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This applies to any outbreak not just the current 1. including Ebola,MERS,measeles,etc

PHASES OF A PANDEMIC OUTBREAK

3 waves or phases,

PHASE 1- Govern covers it up.Public given little info and told it is under control.Testing of patients at high risk begins.Hospitals are staffed and patients can b treated. life is normal for the most part.

Since hospitals do not want to lose $$,they will not report they have a case of the illness in isolation. This means not all personnel know they themselves are at risk or have been exposed. This includes office personnel, the cleaning dept,the security guards,the kitchen staff,the labs,other doctors and nurses not directly involved with treatment of the sick person. It may mean staff directly connected to the patient as info can be covered up during shift changes. If you don't know,you won't tell the public.

All these ppl who do not know are now helping to spread the illness. These ppl,both medical staff and others who might have passed by in the ER or hallways, carry the disease out of the hospital to restaraunts and home to their families. This leads to PHASE 2.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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PHASE 2- The disease begins to spread. The news of an outbreak can not be covered up, but the news will say it is under control.Testing of those at high risk of contact will be done.Hospitals will tighten their isolation procedures. they may even find a way to blame the spread on the medical staff making mistakes. More ppl will b placed in isolation that are sick.

The main news will be that the disease is isolatedc to a major city. Like when EBOLA hit Dallas. or the flights to NYC,LA,Atlanta. For most of the country,life is normal. The outbreak is clustered to 1 hospital or just a few cities.

note-depending on how contagious the illness is,it may be spreading everywhere. This is when the CDC plays catch up. they tell the public they have it under control as they work to find the cause and create tests. Before the CDC can tell the public anything,they need to figure out the disease.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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PHASE 3-DEATHS begin to occurr too frequently for the CDC to cover up.this includes deaths to the family members of the hospital workers<see PHASE 1>

As the medical staff< remember this includes sanitation,kitchen,housekeeping,etc not just nurses and doctors> realizes there is an outbreak and they have been lied to or at least not properly informed ,information will leak out. Now the internet will be full of stories from the hospital workers. As Facebook and Twitter begin to spread information, the CDC will be on the MSM giving us a report to look like they are still in control.

At this point, the disease or outbreak may still be localized to a major city. We may see a localized voluntary quarantene. "Stay home avoid ppl.Contacts who might be at risk are being monitored closely...." at this point, we should start to see medical personnel quit their jobs. If staff can be rotated from other un-effected hospitals or clinics,it may be minimal. The public does trust the govern afterall.

IF the disease remains localized and IF the CDC has been able to get ahead of it,the disease will stop and not spread farther. Most outbreaks will stop at this phase. We have seen these in the US before. EBOLA,measels,flu,plaque in CO.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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PHASE 4- The disease spread farther out to other towns. It becomes contagious and widespread faster than the CDC can get control.

Other towns have seen outbreaks and gone thru PHASE 1,2 ,and 3. If another town had 1 sick person and the CDC reacted quickly at isolating the patient and contact ppl,it is still possable to contain the outbreak. So yes to be at PHASE 4,the town must have gone thru all 3 PHASES above.

Until now, life was normal for most of the country. The MSM and CDC could repeat "the public is not at risk." Now to look like they have any control they must b pro-active. They must begin to Quarantene and isolate towns. Depending on how widespread the illness is,they may mean 1 or a few towns. I would expect them to try getting the public to self-quartantene within a small radius for 1 week. YES this is Mashall LAW. We have seen localized ML in the US before. think KATRINA,tornadoes,blizzards,floods. It is not called Marshal Law by the local governments. It is called "curfew". the NG shows up and blocks the roads in and out of the effected area. THIS DOES HAPPEN.

Now that more ppl have been locked down,more news will leak out. some will be rumors and some will b truth. Preppers will stockpile supplies and keep a watchful eye at the beginning of this phase. The general public will go on and life will b normal,outside the immediate area. Concern and worry for those just outside the isolated or quarantene zone will grow.

As a town hits PHASE 4,i believe logic says other towns are already at PHASE 1,2 and 3. This is now beyond control of the CDC. the MSM will have to start asking harder questions. the govern will change tactics from cover it up<phase 1>: to we have it under control<phase 2 and 3> to CYA. They will look for who to blame. "How far do we quarantene?" will be debated by politicians.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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PHASE 5- News of the other outbreaks gets to the public.No longer is the disease isolated to 1 or 2 towns and the city. As 1 town begins to see deaths, other towns have infected patients arriving at their ER's. Now the medical personnel of the entire nation become concerned. The outbreak is beyond the control and containment of the CDC. WE HAVE A PANDEMIC spreading quickly thru the states.

