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MEDICAL PREPS: Two lists. 1) prevention 2) when sick

 
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Zicam spray. Been using it for years. Zinc spray. No colds, no flu for years.
 Quoting: Billxam, ABATE, AWHA


Not saying it doesn't work, but homeopathic is hit and miss for a lot of people.

If one of my kids gets nCoV, I'm reaching for the items on my list first, and then supplement with something like Zicam.

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I use a colloidal silver nasal spray 2-3x daily because there is a lot of mold in my area. It definitely helps. My sinuses get clogged otherwise. Also take silver by the spoonful when I get sick. Just received colloidal silver lozenges. Haven’t tried them yet. 2-3 garlic stuffed olives daily too.

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Please help me add to these lists since I am sure we forgot things. This will likely be a bug-in event so you are only limited to cost and ability. Like I couldn't put in an IV for fluids but others can.

PREVENTION LIST
Vit C
Vit D
Elderberry
Zinc


ILLNESS LIST
Tylenol
Ibuprophen
Mucinex (Walmart has 15 tabs for .88cents)
Nyquil
vapor rub


MISC
Alcohol (I heard 70% and 91% are used for different things, can anyone comment)
Hydrogen Peroxide
hand sanitizer
gloves
masks
goggles
vaporizer
 Quoting: Ricky Retardo


stay the fuck off tylenol or ibuprophen didn't you lean anything?
 Quoting: Q33

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I have allergys and find that Peppermint Lifesavers work much better than Musinex and other products like it
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Please help me add to these lists since I am sure we forgot things. This will likely be a bug-in event so you are only limited to cost and ability. Like I couldn't put in an IV for fluids but others can.

PREVENTION LIST
Vit C
Vit D
Elderberry
Zinc


ILLNESS LIST
Tylenol
Ibuprophen
Mucinex (Walmart has 15 tabs for .88cents)
Nyquil
vapor rub


MISC
Alcohol (I heard 70% and 91% are used for different things, can anyone comment)
Hydrogen Peroxide
hand sanitizer
gloves
masks
goggles
vaporizer
 Quoting: Ricky Retardo


The reason is they damage the liver and a fever is important to kill the virus

stay the fuck off tylenol or ibuprophen didn't you lean anything?
 Quoting: Q33

 Quoting: stillhere


agree. Sunlight, infrared bulbs, kill plague and induce a fever but don't climb too high. Float around 102deg F. At 103 to 104deg F i would take one ibuprofen. Constantly monitor temp. 102deg to 103deg should kill everything except health body tissue. A small room like a bathroom shower, heater on high, inducing sweat is good. Even a camp fire gives off Infrared too. Ozone (oxygen) also kills plague and when one inhales, soaked through skin and drank in water (water ozoneator).

Food grade hydrogen peroxide added to a humidifier also breaks down the fluids in the lungs but it needs to be a mild mix. 1.5% then drops according to body weight. I dont know the formulas so you need to search them.

Citric Acid (high dose Vit C) also kills plague,

There are 80,000 known killers of plague, but 77,000 damage body tissue. Find the treatments that dont damage body tissue and your golden.
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I use a colloidal silver nasal spray 2-3x daily because there is a lot of mold in my area. It definitely helps. My sinuses get clogged otherwise. Also take silver by the spoonful when I get sick. Just received colloidal silver lozenges. Haven’t tried them yet. 2-3 garlic stuffed olives daily too.
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Bacteria cannot grow on Gold and Silver. It can't reproduce.
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Mung bean and green tea
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Some people here said that this doesnt cause a cytokine storm, im comfused
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Your "Illness" list is going to get people killed.

Here's the real list... Get enough for you and whoever you want to save... enough to last 2 weeks:

H2 Antagonist Drugs:
*Pepcid/Tagamet/Adix/Zantac

PPI Drugs:
*Prilosec, Prevacid, Nexium

H1 Antagonist Drugs:
*Benadryle or Generic (Diphenhydramine)

You know what Benadryl does. The H2 drugs work in the same way except on different histamines.

