Godlike Productions - Discussion Forum
Users Online Now: 2,263 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 576,769
Pageviews Today: 966,589Threads Today: 325Posts Today: 5,891
11:15 AM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

DO WE AS THE BRIDE OF CHRIST GO TO HEAVEN??? IS THE GOVERNMENT (KINGDOM) OF GOD IN HEAVEN OR ON EARTH???

 
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 78424115
Australia
02/02/2020 12:30 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
DO WE AS THE BRIDE OF CHRIST GO TO HEAVEN??? IS THE GOVERNMENT (KINGDOM) OF GOD IN HEAVEN OR ON EARTH???
According to a prominent strand of Christian teaching, believers in Jesus are awaiting a future in which they will be transported to heaven in an event known as “the Rapture.” The most popular biblical passage used to support this view is Paul’s eschatological discourse in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17. Despite common interpretations of this text in terms of an end-time elevation from the earth, the apostle does not describe a “rapture” out of our world. To the contrary, rather than describing believers being herded to heaven, Paul details events that will occur on this earth in tandem with the Messiah’s second coming.

In his presentation of the Parousia, Paul declares, “The Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God, and the dead in Messiah will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up (ἁρπάζω; harpadzo) with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord” (4:16-17). While some read a “rapture” into these verses, Paul’s language and context argue against such a reading. First, among the Greeks of Paul’s day, “caught up” (ἁρπάζω; harpadzo) was used as a euphemism for an untimely death (see Plutarch, Letter to Apollonius 111C-D, 117B); the apostle repurposes ἁρπάζω, not as another word for death, but as a description of eternal life upon the Lord’s return.

Second, the context does not describe Jesus (or his followers) ascending to heaven, but rather coming down to earth on the “clouds” (νεφέλαις; nephelais​), which are common vehicles for divine visitation (e.g., Num 11:25; 12:5; Dan 7:13; Mk 13:26; Rev 10:1). Moreover, Paul’s reference to Yeshua arriving with the sound of a “trumpet” (σάλπιγξ; sálpigx) recalls the shofar blast that accompanied God’s descent onto Sinai: “As the sound of the trumpet (שׁופר; shofar/σά&#9​55;πιγξ; sálpigx [LXX]) grew louder… the Lord came down onto Mount Sinai, to the top of the mountain” (Exod 19:19). Once God alighted on this earth, “the Lord called Moses to the top of the mountain, and Moses went up” (19:20). Just as Moses goes up to meet the Lord in the rarified air of the mountaintop, Paul asserts that believers will meet the descending Lord in the “air” (ἀήρ; aér)—not in a rapture to “heaven” (οὐρανός; ouran​ós).

Finally, just as Moses eventually comes back down the mountain (see Exod 19:25), those who meet the Messiah in the air will also come back down to this earth. Paul’s picture is of an emperor on his way back from a military campaign: in the ancient Roman world, victorious emperors would return to the capital along with a massive train of foreign prisoners, wealth, and other spoils of war. On hearing of the emperor’s return, the Roman citizens would meet their triumphant leader along the way and follow him back into the city as part of the celebratory procession. Paul envisions a similar scenario at Jesus’ second coming: The Messiah will begin his descent on the clouds and his followers will meet him at a midway point in the air so that they can follow their conquering King back down to this earth.

Although it is common in certain Christian circles to read a “rapture” into 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17, this conclusion does not account for Paul’s literary and cultural contexts. Instead of describing a portal to heaven, the apostle offers a window into the eternal life that comes with the resurrection of the dead and Jesus’ everlasting reign in the Kingdom of God.


Question: "What is the marriage supper of the Lamb?"

Answer: In his vision in Revelation 19:7–10, John saw and heard the heavenly multitudes praising God because the wedding feast of the Lamb—literally, the “marriage supper”—was about to begin. The concept of the marriage supper is better understood in light of the wedding customs in the time of Christ.

These wedding customs had three major parts. First, a marriage contract was signed by the parents of the bride and the bridegroom, and the parents of the bridegroom or the bridegroom himself would pay a dowry to the bride or her parents. This began what was called the betrothal period—what we would today call the engagement. This period was the one Joseph and Mary were in when she was found to be with child (Matthew 1:18; Luke 2:5).

The second step in the process usually occurred a year later, when the bridegroom, accompanied by his male friends, went to the house of the bride at midnight, creating a torchlight parade through the streets. The bride would know in advance this was going to take place, and so she would be ready with her maidens, and they would all join the parade and end up at the bridegroom’s home. This custom is the basis of the parable of the ten virgins in Matthew 25:1–13. The third phase was the marriage supper itself, which might go on for days, as illustrated by the wedding at Cana in John 2:1–2.