At this point, nurses and doctors will start to quit their jobs.As word spreads, other hospital staff will quit. How many is hard to judge. Will hospitals escort those who quit out with security guards so they can not tell others? i believe it will b nurses and doctors 1st.they will not show up to work.this may be unknown to the lower class workers. It may take a few days for the news of all these ppp quitting to reach the kitchen staff. The closer to the quarantene zones, the more workers who will quit. in a period of a week,you may see a drop of 10-25% of all medical or hospital workers throughout the country. Close to the original ground zero of the epidemic and the now quarantened zones,you will see 50%.

Preppers will be bugging out.you may see some small towns try to self-isolate. they can set up roadblocks and keep strangers out. Fear and Panic begin to spread. Most ppl outside the cities have food for a few weeks in their homes.

As the panic spreads, services will be interupted. The CDC and govern's. will try to control this. Which will happen 1st?
Trucking of goods including food will slow, Workers will stop going to work including those in charge of the electricity,water,natural gas,etc.as the % of these workers increases services will shut down. The govern will impliment their COG plan. They will try to force ppl to work. How well will the ppl listen and follow orders?

The COG plans might work for major cities for a short time. The govern may be able to get some food trucked in by using the NG. there is not enough NG ppl to deal with the whole country. As deaths pile up and medical staff quits,the cities will begin to riot. As the govern loses control of the cities, these citizens will try to escape. Once the food stops flowing in then the ppl will flow out.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Small towns of the US will have to fend for themself. they will have no food trucked in.They will self-isolate and close down the roads.1 big key is if the govern can keep the electric power grid functioning. We have all heard the #'s,90% dead within a year of it going off. The longer the grid stays up the better the small towns can survive. ppl riot more when they are bored. the video games and cell phones keep ppl occupied. When they trurn off these ppl turn to vandalism,theft, riots,chaos,and destruction.

Expect the FEDERAL govern COG plan to concentrate on keeping the grid functioning. to attempt to keep trucking flowing.The state govern will concentrate on keeping law and order in their capitals. these are not always the largest cities but they are where the governor lives.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Sorry for having to split that into several posts. if i type intelligence here on GLP, i get kicked out after a couple paragraphs.

NOTE the 1st wave can jump into the 2nd fast. the 2nd might blow into the 3rd etc without even being noticed. these waves can happen in weeks.

as for the current Wuhan virus,i think we are between phase 3 and 4. there are too many cases of monitored patients outside the major cities.the govern is not reprting on ALL the cases until they get test results. this can be closer to your neighborhood than the news is telling u.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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WE R IN STAGE 7 OR 8 OF 9!
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outline your 9 stages
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we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Saw vid today, the natives are getting restless in wuhan. I expect its gonna get bad ugly in there.
Theyre probably goin nuts, vids of them hollering outta the towers at night, theyre starting to sound pretty desperate and angry compared to how they sounded a few days ago.
Baaaaad scene
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the best 4-5 days will be interesting.

i don’t see this virus alarming anyone outside of china.

i think the rest of the world is prepared for it. they know it’s out there , they know what to look for , and the hospitals/governments will act accordingly.

sure there will be cases, and people who might just die , but the numbers will be very very low.

china is going to isolate people. and let this thing run it course for the next week or so. i think it was spreading and spreading fats becuase no one knew about it. no government no citizen. now they do ... isolate, triage, contain ... it’s gonna be a long haul for china. months and months but i think the rest of the world will be okay
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that is IF they can cure or treat it. a big IF.
if they can not, then it has had time to become more widespread leading to phase 5 and then full chasos.
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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so what phase is it at this time
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between 3 and 4,due to cases of the virus being so widespread. how well each of the isolated patients responds to treatment decideds how fast we enter phase 5.
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2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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bump'ing to read later tonight.
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as the US hits phase 5,i do think the govern will try to lock down everyone,Marshal Law everywhere. Most will obey in tthe short run.Obviously nobody wants to b sick,so yeah lets all stay home.

It will be short lived. As food runs out and services begin to turn off,ppl will riot. The fear factor will turn into MADMAX quickly. How long will the NG guards stay at their posts? minimum 10% will break ranks and go home to their families in the 1st week.

the CDC will have to give the ppl good news in a matter of a few days. after 5 days,the ppl will wake up and see that the outbreak is out of control and the govern will no longer b in charge.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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predictions were wrote sunday the 26th. i had forgotten the super bowl was a week away. so my calculations are off some. the DOW did fall about 1000 points during the week thou. flights to china including commercial are being stopped by many countries.more of china is on lock down than a week ago.

2020 wuhan virus outbreak jan 26

at thus rate, i expect all ofg China to b locked down including commercial exports by end of Mon.

considering our news here, i do think by Wed the MSM starts to pay attention to this outbreak.so far they are stuck crying over hillary still.

expect stock market to start dropping Mon.think they stop it at a 1000 point drop. global recession and issues as China produces most of the goods.this needs time to fix.may see shortages and high high prices for 2-3yrs.

i think the US got luxky with SARS. i think we have a city with an outbreak like Toronto had with SARS.this is our best case as i do think it will get much worse by spring.

