Do you believe in demons?

Bill had a heart of gold. You're just blinded by fake godliness. A lot like democrats and their fake empathy.

I feel bad for you.

Yes, it is unfortunate however most organized religion and evangelical institutions have become corrupted as we pointed out in previous comments.

Isaiah 29:13

These people come near to me with their mouth
and honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.
Their worship of me
is based on merely human rules they have been taught.


That does not mean we are being used but rather deceived. God only works in truths, his intent is clear. The trickster is the one who works in deceptions.

And people who lose faith because of their tainted house of worship, is another way the trickster wins. It's quite clever.

Which is why we must bear witness to those wicked ways, as much it may pain us to do so, because only then can we be aware and recognize them and the deviousness they cause.

Just as we can see what is true.

Believe ain't got nothin' to do with it.

For a long time I was looking at other cultures' beliefs, to get a better understanding of the supernatural. But it was under my nose the whole time, the Christian perspective on the occult and supernatural.

If you see our world, then you have seen the handiwork of demons.

People will usually just say "Oh, he (she) must be on drugs" when we see someone under demonic influence. And they ARE on drugs. But that simply makes them MORE SUSCEPTIBLE.

Where do you think those random evil/weird thoughts come from

ignorant fear

LOL talk about easy pickings...

A fool and his money are soon parted.

Yes.

They are reptilians. They are the previous genetic creation of the annunaki.

They failed and where wiped out.

Some survived and went underground.
They drop parasites that can completly control a host.

Thats " demons"

Entirely logical and very true in many instances. This is also another way that the truth has been twisted and construed.

I personally think science should be take into consideration when appropriate, which is indeed often depending on the circumstance. However even science has it's limits and even what has been -proven- about the -real- questions using science, still leaves them ultimately unanswered.

Like Arthur Conan Doyle said: " Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, how improbable, must be true "

And the concept of science being evil is mainly due to how much it can lead people to focus on lesser things. Such as someone being so concerned with their cell phone they walk off a subway platform in front of an oncoming train.

You could call that stupidity or ignorance. Or you could wonder if they still would've done it had they not been so -absorbed- into their whatever.

Then that leads to wonder how much everyone could help each other if we were more genuinely concerned with what's happening around us. More might even see the relevant events unfolding -right now- that were predicted thousands, if not more, years ago.

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Those questions we won't ever know and it's pointless to worry about. Spinning around in circles expecting a different result is real madness.

Which is why , personally, I think that anything which we create can be used in either manner. Science can be used to do fantastic, beneficial things and these things can also be used for the most horrendous, unthinkable to occur.

And when you look at most situations where we have used science to advance ourselves, many instances have had those pesky unforeseen consequences.

We split the atom for the purpose of exploiting atomic energy. Yet the atomic bomb was the first real world application.

We came up with a cure for Polio. Yet accidentally made HIV in the process which to this day, big pharma exploits and charges people for a pill they have to take daily and costs 200 dollars.

What we call it is ultimately irrelevant, because whatever we conjure, abstract or physical, can be used to influence people in some form, one way or another.

So by that likely variable, whether ''real'' or not , in any interpretation, supercedes that question, because we make it real ourselves in our daily lives and what we do.

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Joke's on you! I've never donated to the church or any affiliated charities because I have seen Joel Osteen landing in his helicopter when passing on the freeway and know that he uses the charity plate to buy jet fuel.



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Now thats just fucked up!

I would just like to say that I make no judgement one way or the other only that what I said is how I have to come to understand it. I don’t have a finger out to say you are wrong or I am right. My gift is that, a gift, and what it all means I have no idea. I don’t speak to spirit or try to make communication in fact often I wonder if I am somehow influencing myself. I have seen things though I cannot understand and the mystery is the most wonderful part. At times it is more than just seeing it also a knowing that I cannot explain. However to each their own and arguing over it I think is not supposed to be the point but to enjoy the wonder together.

As an Atheist...what a statement. As an atheist, you likely consider yourself a person of some intellectual ability--most of you do. So, as an atheist, surely you're aware of the current theories regarding the nature of what we call the natural world--that world that you can see and touch. So tell me, as an atheist, what exactly, in those theories, for instance, in string theory or in quantum theory, or in holographic theory, precludes the existence of a creature that might exist outside your ability to perceive it.