The PPI (Proton Pump Inhibitor) stops monocytes from going into overdrive (Monocytes = White Blood Cells)

Corona Virus Hits in a similar way to flu. It is a "Novel Virus" meaning the body has never seen anything like it.

The body goes nuts to the point that your own immune system kills you in a "Cytokine Storm" very similar to a peanut allergy, in that it's the body's response that damages the person, not so much the peanuts.

When to start "therapy"? At the first sign of flu like symptoms. Take as directed on the box.
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Can Omeprozole and pantoprozole also be added to the list.
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Bible and pray will shield me from forces of darkness, if not so be it , maybe i don't deserve it.
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We are lucky there are still supplies

Hydrogen Peroxide and white vinegar...get the gallon size of vinegar, a spray bottle, kills 99.9% germs and is inexpensive

The above is good if power goes out, for use with power consider a UV light box or bulbs or air cleaner, UV light kills virus.

Iodine...there are many forms...lugol’s 5% solution kills bacteria, virus and fungus, there are ointments and large sizes...provodine etc for livestock, great stuff and a necessary nutrient

Oregano oil

Make fire cider

Lots of paper towels, wipes, TP etc.

Baking soda

Borax

MMS

Bulk C

50,000iu D3

Oxygen

IV fluid

Good sea salt for nasal rinse

Learn how to safely use any home remedy and print out now, so if power or internet goes out you have safe instructions on hand

For instance, you can not look at a UV light, it damages the eyes

Certain things should not be taken at same time like C and iodine

Antacids like baking soda should be taken on an empty stomach and other things like D3 should be taken with food

Might be good to have a digital thermometer, and something to monitor blood pressure

Garlic, fresh and pills

Learn how to safely fast, learn to make electrolyte water, you need baking soda and sea salt and potassium, you can buy bulk or the salt substitutes like No Salt are potassium

A good recipe is snake juice, don’t be put off it works. Just sea salt, baking soda and potassium in jug of water, about a teaspoon of each.
 Quoting: stillhere


Do you combine the white vinegar and hydrogen peroxide??
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Your "Illness" list is going to get people killed.

Here's the real list... Get enough for you and whoever you want to save... enough to last 2 weeks:

H2 Antagonist Drugs:
*Pepcid/Tagamet/Adix/Zantac

PPI Drugs:
*Prilosec, Prevacid, Nexium

H1 Antagonist Drugs:
*Benadryle or Generic (Diphenhydramine)

You know what Benadryl does. The H2 drugs work in the same way except on different histamines.

The PPI (Proton Pump Inhibitor) stops monocytes from going into overdrive (Monocytes = White Blood Cells)

Corona Virus Hits in a similar way to flu. It is a "Novel Virus" meaning the body has never seen anything like it.

The body goes nuts to the point that your own immune system kills you in a "Cytokine Storm" very similar to a peanut allergy, in that it's the body's response that damages the person, not so much the peanuts.

When to start "therapy"? At the first sign of flu like symptoms. Take as directed on the box.
 Quoting: PirateMonkey


Zicam spray. Been using it for years. Zinc spray. No colds, no flu for years.
 Quoting: Billxam, ABATE, AWHA


Corona is a flu on Steroids. It dumps into your lungs in 8hrs. You can drown. A standard flu dumps in two weeks. Zinc speeds this process up...get it? Zinc cuts the duration of a simple cold or flu by 1/3 so this means it could kill you 1/3 as fast!

NO ZINC
NO FEVER REDUCTION UNTIL FEVER HITS 104DEG! At 103deg take one advil or ibuprofen. If fever still climbs, take one more. FLOAT AT AROUND 102 to 103 DEG! A FEVER IS GOOD! IT MEANS YOUR BODY IS KILLING.

To make the cough productive is key. During the Spanish flu, the Japanese took a picnic bench, cut 3" off the legs on one end, placed victim face down with head toward the low end, then had their wives or children stand on their backs in order to 'assist' in removing mucus. This is a sort of "chest compression". A person can only cough so much but if someone helps by sitting on their back, it makes a big difference.

Goal is to not get it in the first place. Practice excellent hygiene.

If you get it goal is for the body to whoop its ass on day one not allowing for it to grown.