#'s do not look good. China is lying. as deaths start happening around the world this next week, expect to see possable or estmates from the news that China has over 1 million deaths or at least in hospitals.

IF it is a bio leak ,it may be difficult to stop. RO 10+,8 day incubation,death rates 25%+<that is conservative it could go double that>. population of world drop of 1 billion over the next 3 yrs.
many things in play tyo that billion deaths. economic food shortages,riots and civil unrest,other diseases will kill since many will avoid hospitals.,etc. if we,or any country loses electric power during or because of fears,we know that means a much higher # of deaths. any country losing electricity is subject to a 75-90% loss of their population in a year.

again those are my conservative predictions. i do fear China knows more than we are told as to how very bad this will be.the close down of 1 city was enough. the closing of cities since is mind boggling. most can not comprehenmd the damages that we will most likely see by mid spring. 2020 began with a bang and VA never fired 1 shot.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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WE R IN STAGE 7 OR 8 OF 9!
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Thread: List of Countries with verified Coronavirus Cases, USA (per state), Canada (per province) & H2H Transmission, Infected Ships now Included

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think it is wrong. i think if China made it they would want it to work opposite of that. 2nd i do think it is an accident that leaked out. if anyone did it on purpose they would hasve the antidote.

however could it b the NWO since they can't get rid of TRUMP? they got greedy and leaked the bio weapon too early? there is facts to back up both cases.we may never know for sure.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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with all the talk that the govern will impose Marshal Law on the US soon,i want to update this thread.


CONCERNING THE WUHAN VIRUS-

as the disease goes from PHASE 3 to 4,i expect the govern to do local quarantenes.as i stated before i think they will try to look like they are in control and keep the ppl calm. if it is done early,it might slow down the spread of the outbreak. i do not think it will stop it.our hope is the govern can slow the disease down and the CDC gets ahead with a test that is accurate.

i do not think we will see the whole country on ML at the same time all at once.by then the disease would be too widespread and the deaths would already be causing panic.

we have seen locallized Marshal Law in the US.ppl tend to forget or are ignorant of that fact. think KATRINA,tornadoes,EQ's,blizzards,CA wild fires,flooding,etc.
in these cases the local area is shut down to residence only and a curfew is enacted.under different wording but basically the same thing. it is done to stop thefts and to protect the public from a road hazard,down poewer lines,etc. but this is ML with a different name. the NG blocks the roads and u must have ID to enter and then only at certain times.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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MARSHAL LAW should be enacted in areas where the disease becomes epidemic. ppl become sick that are not dirtectly connected to the patient 0 of each location. we already have H2H transfere between a patient and the contact list or family of the patient. once it spreads beyond that to the general public via the medical staff or prior to the person realizing they were sick,more cases will pop up.

as more ppl get sick in the nearby town,the CDC should
do a locallized isolation.this may be stated as a "recommend you not to travel" or "avoid large crowds".
doesn't matter what they name it.it will be a public health emergency<issued in WASH already andthey are prepping for more patients>. hopefully, it will not just be voluntary. i do think most ppl will follow the advice. "stay home do not travel as u may infect others including your family." that would get most to think at least temporarily. this is the only way the US or any country can slow the spread of
the disease down and buy time to develop an accurate test.

as these local lock downs begin,we are at phase 4.if the govern does get a good test and can treat the sick and the disease does not infect more than the hospitals can handle then we might b O'K. that is a lot of IF's.it also relies on the govern to act quickly, not play cover up and hide facts.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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BE CAREFUL-

locking dowen towns might slow the spread but not stop it. you might see a drop off of the infected #'s.as the CDC concentrates efforts in a few places,the disease might pop up elsewhere.

in the areas that are locked down, we could get a 2nd wave. the 1st the govern got control of. now what do ppl do after???? they go out to get food,return to work,visit family,etc. after being stuck home for so long, they will enjoy their freedom and get out of their homes. if any of them is a carrier or they touch something that had the virus on it,wave 2 starts.

since wave 1 failed to completely erradicate the disease, the public will panic more than before.you might not b able to do a 2nd lock down.ppl will flee to seek medical care elsewhere.this would be very bad as it will likely spread the disease farther.

do not think like the herd. as calm returns,stay proactive with your preps and avoid ppl.give it a month after the govern says it is under control. do not run back into the fire with everyone else. we may look foolish but we will be safer.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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I think you are totally barking up the wrong tree.

Vaccinations caused what they later called the "Spanish flu"
Aspirin toxicity then killed many of those who were sick with mixed symptoms of typhoid/cholera/etc that they had just been vaccinated against

The liar lies
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Phase 0 is the pandemic gets hyped up on GLP
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Phase 0 is the pandemic gets hyped up on GLP
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Riddle me this....

Why did prezident Xi not have a full hazmat suit on when he visited so called hospital?

He had a cheap, made in China mask on....eyes and hands exposed.

Well?





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