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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78407389 United Kingdom 02/02/2020 03:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well the official guidance has been to self isolate and stay at home but what self interested self justifying arsehole cares for other people before themselves in this world off they trot with their sniffles on public transport , taxis and even ambulances - especially the brits - instagramming their drama and updating their fb page all the way self centred shallow aresholes deserve what they get it's just the rest of us who don't |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66751594 United States 02/02/2020 03:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tell us more. Some of that was unclear. What was the point you were trying to make on the staging? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53652834 staging is easy: prioritization: thing walking wounded = sent home non-ambular? put in a bus or taxi then go from there..... i was warned not to write this, but.. there you go i can also be affirmed by many here..... i'm not trying to scare anyone, but just to share what i know... this is good info, I think the signs are pretty obvious this Virus is Aerosol transmission in certain mutations within patients , making them super spreaders. They have been welding folks into dwellings, full hazmat gear, the eye being able to catch it comment, im very nervous about what places like NYC and Other high density populated areas may look like |
oniongrass
User ID: 78406759 United States 02/02/2020 03:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good call. Quoting: BFD Unless it's a gun shot wound don't go. I wonder how the new medical centers we have all over the U.S. now will fare... and at what point they will shutter and close operations. I go to them for simple shit to avoid the antibiotic resistant bacteria that have strengthened in the older-bigger hospitals over the decades. Newer building, less time for the bacteria to mutate/strengthen. Obama did his best to shut them down, with Obamacare giving much better reimbursements to big city hospitals over small outlying ones. No reason, besides he wanted to kill small local healthcare. . DON'T VAX, PROPHYLAX! ____________ There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire. But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5) |
oniongrass
User ID: 78406759 United States 02/02/2020 03:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some health insurance covers "telemedicine", you remotely consult with a doctor or nurse practitioner over videoconference, and they can prescribe drugs that way, and you don't have to meet in person. . DON'T VAX, PROPHYLAX! ____________ There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire. But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78181853 United States 02/02/2020 03:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some health insurance covers "telemedicine", you remotely consult with a doctor or nurse practitioner over videoconference, and they can prescribe drugs that way, and you don't have to meet in person. Quoting: oniongrass Most doctors barely look up from their iPads during a visit anyways so what's the point of face-to-face? |
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User ID: 78406759 United States 02/02/2020 04:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some health insurance covers "telemedicine", you remotely consult with a doctor or nurse practitioner over videoconference, and they can prescribe drugs that way, and you don't have to meet in person. Quoting: oniongrass Most doctors barely look up from their iPads during a visit anyways so what's the point of face-to-face? One rather tragic mistake they made in Wuhan was that when they realized they had to do something about this, they gathered all the top doctors in town together for an emergency conference. Well guess what, they all got infected from that meeting and many died. Now they don't have their top doctors any more. They should have had a videoconference! . DON'T VAX, PROPHYLAX! ____________ There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire. But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5) |
~Bodhi User ID: 77930780 United States 02/02/2020 04:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How does this low iq schizo liar have full green karma and another pinned thread? This is why glp sucks now. Thus guy should be banned not promoted Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77780347 Tepco go home... Honestly, if we are all going to die, I haven't told enough people who are clearly assholes to fuck off. You are my first!!! Fuck off!! This is actually good info. Unless you work for those trying to suppress information. Thanks OP!! |
The Lone Ranger NZ
User ID: 78143201 New Zealand 02/02/2020 04:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some health insurance covers "telemedicine", you remotely consult with a doctor or nurse practitioner over videoconference, and they can prescribe drugs that way, and you don't have to meet in person. Quoting: oniongrass Most doctors barely look up from their iPads during a visit anyways so what's the point of face-to-face? One rather tragic mistake they made in Wuhan was that when they realized they had to do something about this, they gathered all the top doctors in town together for an emergency conference. Well guess what, they all got infected from that meeting and many died. Now they don't have their top doctors any more. They should have had a videoconference! Really? Well that was a pretty dumb move on their part then. Tells me that they did not know or fully understand what they were really dealing with at the time they had their emergency conference. And obviously they did not take any serious precautions to protect themselves individually. The Lone Ranger “Time is free, but it's priceless. You can't own it, but you can use it. You can't keep it, but you can spend it. Once you've lost it you can never get it back.” Harvey MacKay. |
Katipo2017