As to the Bible being proved, you, as an atheist, might have a point. It seems ridiculous to prove a Book is true by using that Book. The Book can be proven true. The problem is, you aren't willing to do what it takes to prove it. You see, it can be proven true by doing what it says. In order to do that, you have to read it. You have to try it out. You have to believe it. "Taste and see that it is good". Like proving sugar is sweet. You can be told all your life. You can see it. You can read the stories and hear the testimonies. But you'll never really know until you taste it.

Unfortunately, you'll likely never taste it.

“La plus belle des ruses du diable est de vous persuader qu'il n'existe pas."

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("The devil's finest trick is to persuade you that he does not exist.")” Charles Baudelaire

I don't need to 'be-lie-ve' in them. I have met some. They are real.

Demons and fallen angels and Aliens.

Yes. All in the Satan family.

Joseph Smith met a fallen angel.

It not really a gift, it is the highly evolved beings of the old soul.

Again this is where hermetic student came from.

Truly those of the least in the kingdom of God is greater than I.

Whoever's come with me into the kingdom of God will also be my friends.

Again this is physical dimensions, and we all with soul do have a Spirit that had been created at the same.. I was gonna say time but it doesn't exist.

In our Spiritual planes there is no fear, no hate, no negative matter at all and neither any darkness.

Fear is what lifeforms created who doesn't understand darkness and cursed it.

This is lowest dimensions, and one must be free of fear to be in 4th dimensions.

From 3rd to 5th dimensions is a greatest leap that it never actually been done before and that is the rewards.

Again the Kybalion explained this with great wisdom:

But, yet, even the highest of these advanced Beings exist merely as creations of, and in, the Mind of THE ALL, and are subject to the Cosmic Processes and Universal Laws. They are still Mortal. We may call them “gods” if we like, but still they are but the Elder Brethren of the Race,–the advanced souls who have outstripped their brethren, and who have foregone the ecstacy of Absorption by THE ALL, in order to help the race on its upward journey along The Path. But, they belong to the Universe, and are subject to its conditions–they are mortal–and their plane is below that of Absolute Spirit.

Only the most advanced Hermetists are able to grasp the Inner Teachings regarding the state of existence, and the powers manifested on the Spiritual Planes. The phenomena is so much higher than that of the Mental Planes that a confusion of ideas would surely result from an attempt to describe the same. Only those whose minds have been carefully trained along the lines of the Hermetic Philosophy for years–yes, those who have brought with them from other incarnations the knowledge acquired previously – can comprehend just what is meant by the Teaching regarding these Spiritual Planes. And much of these inner Teachings is held by the Hermetists as being too sacred, important and even dangerous for general public dissemination.

The intelligent student may recognize what we mean by this when we state that the meaning of “Spirit” as used by the Hermetists is akin to “Living Power”; “Animated Force”; “Inner Essence”; “Essence of Life,“ etc., which meaning must not be confounded with that usually and commonly employed in connection with the term, i.e., “religious;
ecclesiastical; spirituelle; ethereal; holy,” etc., etc.

To occultists the word “Spirit” is used in the sense of “The Animating Principle,” carrying with it the idea of Power, Living Energy, Mystic Force, etc. And occultists know that that which is known to them as “Spiritual Power” may be employed for evil as well as good ends (in accordance with the Principle of Polarity), a fact which has been recognized by the majority of religions in their conceptions of Satan, Beelzebub, the Devil, Lucifer, Fallen Angels, etc. And so the knowledge regarding these Planes has been kept in the Holy of Holies in all Esoteric Fraternities and Occult Orders,–in the Secret Chamber of the Temple.

But this may be said here, that those who have attained high spiritual powers and have misused them, have a terrible fate in store for them, and the swing of the pendulum of Rhythm will inevitably swing them back to the furthest extreme of Material existence, from which point they must retrace their steps Spiritward, along the weary rounds of The Path, but always with the added torture of having always with them a lingering memory of the heights from which they fell owing to their evil actions.

