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User ID: 1392717 United States 02/02/2020 08:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thx for your post, OP. I think what some of us here are trackin' along is admitting the big elephant in the room right now regardless of man-made bio-weaponized doom or not is the fact that very soon in our near future hospitals will be Ground Zero for point-of-origins for so many 'super bugs' that none of our existing antibiotics will touch 'em. Med professionals have been talking about this for a while. And given that one of the big gravy trains for big pharma is ensuring all those drs write 'scripts for whatever antibiotic de jour is on the menu, we now see the average person w/ waaay more antibiotics use that before resulting in gawd knows what. And thought struggles against the results, trying to avoid those unpleasant results while keeping on with that way of thinking. That is what I call 'sustained incoherence.' ...David Bohm “How, O Zenobia, hast thou dared to insult Roman emperors?” ...Aurelian, 44th Emperor of the Roman Empire |
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User ID: 72164911 United States 02/02/2020 08:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tell us more. Some of that was unclear. What was the point you were trying to make on the staging? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53652834 Likely another word for triaged. If you are severely I'll and likely to die, you may not be moved or moved to a facility closer to the mass graves or cremation effort. Likely to survive maybe you go to an outdoor tent facility run by volunteers. Different needs to different locations. Something China is having issues with via rumor is the removal of dead bodies. They don't have enough ambulances so they enlisted taxi drivers to aid in the effort. Problem is this takes away from transporting the elderly or critically ill. How is a dead person supposed to hail a taxi? They don't, but the corpse's family or neighbors can report it in. There are also community watch groups within different subneighborhood units. A lot of people blindly report to them their illness or in some cases I'm sure there are door to door checks every so often. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78377564 United States 02/02/2020 08:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I work at a hospital. How screwed am I? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73870151 It’s on an army base at least.. simply use common freekkin sense. gown and glove mask and eye protection,shoe covering like the OR keep work shoes at work.... change foot wear before entering yer own home and have all doing it as well. were you around when HIV AIDS first appeared ? haz mat was the fashion...... do the same. but what NONE are bothering to state is the "viability" OF this virus without a host or in plain english--how long does IT live outside on surfaces/droplets/--what temperature kills it or slows down transmission--do those "blue lights" destroy it ?? etc WHY ? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76984449 United States 02/02/2020 09:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some health insurance covers "telemedicine", you remotely consult with a doctor or nurse practitioner over videoconference, and they can prescribe drugs that way, and you don't have to meet in person. Quoting: oniongrass Most doctors barely look up from their iPads during a visit anyways so what's the point of face-to-face? One rather tragic mistake they made in Wuhan was that when they realized they had to do something about this, they gathered all the top doctors in town together for an emergency conference. Well guess what, they all got infected from that meeting and many died. Now they don't have their top doctors any more. They should have had a videoconference! Exactly. |
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User ID: 78406759 United States 02/02/2020 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I work at a hospital. How screwed am I? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73870151 It’s on an army base at least.. simply use common freekkin sense. gown and glove mask and eye protection,shoe covering like the OR keep work shoes at work.... change foot wear before entering yer own home and have all doing it as well. were you around when HIV AIDS first appeared ? haz mat was the fashion...... do the same. but what NONE are bothering to state is the "viability" OF this virus without a host or in plain english--how long does IT live outside on surfaces/droplets/--what temperature kills it or slows down transmission--do those "blue lights" destroy it ?? etc WHY ? It survives very cold temps, but moderately high temps (under 60 C = 140 F iirc) can kill it. . DON'T VAX, PROPHYLAX! ____________ There is no anger in Me: If one offers Me thorns and thistles, I will march to battle against him, And set all of them on fire. But if he holds fast to My refuge, He makes Me his friend; He makes Me his friend. (Isaiah 27:4-5) |
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(OP) User ID: 78315427 Australia 02/02/2020 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How does this low iq schizo liar have full green karma and another pinned thread? This is why glp sucks now. Thus guy should be banned not promoted Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77780347 because you are an idiot... welcome... It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
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User ID: 78153434 United States 02/02/2020 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was cautioned not to write this, so I thought, fuckit I'll put it here... Quoting: CitizenPerth 1. Stay away from hospitals... 2. I wrote the pandamic control room software for western australia in 2008. this is what we learned.... the same thing the chinese are suffering... if you cannot source public transport? the whole system fails.. i know.. i wrote one.... here is why you DO NOT go to a hospital during a pandamic... 1. they assemble a bunch of people to attend to the crisis control staging room, hospital full lock down, with all the high hats... (which i was there during the test stage)... we blew up perth airport and our main hospital (all exercise of course to see how it was dealt with) Deadre Tame was a student of mine and was the pandamic control officer for western australia, which is how i became familiar with it all and developed their instantaneous system.... ( before that is was if at best text, fax, email and phone calls) 2. the people assembled are professionals, but have no idea as to a pandemic as they have never been there.... 3. Rooms are evacuated.. dependent upon ambiliatory process?.. you are staged, and removed. Making the bed available for the most infirmed. 4. The whole sequence failed without requisitioning all public transport. 5. Do NOT turn up if slightly ill... your guess would be as good as mine.. you may be dying, or or may have the normal flu.. either way it is exposure, and they will be inundated and unable to treat you. and if you are not dying from deadly shit? you may be after leaving _________________________________________________ That said? Water and food....... and here's the biggy?..... if you need medication for pain and etc?... stock whilst you can..... not a bad idea in any case.... How weird this is exactly what I was telling my family right now....how weird! God gave me some 'common sense'... Living has taught me one thing; nothing is certain...except salvation through Jesus Christ! |