If your a smoker, dehydrated, sickly, your goal is to make cough productive.
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Some people here said that this doesnt cause a cytokine storm, im comfused
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It did only in the people who died, which was a low percentage. I think 2%?

Im confused too but I like to prepare for the worse. Then its easy to whoop the lesser plagues. I also don't trust the WHO
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LOL wife and I just went grocery shopping and our whole cart was filled with water bottles, gallons, ect and we received the weirdest looks, then I saw someone else doing the same thing and we nodded at eachother lmao
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I've seen it all week. The old vets mostly. They get it. Bottled water, sacks of potatoes, canned meat.
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Your "Illness" list is going to get people killed.

Here's the real list... Get enough for you and whoever you want to save... enough to last 2 weeks:

H2 Antagonist Drugs:
*Pepcid/Tagamet/Adix/Zantac

PPI Drugs:
*Prilosec, Prevacid, Nexium

H1 Antagonist Drugs:
*Benadryle or Generic (Diphenhydramine)

You know what Benadryl does. The H2 drugs work in the same way except on different histamines.

The PPI (Proton Pump Inhibitor) stops monocytes from going into overdrive (Monocytes = White Blood Cells)

Corona Virus Hits in a similar way to flu. It is a "Novel Virus" meaning the body has never seen anything like it.

The body goes nuts to the point that your own immune system kills you in a "Cytokine Storm" very similar to a peanut allergy, in that it's the body's response that damages the person, not so much the peanuts.

I have heard this too and for some reason, it makes sense to me....


When to start "therapy"? At the first sign of flu like symptoms. Take as directed on the box.
 Quoting: PirateMonkey
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We are lucky there are still supplies

Hydrogen Peroxide and white vinegar...get the gallon size of vinegar, a spray bottle, kills 99.9% germs and is inexpensive
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It is VERY important not to mix these two ingredients into the same bottle. They will create an acid, and their fumes that are created can cause permanent lung injury.

Seeing how this is an acid, it will also probably cause skin and eye reactions.

I use these two, but they are in two different bottles. Spray with one and then spray the other on top. And wipe off. It is okay using this, this way since there is plenty of oxygen to disperse the fumes and render it harmless.
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You can take oil of oregano to prevent or when you first start getting a bug. Its strong, so google for doseafe recommendations. It's an antiviral and it's good getting to work on lung congestion. Keep some on hand. I think lemon juice to help make your system more alkaline too is a good idea- viruses dont like an alkaline environment. Also reading up on sage- not sure yet. But it may help also- with hiv.
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Listen to your body. Use common sense.
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That's what I have collected from some other threads and sources.

UV can be used to destroy the virus, if the UV dosage/time is high enough.
A water solution with powdered pool bleach is effective. [ed note: the powdered bleach is a very effective oxidizer, is cheap, widely available and has a long shelf life]
Surfaces where the virus is on, such as a counter where someone coughed, need to be sprayed with bleach, the air misted with bleach and anyone in contact needs to shower.

Latex gloves are useless. It’s porous, 100-micron holes and the virus is less than 5 microns. Use nitrile gloves. Ideally surgical (shield skin) gloves. Wear face mask(at least N95)

If possible, isolate yourself from others and have food/water sources.

Build up your immunity:
Before becoming ill, folic acid (to raise White Blood Cells) and drinks, acidic such as strong lemon drinks and increasing oxygen intake, which changes the pH of the blood. Keep a healthy diet. Exercise.
Start to take now:
Load up vitamin C and any other for boosting immune system
Iodine
Brazil nuts(selenium), 2-3 a day
Avoid fried or spicy food.
Preventive advice:
Keep your throat moist, do not let your throat dry up. Thus do not hold your thirst because once your membrane in your throat is dried, the virus will invade into your body within 10 min. Do not drink plenty at one time as it does not help, instead, continue to keep throat moist. Till end of March, do not go to crowded places, wear face mask as needed, avoid public transport.
And my own prevention advice:


