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Pandemics.. a cautionary tale... stay away from hospitals...

 
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Pandemics.. a cautionary tale... stay away from hospitals...
I was cautioned not to write this, so I thought, fuck it I'll put it here anyway...

1. Stay away from hospitals...Do NOT turn up if slightly ill... your guess would be as good as mine.. you may be dying, or or may have the normal flu.. either way it is exposure, and they will be inundated and unable to treat you. and if you are not dying from deadly shit? you may be after leaving

2. I wrote the pandamic control room software for western australia in 2008.

this is what we learned....

the same thing the chinese are suffering...

if you cannot source public transport? the whole system fails.. i know.. i wrote one....

here is why you DO NOT go to a hospital during a pandamic...

1. they assemble a bunch of people to attend to the crisis control staging room, hospital full lock down, with all the high hats... (which i was there during the test stage)... we blew up perth airport and our main hospital (all exercise of course to see how it was dealt with)

Deadre Tame was a student of mine and was the pandamic control officer for western australia, which is how i became familiar with it all and developed their instantaneous system.... ( before that is was if at best text, fax, email and phone calls)

2. the people assembled are professionals, but have no idea as to a pandemic as they have never been there....

3. Rooms/ wards/ floors in hospitals are evacuated dependent upon your medical crisis ie:.. dependent upon ambiliatory process and sickness/ condition?.. you are staged, and removed. Making the bed available for the most infirmed.

4. The whole sequence failed without requisitioning all public transport.
_________________________________________________

That said?

Water and food.......

and here's the biggy?..... if you need medication for pain and etc?... stock whilst you can..... not a bad idea in any case....

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Re: Pandemics.. a cautionary tale... stay away from hospitals...
Tell us more. Some of that was unclear. What was the point you were trying to make on the staging?
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Gave you some green and pin request.

I noticed that the hospital they MIRACULOUSLY built so QUICKLY had BARS on the windows!!!

Thread: Huoshenshan Hospital completed, but why the BARS on the windows?
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Tell us more. Some of that was unclear. What was the point you were trying to make on the staging?
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Likely another word for triaged. If you are severely I'll and likely to die, you may not be moved or moved to a facility closer to the mass graves or cremation effort. Likely to survive maybe you go to an outdoor tent facility run by volunteers. Different needs to different locations.

Something China is having issues with via rumor is the removal of dead bodies. They don't have enough ambulances so they enlisted taxi drivers to aid in the effort. Problem is this takes away from transporting the elderly or critically ill.
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Tell us more. Some of that was unclear. What was the point you were trying to make on the staging?
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staging is easy:

prioritization:

think walking wounded = sent home

non-ambular? put in a bus or taxi

then go from there.....

i was warned not to write this, but.. there you go

i can also be affirmed by many here.....

i'm not trying to scare anyone, but just to share what i know...

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You wrote a paper on a subject you can’t even spell correctly??


Wat?
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You wrote a paper on a subject you can’t even spell correctly??


Wat?
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thanks.. duly noted....

you spelled what wat?

go eat a hot pocket.. big people are talking about serious issues...

idiot....

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Re: Pandemics.. a cautionary tale... stay away from hospitals...
I was cautioned not to write this, so I thought, fuckit I'll put it here...

1. Stay away from hospitals...

2. I wrote the pandamic control room software for western australia in 2008.

this is what we learned....

the same thing the chinese are suffering...

if you cannot source public transport? the whole system fails.. i know.. i wrote one....

here is why you DO NOT go to a hospital during a pandamic...

1. they assemble a bunch of people to attend to the crisis control staging room, hospital full lock down, with all the high hats... (which i was there during the test stage)... we blew up perth airport and our main hospital (all exercise of course to see how it was dealt with)

Deadre Tame was a student of mine and was the pandamic control officer for western australia, which is how i became familiar with it all and developed their instantaneous system.... ( before that is was if at best text, fax, email and phone calls)

2. the people assembled are professionals, but have no idea as to a pandemic as they have never been there....

3. Rooms are evacuated.. dependent upon ambiliatory process?.. you are staged, and removed. Making the bed available for the most infirmed.

4. The whole sequence failed without requisitioning all public transport.

5. Do NOT turn up if slightly ill... your guess would be as good as mine.. you may be dying, or or may have the normal flu.. either way it is exposure, and they will be inundated and unable to treat you. and if you are not dying from deadly shit? you may be after leaving

_________________________________________________

That said?

Water and food.......

and here's the biggy?..... if you need medication for pain and etc?... stock whilst you can..... not a bad idea in any case....
 Quoting: CitizenPerth



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that's all cool man... until it happens......

like i said.. maybe it will, maybe it wont.... but it's not looking good right now.. agree?

you look like charlie?

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Yeah that's my take. If you have it, you're going to die anyway. Why risk going to a hospital and catching it?
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Yeah that's my take. If you have it, you're going to die anyway. Why risk going to a hospital and catching it?
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Or rather I should say, if you have it, they can't do anything anyway.
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Yeah that's my take. If you have it, you're going to die anyway. Why risk going to a hospital and catching it?
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Or rather I should say, if you have it, they can't do anything anyway.
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my take? that was probably their purpose....
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I work at a hospital. How screwed am I?
It’s on an army base at least..
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Tell us more. Some of that was unclear. What was the point you were trying to make on the staging?
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staging is easy:

prioritization:

thing walking wounded = sent home

non-ambular? put in a bus or taxi

then go from there.....

i was warned not to write this, but.. there you go

i can also be affirmed by many here.....

i'm not trying to scare anyone, but just to share what i know...
 Quoting: CitizenPerth


sorry if my opinion will come as an attack to you but

1# you arent saying anything new...from "if you want to catch anything go to the hospital" to the most common catastrophic experience of people reaching the ERs.

