass mouth wash and using sovereign silver drops in each eye for cleaning.
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Question on weather or not to add Mucinex (just the expectorant / not the + decongestant version that dries) to this cocktail combo?
Anyone start taking this yet?
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Pepcid, Tagamet, Adix, or Zantac. 
This covers your H2 antagonist drug. 

Prilosec, Prevacid. or Nexium.This covers the PPI Drugs. (Proton Pump Inhibitors)
 
benadryl or generic benadry. aka... diphenhydramine.
This covers your need for a H1 antagonist. 

You know what benadryl does. But the H2 drugs work in the same way except on different histamines. The PPI (Proton Pump Inhibitor) stops monocytes from going into overdrive. (Monocytes = White Blood Cells) 
The Coronavirus hits in a similar way to the flu. As it is a "Novel Virus" meaning the body has never seen anything like this... the body goes nuts, to the point that your own immune system kills you in something called a Cytokine Storm. 
 Quoting: First Born Son


Does this have anything to do with that, or is this something different?? Anyone here with scientific or medical knowledge? Below is a quote from the entire source.



Source is at another website apparently not allowed to link(?): Deadly feedback loop? ACE-inhibitors and ARBs increase ACE2 function by factor 3 to 5. COVID-19 increases the blood pressure in infected persons. Reason: COVID-19 infects and destroys cells via ACE2-receptor. Reduced ACE2 function in the body leads to higher blood pressure.

Below are the key points that seem to lead to the deadly feedback loop.

ACE-inhibitors and ARBs increase the function of ACE2-receptors by factor 3x to 5x.
ACE2-receptors are the infection-entry-point of COVID-19 virus into a cell.

[link to www.bmj.com (secure)]
[link to www.sciencedaily.com (secure)]
[link to www.nature.com (secure)]


A common refute of this idea has been to say, that not only is the function of ACE2 increased on the cells, the amount of dissolved ACE2 in the blood is also increased by the same factor. Thus this ACE2 would "bind" to the COVID-19 virus-particles and thus disarm them.

This refute was only theoretical.

It is known that on the COVID-19 virus particles the spikes have to activated before the virus can dock onto the ACE2-receptor. The activation is done by the enzyme furin.
This enzyme is found in the lungs, the liver and the small intestine. It is not in the blood.

[link to amp.theatlantic.com (secure)]
[link to www.virology.ws]


Studies from 2010 show that a reduced levels of ACE2 lead to higher blood pressure. COVID-19 infects and destroy cells via the ACE2-receptor. Thus with progression of the COVID-19 infection, the body gradually looses cells that have to do with the actual function of ACE2-receptors. Thus it is plausible that COVID-19 elevates blood pressure.
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

Several studies have demonstrated the modulatory effect of ACE2 on blood pressure. ACE2 is present in vascular endothelial walls, and plays a major role in producing Ang(1-7). Based on in vitro biochemical data and in vivo findings, a reduction in ACE2 levels could lead to elevated Ang-II levels, thus promoting increased blood pressure.[16] [32]

The progession of a COVID-19 infection reduces the proper functioning of ACE2 in the body, since COVID-19 binds to ACE2 and destroy cells that have ACE2-receptors. This leads to an elevation of the blood pressure. This leads to the hospital increasing the dosage of ACE-inhibitors and/or ARBs.



Thus it would seem there is a deadly feedback loop happening here:



Patients with high blood pressure, already taking ACE-inhibitors and ARBs, are exacerbating the speed and harm of COVID-19 in the body. It is like pouring oil into a fire. This is obviously going to affect older patients much more than younger patients.
Once in the hospital, doctors will see that blood pressure is rising and will increase the dosage, which in turn increases the viral load in the body. Which in turn increases the blood pressure.

Young and healthy patients without high blood pressure will also experience an increase of blood pressure. If the sickness flips from mild to severe, they will be admitted to a hospital. Here the higher blood pressure will be treated with an ACE-inhibitor. This again leads to the deadly feedback loop.