Do not use public toilets
Avoid touching any surface (when out of home) with bare hands
Do shopping as late as possible (to avoid crowds of people)
Go to shops with automated doors so you don’t have to open them
Wash your hands with normal soap. Antibacterial soap kills all your good bacteria not only bad ones. Hand sanitisers for your gloves.
Use nitrile gloves everywhere (even when shopping)
Remember that your pet (cat/dog etc) can bring virus home
If possible, do not enter your home with footwear you use outside
Do not buy/order anything from China or any other country where virus present. If you do, everything should be disinfected before you touch it. (UV lamp) Ideally disinfect everything what you bring
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Glad to see you've got Elderberry on the lisp Op. Supposedly it keeps viruses from reproducing. And, it's fairly inexpensive. Bought some powder form a couple days ago just in case...
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Listen to your body. Use common sense.
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No way, my body always wants sweets and snack food lol...
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Bible and pray will shield me from forces of darkness, if not so be it , maybe i don't deserve it.
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Agreed. Still we have to take some common approach practices like washing hands frequently, sanitizer, etc... Along with scriptures it's important to wear the Brown Scapular.. Even if you're not Catholic. It has produced innumerable miracles throughout the ages..
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I am including essential oils in my plans and also some of yours. It seems that pneumonia is what they name as the killer.

Have ordered 2 nebulizers but here is the quandary.... Many are made in China. How can I purify them?
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Some people here said that this doesnt cause a cytokine storm, im comfused
 Quoting: Gilberto de Piento


It depends on the immune status of the person. Cytokine storming happens most in those with strong immune systems when encountering a novel virus or antigen.

Older folks with reduced immune response are less likely to have storming, but may have other problems - like pneumonia.
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Add aspirin to your list. It works well on most people with few exceptions. It's cheap and you can get 500 tablets for a few dollars.
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LOL wife and I just went grocery shopping and our whole cart was filled with water bottles, gallons, ect and we received the weirdest looks, then I saw someone else doing the same thing and we nodded at eachother lmao
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I've seen it all week. The old vets mostly. They get it. Bottled water, sacks of potatoes, canned meat.
 Quoting: MissCleo


Just buy your normal bottles of alcohol. After you drink it, fill with filtered water. Done.

Even the plastic alcohol bottles are stronger than the water bottles from the store. Get some from a bar if you don't drink.
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Prevention list:

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Your "Illness" list is going to get people killed.

Here's the real list... Get enough for you and whoever you want to save... enough to last 2 weeks:

H2 Antagonist Drugs:
*Pepcid/Tagamet/Adix/Zantac

PPI Drugs:
*Prilosec, Prevacid, Nexium

H1 Antagonist Drugs:
*Benadryle or Generic (Diphenhydramine)

You know what Benadryl does. The H2 drugs work in the same way except on different histamines.

The PPI (Proton Pump Inhibitor) stops monocytes from going into overdrive (Monocytes = White Blood Cells)

Corona Virus Hits in a similar way to flu. It is a "Novel Virus" meaning the body has never seen anything like it.

The body goes nuts to the point that your own immune system kills you in a "Cytokine Storm" very similar to a peanut allergy, in that it's the body's response that damages the person, not so much the peanuts.

When to start "therapy"? At the first sign of flu like symptoms. Take as directed on the box.
 Quoting: PirateMonkey


TY but I'm extremely allergic to Benadryl any alternatives ..?
 Quoting: beenthruthat


Niacin B3 the flushing kind in high doses like 500+ mg acts as an antihistamine
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GLP Doctors == Tards Helping Tards Get Worse

Don't get medical advice from the same community that blows everything out of proportion.
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LOL wife and I just went grocery shopping and our whole cart was filled with water bottles, gallons, ect and we received the weirdest looks, then I saw someone else doing the same thing and we nodded at eachother lmao
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78091084


I've seen it all week. The old vets mostly. They get it. Bottled water, sacks of potatoes, canned meat.
 Quoting: MissCleo


Just buy your normal bottles of alcohol. After you drink it, fill with filtered water. Done.

Even the plastic alcohol bottles are stronger than the water bottles from the store. Get some from a bar if you don't drink.
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Thanks for the information.

Posting in thread so I can refer to it when prepping for that time this year when I'm feeling like I'm about to die.
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