User ID: 62725567 New Zealand 02/02/2020 04:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tell us more. Some of that was unclear. What was the point you were trying to make on the staging? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53652834 Likely another word for triaged. If you are severely I'll and likely to die, you may not be moved or moved to a facility closer to the mass graves or cremation effort. Likely to survive maybe you go to an outdoor tent facility run by volunteers. Different needs to different locations. Something China is having issues with via rumor is the removal of dead bodies. They don't have enough ambulances so they enlisted taxi drivers to aid in the effort. Problem is this takes away from transporting the elderly or critically ill. How is a dead person supposed to hail a taxi? Any sarcasm in this post is purely intentional. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78033056 United States 02/02/2020 04:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was cautioned not to write this, so I thought, fuckit I'll put it here... Quoting: CitizenPerth 1. Stay away from hospitals... 2. I wrote the pandamic control room software for western australia in 2008. this is what we learned.... the same thing the chinese are suffering... if you cannot source public transport? the whole system fails.. i know.. i wrote one.... here is why you DO NOT go to a hospital during a pandamic... 1. they assemble a bunch of people to attend to the crisis control staging room, hospital full lock down, with all the high hats... (which i was there during the test stage)... we blew up perth airport and our main hospital (all exercise of course to see how it was dealt with) Deadre Tame was a student of mine and was the pandamic control officer for western australia, which is how i became familiar with it all and developed their instantaneous system.... ( before that is was if at best text, fax, email and phone calls) 2. the people assembled are professionals, but have no idea as to a pandemic as they have never been there.... 3. Rooms are evacuated.. dependent upon ambiliatory process?.. you are staged, and removed. Making the bed available for the most infirmed. 4. The whole sequence failed without requisitioning all public transport. 5. Do NOT turn up if slightly ill... your guess would be as good as mine.. you may be dying, or or may have the normal flu.. either way it is exposure, and they will be inundated and unable to treat you. and if you are not dying from deadly shit? you may be after leaving _________________________________________________ That said? Water and food....... and here's the biggy?..... if you need medication for pain and etc?... stock whilst you can..... not a bad idea in any case.... What I might be concerned about is pandemics. I don't give a shit about panda economics. |
ThirstyMarlin
User ID: 78110098 United States 02/02/2020 05:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | American doctors and nurses don't have what it takes to work a pandemic. The majority will walk out as soon as things get difficult. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53208674 Oh you are so full of shit troll. And (AC) you are half-full of shit. Maybe in Australia, where your medical system is not as advanced as the United States, this is the scenario to expect. But let's get a few things clear here. First, the US is not Australia. That said, in the US the doctors and nurses who work in our hospitals are pretty hard core. They work with diseased, ill, and injured people all the time. Because the US has such a large military, many former military medical now work in civilian hospitals. Also, US hospitals have been equipped for NBC (Nuclear, Biological, Chemical) warfare since the 1950's. After 9-11 these efforts were tripled, and plenty of equipment is in storage under the direction of FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Association). The reason doctors and medical staff rarely get sick is because they are around germs all the time. Therefore, they have very robust immune systems, and they can handle the new (or novel) viruses and bacteria. It makes sense to walk into a hospital whenever you have the opportunity just to pick up a low dose of whatever is in the air. It's like getting a small dose vaccination without all the poison they put into an actual vaccine shot. A pandemic will come to the US, and this Coronavirus will probably kill many elderly just as the flu does every flu season. But China is still not a first world nation. Their medical capacity fails miserably compared to what the US can handle. Also, the US simply has a much greater capacity to handle such an epidemic, and much more experience, knowledge, talent, skills, and resources. I'm sorry Australia, but you should be more concerned about your country buring to the ground right now. California caught fire, and we put our fires out with massive resources, heroic effort, and tons of resources. Unfortunetly, Australia simply does not have such resources our the vast and seemingly endless supply of capital to pay for such emergencies as the US can muster up. Finally, the US will weather this storm just fine, as we do all storms. We can take a hit. We are 350 million people strong, from the most diverse genetic population in the world. We survive hurricanes, fires, tornadoes, blizzards, blackouts, etc., We will survive Coronavirus just fine. If this were a real biological weapon...we'd all be dead by now! Last Edited by ThirstyMarlin! on 02/02/2020 05:13 AM Marlin! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78424368 Australia 02/02/2020 06:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well the official guidance has been to self isolate and stay at home Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78407389 but what self interested self justifying arsehole cares for other people before themselves in this world off they trot with their sniffles on public transport , taxis and even ambulances - especially the brits - instagramming their drama and updating their fb page all the way self centred shallow aresholes deserve what they get it's just the rest of us who don't Yup and the poor innocent Animals. Such horrific times. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78101866 United States 02/02/2020 06:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm with you OP. In a pandemic, the receiving section of a hospital is the deadliest place on Earth. It becomes a vector for spreading contagion. If a hospital sets up multiple triages OUTSIDE the emergency room to contain infection, then they've got their shit together. Few if any will have such contingency plans. One thing I wish America copied from India's Ayurvedic medicine is the notion of teardowns on hospitals - periodically replacing entire buildings (low cost modular structures). Deadly & dangerous microorganism colonize brick & mortar hospitals. Getting secondary infections from hospital visits is a massive problem - the older the hospital, the more deadly it becomes. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78407389 United Kingdom 02/02/2020 07:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some health insurance covers "telemedicine", you remotely consult with a doctor or nurse practitioner over videoconference, and they can prescribe drugs that way, and you don't have to meet in person. Quoting: oniongrass Most doctors barely look up from their iPads during a visit anyways so what's the point of face-to-face? I would suggest that's because they are thoroughly bored of all the non medicine which waddles in their door all day long looking to be told that being fat and idle and shallow isn't the source of all their issues can't fix stupid , idle or lazy so why lift your eyes when the problem is busy blaming everybody for their choices sorry but sick of doctor bashing from some of the unhealthiest people on the planet :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67564836 Canada 02/02/2020 07:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi, Perth! Have you watched the videos by the lawyer Chen Qiushi in Wuhan? Basically he is saying the same thing as you - a visit to the hospital achieves nothing, and you expose yourself to infection. There appears to be insufficient transport to take patients to hospital and to remove the bodies from various locations for disposal. |