What John’s vision in Revelation pictures is the wedding feast of the Lamb (Jesus Christ) and His bride (the Church) in its third phase. The implication is that the first two phases have already taken place. The first phase was completed on earth when each individual believer placed his or her faith in Christ as Savior. The dowry paid to the bridegroom’s parent (God the Father) would be the blood of Christ shed on the Bride’s behalf. The Church on earth today, then, is “betrothed” to Christ, and, like the wise virgins in the parable, all believers should be watching and waiting for the appearance of the Bridegroom (the rapture). The second phase symbolizes the rapture of the Church, when Christ comes to claim His bride and take her to the AIR!!!

The marriage supper then follows as the third and final step.
WERE IS THE MARRIAGE???
In the heaven...
On earth...
In the sky...
I DO NOT KNOW!!!

BUT WE DO KNOW WE COME BACK DOWN...

1. NEW JERUSALEM COMES DOWN...
2. TENT OF GOD IS WITH MANKIND...
3. KINGS WILL REIGN ON THE EARTH...
4. THE STONE THAT GOD CUT OUT FILLS THE WHOLE EARTH NOT HEAVEN...
5. JESUS PRESENCE IS ON THE EARTH HE WILL DRINK WINE WITH US...
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 78424115
Australia
02/02/2020 12:33 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: DO WE AS THE BRIDE OF CHRIST GO TO HEAVEN??? IS THE GOVERNMENT (KINGDOM) OF GOD IN HEAVEN OR ON EARTH???
WHAT IS THE KINGDOM OF GOD???

ANSWER: The Kingdom of God is a real Government God's Government.
DANIEL 2:34-45


WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF GOD'S GOVERNMENT???

ANSWER: God's Government will smash crush all manmade Governments and takeover rulership of the earth... One global Government under God not man.
DANIEL 2:34-45
REVELATION 19:17-21


WILL GOD'S GOVERNMENT BE LOCATED ON EARTH OR IN HEAVEN???

ANSWER: God's Government will be located on earth.
DANIEL 2:34-45
REVELATION 5:9-10
REVELATION 20:7-10
REVELATION 21:1-4
REVELATION 21:10


DOES GOD'S GOVERNMENT HAVE A KING???

ANSWER: The King of God's Government is Jesus Christ (Yeshua).
ISAIAH 9:6-7
ISAIAH 32:1-2
REVELATION 17:14


DOES GOD'S GOVERNMENT HAVE ONLY ONE KING???

ANSWER: No!!! There are others invited and chosen to be Kings... And they will rule with Jesus Christ (Yeshua) in God's Government.
ISAIAH 32:1-2
1PETER 2:9
REVELATION 5:9-10
REVELATION 17:14
REVELATION 20:4-6


WHO ARE THESE OTHER KINGS???

ANSWER: Jesus Christ (Yeshua) has purchased with his blood:

(((CHRISTIANS)))

These ones are purchased out of every tribe race and nation to be Kings in God's Kingdom.
1PETER 2:9
REVELATION 5:9-10
REVELATION 20:4-6
MATHEW 7:21-23
MATHEW 7:13-14


WHAT WILL THESE KINGS BE LIKE???

ANSWER:
They will not be haughty.
They will not be proud.
They will not be arrogant.
They will not be opinionated.
They will put on Christs personality.
They will serve not be served.
They will make you feel superior.
They will be humble.

MATHEW 18:1-5
ISAIAH 32:1-2
PHILIPPIANS 2:3


WHAT WILL GOD'S GOVERNMENT DO AFTER ALL HUMAN GOVERNMENTS ARE REMOVED???

ANSWER: The dead will be ressurected and they will be judged by God's Kingdom.
JOHN 5:28-29
ACTS 24:15
REVELATION 20:12-13
REVELATION 20:4


WHY FOLLOW, IMITATE AND PUT FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST (YESHUA)???
1Corinthians 2:9... “No eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no mind has imagined what God has prepared for those who love him.


WHY MUST WE LEARN THE COMMANDS OF JESUS CHRIST (YESHUA)???
MATHEW 7:21 Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’
23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’
REVELATION 1:3 Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear and obey what is written in it, because the time is near.


WE MUST REMEMBER JESUS CHRIST (YESHUA)
1 COR 11:23 For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you: that the Lord Jesus, on the night He was betrayed, took bread, 24 and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “This is My body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” 25 In the same way, after supper He took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood; do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.” 26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until He comes.


WE CAN INHERIT THE KINGDOM BECOME KINGS AND PRIESTS THROUGH OUR FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST (YESHUA)
REV 1:5 and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.
To Him who loves us and has released us from our sins by His blood, 6 who has (((made us to be a kingdom))), priests to His God and Father—to Him be the glory and power forever and ever! Amen.


Through our faith in Jesus Christ (Yeshua) we are released from our sins... And we are invited to become a King and Priest with Jesus Christ (Yeshua) in this Government.

EMAIL ME... TO DISCUSS FURTHER:
[email protected]

COME INHERIT THE KINGDOM!!!
COME INHERIT THE KINGDOM!!!
COME INHERIT THE KINGDOM!!!





GLP