Yes, I know one can not simply stop taking an ACE-inhibitor or ARBs. There are alternatives (calcium antagonist, beta-blockers, ...?). This must be decided by the doctor.

I am not suggesting how to break the deadly feedback loop.

I am asking is there a deadly feedback loop?

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ruh-roh, raggy!

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

PPIs no good for sars-cov2?
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What ti do for kids?
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Big Bump.. Incredible this thread started in Jan20-
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Big Bump.. Incredible this thread started in Jan20-
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Sure is.
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Bump - people need to see this again.
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I know things... this is not Uncle intel,...
I work in Biohazard remediation and mitigation for a living. I specialize in disaster sites where a large number of people have passed and ensuring the site is safe for people to enter. (Think Hurricane Katrina) Places where there are cadavers, many; rotten, festering, wanting to harm others. Places that have been underwater for so long that the very walls are lined from end to end with toxic mold. So I have a inside line to people and things I cannot elaborate on


xxxx,

The Corona-virus is tearing it's way across the world, and it is truly much worse than "they" are letting on. Is a big deal and I am afraid it may become a MUCH bigger deal. 

 You need to go to the store and buy one of these: Pepcid, Tagamet, Adix, or Zantac. 
Buy enough for you, xxxxx, xxx, and whoever you want to save, enough last 2 weeks. 
This covers your H2 antagonist drug. 

 Buy enough Prilosec, Prevacid. or Nexium to do the same as above. 

This covers the PPI Drugs. (Proton Pump Inhibitors)
 
Lastly, I'd buy a big ass bottle of benadryl or generic benadry. aka... diphenhydramine.
This covers your need for a H1 antagonist. 

You know what benadryl does. But the H2 drugs work in the same way except on different histamines. The PPI (Proton Pump Inhibitor) stops monocytes from going into overdrive. (Monocytes = White Blood Cells) 
The Coronavirus hits in a similar way to the flu. As it is a "Novel Virus" meaning the body has never seen anything like this... the body goes nuts, to the point that your own immune system kills you in something called a Cytokine Storm. 

This is very similar to a "Peanut Allergy", in that it's the bodies response that damages the person not the peanuts.

When to start this "therapy"? No need to take anything in advance. But at the first sign of "flu like symptoms" I'd start therapy. Take it as directed on the box. 

You'll read and hear about it on the news. Obviously!
What makes this virus "The Perfect Storm" is that it: 
1. Has up to a 14 day incubation period. 
2. The infected start shedding the virus in as little as 5 days after exposure. 
3. Is as adaptable as the common cold. Meaning that about after each 3rd generation, the virus mutates into something that would require a completely different vaccination.
 
We could literally ALL have this virus and not know it.
 
I'm not freaking out, I'm not making a big deal out of nothing. You can google everything I've brought up.
 
Now for the conspiracy theory portion of my presentation. Whether you know it or not. There have been SEVERAL recalls of various anti-acid drugs in the past few months. (Once again, you can research this) Maybe we knew this was coming and we have been stockpiling. 
Yes, hospitals will give you prevacid and pepcid if you have the Corona-virus. 
Just sayin'.
Love, Me
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Weiiiiird. This chick I am banging just sent me this e-mail.
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You could make this more potent by adding vitamin C and zinc to the mixture.
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Add in coconut oil ^
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Check it out...
New York hospitals are quietly testing a heartburn drug as treatment for COVID-19 and will know whether its effective in 'a few weeks'

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]

Thanks for the early info OP!
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Check it out...
New York hospitals are quietly testing a heartburn drug as treatment for COVID-19 and will know whether its effective in 'a few weeks'

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)]

Thanks for the early info OP!
 Quoting: D.G.


Well that's interesting!
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New York clinical trial quietly tests heartburn remedy against coronavirus:

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NYPOST Reporting on what was on GLP months ago-

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telling it straight

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I think the OP is a pretty smart guy. Would live to know what he’s thinking about things now but he doesn’t post much.
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OP spot on!
Trying to bring common sense to GLP...and failing miserably.
If you give me bad karma - be man enough to put your name behind it.
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GLP first again!





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