Baldrick
User ID: 76361566 Australia 02/02/2020 07:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | American doctors and nurses don't have what it takes to work a pandemic. The majority will walk out as soon as things get difficult. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53208674 Oh you are so full of shit troll. And (AC) you are half-full of shit. Maybe in Australia, where your medical system is not as advanced as the United States, this is the scenario to expect. But let's get a few things clear here. First, the US is not Australia. That said, in the US the doctors and nurses who work in our hospitals are pretty hard core. They work with diseased, ill, and injured people all the time. Because the US has such a large military, many former military medical now work in civilian hospitals. Also, US hospitals have been equipped for NBC (Nuclear, Biological, Chemical) warfare since the 1950's. After 9-11 these efforts were tripled, and plenty of equipment is in storage under the direction of FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Association). The reason doctors and medical staff rarely get sick is because they are around germs all the time. Therefore, they have very robust immune systems, and they can handle the new (or novel) viruses and bacteria. It makes sense to walk into a hospital whenever you have the opportunity just to pick up a low dose of whatever is in the air. It's like getting a small dose vaccination without all the poison they put into an actual vaccine shot. A pandemic will come to the US, and this Coronavirus will probably kill many elderly just as the flu does every flu season. But China is still not a first world nation. Their medical capacity fails miserably compared to what the US can handle. Also, the US simply has a much greater capacity to handle such an epidemic, and much more experience, knowledge, talent, skills, and resources. I'm sorry Australia, but you should be more concerned about your country buring to the ground right now. California caught fire, and we put our fires out with massive resources, heroic effort, and tons of resources. Unfortunetly, Australia simply does not have such resources our the vast and seemingly endless supply of capital to pay for such emergencies as the US can muster up. Finally, the US will weather this storm just fine, as we do all storms. We can take a hit. We are 350 million people strong, from the most diverse genetic population in the world. We survive hurricanes, fires, tornadoes, blizzards, blackouts, etc., We will survive Coronavirus just fine. If this were a real biological weapon...we'd all be dead by now! Read your whole post. Just one of many misconception from which you suffer: US bushires: 766,000 hectares Au bushfires: 6.3 million hectares Amazon fires: 100,000 hectares And just like your guys came to assist, we came to assist the US as well. A number of other assertions you make are so far along with head up arse syndrome its not worth mentioning. Enjoy your wake up call because its coming, and the arrogant wont see it coming. Last Edited by Baldrick on 02/02/2020 07:22 AM Blackadder: Baldrick, how did you manage to find a turnip that cost £400 000? Baldrick: Well, I had to haggle. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71124074 United Kingdom 02/02/2020 07:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But here's a flip side to this. What is the antiviral medication works better the sooner you start it What if you don't goto hospital and then end up not getting any antiviral meds and instead end up dead. My info might be wrong, but I heard that China was treating this with antivirals but it didn't really help. But let's say it does help. Given the expense of anti-virals, how many people would get them? Progressive socialist Canada doesn't even give antivirals to HIV sufferers if they are over the age of 24. |
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User ID: 77606505 Australia 02/02/2020 07:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was cautioned not to write this, so I thought, fuckit I'll put it here... Quoting: CitizenPerth 1. Stay away from hospitals... 2. I wrote the pandamic control room software for western australia in 2008. this is what we learned.... the same thing the chinese are suffering... if you cannot source public transport? the whole system fails.. i know.. i wrote one.... here is why you DO NOT go to a hospital during a pandamic... 1. they assemble a bunch of people to attend to the crisis control staging room, hospital full lock down, with all the high hats... (which i was there during the test stage)... we blew up perth airport and our main hospital (all exercise of course to see how it was dealt with) Deadre Tame was a student of mine and was the pandamic control officer for western australia, which is how i became familiar with it all and developed their instantaneous system.... ( before that is was if at best text, fax, email and phone calls) 2. the people assembled are professionals, but have no idea as to a pandemic as they have never been there.... 3. Rooms are evacuated.. dependent upon ambiliatory process?.. you are staged, and removed. Making the bed available for the most infirmed. 4. The whole sequence failed without requisitioning all public transport. 5. Do NOT turn up if slightly ill... your guess would be as good as mine.. you may be dying, or or may have the normal flu.. either way it is exposure, and they will be inundated and unable to treat you. and if you are not dying from deadly shit? you may be after leaving _________________________________________________ That said? Water and food....... and here's the biggy?..... if you need medication for pain and etc?... stock whilst you can..... not a bad idea in any case.... Go home CP, you're drunk. |
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