The legends of the Fallen Angels have a basis in actual facts, as all advanced occultists know. The striving for selfish power on the Spiritual Planes inevitably results in the selfish soul losing its spiritual balance and falling back as far as it had previously risen. But to even such a soul, the opportunity of a return is given–and such souls make the return journey, paying the terrible penalty according to the invariable Law.

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Leviticus 18:21 ..

And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.



Revelation 17:8

The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

Yes.

Realizing that, for many years while unbeknown, I've the power of persuasion and silver tongued charisma, had been using it ignorantly and for the wrong reasons. Full of vanity and lust.

Being self centered and trying to justify the, sometimes terrible, influence and manipulations I have committed. Most would think it looking to deeply simply because my 'intent' was non malicious, or because I didn't 'hurt' anyone, or break a 'law' for that matter.

But I did hurt many people. I did break laws, just not ours. And did it in the worst way. Without them, even realizing it.

This is how I know the deceiver, much to my regret, because I used to be it.

Exactly, and for those who had not read with wisdom and understanding of my Revelation:

The beast that you saw [Obama], was, [Osama Bin Laden] and is not [the same clone], and is soon to ascend from the [secrets military labs] abyss. And he goes forth unto destruction. And the inhabitants upon the earth (those whose names have not been written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world [soulless beasts of the earth]) shall be amazed upon seeing the beast who was and is not.

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And was before my awakening last year, and I even impressed myself..

And this is for one who understands, who has wisdom: the seven heads are seven mountains [Washington DC], upon which the woman sits [White House and Capitol Hill], and they are seven kings.

Five have fallen [since JFK assassination, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Reagan], one is [G H.W Bush now fallen] and the other has not yet arrived [Trump]. And when he arrives, he must remain for a brief time. - Revelation [of John The Baptist] 17:19-20

Even Nostradamus was impressed and he said "like a cat pulling all the right strings"

I -knew- there was something to that. I even used to refer to the Obama presidency as 'Obama-nation' = ' abomination '. And that was before I knew anything, I was only being snarky at the time.

My mind -

Yes, I remember you said "Obamination".

:epoclol:

Sometimes my accent twang comes out.


I'm in awe though. Amazing.

Yes they are real. Let me give you my background. For the record, I grew up in Christian family, but not really going to church on a weekly basis. The only exception was on the holidays.

Now in my high school years I did go to a Baptist school, but never really was impacted by anything spiritual. At the time prayers seemed like a waste of time, and did not seem to work. It came across to me as wishful thinking, and maybe a good foundation to go by. Even for the nonbelievers.

It was in college when I became Agnostic and flirting being being an Atheist. After college I did never declare it, but I was an Atheist. That was over a period of a decade.

So to get to your question. Yes I was attacked multiple times by demons over that same decade when I was a non believer. I was attacked usually in my sleep. These demons tried to kill and scare me. I was physically attacked and woke up with scratches. Furthermore, these demons would throw thinks around, open and slam doors over and over, playing with the blinds in my home and even throwing things across the room. It was pretty crazy. Haha!

What saved me was real heartfelt prayer a couple times even as a non believer I did it because briefly I was scared. Other Atheists that I lived witnessed some of the paranormal activity, and even my sister who thought I was making it up. When I mentioned to her, really did not want to because I did not want her to think I was crazy. She did not believe me until she was introduced later that night by herself. She was so freaked out that she left the next day. This was when my sister not believer too.

Anyhow, I know this sounds like B.S. or misunderstood. To be honest I would think so too if I read this. The only way you are converted is when you experience it first hand. Oh and It is clear as the day.

I can tell you this. It all began after I used a Ouija Board in college with my girlfriend at the time. I thought it was all bull shit, and thought she even faked what happened. I can say that is when it started.

Anyhow, God let me know he was real staring in 2002, but I really did not become a true believer until about 2008. I did surrender to Jesus Christ as the Bible says, and did it in the middle of the night when no one was around. Ever since then things have certainly changed for the better. This does not mean everything has been perfect, but a lot better for sure.

Of course there are demons, I'm married to one unfortunately...

Yes, they are real, they are called the DemonRATs!

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They do exist and you are susceptible to their possession unless you have JESUS CHRIST as your Lord and Savior as I do.

Exorcisms are real.

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