2# maybe you are a better coder but your way to communicate things is quite messy.

3# a bit less narcisism will help.

4# yes stay away from hospitals.
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I work supply chain at a hospital. The coming times should be interesting, if for no other reason than the JIT disruption from China. I'll be there until I am unable, I can do foodservice and nursing assistant if pressed into service. This is what I do.
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1. Stay away from hospitals...

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But here's a flip side to this. What is the antiviral medication works better the sooner you start it

What if you don't goto hospital and then end up not getting any antiviral meds and instead end up dead.

Also, it's hard to know just how sick you are. When I was sick with a viral infection my red blood cells were not carrying enough oxygen and I just figured not being able to breath was just a normal part of being sick.
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WILL BEER STILL BE AVAILABLE IF
YOU STAY HOME AWAY FROM THE
STAGING AREA. WILL ALDI STILL SELL
CHEAP BEER AND PANADIL. PLEASE
ANSWER. BEER IS BEER!!!!!!!1!
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I CAN GOT BEER FROM NIMBIN IF I GO TO LISMORE
BUT NOT IN QLD COZ THEY DONT SELL ALCOHOL
IN QLD. DOES WA SELL ALDU BEER. STORM BEER FROM NEW ZEALAND. PLEASE HELP
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Re: Pandemics.. a cautionary tale... stay away from hospitals...
I was cautioned not to write this, so I thought, fuckit I'll put it here...

1. Stay away from hospitals...

2. I wrote the pandamic control room software for western australia in 2008.

this is what we learned....

the same thing the chinese are suffering...

if you cannot source public transport? the whole system fails.. i know.. i wrote one....

here is why you DO NOT go to a hospital during a pandamic...

1. they assemble a bunch of people to attend to the crisis control staging room, hospital full lock down, with all the high hats... (which i was there during the test stage)... we blew up perth airport and our main hospital (all exercise of course to see how it was dealt with)

Deadre Tame was a student of mine and was the pandamic control officer for western australia, which is how i became familiar with it all and developed their instantaneous system.... ( before that is was if at best text, fax, email and phone calls)

2. the people assembled are professionals, but have no idea as to a pandemic as they have never been there....

3. Rooms are evacuated.. dependent upon ambiliatory process?.. you are staged, and removed. Making the bed available for the most infirmed.

4. The whole sequence failed without requisitioning all public transport.

5. Do NOT turn up if slightly ill... your guess would be as good as mine.. you may be dying, or or may have the normal flu.. either way it is exposure, and they will be inundated and unable to treat you. and if you are not dying from deadly shit? you may be after leaving

_________________________________________________

That said?

Water and food.......

and here's the biggy?..... if you need medication for pain and etc?... stock whilst you can..... not a bad idea in any case....
 Quoting: CitizenPerth


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Pandamics? This like.. the study of pandemics?
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I CAN GOT BEER FROM NIMBIN IF I GO TO LISMORE
BUT NOT IN QLD COZ THEY DONT SELL ALCOHOL
IN QLD. DOES WA SELL ALDU BEER. STORM BEER FROM NEW ZEALAND. PLEASE HELP
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I CAN GOT BEER FROM NIMBIN IF I GO TO LISMORE
BUT NOT IN QLD COZ THEY DONT SELL ALCOHOL
IN QLD. DOES WA SELL ALDU BEER. STORM BEER FROM NEW ZEALAND. PLEASE HELP
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sheepsheepdasbiersheepsheepdasbiersheepsheep
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CHEERS MATE. WATCH THOSE SHEEP AYE BRO


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Drat. And I was about to go for fun to look at all the sick people. Does wonders for my self esteem.
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I CAN GOT BEER FROM NIMBIN IF I GO TO LISMORE
BUT NOT IN QLD COZ THEY DONT SELL ALCOHOL
IN QLD. DOES WA SELL ALDU BEER. STORM BEER FROM NEW ZEALAND. PLEASE HELP
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sheepsheepdasbiersheepsheepdasbiersheepsheep
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CHEERS MATE. WATCH THOSE SHEEP AYE BRO


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sheep BAAAH!!
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I CAN GOT BEER FROM NIMBIN IF I GO TO LISMORE
BUT NOT IN QLD COZ THEY DONT SELL ALCOHOL
IN QLD. DOES WA SELL ALDU BEER. STORM BEER FROM NEW ZEALAND. PLEASE HELP
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sheepsheepdasbiersheepsheepdasbiersheepsheep
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CHEERS MATE. WATCH THOSE SHEEP AYE BRO


sheepsheepdasbiersheepsheepdasbiersheepsheep
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sheep BAAAH!!
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jest whilst we can!...... may as well if it is as fucked as it seems to be......

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American doctors and nurses don't have what it takes to work a pandemic. The majority will walk out as soon as things get difficult.
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You wrote a paper on a subject you can’t even spell correctly??


Wat?
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Thought that was odd myself.
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Good call.

Unless it's a gun shot wound don't go.

I wonder how the new medical centers we have all over the U.S. now will fare... and at what point they will shutter and close operations.

I go to them for simple shit to avoid the antibiotic resistant bacteria that have strengthened in the older-bigger hospitals over the decades.

Newer building, less time for the bacteria to mutate/strengthen.
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