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User ID: 77013656 United States 02/02/2020 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tell us more. Some of that was unclear. What was the point you were trying to make on the staging? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53652834 staging is easy: prioritization: thing walking wounded = sent home non-ambular? put in a bus or taxi then go from there..... i was warned not to write this, but.. there you go i can also be affirmed by many here..... i'm not trying to scare anyone, but just to share what i know... I got it Perth, I trust you. We posted a lot during Japanese nuclear meltdown. You're a brilliant person, I can see this. Man to man, can you lay it out as it is, no kid gloves. Give it to me straight, please. I would appreciate it. If not, thanks anyways. God bless and be well my friend. You really gave it good to Tepco for a while, lol. Last Edited by Nonentity on 02/02/2020 01:22 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31980412 Canada 02/02/2020 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tell us more. Some of that was unclear. What was the point you were trying to make on the staging? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53652834 Likely another word for triaged. If you are severely I'll and likely to die, you may not be moved or moved to a facility closer to the mass graves or cremation effort. Likely to survive maybe you go to an outdoor tent facility run by volunteers. Different needs to different locations. Something China is having issues with via rumor is the removal of dead bodies. They don't have enough ambulances so they enlisted taxi drivers to aid in the effort. Problem is this takes away from transporting the elderly or critically ill. How is a dead person supposed to hail a taxi? Back to the little table, son. The grownups are talking. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31980412 Canada 02/02/2020 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But here's a flip side to this. What is the antiviral medication works better the sooner you start it What if you don't goto hospital and then end up not getting any antiviral meds and instead end up dead. My info might be wrong, but I heard that China was treating this with antivirals but it didn't really help. But let's say it does help. Given the expense of anti-virals, how many people would get them? Progressive socialist Canada doesn't even give antivirals to HIV sufferers if they are over the age of 24. You must have stupid tatooded on your forehead! |
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User ID: 77940736 United States 02/02/2020 03:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | two things you need from hospitals in this: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78345706 1. oxygen 2. anti phlegm drugs - prescription If these could be gotten outside of hospital Sambucol is the BEST ANTI-PHLEGM treatment ever! O2 can be got from ur local Dr. "If you can't trust Bill Gates to protect your computer from a virus, how can you possibly take a vax from him?" Chris McDonald/Mark Taylor Death to ALL Baby Killers! I'm not CANADIAN, USA ALL THE WAY! If u need a summary of a 1 min. video climb back on the short bus! Need TP? [link to www.fastenal.com (secure)] |
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User ID: 19601203 Canada 02/02/2020 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | two things you need from hospitals in this: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78345706 1. oxygen 2. anti phlegm drugs - prescription If these could be gotten outside of hospital Sambucol is the BEST ANTI-PHLEGM treatment ever! O2 can be got from ur local Dr. I ordered an oxygen concentrator today.No rx req. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27716230 United States 02/02/2020 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can’t stay away from hospitals if you work at one. I was assigned to work, two days in a row, with a surgeon who had the flu. He admitted he had a fever, his head was full of snot, he was all sweaty, and he did not care that he was exposing everyone around him with his illness. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78031681 United States 02/02/2020 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The person who made this thread is terrible at communication. As others have said, his post makes no sense, and comes off as illiterate. What are trying to say OP? What is your point? Think about what you are trying to get across clearly, and try to articulate it. Are you simply saying not to go the hospital if you are infected? Why not? Are you saying its bad for OTHERS to do that, or bad for the INFECTED person? I'm not trying to be rude at all - just honest. You make no sense. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73870151 United States 02/02/2020 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I work at a hospital. How screwed am I? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73870151 It’s on an army base at least.. simply use common freekkin sense. gown and glove mask and eye protection,shoe covering like the OR keep work shoes at work.... change foot wear before entering yer own home and have all doing it as well. were you around when HIV AIDS first appeared ? haz mat was the fashion...... do the same. but what NONE are bothering to state is the "viability" OF this virus without a host or in plain english--how long does IT live outside on surfaces/droplets/--what temperature kills it or slows down transmission--do those "blue lights" destroy it ?? etc WHY ? I can’t really do most of that. I don’t really deal with patients directly though. Just lab stuff |
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(OP) User ID: 78315427 Australia 02/02/2020 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The person who made this thread is terrible at communication. As others have said, his post makes no sense, and comes off as illiterate. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78031681 What are trying to say OP? What is your point? Think about what you are trying to get across clearly, and try to articulate it. Are you simply saying not to go the hospital if you are infected? Why not? Are you saying its bad for OTHERS to do that, or bad for the INFECTED person? I'm not trying to be rude at all - just honest. You make no sense. how so? what do you need to read to make it clearer? It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
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User ID: 73265267 United States 02/02/2020 10:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But here's a flip side to this. What is the antiviral medication works better the sooner you start it What if you don't goto hospital and then end up not getting any antiviral meds and instead end up dead. Also, it's hard to know just how sick you are. When I was sick with a viral infection my red blood cells were not carrying enough oxygen and I just figured not being able to breath was just a normal part of being sick. I have huge blood spots all over my arm from sweeping out from under a chest of drawers with a hand wisk broom. It looks like I have over taken heparin or warfarin, when I am not on any blood thinner at all. I had to wear long sleeves to cover it while getting our taxes done, which is nothing unusual since I wear long sleeved year round. I was rather shocked at how thin my blood was though. The most precious things are the simple things in life, always present in the simplest of minds. |